|GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Bogdan Cutar||4/29/13 8:36 AM|
Can anyone tell me why is the GPS always on on the Google Search app that includes Google Now for iOS devices? It drains my battery
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Marcus Baysinger||4/29/13 9:05 AM|
Same problem, except I don't have unlimited data and it also drains my data plan.
For the record, the GPS is always on, even when the app has been closed in the task manager.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||briankeith513||4/29/13 9:08 AM|
Same issue here, major battery drain
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||burms888||4/29/13 9:20 AM|
Same issue here. I turned off the Google Now feature until they get it fixed. Major bummer.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||burms888||4/29/13 9:20 AM|
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Bogdan Cutar||4/29/13 9:23 AM|
Sorry for you Marcus. You should move to Romania. I have an unlimited 3G data plan, and free calls/sms-text within my network, for just 2,48 Euro/month :D
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Julien BISCONDI||4/29/13 10:18 AM|
Same issue. Even after a reboot,GPS is still working.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Nos402||4/29/13 11:01 AM|
Same here. What a bummer.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Rick Garrett||4/29/13 11:12 AM|
No cards ever appear, not even weather. Everything is turned on in settings. So what's the point of this update??
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Tim Greenwaldt||4/29/13 11:50 AM|
Click the settings icon, them privacy and turn off Locstion Reporting. It immediately shuts off. The help for that says it "periodically" sends data to minimize battery drain. It must be a glitch but according to the help screen it has to be left ON for traffic updates and location based reminders to work. I can deal without that most likely till they fix it.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Brett12345||4/29/13 12:59 PM|
Worked for me. Thanks a bunch.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Antony Wu||4/29/13 1:01 PM|
I don't think Google has figured out a way to balance the battery drain and GPS access. Their previous app, Field Trip, is also triggering the same issue, even after the "supposed" bug fix.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Tim Greenwaldt||4/29/13 1:11 PM|
I will try and see how well Now works with it turned off vs on in the coming days. But if you need traffic alerts outside of google maps app just leave that feature on. Otherwise, if all you need is weather, sports, etc, nothing to do with traveling turn it off
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Kousha N.||4/29/13 1:30 PM|
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Tim Greenwaldt||4/29/13 1:39 PM|
Kousha, it's the fact it NEVER shuts off. Not periodically, it's always on. Google now on my Nexus 7 works correctly.
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|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Brett12345||4/29/13 2:35 PM|
As Tim says, it doesn't turn off. It stays on until:
A) You uninstall the app or
B) You turn off Location Services, which defeats the purpose if you want to actually use Google Now.
Your fix makes it work how it should normally.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Tim Greenwaldt||4/29/13 2:39 PM|
Like I said, if you don't need Traffic update, do what I said and it works like it should
|GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Chu Paek||4/29/13 2:40 PM|
Turning google now off for now until they fix the issue
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Brett12345||4/29/13 2:42 PM|
Yeah I did and it works like it should. I'm merely pointing out that it should work like this whether this options is on or off. i could see if it's actively doing something traffic-related by why does it need my location non-stop of I'm just looking through the app or not even using it?
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Tim Greenwaldt||4/29/13 2:49 PM|
Chu, my method still keeps Now usable minus traffic cards
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Chu Paek||4/29/13 2:56 PM|
Thanks for the tip but turning off one of the best feature of the app isn't what I was looking for
Thanks again tho.
Now how the hell do I unsubscribe from replying this thing
I keep getting email from replies now darn it lol
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Tim Greenwaldt||4/29/13 3:01 PM|
I think you un reply in one of the emails.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Nos402||4/29/13 3:01 PM|
There is a link in the bottom of every email to unsubscribe from this topic.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Chu Paek||4/29/13 3:06 PM|
I clicked on every emails I received and just got two more from recent replies lol
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Levi-MDC||4/29/13 3:51 PM|
Checking it periodically should not require location services to be on *constantly*. It should only come on when it actually performs a check. Otherwise, it can be a large battery drain.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Chu Paek||4/29/13 3:59 PM|
I actually had to click from PC to get the unsubscribe option pop up
I was using iphone to get it done and did not get the identical option pop up to unsubscribe
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||rowanangelo||4/29/13 5:55 PM|
Same problem. GPS is ALWAYS on following updating the Google iOS search app. Not "occasionally", as Kousha N says.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Tim Greenwaldt||4/29/13 7:12 PM|
Settings, Privacy, Location Reporting Off.
UPDATE!! Traffic still works with it turned off, it is just slightly inaccurate as it uses the phone GPS location instead of the "always on" google search location service. Boom!
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|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Morac||4/29/13 7:40 PM|
Thanks. I turned off location reporting and the GPS turned off.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Morac||4/29/13 7:44 PM|
There's still a bug in Google Now since according to the help:
"Since Location Reporting has been optimized to use GPS as infrequently as possible, there should be minimal impact on your battery life"
Having the GPS on all the time is the exact opposite of that.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Tim Greenwaldt||4/29/13 7:48 PM|
Morac, glad this worked. It will now function as Google Now should (minus slightly off location). But no biggie
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|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Notemazda Toon||4/30/13 3:49 AM|
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||JimR60517||4/30/13 4:56 AM|
The details on the app download page explain that the icon stays on but GPS is not always active. Also I turned Location Reporting off in the apps settings (not phone settings) and everything still seems to work I get traffic reports and appointments with destination times, everything. I think location Reporting simply reduces update time when you open Google Now and probably should be off by default as it doesn't seem needed. Try it.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||JimR60517||4/30/13 4:58 AM|
Me too, everything still works there's no issues. I think Location Reporting simply improves slightly what Google Now gets you but perhaps should be off by default so as not to use as much battery? I don't see any difference with it off and the location icon is gone!
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Tim Greenwaldt||4/30/13 5:01 AM|
Leaving it on causes the battery to go dead in no time. Hopefully they fix it though so I can turn it back on.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Chris Longhurst||4/30/13 6:53 AM|
It's not occasional - it locks the GPS on permanently and kills the battery in a matter of hours. I can get 2 days use on a charge easily on my iPhone5. With Google Now running, it was dead in 6 hours. Plus - it leaves the GPS running even when you kill the app. You can see this in the location services menu - the arrow is purple - meaning actively using GPS - even after the app is force-killed. It's also a data hog - I don't know exactly what it's doing but it sucked down 30Mb of data in 6 hours yesterday before my phone died. I don't have unlimited data so I can't afford 120Mb/day data drain from an app. Both these issues need addressing before it can be usable on iOS.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Tim Greenwaldt||4/30/13 2:26 PM|
Chris, do what I said and turn OFF Location Reporting in the app under settings-privacy. Google now still has all it's features and functions fine.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Chris Longhurst||4/30/13 3:02 PM|
You say up above that turning this off means it uses the GPS instead of google search - isn't this the other way around? Turning this off disables the GPS and makes it rely on cell towers or something? I didn't know there was a setting in the app itself. I'd been turning off location services in the phone's privacy menu, which renders the app useless (it doesn't work at all if you turn it off that way). Turning it off in the app - the way you say - does disable the GPS arrow in the status bar but now where's it getting location data from?
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Tim Greenwaldt||4/30/13 3:08 PM|
It just uses the standard iPhone location services. Disabling it within the app itself might make certain things like traffic slightly less accurate but at least it's a very doable fix until google fixes the issue.
Leave location services ON for Google Search app in iOS, but turn it off within the app. Settings-privacy- location reporting
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||ayc||4/30/13 11:53 PM|
A lot of you have brought up the location reporting that Google Now uses, and I want to allay some of the concerns you've raised. As Kousha mentioned above, your location is updated periodically throughout the day to provide relevant information. We’ve carefully thought through how best to do this and location is updated only when your device moves a long distance. Additionally, the app doesn’t use GPS. Instead, it receives passive updates from nearby cell towers and WIFI hot spots. These things make the battery impact minimal. We've included a couple pieces of logic to minimize this even further:
If your battery is running low, the app pauses location updates.
The app stays asleep unless your device moves a long distance.
It's also worth noting that the amount of data transferred is very small as well. In fact, performing a search or two every day will use more data than all of the work Google Now does to keep your location up to date.
I hope I've addressed your concerns, but if you still have lingering ones, Kousha's provided you with information on turning off Location reporting.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Matt Kunard||5/1/13 5:58 PM|
Same problem, always on even if the app is closed (force closed from the application switcher) and even after the phone is restarted. This has to be a bug.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||TishTash||5/2/13 7:51 AM|
(but one has to move 2 Romania lol)
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||briankeith513||5/2/13 4:15 PM|
To Kousha and Ayc,
If what you are saying is the truly the case, and I'm not denying this, then why does the location symbol stay in the notification bar, the entire time? No other app in iOS does this without draining the battery. So why would the location be there the entire time, if it is not constantly being used???
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||ayc||5/2/13 7:37 PM|
Totally understand that you're concerned about the seeing the Location Services icon stay on when you use Google Now. You're right that many apps that keep the icon on actually do drain the phone’s battery. This is because they require very accurate location and may rely on GPS and accelerometer information to get that. (For example a navigation app runs your GPS all the time to keep you from missing your turn.) Google Now is built very differently: it uses cell towers and wifi hot spots for much lower battery impact.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Morac||5/2/13 9:37 PM|
I'm not sure what the point of having the app constantly track changes of location in the background in the first place since the app doesn't do any notifications. If I run the app once every few weeks, I don't need it grabbing location data that entire time.
Not to mention that I get a poor cell signal in my office which causes my phone to jump towers, triggering Google to wake up and grab the location. I do have Wifi at work, but the iPhone shuts off Wifi to save battery when not in use. Google keeps waking the phone up, but doesn't reassociate with Wifi which causes what I consider extra drain on the battery by sending data over the much weaker cell signal.
Since the all appears to show me nothing but the weather anyway, which I can get from the notification center, I simply turned off background location reporting.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Chris Longhurst||5/3/13 6:51 AM|
I'm with you. Mine IS running the GPS - the phone is constantly warm on the back whenever Google Now is running (or killed) and my battery life has gone to hell. I can't get half a day out of it now when I was able to get two days before without any problems. Mine did eventually figure out where I live and where I work, but it hasn't notified me of any calendar appointments, it's missed shipping notifications that have arrived in my gmail, and it thinks my commute is 2am for some reason. I've turned it off and uninstalled it until they get all the bugs ironed out.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Matt Kunard||5/3/13 7:44 AM|
"seeing the Location Services icon stay on when you use Google Now".
I still don't think you're understanding the full issue here. Let me throw out this scenario.
1. I install this app, launch it and location services comes on.
2. I decide it's decent but end up not using it for the next 30 days.
3. For the entire 30 days, even after phone restarts, your app is using location services even though I didn't use the app once.
There is no other app I've ever used on iOS that holds on to (and won't ever let go of) location services like this one does.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Tim Greenwaldt||5/3/13 7:57 AM|
SEE MY ORIGINAL POST! If you read the threa you would have realized there I an easy fix with no need to delete the app.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||jupiterjoe||5/3/13 11:28 AM|
I may be incorrect - but I think most people's concern is not so much that the location services turns on when using the Google App - but that location services do not de-activate after manually closing the app on the iPhone. I have no problem with the Location services remaining on while using the App -- However, if I manually close the app then it should no longer require the use of location services. My experience so far shows that Location services remain on - even after closing the app. Please note that by closing the app I mean actually shutting down the app - and not remaining active in background mode... I know there are a lot of people who do not "clean up" their open applications but for those of us that do I think we would like to see location services turned off when the app is shut down. I believe Facebook had a similar issue and they were able to correct this situation. So I am sure there is a solution that would make everyone happy... P.S. I do enjoy the app - so keep up the good work!
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Paul McCabe||5/9/13 12:21 AM|
Works a treat! Thank you!
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Aaron_$||5/16/13 2:21 PM|
I understand that Google Now uses very little additional battery power by not using wifi and cell tower info to actively track your location instead of GPS. I've noticed very little battery life change when having it on. That part I'm fine with.
The part that bothers me most is that the location services icon is constantly on. Because of this, if I use an app that uses my GPS location (and thus quickly drains the battery) such as Google Maps and I switch to another app, I can't tell if the app using GPS is running the background and still using GPS or not because the location services icon is always on due to Google Now.
Since Google Now's location tracking is more similar to a geofence (as used by location based Reminders), I recommend that Google use the Geofence icon (hollow location services arrow) to indicate that location reporting is enabled.
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Matthias Opitz||7/15/13 9:54 AM|
What is low battery to you? Just found it draining my battery to 12% within 5 hours - and still showing the GPS symbol.
I installed Google Now around noon at my workspace and haven't moved around a lot yet - still the app seems to check my location constantly and does NOT stop!
App now deleted!
|Re: GPS issues on Google Now version for iOS||Juergen Nagler||8/4/13 3:02 AM|
Thanks a Tim! Your solution works well for me: "Leave location services ON for Google Search app in iOS, but turn it off within the app. Settings-privacy- location reporting"