|Introducing the new Google bar||nealeigh||9/19/13 12:38 PM|
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||MutatedGamer||9/19/13 3:02 PM|
Please have the option to revert back to the original after it's released. As seen in my topic, me and a lot of other users extremely dislike this change.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Cajun Wolf||9/19/13 5:28 PM|
Why can't we have an option? I liked the black bar across the top OUT OF MY WAY. I do not like your new change.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Wyatt23||9/19/13 8:08 PM|
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Wyatt23||9/19/13 8:12 PM|
As a follow-up, I don't really feel that adding big, friendly icons that obscure a ton of the screen when the menu is opened really 'simplifies' things. It just goes with the "we need to add big, friendly buttons and slap the word 'simple' on it, and we'll get people to like it more" mentality that in the last two to three years seems to be becoming prevalent in software companies. You need to take power users into account as well. Not everyone uses a tablet (yet).
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Wyatt23||9/19/13 8:49 PM|
As a piece of more constructive criticism, I really feel something like a 'hotbar' should still be in place somewhere on the screen, where a user can put things he/she uses a lot for one-click access.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||bluequoll||9/19/13 10:59 PM|
"I really feel something like a 'hotbar' should still be in place somewhere on the screen, where a user can put things he/she uses a lot for one-click access."
My browser bookmarks bar does that, and now I've got space to switch it on! ;o)
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||old grump||9/20/13 3:09 AM|
Terrible, terrible idea. I thought your page said Google was all about users? Your old design was simple, swift, and elegant. This new one is glitz-trash. Kill your darlings, folks.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Wyatt23||9/20/13 6:31 AM|
On Friday, September 20, 2013 1:59:25 AM UTC-4, bluequoll wrote:Yeah, but I want to keep my bookmarks bar open for other sites i want to bookmark. I don't want to fill it with things google should integrate with their site.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Wyatt23||9/20/13 6:34 AM|
I truly feel that a click-drag thing would be good here. So if I dragged the 'youtube' icon from the 'apps' menu to the bar with the 'images' link and the 'gmail' link, it would add a 'youtube' link next to them. That's basic functionality that would really improve my experience.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||dot45||9/20/13 9:59 AM|
So, I now have an extra click to get to google play from the home page. But I see that you've left Google+ as a direct link. How about letting us edit what shows on that command bar, so we can have the things we use within easy reach?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Fireman185||9/20/13 10:35 AM|
With the "bar", I only had to click once (on, say, News).
With this "app launcher icon", I now have to click twice.
Could you explain to me how this "app launcher icon" will enhance my user experience?
I find this an incomprehensible change.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Wyatt23||9/20/13 2:38 PM|
Looks to me like most of us just want to have a customizable list of things on top. I would immediately quit whining if we could choose what was on that bar.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||nicole salsedo||9/21/13 2:47 AM|
I do NOT like the new GOOGLE homepage. it is difficult to access and hard to use.
Please return to the previous page design as it was easy to access all google products!!!!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||nicole salsedo||9/21/13 2:49 AM|
I do NOT Like the new Google homepage. Please revert back to the old design which was perfect the way it was. this new set up is frustrating, difficult to use and im ready to switch to bing if it doesn't change back.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Rob Fox||9/21/13 11:21 AM|
The former black menu bar across the top looked sharp and was very effective. The new look is the opposite - looks dull and is more annoying to use with more clicks required to get to the program of your choice. Maybe this is better for tablet users, but at least give users an option to choose the way they'd like their homepage displayed. Thanks.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Rob Fox||9/21/13 11:22 AM|
The former black menu bar across the top looked sharp and was very effective. The new look is the opposite - looks dull and is more annoying to use with more clicks required to get to the program of your choice. At least give users an option to choose the way they'd like their homepage displayed. Thanks.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Kishan+||9/21/13 11:44 PM|
I think, users should given option either to stick to previous navigation bar, or this newly designed "Apps launcher icon"...
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||dredd judge||9/22/13 1:52 AM|
I also hate this new look, where is my tool bar? oh yes you've gone and hidden it, so when it was all visible and just one click away, now it's hidden a multiple clicks away, how on earth is that easier???? Muppets.
How do I get the old look back???
Some simple rules of life.... if it ain't broke don't try and fix it. And always use the KISS principle when problem solving.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Taras Goral||9/22/13 8:28 AM|
Yes, I find that we cant change back to the original black bar would be very convenient. It is very frustrating to hover your mouse over where the bar SHOULD be, and find out you have to click an annoying button to access my apps. Plus, the grid doesn't have Google images, and I'm not a big fan of clicking even more apps or typing in the full address: google.com/imghp. Please bring an option for people like me to use the black bar instead!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Karolis Kaupas||9/22/13 10:25 AM|
If you think you will force everyone into using Google+ by showing it's icons on top everywhere (istead of my preciuos image search) you are wrong, folks. You are terribly wrong...
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Vinay Solanki||9/22/13 11:27 AM|
I hate this new look to be honest. I use Google news all the time and now I'll have to click an extra button, scroll down and click on news to view it. It was better and simple before. Users should be given an option to go back to the old black bar.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||86mahoney||9/22/13 3:40 PM|
Add me as one more who does not like this "new look". Dumping google for something else until they get their act together.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||watford||9/23/13 9:58 AM|
It is a pretty miserable failure...my monitor is not a touch screen.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||robgambrill||9/23/13 11:54 AM|
Once again, Google fixes something that is not broken,
I hate the new grid, no YouTube, ugly pull down, and you have to pull down twice (that should have been a tip-off that this would be pretty clumsy to use).
I know you all have a habit of making things worse and calling it an improvement, but I prefer the old bar to the mess that showed up today.
I would like the black nav bar back as soon as possible.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Paige Johnson||9/23/13 10:39 PM|
In case anyone is actually looking at feedback, I'm in the "bring the black bar back" camp. Yesterday it took me several frustrated minutes to figure out where my Google calendar had gone. All of the recent changes seem like the interface is hiding things from the user (e.g. the new email composition layout, where you have to click in certain areas to edit the text, change the subject, etc.) I'm not a web designer, but I have taken courses on the subject, and I thought that ease of access for your users should be priority #1 (reducing clicks, not making your user search for the content he/she is looking for, etc.) Please stop tucking everything behind cute buttons where it's difficult to find - sometimes a list of the stuff people use along the top of the screen, though maybe not the most "aesthetic" option, is the most straightforward and therefore the easiest to use. Buttons that actually tell you what they are instead of the user having to guess what that weird tic-tac-toe box is supposed to represent are great too!
Better yet, give us the option to configure our own menu bar!
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||I'm disappoint||9/26/13 9:38 AM|
Great Google, now I will switch to a different search engine. You treat your users like shit once again...
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Tony Mayne||9/26/13 11:26 AM|
Please put in an option to change back to the prior version or add drop and drag. It seem that many sites are updating making their sites less user friendly and more bright and colorful. Not everything should be based off of your polls.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Diana Maclin||9/26/13 12:54 PM|
The access is NOT streamlined. As an example, I use Google Maps a lot. With the menu bar, I have one-click access to Google Maps. The new grid doesn't have a Maps link, so I have to click More, then Even More to get to a page where I have to scroll down to finally get to the Maps link. It now takes me 4 clicks to get somewhere that used to take me one!
It's also not obvious that one should click on the group of squares to get a menu. In the old days of web design, we used to call this mystery meat navigation. Menu bars may not be the prettiest design element, but they are simple, straight-forward, and easy for the user to understand. Why make the site navigation harder than it has to be?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Parody||9/26/13 2:05 PM|
Maybe you should go back to the Google Dropdown from 2011?
It shows more things and labels them better! It was also hard to notice that it was even there, but that's part of the territory for mystery meat navigation.
Letting us customize the items on the bar and in the dropdown would be nice, but given the anti-customization/anti-power-user theme we've seen in these new designs I'm not holding out much hope in that regard. At least I can still type [whatever].google.com and get to the few things I still use. :/
PS: I can't post pictures and such in this forum, so sorry for the link to some article from two years ago. It does have a nice picture of the menu spread out, though.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||bluequoll||9/26/13 5:07 PM|
If highly visible navigation bars have become "uncool", why does every other website on the web use them?
I guess it's to make it easy for users to navigate the site.
Strange that Google alone can't see the point!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Andrew Peister||9/28/13 6:54 PM|
I like the horizontal toolbar. I find it very easy and useful. When you guys update give us an option on which on ewe can use.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Wyatt23||9/30/13 6:04 PM|
To recap, it is not simpler, nor is it more streamlined. If I could select what appeared as a text-based link on the homepage, I would be happy to accept the lack of a bar. I want to be able to add the 'maps' link to the main screen without having to take four clicks to get to it. None of the posts on this thread have been positive yet.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Wyatt23||9/30/13 6:05 PM|
(also, my birthday is in four days. would be a great suprise if I were given the option to use google in a more user-friendly manner by then.)
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Carlos Leonhart Guerrero||9/30/13 6:10 PM|
I hope that Google understand that we really prefer the horizontal bar... :)
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Carlos Leonhart Guerrero||9/30/13 6:17 PM|
Well I thinks that letting us customize the items is nice... but...the problem is that the whole world don't have the same level of knowledge... and that can bring some dislike % of people that just want to go to the horizontal bar and navigate...
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||RachP||10/1/13 11:19 AM|
Sorry Google, but I wholeheartedly agree that the grid app button is a horrid change. Why add extra clicks for the apps I use everyday just to save a click or two for the ones I rarely use? It doesn't make sense. Please quit changing things just for the sake of changing them.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Shazflesh||10/1/13 2:28 PM|
How do I can put more stuff in the the top bar.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Douglas Winning||10/1/13 2:44 PM|
I hate not having the black bar. I use it all the time. Now I have to go all the way to this stupid little button that's doesn't scream "CLICK HERE" at all. I EXTREMELY DISLIKE this change, and I, as well as many others, very much want the bar back. The bar worked just fine. I had everything I wanted visible and could click swiftly to get there. Clicking twice to get to somewhere you only had to click once to get to is absolutely stupid. And the Google page looks very empty now. I should just use Bing because they still have that.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Josh Hoose||10/1/13 2:57 PM|
Please stop acting like Facebook. I'm not on a tablet, I don't use a tablet for web browsing, I have nice dual monitors, and don't want a drop down menu. At least leave the option of restoring the previous version.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||beach_defender||10/1/13 3:22 PM|
With the recent silly change to the gmail composer window and now a retrograde step on the Google Bar, one is left to wonder how you do yuor customer research.
Please allow us to settle into a standard interface and make all new changes optional.
This is not good PR.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||The New Google Sucks Ass!||10/1/13 6:09 PM|
This sucks! EPIC FAIL.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||DC WorkEmail||10/1/13 6:55 PM|
Really? I like the black bar and would like to keep it there. Please enable it to stay if I have some kind user preference enabled while logged in.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Rob Finnick||10/1/13 8:50 PM|
This is absolute GARBAGE. This is a prime example of breaking what worked perfectly and calling it fixed.
Thanks for killing the internet.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Deborah Tayler||10/1/13 9:16 PM|
Couldn't agree more with the comments here - why is having to click twice an improvement?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Ethan Xanderphone||10/1/13 9:27 PM|
Google does it again!
Takes a FANTASTIC feature and makes it harder, more difficult to use, and disliked by millions.
It almost makes me wish Yahoo and Bing could get their act together.
PLEASE bring back the black bar across the top! Why should we have to click TWICE to get the News???
I don't understand Google at all. They had a fantastic image search, and they ruined it. Now their basic fundamental service is being hacked at.
Can't Google employees go to work solving hunger or world peace rather than making life more miserable for people who want to rely on your products?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||williclarkam||10/1/13 9:49 PM|
I disagree with almost all of you guys. OK so what? Click 2 time, What's the big deal? For me this look is the best, because I only use 2 features, the search and Gmail, so this simple and not crowded look is outstanding for me, and if you guys for example want to read the news everyday so bookmark it, I think the best option for both groups (the ones that like this look and the ones that hate it) is to choose, Google should consider this.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Rob Finnick||10/1/13 10:04 PM|
Bookmarks are GARBAGE for people who use most of Google's features on a regular basis for the same reason that this new, stupid menu is bad- the extra, pointless clicking through menus. Its nice to be able to navigate the web using only 500 clicks per session instead of 1,000 with mandatory scrolling in the pop up menu. This new format is absolute garbage. I'm going to wait a couple of weeks for this to fix, then I'm deleting all of my Google shit and going elsewhere.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Steve M..||10/1/13 10:09 PM|
Not happy with the new format. Please allow us to CHOOSE what version we want. The other was actually easy to use and everything was right where it needed to be. The clean and simple idea that you implemented is a great idea but in reality it makes it harder.
Look at the windows big start button/menu, that was suppose to clean and simplify our desktop icons. I work with 120 users who still have to have icons on their desktop. While designers love to show off skills by grouping products under headings, in reality most of us only use 2 or 3 products in that app drop down.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||YONEILIO||10/2/13 4:48 AM|
OMG, BRING BACK THE OLD NAV BAR. I HATE THE NEW SETUP
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Displeased customer 2||10/2/13 4:49 AM|
Please return the black navigation ribbon for gmail applications. The newer way to access applications is a hassle and less accessible
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Chuck Wood||10/2/13 5:41 AM|
The old way was very efficient. Now it is absolutely the worst. The advanced search feature is also hidden. Extra steps more time sucks
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||flight21||10/2/13 6:50 AM|
I have to do multiple click and scroll to get to the links.. Really disaprove it..
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Patrick Finucane||10/2/13 8:28 AM|
The new format of the google home page is terrible. I need to search for something in order to see menu options now. You also cut out google options, like groups. BTW, Groups was modified recently that makes things more difficult to access. Go back to keeping things simple.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||kylemwhite||10/2/13 8:42 AM|
Count me as a hater. Google UI used to be all about function, not form... and it was VERY functional... simple, fast-loading pages without a lot of fluff. The new direction seems to be form over function. Yes, it looks nice... but so does everybody else's stuff. Like the recent Gmail composer changes, everything is hidden. I have to go hunting around to find stuff that previously took a quick glance and a single click. This is Microsoft Office ribbon bar all over again. Why do big software companies inevitably go this route? Sad.
Please bring back the simple black bar and quit hiding stuff.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Sud Ashra||10/2/13 9:05 AM|
This design is MUCH, MUCH worse. It makes navigated LESS friendly.
Let's take an example; If I googled "iron man" I would get a bunch of text/webpage hits. When we had the black bar I could click on the "images" button and I would get an bunch of image hits. I could click on the "video" button and get a whole lot of video hits. Now if I want images hits *after* my text hits, I have to click "apps", click "more", click "more", click "even more", then re-type my search.
Improvement?!?!? I don't think so. Style over substance.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||robgambrill||10/2/13 9:19 AM|
Hey I understand it is no big deal for most of us not to have the black bar. There are a host of other ways to do the same thing.
The point I really want to stress is that when I set up a PC for an older person or a person with disabilities, I set things up for them to be as simple as possible. When they take away pinned tabs in chrome, change the compose in Gmail, change the layout in Google+, or remove the black bar in Google search (all for no good reason) it causes those people a *lot* of grief.
I used to say, "use Google, they have good stuff". Now I have to say, none of these companies give a damn if you have to relearn everything every month, they simply cannot leave well enough alone.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||YONEILIO||10/2/13 9:35 AM|
This does mot display the old look for me
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||flight21||10/2/13 10:11 AM|
They must have close it.. I just refreshed my page and yea, it does show the new look now..
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||YONEILIO||10/2/13 10:18 AM|
Very frustrating !
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||flight21||10/2/13 10:23 AM|
Try the advanced search it will display the old nav bar!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||thebrzi||10/2/13 1:15 PM|
Pleas bring black the old black bar!
It's better and simpler.
p.s. Hate this...
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Hrag Hayrabedian||10/2/13 1:37 PM|
Agreed, this change in a word, sucks
There needs to be customizability, you can't please everyone
You are alienating a lot of power users by being overly accommodating to the lowest common denominator, I mean geez look at the size of those icons
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||RedMtl||10/2/13 2:47 PM|
On Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:38:55 UTC-4, nealeigh wrote:
> Today, we are unveiling the updated Google bar. In the next few weeks we will roll out the new, streamlined design across all Google products.
> hen you need to.
> How do I switch to another Google product?
> To open a new product, click on the Apps launcher icon and you’ll see a list of other Google applications.
In other words, you once again take something that was not broken and worked well, and removed it. The result: the items that one accessed easily and frequently before are now several clicks away and invisible.
Stupid move --
I agree that being able to customise the Black Bar would have been helpful -- I never use much of it (such as the despicable YouTube) and being able to put there the things I did use would have been highly useful. But not having the black bar there at all with things like "G-Mail" and other items easily accessible is a hopeless a serious waste of what was an efficient tool.
It is stupidly inefficient, to the point where it is now faster for me to type a full line into the address bar than it is for me to screw around with a mouse and multiple clicking.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||RedMtl||10/2/13 2:53 PM|
On Wednesday, 2 October 2013 12:19:13 UTC-4, robgambrill wrote:
That is very well put -- not least with reference to older or disabled people.
Google no longer has "good stuff" and more importantly it is just so obvious that Google doesn't care that I can't in good conscience recommend that anyone use it now.
It is certainly a "big deal" for me. The difference in the speed with which I can do something has been sharply reduced for most Google items, and functionality for G-Mail was reduced enough that I closed 15 of 16 accounts I was responsible for, and moved to another e-mail provider.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||mrklarth||10/2/13 3:40 PM|
How can you possibly screw up the simplistic beauty of google.com? This is how.
Whose idea was it to force users to click 2+ times for features that used to be right at the top of their page? I could get to like this change if the links that do appear at the top were customizable-- and I get the forced Google+ link, but why not at least let us pick which links we use most to be on the page?
Hopefully you will come to your senses, but I'm not foolish enough to think that any other search engine will be better and threaten to switch, because I tend to believe that no wayward web designer can create a blunder that greasemonkey can't fix.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Pavan Gumaste||10/2/13 3:52 PM|
I hate it!!!! :P
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Neil Surowich||10/2/13 3:52 PM|
Pretty please change it back to the original. The new update is very awkward to use.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Sherry Borsheim||10/2/13 4:39 PM|
This is not good at all. I run my entire business on Google and as a Productivity Consultant, I'd like to know if having to find your calendar and documents hidden in some pull down menu is efficient use of my time? I think not!
The user experience in Google has gone totally down hill since the added tabs and multiple places to find things. There's no flexibility on how to set up my user experience in Gmail...it's time to get on board with what makes life easier for the user!
Yes, I could switch back to Outlook, or some other program and I've tried them, but gmail is the best for syncing and ease of use to all my devices. Let's simplify technology, not complicate them!!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||robert horton||10/2/13 4:51 PM|
bring back the black menu bar
the new grid is terrible, a step backwards
everyone is not using a touch screen (smartphone, tablet, etc.)
first time i've really been annoyed with google
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Richard Yarbro||10/2/13 4:59 PM|
Absolutely terrible. GOOGLE...what are you thinking??? This new format sucks balls.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Grumpy User||10/2/13 5:09 PM|
Good job, Google. You're sacrificing usefulness for appearance. And that's just dumb. My desktop computer is not a touch screen. You're taken away a very useful bar and drop down for a little tic-tac-toe grid and acres of white space.
Dumb. DUMB. D U M B.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||jms||10/2/13 5:24 PM|
I tried this "feature" and hate it.
It is the opposite of streamlined because it takes at least 2 clicks to find the link you want. Drop-down menus are less efficient to use than navigation bars and only help developers add content when space is limited. There is an abundance of space on the Google search page. I have wasted an hour looking for a way to bring the black bar back. I got it back by using InPrivate settings.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||mercurie||10/2/13 5:27 PM|
I have to disagree that this is a "simpler design" than the black bar. Using the black bar it only took me one click to get to YouTube and two to get to Blogger. With this updated bar (which doesn't really look like a bar to me) it takes me two clicks to get to YouTube and three to get to Blogger. The black bar was much simpler and much more focused on my product experience than this new "bar" is. I hope you give us the black bar back, the option of having the black bar back, or at least let us customise this new bar so that the products we use are easily accessible to us (I don't use GMail and don't plan to, so it's rather pointless to have it there).
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||RedMtl||10/2/13 5:39 PM|
On Wednesday, 2 October 2013 20:24:30 UTC-4, jms wrote:
> I tried this "feature" and hate it.
Unfortunately InPrivate doesn't work if one doesn't use Internet Exploder. I tried the equivalent in FireFox, and while the G-Mail opened with the black bar, nothing else did. Then, after it had had a minute or two to register it was the old version, the pop-up box appeared introducing the new stupidity, and the black bar was gone.
So, I hope this does work for you and continues to do so. Meanwhile, I also hope someone comes up with an add-on for FireFox that disables this stupid new clickfest.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Muffinsforver||10/2/13 6:04 PM|
Please revert back or at the very least put it on the left again! It worked fine, actually better than what this is now, not all of us have low dpi screens and/or touch devices and I thought the site detected those anyways for deciding the appropriate display.
In general, I do not like the app button and removed it within 5 minutes in chrome and I don't like it being forced on me in web searching.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ShawnL72||10/2/13 6:37 PM|
Why is Google/YouTube creating changes that require you to click extra times to do the same thing you could do before the change?
Seems that Google "THINKS" they are creating a better user experience, yet they are creating additional steps to do what used to be much simpler. Menu's within menu's is NOT the way to go. I used to love being able to clicks maps, images, mail, etc from the quick app bar. Now I have to click on some other small icon, then on to another icon for the same thing.
Youtube now requires 2-3 extra clicks to change resolution, remove annotations, etc. Google Play Music app on the phone has huge icons, way to bright of color, etc, to be used as it was first introduced. It's not easier, especially when you have it in a car dock with it blinding you. the only way to fix the blinding color is to change to a different app or shut the screen down, causing more steps to change a song, etc. Last thing you want to do is make more steps on an app the should be driver friendly. Maybe not all use it in a car dock, but most really don't use a phone to play music since it kills the battery too fast.
Just my opinions that I felt I should share. Not that Google cares as they have become a big gun and trying to mimic Microsoft lately with 'This is how we think you should do it, so we force it upon you' attitude. It's looking like time to move on to something other than Google Products.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Aimee Grout||10/2/13 7:15 PM|
Google, you guys are great. I love your products, and I use them every day. I love android, google play, google search & images, google translate, google calendar, google hangouts, gmail. You guys are fantastic!
You guys are really good at innovating. I love most of the changes you've made, and I think there are a few things you can bring back to make google even better. For instance, the black bar at the top of all the google pages was really helpful! I miss it. Now I have to click twice to access drive, or calendar. Having the black bar at the top made it easier to open tabs to whatever google products I wanted to use.
Also, on Google Docs, the doc's name used to appear at the top, along with a "share" button at the top right. Now, I have to go full-screen, then press "esc" on my keyboard to rename the document. I also have to click twice (click "File" tab, then "Share") to share now. When the document title and share button are at the top, it's a lot easier to have everything readily accessible, especially when using a laptop.
I know you all at Google will do your best to make Google products enjoyable and easy to use. Thank you for everything you've done so far, and I hope you'll consider my thoughts.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||mercurie||10/2/13 10:16 PM|
Honestly, I think the black bar was the simpler design and much more convenient to use. With the black bar I had only one click to get to YouTube or News, only two clicks to get to Blogger. With this new Google "bar" it takes two clicks for me to reach YouTube and three to get to Blogger. I honestly wish you would give us the option of having the black bar back or at least make this new bar customisable so we can place the products we use the most so they are the most easily accessible.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Victoria Lopez-Aldazabal||10/2/13 10:31 PM|
The new "App Badge" drop down menu is clunky and inconvenient. Please please please bring back an option for the black bar, it was one of the handiest things to help multitask. I certainly agree with other that this improvement hasnt improved much at all
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Peirce Stern||10/2/13 10:40 PM|
There are benefits to creating an experience that is consistent across mediums. But I would prefer a design that doesn't create an extra step for the end user.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||One13Truck||10/2/13 10:42 PM|
Count me in the ones that hate the new look as well. Very pointless to add steps to do anything or find anything. Please give us some sort of "classic" option to go back to the black bar! Of course the changes to GMail still suck as well and we had our choice to go back to the classic look for that taken away too. Typical. Breaking things that aren't broken just to over-complicate things that were previously very simple.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||IAPL||10/2/13 11:01 PM|
Hey (supposedly brilliant) Google employees,
A search engine's homepage is NOT Chrome OS... so stop trying to make everything consistent so it'll make you warm and fuzzy inside.
Microsoft tried to do a similar thing by merging the desktop and mobile-touch experience... and the result is the monstrosity called Windows 8.
Don't go down the same path.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Dissatisfied Google User||10/2/13 11:21 PM|
For the last couple of months, Google has been introducing all too often changes that complicate its users experiences and makes using Google's products too difficult to use. First was the Gmail filters that before had us checking only one inbox to three (duplication of effort and unnecessary complication is a common theme here). Luckily Google allowed us to disable these cumbersome features.
Next, Chrome forces its search box and user history into the next tab (again duplicative effort when one considers the omnibox) that displaces all of the useful productivity apps I could easily reach with ease without extra mouse clicks. Google unfortunately won't allow us to undo this and so unless you install a third party extension, you're stuck with this change.
The removal of the black navigation bar represents the epitome of Google's latest dumbed down changes. Everyone has already said what can be said about the new app launcher. "Its supposed to save space and simplify everything", Google says. Even if it does all of these things (which it doesn't), it represents everything of what is wrong with Google nowadays: Failure to consider its user's basic needs. Google can keep trying to have the greatest design in the world; it won't matter to us if we can't use it. I hope Google sees theses responses here and does what's right as it did the last it tried to "simplify" the navigation bar. Until then, I like some others here will be using another search engine.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||JWJ31||10/3/13 12:01 AM|
Please stop changing stuff, first my email and now my searches. STOP!!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Bannman||10/3/13 12:03 AM|
Two clicks now instead of the previous one. It's a step back it's not making it easier. It's not as if the screen was cluttered in first place.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||leftfield70||10/3/13 12:33 AM|
Your new update is total shit!!! Why change something that was already perfect. The black drop down box at top was awesome easy for my kids to select YouTube, easy to access web/ maps etc. grid system is crap!! You people wind me up sooooooo muuuuuch!!!!!!!!!!
At least give us the option to revert to previous version if possible...
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Zeh Matt||10/3/13 12:59 AM|
Worst thing ever, this isn't Innovation at all, its a step back to stone age. How does it help me focusing on stuff if you have to click plenty things to do what you want?
Stop changing that stuff already.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Zen Kitteh||10/3/13 2:42 AM|
Why Google? Why do you keep fixing what isn't broken? I have been a Google user long enough to see YouTube changed several times (despite not needing the changes). I remember a more streamlined and cleaner YouTube. I have seen gmail changed more times than I can recall, all times unneeded. I have seen Google Images changed as well so many times. Now you are forcing me as well as many others who do not want this change to use your new cumbersome homepage layout. Why? Do you hate us or something? This isn't innovation. The top black bar design was and is and will forever be the best homepage design. Why didn't you improve it by letting users alter the links within it to better suit their needs? Why remove it and force users to use some new junk? I keep seeing it time and again, companies fixing what isn't broken. Complicating what should not have been messed with. Refine products, don't keep inventing new products to shove down peoples throats. Don't keep making drastic changes and force them on users who do not want them. I believe I represent a good portion of your users with my statements here today.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Diamond J||10/3/13 3:04 AM|
Wow, you guys suck. Seriously. Way to make the simplest thing to use more complicated. Don't be evil?? The last couple years have been more like...'how can we beat ourselves by being exponentially more evil?'.
*IF* you made both options possible (even if this less convenient design was the default), that would at least acceptable. Get rid of this uninvited, crappy grid thing and allow people to use the black (or even transparent?) bar at the top. I *used* to use Gmail as my page to open new tabs, by simply clicking the Search link to open a new tab - especially convenient when you have too many tabs open. But now, it's just quirky and inconvenient. Good job! You managed to break something that wasn't broken!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||CIWS||10/3/13 3:53 AM|
Seriously folks what is up with your company and all of these changes ? Do you not understand the concept that most folks do not like change unless something isn't working ? "If it works don't fix it" That applies to the users, not to "creative" minds sitting around the meeting table trying to come up with ideas. Put your collective creative energies into solving the broken things in your applications, not how to change their appearance or make thing look cooler.
Chrome - Add a damn setting to allow all cookies and history to be deleted on exit or just continue to watch people go back to Firefox and I.E. that do have it. (seriously Microsoft is better than you guys with this?)
Gmail - Incorporate a notifier that people have mail vs having to log in every time to check. Yes there are 3rd party apps that can be added, but why haven't YOU added it by now, it's been years.
A list could go on and on and on. You need to fix what's still wrong with your software vs trying to change how things look. You've lost touch as a user and are thinking too much like software engineers. (no offense to software engineers).
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Лазарев Дмитрий||10/3/13 4:04 AM|
Here is my feedback. I'm very disappointed about new design of Google Search. Now I need to do two clicks to switch to another service. And no one from Google can't answer how to switch back. They're just ignoring me. May be you can answer how we can bring back the top black bar.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||CIWS||10/3/13 4:23 AM|
The best way to show a company your disappointment in a product is to stop using it and switch to a different one. Try Bing or Yahoo for a while, see if Google gets the repeating message here.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||JFeinman27||10/3/13 4:34 AM|
I don't like not having the option to change with the times or not.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ibarix||10/3/13 4:53 AM|
OMFG, whose stupid idea was this? Now instead of just clicking once on translator or youtube, I have to click 3 times. And I had a direct link to google home page with black bar and now you replaced even that. The feature is terrible on pc's and you did nothing to give users at least the option to change it back.
Why on earth do you change something that's so good, easy and functional???
GIVE US BACK THE BLACK BAR !
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Massimo de Cristofaro||10/3/13 5:24 AM|
Hi, I've seen the new Google homr page, and I'm not happy.
I was a web site designer and the new page adds questions instead of being easier.
This new page is really a NOT-GOOGLE attitude from Google: we have to add one click MORE to get the page we need.
Only Gmail stays directley reachable ...
Once, there wa a "black bar" with some of the most common products...
I suggest to re-design this page
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Massimo de Cristofaro||10/3/13 5:29 AM|
You said the right caption "Google fixes something that is not broken"
now we have to make more clicks to reach the services...
They missed "Lesson 1" of "Web design basic course"
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ptruman||10/3/13 5:49 AM|
I don't like it, and quite a few people I've spoken to don't like it either.
However, in an attempt to "not just complain" - I can see why it would be good for touch UI devices (tablets/phablets etc) - but as per other comments, why not give users the choice? Or even choice based on UA String - desktop browser? Black bar. Mobile gadget? Here - have a choice? CSS allows this to happen easily.
Also, it seems that various products are being broken by this - I've now got two "Google" strap bars in Maps, and if I used advanced search (or add a specific ?arg to the querystring, I can get the black bars back, at least for a screen).
Or how about making it vaguely dynamic based on use - a friend uses translate a lot and he now has to click the grid, then more, then even more, and THEN get to translate. And don't say "use bookmarks" - if you switch browsers/clients, they are not always "there"....
Also, I notice this hasn't happened (yet) to Apps accounts. Do paid accounts get to make a choice or is this coming to them as well? I can see several corporate types getting very irked if this applies to them as well!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||MaximilianMus||10/3/13 6:15 AM|
I HATE THE NEW GOOGLE THINGY, I WANNA BE ABLE TO CLICK YOUTUBE FAST, NOT CLICK 2 TIMES, CHANGE BACK NOW!!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Garfunkel Hingersheen||10/3/13 6:17 AM|
This new design is inefficient compared to the previous design. While it isn't the end of the world to have an extra click to get to news, youtube, images, etc. it is quite irritating. Maybe this would be fantastic for a tablet or mobile user, but let's not forget some of us still use a mouse.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||RiderUp||10/3/13 6:27 AM|
I used the black bar a lot at work - it was EFFICIENT and unobtrusive.
This "new" bar is a farce. I assume it will eventually make it easier for Google to sell more advertising space? I didn't think it was possible but you have finally found a way - wasting my time - to make me try other browsers.
If I find one that works like the black bar I will push IT to have our entire agency switch.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||modrnsavage||10/3/13 6:47 AM|
Hear, hear... bring back the black menu bar.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Natasha Hurley-Walker||10/3/13 7:19 AM|
I preferred the old navigation bar; now it's two or three clicks and mental effort of parsing huge colourful icons instead of a simple single click. Please bring back the old navigation bar, and allow us to reorganise it / retheme it however we wish.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Jakub Sýkora||10/3/13 7:38 AM|
I'm pissed they canceled the black bar.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Joie Puckett||10/3/13 7:39 AM|
I absolutely agree. Incomprehensible.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Jakub Sýkora||10/3/13 7:41 AM|
It is a pretty miserable failure...my monitor is not a touch screen.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||diamondthree .||10/3/13 7:50 AM|
New design is a failure. Again, Google is trying to fix what's not broken. If you want to make things easier for tablet users, create a tablet-specific page just like the mobile-specific Google page that I get whenever I access it via Android.
At this point the only reason I use Google is for their powerful search capabilities, as all the other conveniences have eroded away. It started with Google+ and all the pushing they are doing to get us to use it...
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Adii Guzz||10/3/13 7:59 AM|
how the fuck you get it back on?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Stewart Bath||10/3/13 8:10 AM|
I don't like it either. Inefficient and unnecessary.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||gixerman||10/3/13 8:15 AM|
I come to Google for simplicity, no ads or news or pop ups. Minimalist design. I absolutely loved the simplicity of the Google Bar (black bar). If it does not return, or have an option to use it again, you will loose countless people. I love companies that do what they want for no apparent reason fixing what was not broken. Your page was fine, I will not use a page that requires all the clicks through buried menus, absolute garbage now...
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Joie Puckett||10/3/13 8:35 AM|
The icons do not read as quickly (AFTER you click the grid icon itself) as the black bar single click on the words MAPS or NEWS...
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||bleujay||10/3/13 8:53 AM|
Time consuming and useless. Every time google forces something on me I use it less and less. It's coming to the point to say goodbye to google.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Ayla Sozundendonmez||10/3/13 9:02 AM|
NO WE WON'T!THE NEW GOOGLE BAR IS BAD AND ALL GOOGLE USERS AND I KNOW IT!EITHER CHANGE GOOGLE BACK TO WHERE IT WAS BEFORE OR I WILL REPORT GOOGLE TO THE SAFARI STAFF TO GET IT FIXED UP!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||mkmcelroy||10/3/13 9:43 AM|
I'd like to also add my vote to the "please stop adding extra clicks to my product experience" category. When I need to get to, say, my calendar, I need to get to it now. Hiding it away may satisfy the aesthetic need for simplicity of some users, but it slows down the product experience and clearly rankles a number of us. Please allow us to opt out of this unpleasant modification.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||lldenmark||10/3/13 9:45 AM|
I completely agree. Who thought ADDING CLICKS was a good idea?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||wimpydog||10/3/13 9:52 AM|
The black tool bar was a great help. when I was looking up something on Google and wanted to see if YouTube had it I could just click on the YouTube tab on the black bar. But now I have to copy and paste then go to YouTube. You did not help anyone by doing this. Don't you all have better things to do.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Izzy Paris||10/3/13 10:35 AM|
I NEED MY BLACK BAR BACK, AT LEAST MAKE IT AN OPTIONAL THING FOR EVERYONE LIKE A PLUG IN, EXTENSION, SOMETHING...
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Johnnomon||10/3/13 10:41 AM|
Enable an option to switch to the previous design; this new one is rubbish.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Mark Thompson||10/3/13 11:39 AM|
Any more efficiency like this and they're going to start efficienting themselves out of a job.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||One13Truck||10/3/13 11:43 AM|
I've set Bing to the simplified look without the pictures and it's layout is still a lot like Google was with the black bar. I've still always gone back to Google to use my searches but I think I'll just be using GMail until I can find a replacement for that and skipping Google for searching. Your changes just to change while adding steps and making things more complicated is a terrible idea.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||d casey||10/3/13 11:55 AM|
reminds me of Windows telling us how wonderful Windows 8 would be...would it be so hard to just give us an option?...does ANYONE really find the bar intrusive??...nonsensical..sometimes "improvements" are really that...this is not
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Rachel Kiefaber||10/3/13 11:58 AM|
I really do not understand why Google changed the navigation bar. The black bar was much more efficient and easier to understand/use than the new navigation system. This is in no way a "simpler design." There should be an option to revert back to the black bar (like when Gmail introduced the new compose and people were given the option to stick with the old compose for a little longer).
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||themoose53||10/3/13 1:21 PM|
Once again, Google "fixes" something that does not need fixing. And, they do it without telling you.
I don't know about everyone else; but, I have bad vision. Hunting around for a little patch of dots that looks like a vaccination test site was not fun this morning. I used to be able to click once on the menu to get my news or my mail. Now I have to click twice ... once on the little dots and once to get my news or my mail.
Not a very good design. Not a well-thought-out design when you've got thousands of baby boomers retiring every day ... some portion of which will have poor vision.
Why can't you do a user study before you make changes like this??
Why can't we be given the option to choose the one that works for us??
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||John R Giancone||10/3/13 4:24 PM|
Why must everything be app driven? Has the entire tech world abandoned PC users? Give us a choice to have or not have the black menu bar atop of my main google page.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Luke Lozowski||10/3/13 4:45 PM|
I agree with it in 200%. The biggest problem for me is translate. It used to be 2 clicks. 1 on more and 2 on Translate.
Now, I have to click on this app icon, scroll down and then click. Plus copy or type in text again, as it is not passed from google search like it used to do.
What a disaster. I would love to meet the person responsible for this change and tell him/her what I think about it.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||djhousley||10/3/13 5:43 PM|
have the option to revert, this is more clicks than necessary
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Valerie3||10/3/13 7:36 PM|
How the hell do I revert back? I could possibly live with it if it were just the bar displayed above services like gmail, but it's vanished off the main google page too... the one I have set as my default entirely for the ease of one-click access to the google services I use.
Do not tell me I can put them in the bookmarks toolbar. My bookmarks toolbar is full. If I had 3 more bookmark toolbars they would be full too. ALL the bookmarks would be in a toolbar if only they would fit, so I can see all the things, all at once, and possibly have a chance of remembering what I opened a new tab for in the first place.
That hideous app button that's appeared in the corner is
If you want it to look nice on mobile devices, OFFER A MOBILE VERSION like every other website does -- so I can promptly shut it off.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Rebecca McK||10/3/13 8:53 PM|
The new Google home page is NOT EASIER to use and does NOT ENHANCE the users Google experience. Did anyone bother test this thing before the launch? Are there just a bunch of "yes people" at Google now? Google used to have some sharp minds -- looks like they have all left the company. Google needs to start considering their customers and stop making our lives more complicated!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Никита Обухов||10/4/13 12:59 AM|
How can I get black bar black? The new design is highly inconvenient. With black bar I could navigate to any of Google products in 1, 2 at most jumps. Now I have to expand this shitty grid, click the More button, scroll then down, arrggh!!
Please give me my black bar back!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Catherine Steinke||10/4/13 12:59 AM|
Seriously HATE the new design. Bleck-pukka! Hate it. Will abandon google for other options if not remedied within the week.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Mr-M||10/4/13 1:39 AM|
At least make it optional!?
Any hacks/extensions that will bring it back?.. guessing google want "fix" it again.
This is not what i or anyone i know wants.. wtf..
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Johnnomon||10/4/13 1:42 AM|
Why is it that here I have my black nav bar but not in the startup page?
Some days into it and it remains annoying. Not only is the menu at the opposite side of my screen and in that delays all searching, I intensely dislike clicking TWICE when ONCE used to be enough.
Also, extension notifications hover over the menu forcing me to dismiss or close those before I can even use the (cr)app menu.
The genius who suggested this idea would better fit at Microsoft.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Stephanie Caldwell||10/4/13 2:03 AM|
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Luke Lozowski||10/4/13 2:33 AM|
So can you please un-unveil your NEW Google Search bar?
It is rubbish. I just did quick survey with other search engines. The main reason why I am using google, was this black bar on top. It was easy and officiant to use. NOW IT IS NOT.
Why Windows RS/8 wasn't successful? Because of the tiles. Everybody complain about them. They delete Start button that been in Windows since version 3 or even earlier and gave us "apps". It was there for over 20 years. They replace it with something that you cannot use and make you confuse.
I will not say "change it, or I will start using something else", as there is nothing else to use. But please guys, DO SOMETHING about it. Maybe it is better on mobile devices, but not on desktop. Even on my tablet I am using desktop versions of websites. Galaxy Note 10.1 has big enough screen.
I am angry and VERY disappointed.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Luke Lozowski||10/4/13 2:36 AM|
That is all what they had to do. I was thinking about it as well. This is what I want, customizable tab. Not this .... grid button.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||guitalex||10/4/13 3:50 AM|
Previously, it would take ONE CLICK to get to the most locations (black bar): YouTube, maps, etc. Now we have to:
1. Move the mouse all the way to the right - VERY ANNOYING AND NOT ERGONOMIC.
At the same time, people were complaining when the black bar was introduced, now they complain about it going away....
Anyway, I think the positioning and the amount of clicks it takes to get things done is FAR FROM IDEAL!!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||stanzieg||10/4/13 4:55 AM|
Just recording my disappointment in the removal of the black bar. One-click is SOOOOO much more convienent than the App chooser. Please give users a setting to enable faster navigation!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Mark Sheldrake||10/4/13 5:26 AM|
I agree with the other users here. I spent several minutes in Settings trying to find a way to bring the black apps bar back. The new design may look simpler to you at Google, but seriously? You think it was confusing us to have the black apps bar that we could just click on and select what we needed? That is similar to hiding the shift lever in your car until you press a button to allow you to concentrate on driving. Shifting the car is part of driving. And selecting what app we need is part of using Google.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||rb1248||10/4/13 5:51 AM|
I'll add my post as well to echo the comments of everyone above. I understand your potential motivation for making this change for users accessing Google services from tablet services, but to force this change onto browsers from real computers as well is downright silly! Forcing an additional click and unnecessary scrolling is a great way to dissuade users from clicking through to other Google services...
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Meister Fleißig||10/4/13 6:31 AM|
I too wish there at least were an option to switch back to the black bar.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||bcwilliams8||10/4/13 7:01 AM|
The old format was great and I want it back. I realize that people are resistant to change, but you've actually made it harder to navigate to shortcuts that were readily available. This is a reduction in efficiency and functionality.
Please provide users the option to set Google to the previous setting with the highly useful "black bar".
I don't need a warm friendly personalized relationship with a search engine. I need utility and simplicity.
Whomever thought this was a good idea was dead wrong. Period.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Ken Mazur||10/4/13 7:11 AM|
Exactly. It's kind of sad to think Bing actually has the superior UI at this point.
I just don't understand the point of minimalism, when the design wasn't cluttered to begin with. The same thing occurred with the Youtube player and now we have an extra 2 clicks to change resolutions or turn off captions there.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||KeepItSimpleG00gle||10/4/13 7:16 AM|
Suddenly the YouTube link has disappeared from the top of my Google search homepage, and its replacement (an icon under the new 'grid') doesn't work in the same way. I used to be able to transfer my Google search directly to YouTube by just clicking the YouTube link. Now I have to copy my Google search text, click on the grid, click on the YouTube icon and then paste my search text into the search field on YouTube. How is this an improvement?
I don't know what causes me more grief - the seemingly unnecessary changes to Google and YouTube, or that fact that the changes are just made without informing us, so we end up searching the internet to find out why things are suddenly not working as they were. Why don't Google and YouTube have an email newsletter to let us know what is going to happen in advance?
Can anybody tell me the best way to pass constructive criticism to Google & YouTube? Is it through these Google Groups? Does Google even listen? I use Google & YouTube A LOT, which is why I get frustrated when things suddenly don't work and useful features are removed.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Johnnomon||10/4/13 7:21 AM|
I agree, it isn't about change as it is about efficiency. I want my search engine to pop up results, not make my life complete nor decide which results I prefer.
I switched to DDG; it reminds me a bit of what Google used to be.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ewest305||10/4/13 8:15 AM|
Adding my voice asking for the black bar back. Why oh why does google do this? They did something similar with Youtube. Removing features and adding features they guess would make us happy. I am starting to hate google programmers.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Cdaddyhudsoc||10/4/13 9:05 AM|
Google, I expect better from you. You screwed up...BIGTIME. First youtube and now google. Change it back. The black bar was perfect. No one likes the apps crap. Now bing is superior. What a shame. There is still time. Fix it... Now. I am extremely angry, disappointed, and disgusted with what you have done with the black bar and youtube. Fix it.
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||I'm Puzzled||10/4/13 10:11 AM|
Every time Google makes "improvements" it turns out to be harder to use and way less effective. Two clicks for News instead of one and that's after you can find it. It's under the Apps button! We have sheep for programmers and car designers today.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Yhitzak||10/4/13 11:03 AM|
It takes two clicks -minimum- to get to everything. What is the sense in hiding options? I know that I for one am willing to sacrifice a centimeter or less for an option bar so that I don't have that stupid grid with an inadequate drop-down menu.
The most problematic for me is the Google search page which no longer has things I use constantly: Maps, Shopping, and Translate to name a few. Images happens to be an option that shows up at the top of my screen, but what about everything else? Now I have to perform a search and then click on the sub-option.
Once again, and I'm going to repeat this as often as necessary until someone understands it: complicating things does not, in any way, simplify anything!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Yhitzak||10/4/13 11:05 AM|
Wait, I'm sorry, it is all there in that awful drop-down menu. My brain just doesn't work in terms of Google's silly icons, I actually like words.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Jon Spencer||10/4/13 11:45 AM|
Dis. Like. Very. Much.
Please revert. I like change as much as the next guy, but gee. This is not progress.
Black = Beautiful.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Zachary Greeley||10/4/13 11:50 AM|
Please Give Us an option to chose from the two layouts. i really loved the black bar. it helped me search so much easier. If i would search for something like "color markers" in the search and then wanted to watch videos about it. all i would have to do is click on youtube with the black bar and it would keep the same search topic. i Loved it. I used it all the time. It makes it so much harder to search for stuff now.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Matthew Bedard||10/4/13 1:31 PM|
This new layout takes me 10 extra clicks at a time roughly 5 times a day, equating to about 2 minutes of time wasted per day. In reality with the quality of my vision and responsiveness of my mouse it is even more difficult to find the apps button compared to the bar at the top. I also struggle to read the black on white text in this new format, and really miss the high contrast provided previously.
For now I am almost exclusively using my corporate account of google apps which has not rolled out the new update yet, thankfully. Once it does, I may have to start forwarding my gmail to outlook and using firefox again which is easier to customize to my needs, which chrome previously met perfectly.
Please make it possible to revert to the black apps bar on top, or release an app/extension that enables it.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||tiffanyspotential||10/4/13 3:52 PM|
So how do we get it back? Is there a petition somewhere? That's the thing...when a corporation has all the power what do they care what their users think?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Grayson Morris||10/4/13 5:00 PM|
Bad change. Too many clicks to access Google Apps. Please give users the option of keeping the simple bar at the top.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||tboer||10/4/13 6:46 PM|
Please provide users with a clear option to select either the bar or grid. Personally, I want the bar - and would like it even more if it was configurable. There's a reason I have my homepage set to Google and not Y!: I care about workflow, not getting "a new look".
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||usernametaken69||10/4/13 7:08 PM|
The "Improvement" sucks. Looks like Bing wins, with easier use. Maybe I'll try Duckduckgo.com. After a few days with this new crap on Google, I've had it with their changes. Where's Youtube, translate, news, gmail, images, etc... ? At least give us the option of keeping the page we had the day before you fucking changed it. Wankers.... I hope you brain surgeons figure out this will cost you money. It's your site to fuck up. Go for it ! LOL
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Johnnomon||10/5/13 12:12 AM|
I've been using Google since the beginning of time but this last change was the drop. I'm on Duckduckgo now and that one still realizes users sometimes have preferences too. It ain't perfect but at least it allows a degree of flexibility and cuts back on the crapp.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Zen Kitteh||10/5/13 6:48 AM|
Behold, a petition to bring back the black nav bar (or at least offer the option to use it over the new layout).
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||tin_soldier||10/5/13 7:21 AM|
Having to click twice when I used to click once is NOT a simpler design.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Ted Nunn||10/5/13 8:43 AM|
I want the old version back, which had one less click to get where I want to go from any Google screen.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||James Grimshaw||10/5/13 10:11 AM|
what a pain
I have to revert back to IE8 or Safari, which still uses the Google black bar search engine.
there is a hack, but its not simple to use, and only works for chrome
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Pawllo||10/5/13 10:43 AM|
What is this ?? Microsoft?? . .. Hotmail??? leave it alone already!!! Jeezus, what is it with you companies??/
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||oregonbirds||10/5/13 10:49 AM|
Actually I'm here because it's missing from my Safari and I'm not happy about it! I too would like a choice as I want the black bar it was perfect
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||James Grimshaw||10/5/13 10:55 AM|
bugger, yep you're right its gone from safari.
Still IE8 ... I can't believe I am going to say this but ... ftw
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||jamiedoll01||10/5/13 12:18 PM|
Word. I am one of the "older person or a person with disabilities". I am a retired multimedia digital data tech, and I TRULY loved the old nav bar. I have deQuervain's syndrome in my right thumb & wrist (and I'm right-handed) and currently undergoing treatments for it, so the one-click nav bar was great. I have set up many older/disabled folks with Google, because of its ease of use. I started getting calls from clients - young and older - about it yesterday. I did not know what was going on until I booted up this morning. However, knowing what I do about the "change-back" comments and complaints, folks, it's never gonna happen. It is what it is. Too bad the other search engines bite, too.
On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 12:19:13 PM UTC-4, robgambrill wrote:
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||robgambrill||10/5/13 12:46 PM|
A temporary (sort of ) fix for Firefox is to use the User Agent Switcher plugin from the add-ons repository . You can find it at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-switcher/
On Saturday Oct 5, 2013 one could still get the black bar in Search, Gmail and News by telling your browser to report itself as Internet explorer 8. Tools -> Default User Agent -> Internet Explorer -> Internet Explorer 8.
It causes problems on these forums though, you have to switch back Tools -> Default User Agent -> Default User Agent. Any given website may or may not work if your browser lies to it.
Telling your browser to lie isn't an ideal solution. It would be much better just to have the option to just opt out of the App Grid!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||jamiedoll01||10/5/13 1:13 PM|
You're absolutely right! Boo to Google.
I am not a fan of firefox. I have it only because when I access my job's payroll system from home (yeah, I'm working again), it is only compatible with IE and Firefox. I'm a Mac girl, so IE's workaround is out. I don't want to have to use Firefox because that's the only browser I can script to get Google's nav bar back. Is there a working script for Safari?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||robgambrill||10/5/13 1:34 PM|
I come from the other side, can't use I.E or Safari on Linux. Sorry I can't test the following for you.
For Safari, you might look here for User Agent Switching info:
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||jamiedoll01||10/5/13 2:00 PM|
THANK YOU! I should be able to juryrig this to make it work with Safari. I'll play with it on my imac & post a reply.
FYI: all you folks that's using a Mac operating system with your Safari, the Google searchpage navbar went away, too.
It's a Google thing, not a Safari (i.e., not your browser) thing.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Danock||10/5/13 2:06 PM|
BRING IT BACK! Don't change things just to change things. Stick with what works. BRING IT BACK! BRING IT BACK! BRING IT BACK! BRING IT BACK! BRING IT BACK! BRING IT BACK! BRING IT BACK! BRING IT BACK! BRING IT BACK! BRING IT BACK! BRING IT BACK! BRING IT BACK! BRING IT BACK! BRING IT BACK! BRING IT BACK! BRING IT BACK!
At least give us an option!
Now I have to click, hunt, and click again when I used to one-click. Boy, that's an improvement! Next time ask me first.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||James Grimshaw||10/5/13 2:28 PM|
You might start here:
I am leaving this here for those that want the google black navbar back. But its not a simple fix or permanent and requires some knowledge and a lot of patience.
the easiest solution, for now, is (for chrome only)
(1) create a bookmark Name: "Blackbar"
(3) goto -> Settings -> Advanced settings -> Content settings -> All cookies and site data
(4) type google in the search box and choose Remove all
Link will now work correctly, sorry that the best there is at the moment...
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||CheckeredZebra14||10/5/13 2:48 PM|
Now it takes two clicks to get to my Calendar and Drive! This is very frustrating when I am in a hurry in a classroom with 35 kids waiting for me to get to their assignments. Please give us the option to revert back to the old bar layout.
Our whole school district uses Gmail and it is very confusing for some of the teachers who are a little older and maybe "technologically challenged" when you change the layout so frequently and decide to use tiny picture icons instead of words. Teachers who have had training in the old system are suddenly lost and unable to do their job effectively just because you want to make the screen "less cluttered."
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Mike972||10/5/13 2:48 PM|
The problem for Google is the people that made this change needed something to do. Unfortunately they totally screwed up something that wasn't broken and made it less intuitive or easy to reach what normal people seek.
However, I've found a fix for the the new Google homepage screw-up (workaround). I just went to BING and set it as the default homepage. Nice little menu at the top with the things that I want to see there. Thanks for prodding me to change to Bing even though I never planned to! Bet your marketing folks didn't plan on people making that exit did they?
Hello Google, next time, give us options to keep what we like. This isn't an iPhone so don't be such an APPLE!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Halapalooza||10/5/13 3:16 PM|
Since my bookmark bar is already full with stuff I ACTUALLY use, what would you suggest that I do? Just suffer with inefficiency?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Wyatt23||10/5/13 3:16 PM|
You didn't UPDATE the google bar; you REMOVED it.
Also, I hoped this would be reverted by my birthday; it passed, and I'm still stuck with this crap.
... happy birthday to me ... google really hates me ... I asked it for options ... and customization isn't free ...
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Eli Ross||10/5/13 3:48 PM|
I could focus on what I was doing just fine before. This change is stupid. You've made it less obvious how to get between services and more cumbersome. I mean, really? You think it looks nicer to have a big block grid button with no label at all instead of the sleek little bar you used to have? Did you bother asking anyone what they thought of this idea before you decided to shove it out at people? Cause it's dumb. Really dumb. On so many levels.
You do realize you're going to have less of your own customers going between your services now, right? People who don't know the link is in your unlabeled button drop down just aren't going to go to your other sites now.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Manuel Montoya||10/5/13 4:33 PM|
This sucks, now I less productive and I am doing a lot of more clicks and copy/paste stuff.
Why the google search logo appears and takes a lot of space when I am ALREADY in google.com? Now if I want to translate a full line after make a search (something I do fifty times every day) I need retype the full line or leave the browser, go back to my editor, select the line, copy, leave the editor, go back to the browser and paste the text AGAIN!! Is very annoying.
The same happen with youtube, with the black bar I could made a "multi-section search" in a fast and fluid pace, now I need much more clicks and retypes.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||L-a-L Gorror||10/5/13 5:35 PM|
I hope if enough people comment on this, maybe Google will get the message. The black bar was efficient. It was right at my finger tips; I didn't have to search around for it. It FELT modern. The dropdown menu makes me feel like I'm back to some old microsoft computer opening folders to find the file I want.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||L-a-L Gorror||10/5/13 5:44 PM|
As a side note, I noticed that Bing seems to have something more reminiscent of the black bar. I'm gonna give it a try.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Pablo Zepeda||10/5/13 6:52 PM|
Please bring black bar back
I don't like this new app to many clicks
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Ted T. Tedson||10/5/13 7:09 PM|
Don't like doing more to achieve the same functionality I had previously.
How about a choice or vote?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||MaryLamber (aka: Marah Marie)||10/5/13 7:29 PM|
In other news, I saw one Chrome add-on dev is working on bringing the black bar back to his add-on (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/big-g-black-bar-sorter/oiamgkpplhllmgmjkmpoapkidpgfhmdo?hl=en) - if he gets enough reviews in favor of doing so - so if you want it back, put in a good word with him there. Anything he creates can always be used to get ideas for Firefox extensions and userscripts that will do the same thing. :)
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||mrnapolean1||10/5/13 7:38 PM|
Yall are all lucky that the grid/app switchover just inconvenienced you. Me not only did it inconvenience me but it also wiped out all my archived and labeled messages in the process.
90% of them are non replaceable.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||LastStargazer||10/5/13 9:43 PM|
Now when I want to change my search from web to youtube I have to click on the squares, choose youtube, wait for youtube to open, and type my search again. Sometimes it transfers the search query to youtube but mostly it doesn't or it opens my search results from my last youtube session. Why can't we just have a setting to get the black bar back.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||OscarGoldman||10/5/13 10:33 PM|
This is idiotic. It doesn't even save space, since there are still menu items on the upper right, including the unexplained waffle icon.
Google has taken bad UI to a new level of incompetence with this. Seriously, Google: Hire someone from outside to do your UI and branding. They're both abysmal.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||grupis||10/6/13 2:11 AM|
I wish to give you feedback since every time I have googled something today, I have had to type it twice, and I always get a negative sting close to anger.
One of the things I used to appreciate the most about Google chrome was the possibility to search things by entering key wards to the address bar. After the latest update I always forget and upset myself that I again typed the key word to the address bar and then I am directed to Google and have to retype the info again. I find it very inconvenient. How long will it stay like this or why it was decided to remove the functionality to search by address bar?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Fredrik87||10/6/13 4:28 AM|
Please provide a way to add the black bar at the top! I don't mind new design but I mind when the functionality is destroyed. If you REALLY care about us your customers then you will provide a way to get the black bar back.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||rojo495||10/6/13 8:40 AM|
There were not too many things that could have driven me to Bing, but getting rid of the black bar did it. I also don't like the manipulative attempt to drive me to Google+. Big mistake Google. Goodbye...
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Nancy Ronan||10/6/13 8:45 AM|
I LOATHE the change to the drop down menu.
There is NO advantage in this change. Instead of a one step easy click process there are now TWO steps. Instead of easy visibility at the TOP of the page, the menu is now hidden. I can think of NO possible advantage to the user, nor to Google.
Please explain why you made this change and HOW YOUR DISSATISFIED CUSTOMERS CAN REVERT TO THE BLACK BAR.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Medhavi Mishra||10/6/13 10:41 AM|
Ya please ..I want my old chrome back ! This app grid is really irky !
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||James Griffing||10/6/13 10:42 AM|
For those of you that do not like the new navigation, and want the black bar back install this style I created.
You'll need either Mozilla Firefox or Google Chrome with the extension Stylish.
Firefox Stylish add on:https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stylish/
after you have Stylish installed, install my style from http://userstyles.org/styles/93706/google-black-nav-bar-returns
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ronna||10/6/13 11:42 AM|
Folks, the add-on by James Griffing works!!! yay James!
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||robgambrill||10/6/13 12:03 PM|
Thanks James! Your Stylish utility and theme seems to do what I really wanted, and It eliminates the problems with User Agent Switching on firefox.
If Google doesn't change back, This looks like it could help the people with accessibility problems I was talking about in the earlier post. Also, even to this day, there are people (usually older) who are new to the internet and the constant changes throw them for a loop. Jame's add-on at least gives them the choice of using the familiar (and in my opinion, better) method.
I was looking into making something similar, Mr. Griffing saved me a lot of work. If you are running Firefox and don't like the app grid, I recommend giving his Stylish add-on and theme a try!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||James Griffing||10/6/13 12:06 PM|
Thank you for the great feedback! I'm glad you find this useful.
I have one correction, I did make the theme, however I didn't make Stylish itself. I can't take the credit for that one, only the theme!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||James Grimshaw||10/6/13 12:29 PM|
Great style, works perfectly, and Great name too
though the search bar z-index is higher than the black bar, still really happy with it. thanks
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Valerie5||10/6/13 2:22 PM|
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Bostyan||10/6/13 3:39 PM|
What is wrong with you??? More clicking in year 2013???
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||James Griffing||10/6/13 3:42 PM|
Hey, Thanks for pointing that out, Valerie. I updated the style, and it should work in every country now.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||danstro||10/6/13 3:56 PM|
The new google homepage is terrible.
The black bar had everything I needed in one easy to access spot. One click. Simple.
It was not broken, did not need fixing.
Now I have to click the apps launcher, then look around for whatever link I want to use like the news link, or the maps link?
How is this an improvement? It is advertised as "simpler" but it is actually the opposite of that, it takes MORE work not less. Total fail.
Please bring the old design back, or a choice between old and and new. Thank you.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||mrnapolean1||10/6/13 4:19 PM|
Thanks for the style script. but however it does not bring back my non replaceable emails I had before this happened.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ewest305||10/6/13 6:40 PM|
Nealeigh, there are already add-ons developed to circumvent this crapshoot "update". Learn from this. Consult with users before making changes. Stop undermining your original selling point: ease of use, fast results. You really need a new CEO apparently.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Valerie5||10/6/13 7:18 PM|
Awesome, I just updated and it works! Thanks so much for this. :)
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Someone Wise||10/6/13 8:54 PM|
We want an option to get the top black bar BACK!
It was very easy to access the various Google services with one click...
Now, to get to "Translate" for example, you have to click icon, scroll down, click again....
The same is regarding most of the other services as well. At least an option to rearrange the apps inside the new "main apps icon" would be somewhat better than nothing....
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||bound4glory||10/6/13 9:35 PM|
I don't believe you.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||One13Truck||10/7/13 12:11 AM|
You sir are a miracle worker. It's not exactly as it was but compared to that totally useless new "simplified" waffle layout this is fantastic! I have your theme on Chrome and firefox and it's working great on both!!! Thank you!!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||RedMtl||10/7/13 12:30 AM|
Seems great! Thanks! Wonder if Google will get the message . . .
On Sunday, 6 October 2013 13:42:31 UTC-4, James Griffing wrote:
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Jon Spencer||10/7/13 3:29 AM|
Thank you, James! It works brilliantly! Even better than before, because it displays more than just the first few menu items, but includes such faves as "Translate", among others.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||James Griffing||10/7/13 9:44 AM|
You'll need Greasemonkey (firefox addon) or Tampermonkey (chrome addon)
You can install it here
Don't have the userstyle AND the userscript turned on at the same time.
Both scripts work, you decide which one you want to use!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||A Cat!||10/7/13 10:36 AM|
That's brilliant, James. Thanks for posting the link!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||filups||10/7/13 10:50 AM|
making things harder to access
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||LucySchmidt||10/7/13 10:53 AM|
Thanks! That's good for a temporary work around until Google comes to its senses and at least gives us the option of which toolbar to use. I hope they're listening!!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Nelson Bass||10/7/13 11:00 AM|
Google search sucks now!!! I cannot find answers to my longer questions now. For some reason, I get a lot of no results pages recently and it is just frustrating. I'd switch, but BING sucks more and always has.
The new "Apps" button at the top sucks two. If I wanted to go to news or email straight from google.com, I used to just have one click to get there. Now I have look for the box with nine boxes (Apps) icon, click it, look for news or gmail, then click it; or if I want video or YouTube, I have to click "more" in the Apps button (depending on how small my window/browser size is), then look through all of those apps, THEN click on the App finally. When does it make since to turn a one click process into a 2-5 click process?
What ever changes are going on within Google, somebody has lost some logic somewhere in the process!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||filups||10/7/13 11:04 AM|
Thanks James. On google calendar I get the bar with all the links. On gmail, I get the black bar with only +You, on google.com I don't get any black bar. Any clues why? Any hints on how to add google scholar to the bar?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||LucySchmidt||10/7/13 11:27 AM|
Let me add my discontented voice to those who dislike the "new and improved" toolbar option. It was so convenient to have everything at the top of the page, necessitating only click. A "new and improved" idea would be to ask users which they prefer and/or provide a choice. PLEASE don't make me go back to IE!!! I hope the Google developers and decision makers are listening to their users. What a novel concept that would be....
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ronna||10/7/13 11:37 AM|
On Monday, October 7, 2013 1:32:28 PM UTC-5, mrnapolean1 wrote:
> Is it me or does the maps look funny with the stylish scrpit?
what about it looks "funny" ?? I looked at your attachment. I went to my own Google Maps (with stylish Black Bar) and it looks fine to me. :o)
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||mrnapolean1||10/7/13 11:37 AM|
Is it me but does Google Maps look funny when using the stylish script?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||James Griffing||10/7/13 12:10 PM|
@filups and mrnapolean, and anyone else with bug issues, can you email me at JamesTGr...@gmail.com
It'll be easier to help you all that way, and not spam this thread so much.
Email me, and I'll help y'all out!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||RedMtl||10/7/13 12:12 PM|
Hi Mr. Griffing
I like your offering, and have installed it -- but I'm seeing a problem and wonder if you are aware of it and can offer comment.
If I go to Google Calendar, select any given event, then want to edit it I can't do so any more if the Stylish install is function.
The "search calendar" bar overlaps the other buttons such as "save" and "discard" rending them inoperative.
I can add a screen shot if that would help you.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||James Griffing||10/7/13 12:20 PM|
Hey RedMtl, can you email me at JamesTGr...@gmail.com ? I'll help you through there. I'm trying not to spam this thread :).
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||RedMtl||10/7/13 12:21 PM|
On Monday, 7 October 2013 15:10:56 UTC-4, James Griffing wrote:
Looks like your post and mine were pretty much done at the same time. Do you still want it by e-mail or given I already put it here would it perhaps be something others are also interested in?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||James Griffing||10/7/13 12:29 PM|
I'd prefer by email, reasons are this thread isn't intended for my style, and the issues usually will be fixed pretty quickly. I've just updated the style and fixed the calendar event issue, and the Google maps issue that someone else had.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||RedMtl||10/7/13 12:37 PM|
On Monday, 7 October 2013 15:29:36 UTC-4, James Griffing wrote:
Yep, that fixed the Calendar. Oddly, the groups page is now screwy! What fun.
But, thank you and you can ignore the e-mail I sent.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Max Taf||10/7/13 12:57 PM|
Obviously, this is a contested topic. Some love the change, some hate it. As one of those that prefers the black bar, I would point out that you already have the code available for the black bar. It should be child's play for your coders to give us, the users, the option in our settings to choose which version we prefer. You already allow some customization of our personal homepage, so this would just be an extension of that. It would also give you metrics on how many prefer which style, which would give you more data for future upgrades.
Right now, I am using a script that a private coder created to restore my black bar, and I really appreciate the effort he put in. But it's not as seamless as the original. It's got to be better for Google to have us using an official version, than a hack.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Willie May||10/7/13 1:49 PM|
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Arda Karaduman||10/7/13 10:43 PM|
Google, I hate your new bar. I want to be able to go my Drive with a SINGLE CLICK.
Just because of this I postponed my upgrade of my Drive account. I'm fed up with your stupid design changes.
If you want to appeal to the less experienced user, fine, do so. But GIVE AN OPTION for folks to use a more streamlined interface.
There are lots of annoying things with your new user interface. First thing that pops to my mind is the fact that the 'Back to Inbox' arrow buton and 'Reply To' arrow button look virtually the same. It's just stupid, I can't really understand / justify the recent UI mess ups. It's just too newbie UI design flops for a company like Google to make.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Mike the Kiwi||10/8/13 12:14 AM|
I hate the new look...bring back the black bar
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Upyers Page||10/8/13 5:20 AM|
So, how many people have to say it sucks? I've used Google since when people used to say "What the hell is a google?" and now they are finally big enough to ignore us all. You don't need us, you own the market now. Lose ten million clients and you're still on top. Why won't these people just shut up and do what you tell them?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||OscarGoldman||10/8/13 7:01 AM|
Who "loves" it?
I don't see anyone cheering for the demise of a shitload of functionality.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||DKS1975||10/8/13 8:09 AM|
WHY WHY WHY has google done this to their homepage?!?!? Used to be so easy and efficient, everything was right there, news, maps, youtube, gmail...all one easy click; now we have to go through this stupid grid and hunt through all of these stupid cartoonish icons--adding an extra labor-intensive step is NOT an increase in efficiency!! Why does google insist upon screwing up an already flawless product!?!?! HATE IT!!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Stopokingme||10/8/13 1:06 PM|
+1 to everyone elses comments here. Really Google? You loved windows 8 so much that you had to make another useless set of icons? If you wanted to update, how about a nice black bar that lets you choose your preferred Google stuff - or better yet, just the old black bar and be done with it. Is it a big deal - no. Is it worth getting as bent as half the people here are - probably not. Is it annoying - most definitely.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Aaron Twist||10/8/13 1:08 PM|
This is terrible, just stop making so many fucking changes. The other grey bar was better.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||AngryBars||10/8/13 2:25 PM|
BRING BACK THE BLACK BAR. At the very least, give your user base the ability to opt-out of sweeping, poor, and terribly inefficient design choices.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||shiva777||10/8/13 2:43 PM|
Wow I can now focus SO much better on my "product experience" without those pesky links at the top!! Now Google has added an extra mouse click to get to useful features. Genius!! Yeeha!!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Josh Donivan||10/8/13 4:19 PM|
Found a fix for now...
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||DJ52||10/8/13 6:12 PM|
Every reply/post here is from someone saying they HATE the new Google bar, so why is Google not listening??? Google, it's your users many, many opinions, against yours. I hate it too. But I am also not a fan of MANY of the changes you've forced on users over the last few years, but especially lately.
What a sad horrible mess Google has become. There are numerous bugs and very poor design decisions that are making many of Google's pages buggy, slow, unresponsive, and in some cases, simply unusable.
This Group page is a great example of how horrible things have become, taking forever to load, freezing on some pages, blank pages devoid of content, etc.. How annoying. Hasn't anyone ever told you, DON'T EVER MESS WITH THE BROWSER'S BACK BUTTON? Don't break my history and force me to use some non-standard back button you've placed in some obscure location of the page that I have to search for.
One of things I have always hated, is the "phishing" links on your search result pages. Why do you do this? Everywhere else on the Internet, it's considered bad form to mask the actual location of a link, and replacing it so it shows a different link in the browser status bar. Instead, all the SERP links are redirect links. Google, surely you could find a better way to track links on your SERPs, instead of using dubious practices? If I try to copy a link, it gives me the Google redirect script location, instead of the link I'm trying to copy. I hate that. Bad usability! Bad Google!
What used to be the fastest search service, with an understanding that simplicity rules, has been replaced with a wanna be, second rate service, with a goal of looking flashy, and putting style before substance, while completely turning their backs on USABILITY!!!
Seriously, WTF happened to Google? It has turned into a big ugly piece of bloated dog doo, that I have to be careful not to step in, but somehow it always gets on my shoes anyways.
Google, stop feeling the need to be "sexy". Your "sexy" has always been in your simplicity. Surely you must appreciate that you have strayed in the wrong direction, towards some far off distant planet.
I've been a web designer since before you were born, and I literally cringe at what you've become. It's like a bunch of your developers sat in a room, smoked a big fatty, and someone uttered "Lets make it Cool dude".
Well, it's not cool. It's cold. And really, really, really annoying. The absolute worst out of all the annoyances is speed/overhead. You've gone from first place, to dead last in that department. It's not about being afraid of change. I'm open to change, if it's positive. The only thing I'm positive about, is that you seem to be intent on screwing up what used to be a good thing.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||rejmarch||10/8/13 6:25 PM|
you let us down with IGoogle, so you can put your bar where the moon don't shine. Even Chrome will be history for me when IGoogle will die on Nov 1
have a bad day.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ivytwines||10/8/13 10:10 PM|
Yeah, I hate the apps icon. TWO CLICKS TO GET TO ANOTHER GOOGLE APP? That is a design fail. I want to go back to link bar where it only took 1 click to get to another app. Or did you want me to stop using all of the google apps? Then your UI redesign might make some sense!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Ira hatesnamepolicies||10/9/13 1:43 AM|
Not one positive comment. I smell a trend. Just want "news" in one click. is that so hard?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Giordano Bruno||10/9/13 6:29 AM|
Google and Microsoft have established as two of the least responsive and bullying companies. I do not like Google's new configuration and I want the black bar back. I regard this, like Microsoft's policies, as just another coercive change masquerading as an upgrade. Need I remind Google and Microsoft, this is MY PERSONAL COMPUTER, not yours. I want what I want, when I want it and not when I don't. I do not wish to be coerced into accepting another specious change to my interface. The so-called new interface is not an upgrade, it adds nothing to my already reliably functioning computer, Google is not offering better stability, faster access, better security, or improved accuracy and precision of a search; I get a lot more useless returns on a search then I do useful. As search app Google is useful but is often a real death march. Now their biggest "improvement" is a change in the interface. Google and Microsoft are one-trick ponies, Google has a fast search engine and Microsoft has a flawed operating system, big deal; on the whole they have stifled real change and technological innovation the old fashioned lazy way, by buying out the competition. There is less choice currently than there was in the '80s and early '90s. Both Google and Microsoft seem to believe they don't need to compete anymore, let's hope that the future will prove them wrong. In the meantime at least offer your users the option of accepting this so-called change or retaining what we are already familiar. How hard can that be?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ronna||10/9/13 6:36 AM|
BLACK GOOGLE BAR RETURNS!
I am so happy that one of the posters here has created a new style and BROUGHT BACK THE BLACK BAR.
check it out if you use FF or Chrome ...
No more tic-tac-toe for me! yay!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Ivan Nieves||10/9/13 9:44 AM|
How do we switch back to the global navbar? How do we prevent this change from happening to out Google Apps for Education implementations?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||robgambrill||10/9/13 9:58 AM|
Man,the tech news is abuzz with the new makeover at yahoo and how it has some of the best features of old Google. It probably isn't a coincidence because Marissa Mayer left Google to run Yahoo.
It makes me wonder if the tick-tac-toe interface isn't just the new team blowing raspberries at their old boss's design. It sure doesn't make sense from a usability standpoint.
One article is at http://globalnews.ca/news/889019/yahoos-email-becomes-more-like-gmail-in-redesign/ , but you can find a lot more articles in Google news. ( http://news.google.com or click a bunch of times on the waffle.)
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ClownWhisper||10/9/13 5:25 PM|
google drive is just terrible!
i send files there in my desktop, and try to find them using my laptop and they are no visable.
its just an overly complex cluster @#$%
just go back to the straight web storage..
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Dan124z||10/9/13 5:31 PM|
Also not impressed with the change. We should have a choice to keep the old bar, or at least customize the buttons on the new one. But it would seem that Google has more than enough users, they reported a profit of $3.23 billion in Q2 2013, it wouldn't make much difference to them financially if a few hundred thousand of us went elsewhere. As long as they still get everyone else to keep clicking ads then all is well at Google. As with previous changes their idea seems to be for people to suck it up or go somewhere else. I will be going somewhere else if the current trend continues.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Darwin Long||10/9/13 6:23 PM|
There is a MAJOR bug with the new Navigation Bar layout... the selection of options behind or in front of your "+Username" label to the left of the App Launcher Box (i.e. Advanced Search, Images, etc) change erratically from screen to screen, and from time to time as I open the Search or Advanced Search URL. Sometimes I open Google Search and find "Images" there, but not at other times. At least the Black Bar had consistency within my logged-in account across all products about showing all major search products (BOTH Gmail AND Images), whereas the new style doesn't (most of the time, it's just blank in front of my "+Username" link). Also, the App Launcher Box should include BOTH Google Images AND Google Advanced Search. Currently, there's no way to call these products unless you're lucky to see "Images" or "Advanced Search" spontaneously decide to appear in front of your "+Username" link upon opening Search. A User should be able to CUSTOMIZE the App Launcher Box to behave the same way within their logged-in account across all products. FIX THIS!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||David Firestone||10/9/13 7:20 PM|
The "App Launcher" is a waste of time.
Bring back the list of "Web, Images, Maps, etc" on the initial Google.com page. I used them several times everyday. I shouldn't have to do a search first to get these options on the results page.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Ayla Sozundendonmez||10/9/13 9:40 PM|
Excuse me ma'am.But could you please change Google back to where it was now please.....I like the black bar and please remove the new bar from my google page please:)
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||I'm Puzzled||10/10/13 12:26 AM|
Thank you for the "black bar" menu on the home page.
Now can we have the "Sort By Sender" capability in Gmail that we have wanted for the last decade or so?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||LoneCoder||10/10/13 4:27 AM|
No one in my office likes this change. Why not leave a way to have both? Seriously, I'm really getting sick of the trend lately of being told how my UI should work. Trillian is the worst with their crap and now here comes Google pulling the same thing.
Please put the bar back.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||saiiibot||10/10/13 4:50 AM|
what have we to do to get the back bar back? this app launcher is so annoying. before i could click "news" and it was up. now i have to move over to app launcher, click it, identify the news icon and click this. You product is no longer productive to me. Now i have to use browser tweaks to work around it. good job!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||the compose "experience"||10/10/13 5:10 AM|
This new grid thing is a piece of crap. Scroll right, Click, Read, Click is a total waste of time. Don't you idiots know anything about UI design? Put it back to the way it was. Now.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||saiiibot||10/10/13 5:22 AM|
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||the compose "experience"||10/10/13 5:41 AM|
Thanks, the Stylish method works great. I previously tried the Greasemonkey script on FF but it did not work. Thanks again!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Chara Rydzak||10/10/13 5:55 AM|
I really dislike this new apps presentation update. it adds yet another extra click to my life making getting to and from things less efficient. I want the black bar back so i can click directly on the listed link i want and not have to hover or click and then click again from this silly apps icon.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Zen Kitteh||10/10/13 7:57 AM|
Hate to have to post this a second time but I don't think many here have read it. A petition to Google to bring back the old black nav bar.
I suggest this petition be signed and spread far and wide. A few million signers would be nice but will settle for 10,000.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||I'm Puzzled||10/10/13 8:08 AM|
I have the black bar menu on Firefox browser but not Google Chrome browser.
I hope I don't regret posting this information.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||cuoops||10/10/13 9:26 AM|
I logged in (very rare) just to say how much I hate this too. The popup that will not go away and taking 2 clicks to get to news or something else is very annoying.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Google search users||10/10/13 10:13 AM|
Well to call your new design as "simpler" is actually untrue, now at the google main search page i must look around for the grid, click once on grid, look for the icon i need, click on the icon, not very efficient. Prior to your new design it was radio buttons (tab style) at top of page, one look you saw what you needed and one click, fast and efficient, one look one click that is simple. What is not simple is the new look, find grid, click grid, find icon, click icon, i guess someone forgot to look at making it simple but forgot about efficiency. Remember the old acronym, KISS Keep It Simple not Stupid.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||jcmoonraker||10/10/13 1:41 PM|
Just want to agree with the rest of the posters. The new App launcher is horrible and adds clicks plus movement. It's visually irritating, and it's harder to move to exactly what you want due to the unnecessarily large icons.
Please allow us to turn the black bar on, or at least make a modifiable bar. The black bar was unobtrusive, and much easier to jump to the item you needed. You could also more easily launch a few different google apps.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||J.J. de Jong||10/10/13 1:46 PM|
I want either the black bar back or the ability to choose between the old familiar black bar or the new - imho - ugly white bar.
I consider the new white as good-willing, but "unwanted" initiative.
It just takes to much space from the webpage.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Cat s||10/10/13 2:03 PM|
Yeah I hate this new update. BRING BACK THE BLACK BAR!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Eric Voorhies||10/10/13 7:48 PM|
Has anyone ever actually seen any responsible figure at Google explain why they do this? It seems like every 3-4 months they roll out another bizarre interface change, virtually none of which are applicable or helpful to the PC market.
Sure, you can get used to most of them, but it's like having the controls of your car randomly rearranged every few months- maybe having the turn signal relocated is merely inconvenient, but it's a completely unnecessary inconvenience.
If it's so important to accomodate the growing mobile market (which I can believe), why doesn't Google just come up with a separate version of their own webpage for mobile devices, instead of making the PC users put up with a touchscreen-style interface with cartoonish inch-wide "buttons," and three or four layers of mouse clicks to get through all the button options, in place of a simple bar full of URL links?
Conversely, if they want to make the thing more efficient, why not just make it customizable?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Bubba Debounce||10/10/13 8:38 PM|
I want the black gbar back, I want one click.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||sagruob||10/11/13 4:25 AM|
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Jers_B||10/11/13 8:52 AM|
I really dislike the change made to the Google homepage, specifically moving all the links that were in the top left corner of the screen to an "app menu" on the right.
It was really convenient to just open the Google homepage and click on Google Maps immediately, for example. Now I have to first click the app icon on the right and choose Google Maps from the drop down menu.
I do not understand why this change was made. I know Google likes to have a clean homepage, which I do really appreciate, but those links were NOT cluttering the page. It's not like it freed up any space for anything else and it made things less convenient for users.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||SamiJ||10/11/13 9:21 AM|
Please bring back the original bar
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Chromenut||10/11/13 10:09 AM|
This is total BS. Let me tell you, Mr. or Ms. Google Admin/Moderator, this is complete BS. What on earth did someone at Google think they were doing when they went with this new nearly blank screen?
I have used Google as my one and only search engine for years now, ever since Google started. Google reminded me of Apple and how they started. Now Apple has gone completely commercial and is no longer a nice and friendly organization and I no longer use Apple hardware/software.
Now Google has gone the same route. You've changed, and the change is NOT GOOD. You don't seem to understand that. You think, based on your comments above, that this 'new' look is good? Here's what 99% of the complainers are going to say - back away from the pipe! Say no to drugs! You must be massively smewed in the brain to really think this new BS look is correct.
For years it was fun having Google as my search engine. I loved the way the Google label changed almost daily. It's actually my home page, because it was just fun to be there. I'd search for something and the results always brought in something new that I didn't expect and off I'd go - looking at something else completely different. Then as your image pages changed, they got better and better. Now, sadly, you've messed them up too. Sure, Google Maps is nice, along with many other apps, but come on! Google Search has been my home page for I don't know how many years, and based on the replies and responses all over the place about this new look - well, sadly I'm moving off to another home page and today is my last day on Google.
Add to this, I'm posting copies of the links to all of these threads where you've posted these ridiculous replies, acting as though, "oh, well, what we've created is great, simply click three times to get to the one item you used to click once to get to".
So, c'est la vie, and good bye Google! Shame, was my fav, now not even interested in visiting your world....
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||from me||10/11/13 10:19 AM|
Guys, this new look sucks.
I want the black bar back.
Don't presume you know what I want, OR that your hidden "find me somewhere, multi-click hunting method" system is better. The black bar was unobtrusive, easy to find, and had the more relevant choices in the first set.
Honestly, I wonder how someone, sitting in a little office somewhere, actually comes to the conclusion that an interface that gives you LESS choice on the first page is better.
Honestly, it goes beyond reason.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||from me||10/11/13 10:21 AM|
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ewest305||10/11/13 11:08 AM|
> Why this design?
> This simpler design lets you focus on your in product experience but switch to other Google products when you need to.
How does one "focus" on their "in product experience"? This statement makes no sense.
> How do I switch to another Google product?
> To open a new product, click on the Apps launcher icon and you’ll see a list of other Google applications.
My "google product" wasn't in the list. Did you mean to say I will need to search for it by hitting the more tab?
> How can I learn more?
> Check out this article from our Accounts help center and this post from our Inside Search blog.
I've already learned all I need to know. Google thinks they are so highly intelligent that they never need to consult the users of their products when making a change.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Samuel Newburger||10/11/13 11:09 AM|
PLEASE GIVE US THE OPTION FOR THE BLACK BAR.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||warning_no_connection||10/11/13 3:14 PM|
THIS IS BULLSHIT
JUST GIVE ME THE GOOD OLD BLACK BAR BACK
Whoever came up with this idea and whoever approved it should be fired instantly.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Anne Cummings||10/11/13 3:39 PM|
I would far prefer to keep the drive where I can access - I don't even know how to find it without 'googling' 'where is my drive'
i'm not so tech savvy and I want to have it accessible from my email account.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||JohnM121212||10/11/13 4:50 PM|
Now I have to click twice when I used to only have to click once. Why would you do this? Seriously.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Jonas Semenas||10/12/13 4:03 AM|
Can you please change back to the original black bar or have the option to choose which one we would like to use. Me and other users don't like this new change.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||tlombardo||10/12/13 5:31 AM|
Please bring back the old bar, Google, or at least give us a choice!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||krossbow||10/12/13 8:20 AM|
So after a week with the new launcher, I'm no longer looking for the black bar. The launcher has become habit. Not missing the black bar anymore.
“Change is inevitable. Growth is optional.”
― John C. Maxwell
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||the compose "experience"||10/12/13 8:26 AM|
The consensus here is that users want the black bar back. Nobody cares if you are not missing it anymore.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||James Grimshaw||10/12/13 8:29 AM|
- Donald Sutherland (Invasion of the Body Snatchers)
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||robgambrill||10/12/13 8:35 AM|
Not missing something isn't quite a ringing endorsement, do you like the app grid better? I sure don't!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Zen Kitteh||10/12/13 9:32 AM|
I will say this again. If you want the black bar back, sign this petition:
Also for a temporary fix check out either the Stylish style or the Greasemonkey script below (not mine):
Greasemonkey script (need Greasemonkey addon installed): http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/179402
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Victoria Holden||10/12/13 9:51 AM|
Thanks for the encouragement, but frankly I don't want to be forced to get into the habit of Click 1 on the grid, Click 2 to go down to the next page of apps, Click 3 to launch "Google Translate", Cut and Paste the URL of the page I need translating, Click again to "Translate". I want the two simple clicks on the black bar I had before. They can make the blasted bar whatever colour they like - just give me efficiency!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||One13Truck||10/12/13 10:14 AM|
Well I sort of now agree with Krossbow. After a week I don't miss the black bar either!!! But that may be because the second I saw that style to get a black bar back I had it installed on Firefox and Chrome. Unfortunately I'm still stuck with the terrible new waffle on Safari.
Come on Google. You've made changes before and gone back to the older and better design when it was shown the old look was better. It's time to suck it up and admit your mistake and do it again by giving us the old GMail and the old black bar back!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Jenifer Murch||10/12/13 2:50 PM|
Why do you hate us Google Chrome? I mean really. I want to have the choice to have that wonderful easy to use straight forward black bar that had all the things i use in every net session. My choice and that of so many just like me that like to keep it simple, is to have that awesomely convenient little black bar at the top for our computers. I don't use my phone as a computer so I don't care what it looks like on a phone. Bring back the black bar or at least get us the choice to use it or not. Just sign me as "The voice of millions!"
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Emily Knight||10/12/13 7:26 PM|
Or at least give the option to customize which apps we can access directly from the home page?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Rick Gilman||10/13/13 12:46 AM|
Your new homepage SUCKS. Bring back the old one.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Rick Gilman||10/13/13 12:50 AM|
I couldn't agree more. Bring back the black! Kill the waffle.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||the compose "experience"||10/13/13 3:02 AM|
On Sunday, October 13, 2013 3:50:35 PM UTC+8, Rick Gilman wrote:
"Kill The Waffle", This must be the new catch phrase everyone!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Святослав Черкасов||10/13/13 5:54 AM|
The new design is uncomfortable!! I'm used to get to lots of services by 1 click on the black bar, but now it needs 2 clicks!
I'm not talking about design, I'm talking about user experience!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Max Izrin||10/13/13 6:16 AM|
I like the design, but I find it irritating to access various services, like google translate.
Perhaps if the order of apps and services could be customized (at least for G+ members) that would make for a much better UI.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Alter Falter!||10/13/13 8:07 AM|
If you use Chrome, try the App Launcher. You can add, organize and remove apps with it.
Am Sonntag, 13. Oktober 2013 15:16:09 UTC+2 schrieb Max Izrin:
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||James Griffing||10/13/13 10:03 AM|
I wish google would just bring back the black bar. I don't want to have to use/make these work arounds to bring it back.. Google's really been disappointing me lately.
I'm working on my next update for my userscript ( http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/179402 ). I've got a preview for some of the options. I'd like some feedback on it so far, maybe even suggestions on more options to add. Currently 2 color presets, but I'll add quite a few more.. I'm only posting this here because many of you requested some of these options... Google's not doing it, so I might as well try to get y'all what you want
note: I'll style the setting pop-up after I make all the options, and the "settings" link will no be on the bar, it'll be moved.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||One13Truck||10/13/13 10:26 AM|
Looks good so far. For me personally I like the black bar so I'm not going to be changing the colors. But it's a nice option for those that didn't like the way it sticks out in black.
If we can do the customizing will be fantastic when it's ready since that was my biggest issue with the current style. I don't use most of those so I'd probably wipe out most of those and just return it back to what the black bar had previously. All I really need is what the black bar had before it was removed by Google without bothering to see if we wanted it (Search, Images, Maps, YouTube, GMail). All of the rest I don't usually need/use so I'd probably not want to have on the bar.
It's great work and nice to give the options though. If you can do this why can't Google see their errors and do this as well? Makes no sense.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Pir||10/13/13 12:41 PM|
The new apps grid concept has two flaws. One, it adds extra clicks and unnecessary large icons. Secondly, it's located on the far right end of the screen, and for someone with large widescreen monitors, this means a long travel time on top of the extra clicks for something that used to be a quick wrist-flick away and only needed a single click to access.
I feel like this change is less about making the user experience better and more about trying to have as few things as possible on the homepage because some programmer or manager has a fetish for empty space. Next you'll be making the search field and search buttons hidden until the logo is moused-over. That would be awful but I wouldn't put it past you.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Pablo Zepeda||10/13/13 4:43 PM|
Thank you so much for the style is nice thanks
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||jar stan||10/13/13 9:15 PM|
I agree, here is my 2 cents. Simplicity in function goes a long way when efficiency is paramount, pretty and cool designs are for a dead end user or portfolio site. not a major search engine. in tech specs that takes away from optimization if you running lots of plugins and such.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||kevhatch||10/14/13 3:00 AM|
OK - I installed the script (and I have GreaseMonkey installed) - the App box has disappeared but I still don't have the black bar - what am I doing wrong? Running Cometbird and Palemoon browsers.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||the compose "experience"||10/14/13 3:29 AM|
Greasemonkey solution never worked for me as well. I installed Stylish and the google-black-nav-bar-returns script. Just remember to disable the Greasemonkey script you just installed otherwise there will be a conflict.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Pir||10/14/13 4:18 AM|
How can I get this solution to work in Chrome?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||beach_defender||10/14/13 9:46 PM|
I spent about half an hour going through the response to your announcement. The vast majority, and I mean nearly every one, said that this change is not useful, not user friendly and highly undesirable.
When will Google allow loyal Google users to get the interface we want and not force sub-standard alternatives onto us?
You need to admit that this was a bad idea and go back, or, we can assume that you are no different to most IT suppliers and could give a damn what your user community thinks.
This is not a good look for Google.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Peter Bart||10/15/13 1:22 AM|
I agree with this, and the same applies to having to make an extra click to go to my email address dropdown in order to log out!
Google please note!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||T. G.||10/15/13 1:44 AM|
The new design is a complete FAIL! Why does Google think it's easier to click 2 or 3 times to get to an application rather than the direct access I used to have using the black bar!? I really cannot understand why UI Designers would do that. It doesn't even make ergonomic sense.
The minimum should be to give at least the option to choose whatever design users want.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||aKry8||10/15/13 3:03 AM|
I'm not happy at all with this new design.
Let's see one example. Recently I had to make (1) one look to the texts on the bar and (2) one click to reach the Google Translate.
Now to reach the Translate I have to (1) find a tiny squares at the corner of my big screen, (2) click on it, (3) stare to the big icons I don't want to remember, search and don't find the app, (4) click to «more» link, (5) finally find the «Translate», (6) click on it. And (7*) after clicking and opening the Translate page I have to type the text I want to translate — even if I have typed it before in the web search field. All of it on a screen big enough for all of the the Google services.
6-7 steps + extra typing instead of 2! Tell me how it helps me focus on the products experience. I wrote JS add-on to return the previous links behavior but users should not be needed to correct the Google issues.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||SFT||10/15/13 10:49 PM|
I agree with the strong consensus here. Users should have a customizable bar for the products we use most. Listen to us.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Jim McJibbers||10/16/13 8:33 AM|
It seems that recently every google update has been against what the users want. It was almost perfect before with the black bar across the top, please give the option to use that instead.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Dmitry Yudin||10/16/13 12:38 PM|
It would be highly appreciated if there would be an option to turn on old interface.
I understand that there are people who like big icons - but i dont have that much time. I need to open all stuff quickly - not using lot of clicks.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Ivan Nieves||10/16/13 1:10 PM|
So, how has Google's Mystery Meat Navigation experiment been going?
Since my original question is buried in page 10 of this discussion, I thought I would try again:
I want to prevent this from occurring at all, or especially mid-semester, at my school's domain. Any word on this timeline?
Mystery meat navigation (also known as MMN) is a disparaging term coined in 1998 by Vincent Flanders, author and designer of the website Web Pages That Suck, to describe a visually attractive but inefficient, confusing, or abstruse user interface, usually internet-based. Such interfaces lack a user-centered design, emphasizing aesthetic appearance, white space, and the concealment of relevant information over basic practicality and functionality.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Seitenmeister||10/16/13 8:06 PM|
hi Ivan Nieves,
this is no experiment, this is is next version.
the decision was made, allready rolling out across all languages and products.
and it's done when it's done.
then Google will construct something new, i'm hoping for something where we can choose the order.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Seitenmeister||10/16/13 8:09 PM|
and btw. what's "your school domain"?
i can't follow, it relates to google-products
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Mike Raben||10/17/13 9:57 AM|
Can't stand the new design. I have to work with Google on a daily basis, now everything takes longer
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Parody||10/17/13 11:07 AM|
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 10:09:57 PM UTC-5, Seitenmeister wrote:
He's using Google Apps for Education. (See his post on page 10 of this topic.)
I'm not a huge fan of the hidden nav grid either. However, I don't do that much jumping between Google services, so I tend to type (whatever).google.com into the address bar. :)
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||rdmiller89||10/17/13 11:43 AM|
I do not like the apps button. I want the black bar back and would like to be able to configure the shortcuts and how they are ordered.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Patrick Coppens||10/17/13 6:02 PM|
This new google task bar and search bar sucks!!
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Russ Leikis||10/17/13 6:59 PM|
Thanks, I love any UX design that increases the number of clicks to perform an action while simultaneously obscuring features.
Wasted 45 minutes today trying to figure out what happened.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Seitenmeister||10/17/13 8:09 PM|
next time please avoid FUCKING SWEARING AND UPPERCASE.
in the top you'll find a little person on a button, there can you change your email settings.
and in each mail is a link at the bottom.
@Parody thanks for the info. i still don't understand why his "school domain" should be involved in this. but that shouldn't bother anyone.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||GCS 2013||10/17/13 9:52 PM|
About the Google Navigation, for users that do have a google account allow them to customize the navigation once they log in. They could bring back the black bar too, but the option to let the users pick and customize the navigation they want would be very good as well.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Dr T Mahendar||10/18/13 5:17 AM|
I think this is not user friendly option. now a days google doing away from user friendly options. so pl.PROVIDE PREVIOUS GOOGLE BAR.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Daniel Geller||10/18/13 8:01 AM|
Old google layout sucked less. New google layout sucks more by making people click twice to access common links such as maps and news. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Really, don't you guys have better things to do with your time? In any case, could you please not waste other people's time by "simplifying" things! Or at least give people an option to go back to the old version.
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Seitenmeister||10/18/13 8:44 AM|
there is a misconfiguration on your site i bet.
because otherwise there where more complaints about that. and in my account it works all fine.
i get my mails from the forums and questions i want to and no one more.
have u accidently used another account which forwards all receiving mails?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Bostyan||10/18/13 10:51 AM|
Below name Introducing the new Google bar you have options...
Or on every email you got this to:
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Bostyan||10/18/13 11:08 AM|
On my account works OK. I have 3 gmails accounts. Old account redirect all email on new accoutn/gmail and 3 is for my page I don´t have any problems with email or groups!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||cwoodsartist||10/20/13 7:06 AM|
The last time I was this frustrated on the computer was when Apple thought it was a good idea to get rid of "save as..."
What I don't understand is why you, Google, have foisted this upon billions of us and given us no choice but to deal with an inferior product before it has been refined, with all the usability issues worked out in beta. Who decided this was ready for prime time??
Why is there no option to use the older version that actually worked very nicely?
1) When I hit the back button now, to get to the previous page (in Firefox), it either goes TWO pages back, or to a blank white page. In order for me to actually get to the previous page I have to hold down the back arrow and select the page from the drop down list. Ridiculous!
2) Where is advanced search?
3) Now it takes an EXTRA click to get to any app - this is streamlined efficiency?
4) From what I read, I'm supposed to be seeing the 'gear' in the upper right, and a drop down arrow to the right of the Google logo. Not there.
My only hope is that Google can take a giant step back, take an honest look at the forest, and have the humility to admit that the trees they planted, which they thought were beautiful, are falling down.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ronna||10/20/13 8:57 AM|
Good catch, @cwoodartist. I hadn't noticed the "advanced search" was missing as well as the gears to send feedback.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Seitenmeister||10/20/13 11:06 AM|
1) that seem to be a firefoxproblem caused by different add-ons
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ronna||10/20/13 11:31 AM|
@cwoodartist - I found the Advanced settings as well as feedback for the Google search page, at least on my computer, using FF.
at the lower right corner you'll see settings. Click that, and you'll find Advanced Search as well as Feedback (and search settings, web history and search help).
Google just seems to be enjoying moving things around these days.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ronna||10/20/13 11:33 AM|
oh and hey, once you find Advanced Search (at bottom of Google Search page), if you go to the bottom and click the blue "Advanced Search" button without entering anything, the Black Bar comes back. ha.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Oregonbob||10/20/13 11:53 AM|
Yes, works for me too and reminds me how much I want it back! Google will never, ever admit they goofed. I think the new one is for touch-screens, iPads, etc.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||kevhatch||10/20/13 12:05 PM|
Yes that works ronna ,however, I have to do that procedure every time I go to my home page .... sort of defeats the object!!!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Oregonbob||10/20/13 12:11 PM|
I just copied the link address for the old style and put it in my link bar, then I also went into settings and made it my default page. It worked. I am using Chrome.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Oregonbob||10/20/13 12:26 PM|
I tried to shorten the link to old style here is how far I got that works for me
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||cwoodsartist||10/20/13 2:44 PM|
Thanks for replying, Seitenmeister.
1) You may be right.
2) So, to now get to advanced search, you have to first do a regular search in order to get the gear so you can do an advanced search?? Or save www.google.com/advanced_search in bookmarks and search for THAT? You do see the absurdity, right? That this is a step backward?
A search results page has the nav bar at the top that everyone is saying they want backp - web, images, maps, etc., and the gear to the right - as it was on the old home page, except not black. Keep it white for a slicker look, and you've got a functional, rational home page.
I might have to create a Google home page from a search results page, say on 'oxkd9yjgr87' to get 0 results, and save that to get the old nav bar back.
Of the 6 things Google has decided billions of us would want on the new nav bar, I actually only use Images and Apps, nothing else, ever. I don't need to see my picture, either. This is also what people are saying they don't like, being forced to live with
3) What do you mean, no? It DOES take an extra click now to get to Apps. You have to first click on the Apps icon and then go from there. Getting to Scholar, for example, which I use all the time, now takes an extra click, whereas before I clicked on 'more' from the nav bar.
I use bookmarks for websites, not to to be cluttered with Google search options.
4) That's OK. Somewhat covered in 2.
Is anyone in Googleland who has a say in the matter actually reading these comments?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||cwoodsartist||10/20/13 2:48 PM|
thanks, ronna! i missed that.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||cwoodsartist||10/20/13 2:52 PM|
ronna, that is BRILLIANT!! I'm going to save THAT as my home page! Foiled again, Goodle!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Seitenmeister||10/20/13 8:58 PM|
>> this is streamlined efficiency?
no, followed by the "official" reasons i was told.
probably not. but they will definitely receive a summary of the feedback from the community managers who read everything.
most if these things are own products or websites and no search options, from my point of view. search options are these:
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||James Grimshaw 1||10/21/13 3:47 AM|
Good hack, confirmed working for me
then save as a link in your favourite bar
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||cwoodsartist||10/21/13 4:55 AM|
OK, Seitenmeister. Scholar I actually did put on my bookmarks toolbar a long time ago. Are you a community manager?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Seitenmeister||10/21/13 10:14 AM|
no i am not a CM. they are marked by a Google Employee Badge next to their name.
and this announcement (see page 1) is started by one of them.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Michelle D Macari||10/22/13 3:45 PM|
As with everyone here I am so irritated I may just delete Chrome off my computer altogether. I am tired of things being changed without giving the actual users options. And like most here, I found this thread because I have spent the better part of my day looking for an answer to which it seems there is none.
What's the point of the search bar if everything ends up in the omnibox? If I am typing in the search bar, that is where i want my text to be. I do not like using the omnibox and would like to know how to use the good old fashioned search bar.
I want an option to go back the way it was. I noticed the change yesterday when I started typing in the search bar (not the omni box) and was like where the hell did my question go?
I will give google a chance to fix this, but I don't think they will. I think this is a case of they know what's best for us and screw our POV's.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||d casey||10/22/13 11:20 PM|
For Firefox users installing Greasemonkey w/this (THANK YOU James Griffing) http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/179402 has made a huge diff for me
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||deeper||10/23/13 12:59 AM|
Here is a simple instruction to get the black navigation bar back to use.
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||James Griffing||10/23/13 5:38 AM|
You're welcome Deeper, Thanks for sharing!
Just to extend your comment, it also works on Google Chrome, Maxthon, Opera, and Firefox. The links to the add-ons required are on the script homepage.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Seitenmeister||10/23/13 8:44 AM|
hi Michelle D Macari,
i think you haven't found the right discussion yet, here is this:
and on google.com you still have a field to enter your searchphrase.
to me it sounds like you are using the "new-tab" on Google Chrome, where it looks like there is a field but when you start typing it all ends in the omnibox.
the results shouldn't be different by the way, but that depends on the Chrome configuration.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||mrnapolean1||10/23/13 1:11 PM|
It does not work on gmail.com
I keep getting a solid white bar across the top.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Talitha Fraser||10/24/13 5:01 PM|
I'll add my vote. I much preferred single click access to my calendar and maps which I use almost daily. Please don't try and tell me what is more "efficient" for me. I think I know.
An option to customise would be great - I never use Google+ or Notifications so I do not understand why these are given priority.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ScottNumberOne||10/24/13 8:04 PM|
Thank you for this post. At present this seems to work. Google.com/#1 I'd rather have the bar visible as I toggle between apps like News Youtube Search and Maps. Much better than some tiny square dots in the upper right hand corner that boast of the "New way". Hows this way?
A European Parliament committee this week backed draft rules intended to toughen a 1995 privacy-protection law and impose penalties on domestic and foreign companies that violate it. The proposal would require companies such as Mountain View, California-based Google Inc. (GOOG) to let users fully erase their personal data and subject violators to fines of as much as the greater of 100 million euros ($138 million) or 5 percent of annual sales for violations.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Seitenmeister||10/24/13 9:34 PM|
On Thursday, October 24, 2013 8:04:04 PM UTC-7, ScottNumberOne wrote:
p.s.: and as a european citizen i can tell you, these committees are pretty lame.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||jessroy||10/25/13 5:33 AM|
I miss the bar, at least give me a way to customize my top bar, so I can put the few links I use most where I need them. (Drive, Gmail, Maps)
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Aaron Babcock||10/25/13 6:17 AM|
Dear Google - with your new search page interface you've made the same ill-advised decision that Microsoft made with Windows 8: you've sacrificed functionality for a cleaner, simpler aesthetic. Your new search interface looks better - so what? The new tab interface is an annoyance. It's not easier to use, it's not more convenient to use. You've added time wasting extra steps to reach things I use that used to take far less time to access.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Michelle D Macari||10/25/13 7:56 AM|
The New Tab Redirect option solved my problem but I am not sure if it is what you were needing. Either way it is in the Chrome store under that exact name. And it is pretty easy. If I can do it anyone can. Hope this helps at least some of you.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Dean Kerrigan||10/25/13 9:25 AM|
My suggestion on Google UX going forward is *stop adding extra clicks for commonly used tasks* (also see- Google image search)
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||fujak||10/25/13 1:26 PM|
you know it wouldn't be half as bad if you'd left it on the left hand side of the screen where all browsers tabs are situated...
very poor idea...
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||skpider||10/26/13 1:48 AM|
Bring the old look back or improve the current one.
The new one, in the way it is, makes things harder to access which is creating frustration among users.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||fujak||10/26/13 2:22 AM|
thanks..... i have tried it and it seems to work so far though i'm sure they will try to keep forcing me back to the new version.... have bookmarked the homepage to make it easier to bypass their changes....
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||sudoplatov||10/27/13 2:13 AM|
The new interface is much less efficient than the previous one. What is the point in hiding Google's services?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Rick He||10/27/13 11:27 AM|
I have a number of browsers installed but chrome was my favorite and the one I always used because of that bar across the top. Now I don't like chrome anymore. Please bring that bar back! At least make it an option. Can it be an extension?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Bostyan||10/27/13 11:36 AM|
All browsers have Google Bar Firefox, Opera, Chrome etc. Bar is on Google pages not on Browsers.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||rogernxs||10/27/13 3:51 PM|
Ok, absolutely brilliant get rid of a useful tool for a month (probably 3) THEN put in a new link bar and laud what great work you have done to add a new and wonderful improvement.
New color, position and lets make it 3 clicks to access.(Burried in the 'Apps' button.
Why o why is there a 'MORE' button when there is space.
You say you want to keep it simple but you continually throw in complications when its NOT simplifying anything. Whitespace is nice but 'MORE' is evil.
Yahoo are guilty of this... so don't be a followed be a trend setter.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Maikel Warmerdam||10/28/13 7:45 AM|
Please put it back as it was
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Oregonbob||10/28/13 8:59 AM|
Maybe Google dumped the top bar because they wanted the space for something more important, banner ads.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Cryian Sky||10/28/13 9:11 AM|
why Google gives lot of shit on search page!!! GOOGLE going wrong why, i wanna start using other search pages, because GOOGLE does sucks now with google search, it gives so many page with scam and viruses that you do not wanna use google anymore!!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Cryian Sky||10/28/13 9:27 AM|
I loved Google long time, i have been using it since i started using internet. But i stooped like it since they tuck over the YouTube. They f***ed up YouTube complete!!! And now they f*****g Google search same why, till people will run away from them! Im in the search of better video site to replace YouTube and now im in the search of new and better search page...
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Steve Blacker||10/28/13 10:32 AM|
Redesigning something so that it takes two clicks rather than one to achieve the same result is bad GUI design, plain and simple.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Aubty||10/29/13 6:50 AM|
I'm disappointed. The apps launcher just means an additional 'click' opposed to when I had the various options listed right on the top of the page. Honestly, one of the reasons I was an early user of chrome was for its ease of use. Chrome seemed to focus on the user first. Don't 'over engineer' like microsoft.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||CigarRolled||10/29/13 10:41 AM|
my workflow has always been:
Search and then choose my Google site.
Ex. type street address into quick search bar > click maps
This new system is very inconvenient not only in the double click but being way off to the right on a large window is a lot of mouse movement.
Please bring back the black bar or fix this issue
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||as22222||10/30/13 2:03 AM|
I dislike to click three buttons instead of one many times. To get to translate I have to click on the tic-tac-toe,more and then to translate,maybe thirty times within a short work session. I had to download and use Big G Black Bar extension. Google should give the users to opt-in or opt-out and enable customization of some products. Then it will be to each his/her own and nobody would complain.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Emilia Gordon||10/30/13 2:04 AM|
the new google format in google mail sucks I hate it
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Steven74||10/31/13 7:55 AM|
As it was posted a few pages back...... just make this your home page https://www.google.com/webhp?as_qdr=all&as_occt=any and you will have the black bar at the top again. That is if you want to keep using Google. I have a few users that refuse to switch, so this works until Google finally realizes this new page isn't streamlined nor user friendly. I am sure it works great with touchpads, but they forget about the 95% of users that still use a regular PC at work.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||wthplz||10/31/13 11:40 AM|
If you want your precious black bar, use an older browser, such as Internet Explorer 8. I get the old logo, the grid, and the black bar.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||peyman Mohamad||10/31/13 8:28 PM|
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||frozstee||11/1/13 5:15 AM|
Consider me leaving for a new search engine and maybe even new email service. The new forced style looks like an amateur designer threw up on my home screen. Wonder how many complaints Google will have to get before they actually get their act together and release something at least decent. This new look doesn't even deserve a failing grade, its that horrible.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||slick1||11/1/13 6:26 AM|
Hate the stupid BLANK page!
Could had the same blank page with old page if that had been what I wanted!
Why couldn't we had the same option as before IF we wanted a blank page.
Hate the stupid apps for 95% are useless.
Why does it tell me to install Chrome... I already have Chrome but like Firefox 100% better.
Besides Chrome Is Not ALLOWED ON SOME FORUMS because it overrides the forums SECURITY!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Internet Happens||11/1/13 9:47 AM|
Google is dead….. so very sorry to say. 2013 was the year Google finally died from it's horrible decisions…. Useless.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||eaeapepe||11/1/13 9:30 PM|
Nice one google. Two clicks instead of one...keep screwing your products up...then ask yourself why we switch to other providers.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Simon JB||11/2/13 3:18 AM|
Preferred the previous, see no advantage to this new one. Seems to have done nothing but hide stuff, frustrating/annoying.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||OBIE 1||11/2/13 5:42 AM|
Why would you change the Black Tool Bar???? Now there are additional steps / clicks required. I just don't get it with you people you make changes just to make changes. Just let things that work alone and fix the things that broken and the Black Tool Bar was not broken. Give us users a break and stop changing things.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||bleeding edge luddite||11/2/13 9:27 AM|
Just got hit by this poor R.U.I. (Random Unwanted Improvement) UI infraction today. Add me to the list of unhappy people. I am sure glad my Gerber tool dose not improve it's self. Or my car. This is another fine example of why Google should not be allowed to be involved in a self-driving car.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Kenneth Jeppesen||11/3/13 5:53 AM|
Adding an extra click is NOT a good design decision. PLEASE put it back and never try to fix perfection.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Oregonbob||11/3/13 12:13 PM|
I have found it is not just the extra clicks it now takes. When I click their new little icon it displays that matrix of icons. Then you spend an extra few seconds finding the one you want in the matrix. That extra gets annoying. The black menu bar so so superior I can't believe G did that.
Has anyone ever heard a good reason from Google why they made the change?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Hotconductor||11/3/13 12:27 PM|
This is driving me nuts. I guess they want us to go back to bookmarking all the services in Chrome. That way we don't have to click on the stupid app launcher. It might have something to do with responsive/mobile/tablet integration, but what a terrible design.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Massimo de Cristofaro||11/4/13 3:29 AM|
The only reason I could guess is that this stupid design can help all those big-fingered people that have to navigate with all those stupid tablets, maybe while driving AND smoking...
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Pete Shorney||11/4/13 6:10 AM|
This is pants, now takes two clicks to do what could be done in one .... improvement ... WTF planet r you on!!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Jessica Potter - CDA||11/4/13 6:46 AM|
Bad Idea. First Google hides check spelling and adds an extra click to compose my email. Now, Google hides my black bar with all of the apps and has added an extra click to access calendar, drive, sites, contacts, groups, mapsx2 (hiding under more). Google, please stop hiding things and adding clicks for users.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Angela Wilson||11/4/13 8:03 AM|
Brilliant! I too added Drive to my bookmark bar to make it one click away. I also edited it's name--actually I deleted its entire description--so that all that appears is the DRIVE icon.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Angela Wilson||11/4/13 8:09 AM|
You can create folders on your bookmark bar. Also, to save space you can edit the bookmark name and in some cases delete its description entirely so all you are left with is the icon
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||as22222||11/4/13 11:54 AM|
I think Google is showing how not to do it right way. I'll try Yahoo and hey, I see they have a black bar up there.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Cynthia Duff||11/4/13 12:07 PM|
I agree. I love the black toolbar. PLEASE GIVE US AN OPTION. I am now forced to put Drive, Calendar and Mail up in my bookmarks bar and it eats up space on the bar. The new bar is an extra keystroke and highly annoying. PLEASE BRING back the pretty black bar.!!!!!!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Sarah Ingraham||11/4/13 1:15 PM|
Yeah so I customized that black bar, with all the relevant links I need for work. and now it just disappeared. I am not happy with this at all.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Pepino McLoli||11/4/13 1:33 PM|
Add me to the list of people extremely annoyed by this stupid change.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Matt Drobel||11/4/13 4:52 PM|
Google - stop making changes and calling it 'simplifying'. The black toolbar was just what I wanted. This new grid stupidity I have to click on and then click again or scroll first and then click again is insanely annoying and does anything but simplify things. I'd love to see your usability test results. Who did you use? The team that came up with this idea? Seriously annoying and terrible user interface.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Michelle D Macari||11/4/13 5:09 PM|
I am sure I am not alone in hoping Google will listen to its users and try to accommodate the majority of us who use it above all others and like me, for work. When it comes down to making things "annoying" we don't want to use it and can easily make something else our default browser.
You see, it is not more difficult to use, but definitely annoying having to get to stuff in a "round about way".
If you are trying to please the ipad users and other new devices, maybe you should think about creating an App for those users, instead of shoving those who have used you loyally aside like we are nothing.
On Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:38:55 PM UTC-6, nealeigh wrote:
> Today, we are unveiling the updated Google bar. In the next few weeks we will roll out the new, streamlined design across all Google products.
> Why this design?
> This simpler design lets you focus on your in product experience but switch to other Google products when you need to.
> How do I switch to another Google product?
> To open a new product, click on the Apps launcher icon and you’ll see a list of other Google applications.
> How can I learn more?
> Check out this article from our Accounts help center and this post from our Inside Search blog.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Michelle D Macari||11/4/13 5:09 PM|
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Ben Misener [DHC]||11/5/13 5:55 AM|
Agreed. Bring back the black quick launch bar. Your "simplified" changes are unproductive for Apps customers. Ridiculous.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||cbsarge||11/5/13 8:57 AM|
In response to some of our users at my place of business (we use Google Apps for Business) not liking the new interface I created this small Chrome extension. It adds a black bar above the search field on many of the Google pages with all the shortcuts from the old interface. You also have access to the same shortcuts when clicking on the icon it places in top of the browser.
It's free so you know you'll at least get your money's worth if you decide to try it! :-)
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Kurt Panzer Meyer||11/5/13 9:13 AM|
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Robin McCarty||11/5/13 10:26 AM|
Is there a way to restore the simple black menu bar??
This new method requires 2 navigations, and 2 clicks, AND, it's not an at-a-glade visual. I *HATE* the new user interface. I'm hoping there is an optional setting I can choose to restore the menu bar to the simpler setting (please oh please oh PLEASE!)
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||cbsarge||11/5/13 10:35 AM|
There is no way to turn the old version back on. Try this free Chrome extension. It's at least close:
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Ian Curry||11/6/13 2:53 AM|
I used to be able to load the apps I need with one click, it now takes a click, a mouse move and then another click.
THIS IS NOT AN IMPROVEMENT
Please add the ability to revert to the last bar and/or the ability to customise the new one with one-click app launch buttons.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Ian Curry||11/6/13 2:58 AM|
cbsarge just wanted to thank you for this. A great workaround until Google start to listen.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||D.Wheater||11/6/13 3:19 AM|
Taken something simple that just works and "Fixed" it by making it more complected. Not Impressed. Please can we have the old black bar back?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Katie Hunt||11/6/13 5:43 AM|
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Evie R||11/6/13 7:22 AM|
Can you please post a link so people won't have to search through hundreds of messages to see your post regarding this topic?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Ellen Crissey||11/6/13 10:02 AM|
I use Gmail for work and the new grid format is terrible. It's an extra click everytime I move back and forth between applications. Please reverse this change.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||cbsarge||11/6/13 10:12 AM|
Try this free Chrome extension. It's at least close and uses VERY little memory:
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Ben Palumbo||11/6/13 10:32 AM|
I want my bar back. It causes me to lose focus and grind my teeth at Google.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||jeannecp||11/6/13 10:55 AM|
My preference is to have it revert back to the original layout. The long
bar across the top gave easy access to users.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Oregonbob||11/6/13 11:01 AM|
I agree jeannecp. An extension is just not the same as the real thing. From the first time I used the black bar I was pleased and amazed how convenient that worked.
Google: you goofed!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Sherfraz||11/6/13 12:41 PM|
Like many others I find the new design more time consuming than the old black bar. Not only do I have to click twice now to accomplish the same thing as before but I also have to retype whatever I typed in Google when I get to the other "app". Before if you typed something in the search box on the homepage then clicked on anything else like Images, Maps or YouTube, when it went to that page your search text was automatically there. I often want to search things in multiple places like web first then maps. Now it just takes longer. Bad move.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ewest305||11/6/13 2:07 PM|
I suggest people start lodging their complaints on this blog as it seems to be watched by Google:
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ewest305||11/6/13 2:08 PM|
Better still, found an OFFICIAL Google blog:
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Todd Handler||11/6/13 4:56 PM|
This isn't simply hating change...this is actually hating the new UI. Less convenient, more clicks, and unable to be customized whatsoever. not good, just plain not good
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||rbeede||11/6/13 6:37 PM|
I concur with others that keeping the black bar should have been an option at least on PCs/desktops.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||megatron20000||11/7/13 2:49 AM|
the old disign was better...
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Andrew L.||11/7/13 3:51 AM|
Having to click twice to find the application I'm looking for is poor design. So is untitled boxes that I have to hover over to figure out what the heck they are. Please provide features that enable direct access. Please provide the option to have a word for an icon instead of some indecipherable picture. Reading is far easier than guessing or hovering.
|Introducing the new Google bar||Nancy Rogerson||11/7/13 9:14 AM|
I do not like this new Google...has my account been hacked???? Email notices from some of my credit card, contacts are failing after several attempts,
Have been contacted by mail by a few already...my passwords are not being recognized on some...alot of my important mail is going to Junk mail...
What is going on? Is a terrible inconvenience...please check my account..for problems, security..I am worried and cannot get in touch with you...Talked to one guy,
Who SAID that he was google tech. support...he was not, I found out...please get in touch with me. Nancy Rogerson 919/847/7257
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Ian Hickin||11/8/13 3:25 AM|
You Screwed Up! Put the black Bar Back
What was a single click is now 2 or 3 and even a scroll. Very counter intuitive. Give the option to go back to OLD AND BETTER design!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||storm bringerr||11/8/13 10:23 AM|
how much more irritating crap are you going to add google.....start firing a lot of your think tank employees, they dont live in a real world.nobody wants all thier youtube comments made public. bing is looking better and better
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Kearon McNicol||11/8/13 10:52 AM|
The icon is too subtle - fine for phones, but many of us still use computers with acres of screen real estate at times. We appreciate being able to get quickly to the apps we want, not lots of unobvious clicks.
Second, and more importantly, if you are going to reduce our initial app choice, we need to be able to choose which apps we see first. The ability to be able to personalise our menus is essential - especially for those of us who use google as our main work environment.
fyi - I almost never comment on these things, which shows how frustrated I am this time!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||MML1234||11/8/13 1:36 PM|
You go Ian - completely right - why add more user actions?? This is stupid - bring the old back.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Wyatt23||11/9/13 7:45 AM|
With firefox and greasemonkey, you can use this user script:
This may work on chrome as well with tampermonkey instead of greasemonkey. I never use chrome so I don't have any way to confirm this, but it should work.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||vhoffman1000||11/9/13 5:21 PM|
can we please have the black bar back. i greatly dislike the app thing. i would say that i hate it, but maybe a more calm attitude about it will bring back the black bar
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Josh Bender||11/11/13 12:00 AM|
YOU *DO* have this option.
1st-Go ahead and ditch Chrome before they mess it up as bad as Gmail and their Search Launch Pad.
3rd Install the Extension/Add On
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Josh Bender||11/11/13 12:04 AM|
YOU *DO* have this option.1st-Install Firefox
2nd-Install the Extension/Add On
--Yeah, the "conspiracy nut" in me just perked up. I've tried to post this 3x each time it fails with a "Script Error" (ie why I tried to muddy the name.
The URL is
see if *THIS* will post
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Josh Bender||11/11/13 12:07 AM|
There is an option, apparently Google is blocking from posting (each time I try), it gives a "Script Error" can't post--thus let me "Muddy" it a bit, see if this will work
Install FirefoxPr0per..M3nu..Bar...--it's BACK!
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Josh Bender||11/11/13 12:08 AM|
There is an option, apparently Google is blocking from posting (each time I try), it gives a "Script Error" can't post--thus let me "Muddy" it a bit, see if this will work
see if *THIS* will post
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Josh Bender||11/11/13 12:16 AM|
LAWD! They really don't want me to tell you (I keep getting script error when trying to reply to you). They must have "Key word" blocks in place.
Let me try *THIS* trick, see if it makes it past the filter. *grin*
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||MyDogIsSmarterThanMe||11/11/13 12:25 AM|
LAWD! They really don't want me to tell you (I keep getting script error when trying to reply to you). They must have "Key word" blocks in place.
Let me try *THIS* trick, see if it makes it past the filter. *grin*The other orange logo search tool, has a fix.
Rhymes with the first word of that movie "Far From Home"*AND* fairness to Goog, they kept the other as well. HOW NICE
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||MyDogIsSmarterThanMe||11/11/13 12:27 AM|
Trying to post....see if this work.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Oregonbob||11/11/13 10:13 AM|
It appears that we are not the only ones upset with Google changes 'for the admen'
If you google search back in time, you'll see people screamed bloody murder back when Google introduced the black menu bar we all want. In fact there were viral blogs showing, "How to get rid of the terrible black menu bar".
Do you think for a second G cares?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||EIDAM89||11/11/13 2:57 PM|
Please provide the option to revert back to the original Black Bar. Every Google user I know has complained about this new interface, thank you.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Sagarwal10122||11/12/13 12:54 AM|
I find it cumbersome to click on the Apps icon and then find the app I was looking for, scroll my mouse over to that app, and then click on it. Therefore 2 clicks rather than one plus wasting time scrolling my mouse. I think this is some Microsoft Trojan Horse who has made the decision to take away the black bar at the top with the common apps. I think the black bar was a brilliant idea to increase productivity while the new 9-square "cube" version is time-wasting and irritating and very un-Googley.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Sagarwal10122||11/12/13 12:58 AM|
I wish Google was more sensitive about this. You give us a Tesla (aka the Black Bar) and then take it away and give us a broken down car!! We want the black bar back.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Andrea J||11/12/13 9:01 AM|
And now I can't get to the apps I want (installed from marketplace) without clicking, scrolling through a crap load of apps i DON'T want, and clicking again. How much does that suck?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Cluedo||11/12/13 10:30 AM|
Google, please give us opt-in notices in the future. Stop forcing us to see things you way. More importantly, give us the option to bring back the black bar.
This new "streamlined" design is inefficient and unnecessary. I now have to make two steps just to open up mail or contacts when it used to only take one. Who approved this? Stop making things harder!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||The Normal Man||11/12/13 12:44 PM|
Just chiming in on the hate for the new design. More clicks = more carpel tunnel. Menu tabs was better. Must be a tablet thing. I hate those things. Funny how y'all big tech companies get this stuff wrong time and time again. MS, Yahoo, and you all allow graphic designers to run the show for the tablet crowd. We get "cleaner" looking stuff that works worse. Welcome to the future.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||tobelerone||11/14/13 1:57 AM|
Aaaaagghhhhhh! Give me back the toolbar - it's driving me up the wall.
I've given it the benefit of the doubt - but I use Google every minute of the day and spend a lot of time switching between calendar, mail , drive, search , maps.
You should at least give the option to users to revert to the old toolbar if required.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Don DAngelo||11/14/13 10:41 AM|
Its been said already, but it needs to be said until you bring back the efficient toolbar that I was quite happy with. Who in your dev groups think it's a great idea to change things on a whim? How many times does a change need to occur that upsets a large percentage of your user base, before technology companies realize that maybe, just maybe, giving the option for the old is best practice!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||BinaryTool||11/14/13 4:42 PM|
And now these half-baked pricks are censoring responses. Nicely done, Gurgle
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Oregonbob||11/14/13 5:37 PM|
That is shocking that Google has started censoring, even worse deleting posts completely. Now I don't know what's been deleted. I am serious...that is shocking.
Moderator: could you point to information about what you will delete?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||bluequoll||11/14/13 6:37 PM|
BinaryTool & Oregonbob:
I don't know what censoring you're talking about, but if posts have been removed by Google it would only be because they were in contravention of the Forum Posting Guidelines.
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||olinda58||11/15/13 12:27 AM|
I agree with Tobelerone: I want the black bar back
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Evie R||11/15/13 5:48 AM|
For what it's worth, I also noticed that they were deleting people's responses.
If you go to the new and unimproved home page, you will see "Settings" in the bottom right corner of your screen. Click on that and a pop-up menu appears. The bottom choice is "Send Feedback".
Hopefully, after enough people contact them, they will rethink their "cool" new idea. Personally, I can't fathom why they thought this would be met with open arms. (I'm also miffed they discontinued iGoogle!)
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||tobelerone||11/15/13 8:14 AM|
Ah ha, another iGoogle user. Yes I was a bit annoyed about that as well!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Maril Acob||11/15/13 6:41 PM|
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||jiminwatford||11/17/13 5:54 AM|
Please allow us to choose the icons on the homepage
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||skylinden||11/17/13 6:35 AM|
The new apps grid thingy on Google homepage is like a mobile phone with a fixed home screen! Who would buy a phone that would have icons on home screen which were put there by the phone manufacturer? NO-ONE!
I think there SHOULD be a way to rearrange the icons but it looks like there is not. The way the grid is now is just ... well, kind of useless, cause now i have to click and scroll the "apps" i use mostly. (ok, lets say now that the old black bar was better and faster)
Like ... I dont need Google search there, or Photos, or Drive, or Play, and I dont use G+ but still its the first app in the grid.
What i DO use everyday, is the Translator and Blogger and now i have to make all that clicking and scrolling to use that.
So PLEASE, do something with this. The way that i is now is like ... well, Microsoft's way to do things :P
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Robert Becker||11/19/13 9:55 AM|
It seems like there is already plenty of negative feedback here, but apparently not enough yet since Google is not responding so I'll add mine.
I hate it. It was fine the way it was, change is good so long as it's an improvement and it's hard to see how this is an improvement. Options are wonderful and I appreciate them.
I don't need Google deciding what is best for me - I already have Microsoft for that (i.e. Windows 8).
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||adioguardi||11/20/13 11:25 AM|
It is less efficient to waste space on my bookmarks bar to access other google apps in one click. Please change it back or have the option to change it back. And also it would be great to be able to customize the apps that show up at the top.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||deeper||11/21/13 3:59 AM|
If you use Google as yoyr homepage and want to use the black bar, then this is the easiest way to get is back, you wont believe how simple it is?!
100% working, I just hope google does not disable it.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||deeper||11/21/13 4:07 AM|
If you are using google as your homepage and want to use the old black navigation bar then this is the easiest way to get it back.
You wont believe how simple it is and it´s 100% working. I just hope google does not disable it.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||deeper||11/21/13 4:08 AM|
Hi!You wont believe how simple it is and it´s 100% working. I just hope google does not disable it somehow.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||skylinden||11/21/13 5:39 AM|
Nice ... but i wouldnt say it works 100%. Maybe 70% ... at least on Firefox. Try this: select text on website, now right click and select "Google search" ... BAM! your black bar is gone.
But thanks :D
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||deeper||11/21/13 7:10 AM|
Yes, and its gone when you go to your email, but the point is, that it´s there when you start your web browser, and when ever you click to your homepage.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Spaski Geldenhuis||11/22/13 6:04 AM|
Bring it back bring it back it is black and it works
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Marcel Cozma||11/24/13 5:14 AM|
How can you be so ignorant about your user's opinion, GOOGLE ?
What could be your stupid reason to act like this ?
If you would be smaller than you are now, you would be left with zero users and bankrupt with this attitude.
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Marcel Cozma||11/24/13 5:17 AM|
Google, why are you so ignorant about your user's opinion !!?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Chris Petts||11/24/13 8:40 AM|
I used to work at Sony Computer Entertainment in London, UK. We used to have a joke saying:
"IF IT AIN'T BROKE, FIX IT 'TIL IT IS!"
This was directed at management and coders who insisted on changing things, without proper discussion, in order to justify their own jobs.
This is exactly what is happening with Google. It's the Microsoft disease, whereby geeks think they're doing good, but really they're simply disappearing up their own existences. Then they write reams of geek-speak on discussion threads that no normal person cares to understand, and gradually the technology slips away from the users and becomes redundant.
For christsakes, pull back from the brink of nonsense and start responding to everyday users. Make Google's toolset available with as little fuss and screen space as possible. The black bar was fine. Now we have to go to www.google.com/#1 to reach it. The search bar works as it should here too, instead of jumping to the top left and NOT WORKING as it does with the new, crap homepage.
Seriously, what are you guys on??? Are you purposely trying to send your users away? REFINE WHAT YOU HAVE - QUIT CHANGING WHAT ALREADY WORKS.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Marcel Cozma||11/25/13 2:05 AM|
Chris, www.google.com/#1 does not work, at least for authenticated users. And for me it works only in a incognito window.
But adding "&noj=1" to the url address of the search results page brings back the black top toolbar until you navigate away. However, the URL hack is by no means a watertight solution. For one, it's only temporary, the navbar is displayed only if you use the parameter.
The biggest annoyance of the lack of black navbar, of course, is that you have to click two times to get anywhere, three times if the product you're looking for is not among the nine Google depicts in the main page of the app launcher.
This did not work for all products, but worked for many. Of course, at the same time, the search term was maintained when switching from the generic "web" search to "images" or "videos" via the search tabs. This still works now.
With the app launcher though, selecting YouTube will just send you to the YouTube or homepage, your search will be lost. This is very annoying to the people that started a video search on Google rather than on YouTube. You could argue that this is what the "video" search option is for, but most people only want to look through YouTube videos.
And even worst for the ones who were used to type a foreign language word in the omnibox(address bar) or search it from the contextual menu(right click) of chrome while reading from a site in a foreign language, and after just simply click translate from the black navbar, now have to copy paste every word or phrase into google translator, using much more click and buttons than before.
You make Google itself look too like it's on drugs.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Chris Petts||11/25/13 2:35 AM|
@Marcel Cozma : I don't know what 'authenticated users' means. I have a bookmarks bar shortcut for www.google.co.uk/#1 which works fine to bring me to google search with the black bar. I'm not running incognito.
The black bar does not require two clicks unless you need something from the 'more' tab, in which case it's two clicks. I'm not sure what you're doing to incur an extra click on these. Whatever, this is a minor issue.
You're right that the App launcher loses any entered search term, and it requires the extra click. This comprises two backward steps. Google dev. geeks obviously have their own special interface that they don't let their public users use.
I'm guessing that this is how things go with corporate organizations that grow beyond manageable size - they lose focus on what made them successful. In this case it would be creating an interface that makes looking for www stuff clean, quick and simple. Google has lost it.
My default homepage has been DuckDuckGo for some time, but I still found myself returning to Google because DDG still hasn't reached full functionality. However, with Google's incredibly retrogressive dev behaviour, all of a sudden DDG has become far more relevant.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Goeul1||11/26/13 11:31 AM|
bring back the links on the homepage please!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Kamal Aziz||11/27/13 4:46 PM|
yes that's right !!! so bad no youtube no translate !!! so fucking bad !
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Gail Stern||11/28/13 5:32 PM|
the left hand side of my screen is supposed to have a little roll out of shortcuts on Edit where you can edit and take shortcuts with favorite double useful apps like gallery or maps or videos moving the little icons out across the page to where you want and its disappeared .its getting scary taking you r advice on updates and you are wrecking my android and giving me an ugly viral headache.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||jo see||11/28/13 8:49 PM|
Google, please give us the option to customize it. Everyone here hates the new one also.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Chris Petts||11/29/13 12:57 AM|
Is the new less-than-useful google homepage a vain attempt at ushering folk into +Google ? Do I need another Facebook? Isn't Twitter, LinkedIn and Facebook enough to satisfy my browsing, searching and sharing needs?
Truth is I will always ignore requests to join 'circles' and have 'hangouts' (I hate that term) because that's not what Google IS. Google is looking for stuff on the WWW and finding the most relevant/interesting/missing information. Google is not a social network in the wider sense.
TBH I wish I wasn't using Gmail because I don't like the way it works with an ongoing conversation. It's clunky.
Google geeks (Geekles?) need to take a step back and look at how everyday folk use their interface, and build from that. Otherwise Google, like Microsoft, will become the big white elephant in the room that won't go away and make room for better, leaner things.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Ross Hendrick||11/29/13 1:30 PM|
So an update which has made things worse. Makes no sense to put all things in the app category. I liked using the toolbar where I could use the same search term in youtube and translate. Now I have to copy it and open the app thing and scroll down to it. Clumsy and frustrating when it was all there at one click.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||W Alexander||11/29/13 11:08 PM|
Went to open g mail earlier today only to find, with no prior notification, that in order to open g mail in the new "all devices" format I had to set up a NEW Google Account when I already had one. No option I could find but to do this. Guess what -- New User Name and New Password. What's worse is any mail sent to or saved in my original account is now GONE. What would happen to those people who have need of these for emergency of medical purposes? This new format OK if you have several devices but there should be the option of retaining original format or at least being able to retrieve g mail in previous account. USER BEWARE!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Seitenmeister||12/1/13 1:15 AM|
hi W Alexander,
there is something wrong, no one has to create a new Gmail.
you should try to connect with your old username and password and everything should be fine.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ImJustOnePerson1||12/1/13 11:33 AM|
https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0&hl=en, i just got the old google back
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Dpaz Yagami||12/2/13 5:55 PM|
Hey bro!! You are amazing!!! Thanks a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||spockdog||12/2/13 7:31 PM|
I'd like that black nav bar back too. Makes no sense to need two clicks when only needed one before. You could just see what you wanted and click it! At least give us an option.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||spockdog||12/2/13 8:02 PM|
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Massimo de Cristofaro||12/3/13 5:55 AM|
Thank you !!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Robert Becker||12/3/13 6:10 AM|
It's interesting how someone(s) from Google has time to read all these comments and censor the ones THEY don't like, yet doesn't care enough about their customers to respond to the topic itself at all.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||spockdog||12/3/13 6:32 AM|
My friends and co-workers thank you too.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||danstro||12/7/13 2:25 PM|
ImJustOnePerson1, Thank you thank you.
I dont know how you found that but thank you.
works like a charm
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Zealot||12/8/13 8:16 AM|
This is to me silly. Why have to click on a box to go to an "app" that was a link on the page... just adds unnecessary steps.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||luis tomasen||12/9/13 5:15 PM|
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||1stew||12/17/13 2:14 PM|
The grid is a wasted click fail.
No one wants it.
Change it back please.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||skylinden||12/17/13 10:55 PM|
The one thing they got rid of after everybody complained about it, was the stupid background image on Google homepage. Did anyone use that? I just tried to find how to set it up now, but couldnt find anything in the settings so maybe they got rid of it.
Nothing lasts forever so maybe this time next year we have something even more annoying ;)
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||José||12/19/13 5:34 PM|
Getting rid of the black navigation bar just sucks! It would be like someone changing the ignition key socket to different places just to say you "improved it". Not very smart and people hate it! Haven't you heard that old saying..."If it ain't broken, well... DON'T FIX IT!" It would like like starting your car from the center of the steering wheel, the left driver side panel or the top of the dashboard! This is just as bad as windows metro user interface.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||KMK2012||12/22/13 7:35 AM|
1) It is NOT simpler design but more cluttered design utilizing more crap that what you would want to have originally
2) Why do you try to "fix" stuff which no one complains about until you "fix" it and then a huge majority will complain....is it your destiny to annoy your customers?
3) If you cannot produce upgrades that actually are less cluttering, less glitzy, less plain stupid except for the bling bling whores out there, please STOP right now. The majority of us want something that stays simple and works fast...not something that gets more crap added to it to bog it down and make it worthless.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Jess Evans||12/27/13 8:09 PM|
i want my black ribbon back...it was not broke you bunch of idiots
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|Introducing the new Google bar||Linda Pryor||1/4/14 3:58 PM|
I pretty much think Google has totally dropped the ball. The new look is terrible and please stop those daily artist renderings. Yuk! The lack of a real homepage with a news feed and gadgets makes the homepage useless. I'm switching to yahoo. Who is in charge? You have taken a huge step backwards!!!!
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Bart Barton||1/7/14 3:50 PM|
This is bullshit. Fuck USA and Shitty Silicon Valley Companies (tm).
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||william angel||1/9/14 7:26 AM|
why can't you just provide a option to disable it! instead you just force people to agree with this change!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||dorde dokanovic||1/10/14 5:43 PM|
Sucks! Annoying and not usefull at all! Please give us a choice of actually turning it off. Simply it sucks!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Oregonbob||1/10/14 8:56 PM|
Yes Google, you goofed and by now you know it. Just so easy to fix: add a menu choice in 'Settings' that gives user a choice to pick from, old menu or new nonsense.
I purchased my first touch-screen laptop and I still hate the new menu. Everyone hates more keystrokes and focus demanded by new menu. Please bring it back. Are you trying hard to herd your loyal fans, and everyone? That would be evil, wouldn't it?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Wyatt23||1/14/14 4:14 PM|
Well, use firefox. At this point it's so similar you won't notice much difference, except that firefox is better.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Reseñas Rodríguez||1/24/14 10:28 AM|
lo odio lo odio lo odio. Me tapa media pantalla. Por que poner dos barras de herramientas si todo cabe en una?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||cobweb79||1/31/14 5:06 AM|
Great news,What do I have to do?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||psmacchia||2/3/14 6:16 AM|
Frankly, 4 months after you rolled out the top black bar, I just hate the way to access the Google service, mostly Translate and Map for me. Very sad you transformed good design into wrong design, without even an option to let the user choose!!!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Muriel Reilly||2/6/14 8:33 PM|
I am elderly. I got used to the old format and liked it. I don't understand how to navigate with the new program. I would like to suggest that you come up with a simple way for us old folks to learn the new program, or let us go back to the old way if we choose to. If I cannot navigate the program, it won't take me long to change to a different provider.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ronna||2/7/14 5:15 AM|
@ Muriel: My father is 81 and adapted pretty quickly when I showed him how to navigate thru the new format. When you open Google search, you should see "your name+" (that's for your Google+ account if you have one), followed by Gmail, followed by Images. Then the "tic-tac-toe" bar, when clicked, has 9 items and if what you need is not listed there, simply click the word "more" at the bottom.
I tried to switch my dad from Internet Explorer to Firefox (because the Firefox browser is "easier" for me) but that was just too hard for him to figure out! In my humble opinion, learning to navigate with the new format would be easier than learning a new provider!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ronna||2/7/14 5:17 AM|
@ Muriel again - sorry, I meant to say "tic-tac-toe" BOX, not BAR. I might also point out these are all shown at the top of the Google Search page, on the right side. Sorry about that!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Evie R||2/7/14 5:54 AM|
Dear Murial and Ronna:
Somebody posted a link a few weeks ago that will take you to the old page. Just set this as your home page!
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||skylinden||2/7/14 5:59 AM|
Just to remind everybody who need the black bar: you can get the black top bar back by setting your home page to this:
Change it to your language Google by replacing the ".com" in the arress.
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||chonyit||2/13/14 10:28 PM|
I like the app button on my task bar, but I do not like being unable to rearrange the apps between pages (as distinct from within a page) Why can't I get the apps I use frequently together on page 1?
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||d casey||2/14/14 5:28 PM|
Because it's Google and they could care less what you think...there are 500 posts on here (mostly) complaining about the change but do you think they care or would offer you a CHOICE??...luckily I'm a Firefox user so the Proper Menubar addon works great for me..God bless the hackers of the world
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||ggagaggaga||2/25/14 4:10 PM|
It's a simple design that lets me focus on having a massive toolbar which I don't need taking up even mroe space on my screen. And why can't I mid click a pic from an image search anymore?
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|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||FlukeLSX||3/25/14 5:13 PM|
In case anyone wanted to know here's how you get your black navigation bar back. Took some searching but it works for me.
Tools ----- internet options ---- https://www.google.com/?noj=1
The trick is: ?noj=1 at the end
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||Unanimus||3/25/14 7:59 PM|
Not any more! Or I could be using the wrong OS. All I can figure out is, on my iPad you can start a search but once you have, the search bar is gone, out of site! The only way to access it to change anything is to focus in to make everything twice as large meaning four times as much effort and time. It's a pain and honestly a waste of time now to even bother with it. Unless they get rid of, make it an option, ha, it's time to move on from Safari or Chrome to Mercury. But, in time.....I would think they would make it adaptable instead of you having to adapt to it. But....
|Re: Introducing the new Google bar||jatinder pal Singh||4/10/14 10:19 AM|
clicking on tab closes it . unable to click menu . curser doesn't go in search bar