|Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||MvPortugal Property||12/17/13 10:05 AM|
I've read the FAQs and searched the help center.
My URL is: http://www.portugalproperty.com
Hi Google Groups...
I hope someone can help me out...After near 2 years of removing links, writing to web masters, using the disavow tool, we have come to the standstill point of:
Unnatural links to your site—impacts links
Google has detected a pattern of unnatural artificial, deceptive, or manipulative links pointing to pages on this site. Some links may be outside of the webmaster’s control, so for this incident we are taking targeted action on the unnatural links instead of on the site’s ranking as a whole...
We lost most of our website traffic 2 years ago, but pushed forward with improving our company & our website to offer our clients the best user experience possible and trying to make changes to appease Google after making a mess of our link profile. Our website is one of the best in our field now & this year we were awarded the Best Real Estate Website in Europe Award at this years International Property awards, yet we still rank poorly in the Google.co.uk organic search engine.
If anyone out there can offer a hand, some help or some useful advise we would be forever grateful. It is the time to be Jolly and I would really appreciate it if someone/anybody can help?? :-)
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||Been wrong before!||12/17/13 10:09 AM|
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||Lysis||12/17/13 11:11 AM|
spike in links with most of the anchor text being "portugal property." Someone's been spamming.
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||MvPortugal Property||12/17/13 4:47 PM|
Thank you for your email, your input is much appreciated :-) when discussing the link sent by Been wrong before! https://ahrefs.com/site-explorer/overview/subdomains/http%253A%252F%252Fwww.portugalproperty.com%252F
Which part do you refer to exactly, which spike? We haven't done any link building as such in near two years. We have only been trying to clean up our link profile.
According to analytics 9,415 links to our website. We have tried and tried to remove links and used the disavow tool several times as well as repeadly writing to web masters to ask them to remove links.
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||Ashley||12/17/13 9:44 PM|
You still have 20K links with a sharp increase in links only recently. Why do you think the links are increasing?
Perhaps you're being too generous with what you've left?
Can you give me some examples of links in your profile that you consider to be natural links that should remain?
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||MvPortugal Property||12/18/13 4:46 AM|
Many thanks for your message.
Links I would class as natural that should remain would be the likes of these here:
National press, from solid companies in the world that recognise our work, etc. Everything else I don't think we need. I suppose we get links from various blogs etc as we have the most comprehensive website of all real estate agents in the country right now so people do write about us or link to various properties on our website, etc.
What links do you think we should keep?
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||MvPortugal Property||12/18/13 4:54 AM|
I can see that 13K links are coming from 3 domains???:
So I will also try to get all of these removed. I have also seen other links appear and I suppose these could be potentially very damaging by the sheer number of links that they are sending, but they have zero to do with our company.
How do you go about finding out who posts these links, or who is spamming us?
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||Corruption Private||12/18/13 5:56 AM|
I think most of them are just ads.
Your itunes link it to a page where the description does not even say what the app is about, but sounds like the start of a business ad. You need to speak with whoever put it there. Probably valid.
The property awards? The list cuts off less then a 3rd of the way to your link. Still, I would say it can be considered a good link.
When you disavow links, do you disavow the individual links or the entire domain?
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||Corruption Private||12/18/13 5:58 AM|
Side issue that may have an impact. If you are using the same ads all over the place, Panda may be hurting you as well.
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||Corruption Private||12/18/13 3:44 PM|
Just thought of something important. The property awards may be considered to be cloaking. If Google thinks it is, you may be hurt as Google will think you are part of a link scheme.
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||MvPortugal Property||12/19/13 3:04 AM|
We disavow the entire domain when we submit the disavow tool. Thank you also for your comment on our App. We have now improved it and submitted it to Apple, so with the next update that should change. Much appreciated :-)
Anything else you think we should be doing to get out of this penalty?
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||MvPortugal Property||12/19/13 3:05 AM|
What do you mean be the same ads all over the place? Ads where?
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||MvPortugal Property||12/19/13 3:15 AM|
These links you mention are from a random blogger (http://macroscopio.blogspot.dk/) it seems who put a link to our homepage in his sidebar "Portugal Property". He is also pointing to Facebook & Googleartproject.com? We have also added this to the disavow, but surely this can't have anything to do with our penalty as this person/s according to ahref's only added this to his blog in December.
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||lpezzini||12/20/13 10:51 AM|
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||Corruption Private||12/20/13 11:41 AM|
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/7485e294-f812-11e1-828f-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2npN5degV Half article and half ad
http://www.linkedin.com/company/portugal-property Basic info you would find given about you in one of your ads
http://propertyawards.net/europe-2013/ Was cloaking.
http://propertyawards.net/europe-2012/ Included due to it's connection with above link
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||Ashley||12/20/13 12:02 PM|
Luis > Start your own thread please.
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||Corruption Private||12/20/13 12:02 PM|
First glance at your site shows me keyword stuffing.
Viewing the page source for the first page shows me even more
Interesting backlinks. A lot have vanished, and the names tell me that they part of a link scheme. Entire groups of names were a clue
In fact, just checked them out even more. I can tell from the coding in those apparently blank pages that you own those sites and they are linking to http://24hourshomevalue.com/ which is gone now.
I must remember to check out your redirect from http://www.sunsetstriprealty.com/ Redirects to site as shifty as yours seems to be always yields something interesting.
Oh, you have a lot of other redirects as well. This was just the first one I came across. Your main site has around 1354 links to it according to Backlink Watch. This was at the very top of the list.
This one has 67080.
To put it bluntly, you seem to have been begging for an algo smackdown. Your actions were not those of someone who was ignorant or misguided like the OP seems to be. Your actions were deliberate attempts to decieve Google on a massive scale. I gave up after looking through around 30 links to your main site and only found your sites or sites that had vanished but whose names indicated they were yours. Do you have any natural links at all?
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||Usearchme||12/20/13 12:44 PM|
You are stuck in the loop of removal and reconsideration like some webmasters.
If you look at hrefs someone has link spammed, if it was you, then undo it, if it wasnt well there isnt much you can do.
it also doesnt show noticeable loss of links on the graph on hrefs which should show when you are emailing webmasters to get rid of unnatural links , so if you are removing links I suggest you do more to get your link count down, to prove that you are getting rid of some of the links, do you understand what i mean ?
Get rid of all your links that are NOT branded links, email owner etc and disavow the ones you cant.
Then posts a reconsideration and see what you get back
When you are removing links what are your removing ?
How many times have you posted reconsideration ?
I also feel your pain and wish you all the best with your site.
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||Marie Haynes||12/21/13 6:51 AM|
Yikes. Two years!
When you get a message saying you failed at reconsideration, is Google giving you example links? Those are usually a good place to start. If they're giving you mostly articles or directory links then you know you've got more of those out there.
By far the most common reason for sites to fail at reconsideration is that there are links that you are calling natural that are not. You've likely addressed these, but just in case it helps, here are some links that would need to go:
http://sclegacy.com/forums/member.php?47776-miladels&tab=activitystream&type=photos&page=1 (unnatural link is under the "about me" tab)
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||MvPortugal Property||1/23/14 12:15 PM|
We have posted about 10 reconsideration attempts. We have removed 1000's of links over the last 2 years. Still we sit in position 70 odd for the term "Portugal Property" for Google.co.uk. :-(
Thank you for your support :-)
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||MvPortugal Property||1/23/14 12:18 PM|
This is Google's most recent message:
We've reviewed the links to your site and we still believe that some of them are outside our quality guidelines.
But we have written to companies like this numerous times to remove the links and added them into the disavow, but we don't seem to be getting anywhere :-(
Many Thanks for your response - Have a great day :-)
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||Ashley||1/23/14 12:24 PM|
10 reconsideration requests. Whoa there, slow down.
That means you're not doing the RR properly. That's way too many.
Do you have a disavow list you can post?
I'm seeing a pretty massive growth in links - not a decline
Looking at the sites that link to you - yes, I think it makes sense you still have a penalty for unnatural links
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||Corruption Private||1/23/14 4:29 PM|
Forum sites like that often have the same flaws SEOwise. If the accounts on them are yours, then you can remove your web address from your signature, and from your account details.
If they are editorial links, they should be fine.
If they are not your accounts and someone is just using your site's web address, notify the forum's owner of this.
|Re: Unnatural links to your site—impacts links - PortugalProperty.com||Marie Haynes||1/23/14 5:54 PM|
OK, so now we know that you have forum profiles that are out there that are unnatural. There could be other links as well, but given that Google has given you two examples that are forum profiles, this is a good place to start.
That's a start, but Google is not looking for you to get some of these links down, they want them all contacted and if you can't get them removed, then added to the disavow (on the domain level).
If you happen to have a list of links that were made for you then you are set. But, if not there are a couple of things you can do:
1. Download your links in ahrefs and majestic and sort by anchor text. Almost anything that is anchored with a keyword is a candidate for an unnatural link
2. Do some creative Google searches. For example, here is a search that I did that turned up a bunch more of this type of link: Search
You've got to do all you can to find all of these. It may seem like Google is being insanely strict, but if you don't remove or disavow all of these then the Penguin algorithm will always affect your site. A manual reviewer can lift the manual penalty, but they can't change the algorithm so you've got to address all of these.