Northern Pakistan Places, Photos, 750+ Placemarks!

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Northern Pakistan Places, Photos, 750+ Placemarks! Waqas_ 5/16/06 8:51 PM
Update1.7
* New icons for easy recognition
* Some placemark locations corrected


Did you know that Pakistan is home to 5 peaks above 8000m!!!
4 of which are visible from Concordia!!!

and 108 peaks above 7,000m!!! (from "Pakistan Trekking Guide")



Angel Sar and K2 from Concordia Concordia is at a height of 4700m and K2 tops at 8611m!! And they're 15km apart!!!
(Broad Peak, 8,047 m, is on the right, peak not visible)
A familiar sight, but where is Angel Sar? It's the white snow-covered peak on the left of K2 in the above picture!! Most people have never heard of the Angel Sar, even though they've seen it in almost every picture of K2, these are the Northern Areas of Pakistan, where many 6800m peaks lie "insignificantly" in the background of higher peaks.

Concordia is the point where the Baltoro Glacier (from the southeast) and the Godwin-Austen Glacier (from the north, i.e. from K2) meet.


Some of the world's largest glaciers outside the polar region are also in Pakistan, like Baltoro Glacier, Biafo Glacier and Hispar Glacier (all are more than 50-60km long!!!). There are countless other glaciers and glacial systems, many of which are tens of kilometers long!! You have to see it to believe it, so download the file and start exploring!!

This is an attempt to cover the many glaciers, peaks, rivers, minor tributaries, towns, villages and other interesting places in the whole Northern Pakistan. Download the file and enjoy. What started as a few placemarks of towns and some peaks around the Karakoram Highway has now evolved into this mega project.




Stats
Now some areas are in hi-res, especially Nanga Parbat's base camp, part of Hispar Glacier (where it's 1.5km wide!!), Gilgit, Skardu are also in hi-res now!! several other areas are also now hi-res.
Total 750+ Placemarks
50+ Towns on or around KKH
170+ Other towns and places
20+ Lakes
135+ Mountain Peaks above 4,000 m (60+ above 7,000 m)
50+ Glaciers
132+ Rivers and Tributaries placemarks
40+ Mountain Passes
15+ Other Interesting Places

Accuracy
Many placemarks are very accurate, but I'm afraid there are many that are not too precise as of now. Don't hesitate to send me your comments, corrections or any suggestions for improvement/categorization.

Organizing
I've divided the placemarks under Towns, Lakes, Peaks, Glaciers, Rivers, Mountain Passes and other Sites of Interest. There are so many towns, peaks, glaciers and rivers (many tributaries of Indus, Gilgit, Hunza and Khunjerab Rivers) in the list that for a better overview of the region, I've enabled only the folders "Airports", "KKH Towns", "8000+ peaks" and "Sites of Interest" as the default view.
What I have in mind for further categorization is to divide the towns and villages placemarks into two or three levels of importance (and maybe use different icons for each level), because right now there are some minor points on glacier treks listed under "Towns", alongwith important, main towns.

I will keep updating the placemarks as often as possible, in the meanwhile, enjoy these and let me know what you think about it.
Thanks!

Map for the boundaries of Districts of Northern Areas
http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php/Cat/0/Number/420099/an/0/page/0#420099
There are six Districts of Northern Areas. Open the above mentioned overlay map in Google Earth and it clearly shows what lies in which district (but this map is old, Astore district was carved out of Diamer District later on in 2004, works for all other boundaries).

I casually photographed this map in low-light (in Gilgit in 2002) and it was useless until now because the text is too small to be readable.

Sources
1- Karakoram Highway Map by John Callanan - lists many minute details that aren't usually pinpointed on maps
http://www.johnthemap.co.uk/pages/kkh_page1.html
(referred to as "JC Map" in many placemarks).

2- Many maps and the text from "Pakistan Trekking Guide", by Isobel and Ben Shaw, printed 1993. This is a very popular, excellent book, probably the best on the subject. Even though the last edition was probably published in 1993 and the prices for food, travel and accomodation mentioned are outdated, the places marked are very accurate according to my limited knowledge (even though the paths change, several roads and bridges may not exist now, and several new ones may have been built). (Isobel and Ben Shaw are a mother-and-son team of trekkers who explored Pakistan in the 1970's and 1980's.)

3- A detailed overlay map of Nanga Parbat from Keyhole BBS.

4- Most of the peaks were taken from the Keyhole BBS post of "All 158 peaks above 7000m".
http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php/Cat/0/Number/139207/an/0/page/11#139207

5- Many coordinates were also taken from the List of highest mountains

6- Three maps of LAS made in google earth that show glaciers and peaks in Baltoro Muztagh, Hispar Muztagh and Rakaposhi-Haramosh Range (referred to as LAS Map in many placemarks).

Updates
Google Imagery Update - Summary of Northern Pakistan Updates:
Northern Areas
Gilgit, Skardu, Nanga Parbat Fairy Meadows side, part of Hispar Glacier in a long chaipi, a couple of chaipis on high peaks like K6 (Baltistan peak), Khaplu etc, Chilas, Sazin

Azad Kashmir
several chapis, the area bordering with Northern Areas and with Indian Occ Kashmir)

NWFP
Peshawar, a long chaipi from below Chitral down to Swat, several chaipis in Tribal Areas, FATA etc

Def:
Chaipi = Punjabi for "Patch" (in this case, the hi-res patch)

Update1.61
* Corrected a few placemarks like Hunza, Malam Jabba and added some photos
* Dozens of new photos added (Muzaffarabad, Kaghan Valley etc).
* 50+ new placemarks all around.
* Corrected many placemarks

Update1.7
* New icons for easy recognition
* Some placemark locations corrected

Update1.6
* Dozens of new photos added (Muzaffarabad, Kaghan Valley etc).
* 50+ new placemarks all around.
* Corrected many placemarks

Update 1.5
*New icons for all placemarks ("T" Icons for towns, Blue "R" icons for rivers, "L" icons for lakes and "I" icons for other "sites of interest")
*60+ new placemarks from Upper Swat and Chitral region (rivers, lakes, towns, peaks and passes).

Update 1.4
*Fixed some image links.
*Added several pics (Skardu area, Deosai, Lakes)
*After Google earth imagery update of June 9, many parts of Northern Pakistan are now in hi-res image!!
Gilgit, Skardu are also in hi-res now!! Some of the others include Nanga Parbat's Fairy Meadows base camp, part of Hispar glacier (50-60+km, more than 1km wide!!!). Several other patches are also there in Azad Kashmir, one is from Chitral down to Swat valley, among many others...

Update 1.3
Added Placemarks of towns, passes and rivers in Ishkoman and Yasin Valleys, and in the Northern NWFP (south of Wakhan Corridor).

Update 1.2
Added some towns and places from the post by 1mran (some inaccurate placemarks were too obviously wrong for me, some are definitely accurate, the rest I've added for now).

Update1.1
Fixed some links, better description for some peaks and places, and different icons for district capitals.
Re: Northern Pakistan - Highly Detailed Waqas_ 5/16/06 9:08 PM
Fixed the links and attached the file.
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Northern Pakistan - Highly detailed - 700+ placemarks

Pakistan Guide - All Pakistan Placemarks Here
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Re: Northern Pakistan - Highly Detailed syzygy 5/17/06 12:29 AM
hi Waqas_!

thanks for this great, really well-detailed, informative and impressive post!
-5 stars-

in this thread you can find pretty good map overlays on some of your locations (gilgit, hunza, baltit, northern areas) and some additional infos on the subject.

i hope you will find it exciting!

keep up the good work!

g

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Re: Northern Pakistan - Highly Detailed Waqas_ 5/17/06 1:20 AM
Thanks a lot for the appreciation syzygy426, I came across that thread while I was uploading and updating this post, I have downloaded the overlay maps but I haven't explored them yet. You're right about the category and search idea, because any article is only useful if the users can find them through search easily. I'm not sure if it should go into travel category, but I'll browse the travel category and other categories to see where this post fits best.
Also, I had it in my mind to list all good Pakistan-related or Northern Pakistan-related threads under one thread, but I've been too exhausted from all the work through the night I'll explore these things in the next available slot of time.

I also intend to put a list of good pictures from the areas under one list, and maybe upload them to a central location at a later time (with permission from the original photographers). I've been updating several wikipedia articles on these locations as well... Hope to post more updates soon...

For now, some of my pics online:
http://pbase.com/waqas
http://waqas.fotopic.net

Thanks again,

Waqas
Re: Northern Pakistan - Highly Detailed Waqas_ 5/17/06 5:24 AM
Thank you who ever left the rating, but I'll appreciate if you leave any comments when you leave a low rating (as to why the low rating, and what could be improved).
Re: Northern Pakistan - Update 1.1 Waqas_ 5/18/06 8:02 AM
Update 1.1

Fixed some links, better description for some peaks and places, and different icons for district capitals.
Re: Update 1.2 Waqas_ 5/18/06 7:05 PM
Added some towns and places from the post by 1mran (some inaccurate placemarks were too obviously wrong for me, some are definitely accurate, the rest I've added for now). The new placemarks are mostly in NWFP (that I have barely touched yet), Swat and Kaghan regions.
Re: Northern Pakistan - Update 1.3 & Stats Waqas_ 5/19/06 12:51 PM
Update 1.3
Added Placemarks of towns, passes and rivers in Ishkoman and Yasin Valleys, and in the Northern NWFP (south of Wakhan Corridor).

Stats
Total 530+ Placemarks

50+ Towns on or around KKH
150+ Other towns and places
13 Lakes
120+ Mountain Peaks above 4,000 m (60+ above 7,000 m)
50+ Glaciers
110+ Rivers and Tributaries
35+ Mountain Passes
15+ Other Interesting Places
Re: Northern Pakistan - Highly Detailed syzygy 5/21/06 7:37 AM
GO THIS WAY!
SAT IMG OVERLAY OF KANJUT LOCATION!!!

...and please let me know if you find the exact location in Quetta , i asked in previous post on the same thread above!

thanks!
Re: Northern Pakistan - Highly Detailed Waqas_ 5/24/06 4:40 AM
Quote:

GO THIS WAY!
SAT IMG OVERLAY OF KANJUT LOCATION!!!

...and please let me know if you find the exact location in Quetta , i asked in previous post on the same thread above!

thanks!

g




Hi Syzygy,
Thanks for the link, I don't see the word Queetta on any of the threads, probably you meant something else? Queetta is in Balochistan near Afghan border.
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'est of Pakistan (Oldest, Highest, largest...)

Northern Pakistan - Highly detailed - 700+ placemarks

Pakistan Guide - All Pakistan Placemarks Here
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Re: Northern Pakistan - Highly Detailed PenguinOpus 6/3/06 9:00 AM

Very impressive placemark collection. Thank you for sharing!
Re: Northern Pakistan - Highly Detailed Waqas_ 6/8/06 4:49 AM
Thanks for the appreciation PenguinOpus, I'll try to post an update soon. Can you tell me when do they update the "i" placemarks? Is it a fixed date every month or...?
Story about this collection on gearthblog.com Waqas_ 6/8/06 4:56 AM
Frank4 has written a nice little story about this collection on the gearthblog.com:
http://www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2006/06/northern_pakist.html
Re: Northern Pakistan - Highly Detailed dunwich 6/12/06 2:56 AM
Is that only me that has problem with this file?

Everytime I try to load it in GE, GE freezes. I tried with two different PCs, with GE version
I am not yet trying to view it by checking the box. I just load the file, it appears unchecked in 'temporary places', and then GE freezes.

I use GE 3.0.0762 with MSW XP pro 2002 SP2,
and the systems tells me there is no available GE upgrade, so it has to be the last version.

any idea?
Re: Northern Pakistan - Highly Detailed Waqas_ 6/12/06 4:03 AM
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There have been lots of download but no complaints about it, does it crash only when you open this collection and not with any other collection? Maybe you have a slow PC (or slow hard disk plus lots of other apps eating RAM, and/or you have little amount of RAM) and when you download the placemarks, GE just opens them in temp places and quickly rotates the earth to the new view (which is on Northern Pakistan). That sudden jerk of GE's rotation sometimes causes it to crash if a lot of RAM is used in other application, or if you click somewhere while it's rotating the earth. Maybe you have a few other such heavy collections of placemarks selected already and that becomes too heavy for GE to rotate the earth while showing all those placemarks??
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'est of Pakistan (Oldest, Highest, largest...)

Northern Pakistan - Highly detailed - 700+ placemarks

Pakistan Guide - All Pakistan Placemarks Here
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There are ten kinds of people in this world; those who understand binary, and those who don't.
Update 1.4- Pics added & Hi-res imagery from GE! Waqas_ 6/12/06 4:08 AM
Update 1.4
Fixed some image links.

Added several pics (Skardu area, Deosai, Lakes)

After Google earth imagery update of June 9, many parts of Northern Pakistan are now in hi-res image!!

Google Imagery Update - Summary of Northern Pakistan Updates:
Northern Areas
Gilgit, Skardu, Nanga Parbat Fairy Meadows side, part of Hispar Glacier in a long chaipi, a couple of chaipis on high peaks like K6 (Baltistan peak), Khaplu etc, Chilas, Sazin

Azad Kashmir
several chapis, the area bordering with Northern Areas and with Indian Occ Kashmir)

NWFP
Peshawar, a long chaipi from below Chitral down to Swat, several chaipis in Tribal Areas, FATA etc

Def:
Chaipi = Punjabi for "Patch" (in this case, the hi-res patch)
Update 1.5 Waqas_ 8/2/06 9:24 PM
*New icons for all placemarks ("T" Icons for towns, Blue "R" icons for rivers, "L" icons for lakes and "I" icons for other "sites of interest", at least for now)

*60+ new placemarks from Upper Swat and Chitral region (rivers, lakes, towns, peaks and passes).
Re: Northern Pakistan - Highly Detailed umairdar 8/9/06 3:28 AM
Very Good Waqas

Thanks for sharing
Re: Northern Pakistan - Highly Detailed Waqas_ 8/9/06 5:17 PM
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it
Re: Northern Pakistan - Highly Detailed (Now hi-res!!) ocna 11/19/06 4:13 PM
i've updated you're Badwal Pass.
greetz
Anco
Re: Northern Pakistan - Highly Detailed (Now hi-re abrahami 12/8/06 5:06 PM
It seems that you misplaced Khan Tengri.

Here is the right location.
Re: Northern Pakistan - Highly Detailed (Now hi-res!!) hassankhan12002 12/25/06 4:51 PM
The actual name is Adam Derai, Chakdara is immidiate south of it the bigger town.
Thanks: Corrected Khan Tengri in v1.6 Waqas_ 2/11/07 9:40 PM
Quote:

It seems that you misplaced Khan Tengri.

Here is the right location.


Thanks: Corrected Adam Derai and Chakdara Waqas_ 2/11/07 9:41 PM
Quote:

The actual name is Adam Derai, Chakdara is immidiate south of it the bigger town.


Update 1.6 Waqas_ 2/11/07 9:42 PM
Update1.6
* Dozens of new photos added (Muzaffarabad, Kaghan Valley etc).
* 50+ new placemarks all around.
* Corrected many placemarks
Re: Northern Pakistan Placemarks - Highly Detailed Mutloob 5/1/07 6:31 AM
this is wrong place for malam jabba

correct location is away about 9km
34°47'55.52"N 72°34'26.23"E
Re: Northern Pakistan Placemarks - Highly Detailed franek2 5/8/07 10:05 AM
Hello Waqas,

just to let you know thatthe Baltit Fort in Karimabad is actually located 650 meters South West from your placemark. This large building is clearly visible on Google Earth.
Re: Northern Pakistan Placemarks - Highly Detailed Waqas_ 5/20/07 3:55 PM
Hi Franek,
Thanks for the update. These places were marked before the high-res image for Hunza was available, so it was just a guess (original was marked by syzygy, and I borrowed it). I have updated the location, but it will take some time to show up in the google earth's placemarks database.
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'est of Pakistan (Oldest, Highest, largest...)

Northern Pakistan - Highly detailed - 700+ placemarks

Pakistan Guide - All Pakistan Placemarks Here
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There are ten kinds of people in this world; those who understand binary, and those who don't.
Re: Northern Pakistan Placemarks - Highly Detailed Waqas_ 5/20/07 3:59 PM
Salam Mutloob,
Thanks for the correction, I have updated the placemark (will take some time to update in the google earth's database).
Re: Northern Pakistan Placemarks - Highly Detailed Greg_G 8/13/07 11:13 PM
Very informative.

Thanks,

Greg
Re: Northern Pakistan Placemarks - Highly Detailed Waqas_ 9/11/07 11:40 PM
Thanks! There must be many inaccuracies in there, but many of them are accurate, and even the inaccurate ones also give an idea about the location at least.
Re: Error in the file mughees_sarwar_awan 10/23/07 1:33 PM
please check the new version which you have uploaded because there is some error in the file at line no. 2
Re: Error in the file Waqas_ 11/2/07 6:32 AM
I also noticed that I was unable to open the file in the new version of Google Earth, I thought I had replaced the file online with one that was working...

Update:
I have replaced the file with the latest version on my hard drive and it is now working fine (at least on my PC with the newest version of Google Earth, 4.1x).
Re: Update 1.6 shankarb 12/30/07 6:31 PM
Quote:

Update1.6
* Dozens of new photos added (Muzaffarabad, Kaghan Valley etc).
* 50+ new placemarks all around.
* Corrected many placemarks





I have been reading Younghusband's book "Heart of a Continent:..." about his journey from Peking to Kashmir in 1887, culminating in the crossing of the Mustagh Pass. I am trying to follow his path on Google Earth. Does someone here have a good latitude/longitude for the two Mustagh passes? Waqas, maybe?

I am asking here because Waqas's terrific post is heavily represented in the area of my immediate interest, which is wthin a few miles radius of K2.

The closest thing I have found to an accurate map is from Shipton's Blank on the Map but I have trouble mapping it to GE with sufficient precision to keep me happy.

Thanks for any help.

- Shankar
Re: Northern Pakistan Places, Photos, 750+ Placemarks! Diane9247 7/31/08 10:59 PM
Hello Waqas, this is a wonderful post and a very good education. I am reading a book about Northern Pakistan and was happy to see this thread. ***** grin

Also, I happened to click on your map and was delighted to find your photo galleries on pbase - good work, and of course I was especially interested in the shots in N. Pakistan. It is obvious that you put your heart in everything you do!

Regards,
Diane
Re: Northern Pakistan Places, Photos, 750+ Placemarks! Waqas_ 8/12/09 10:14 AM
Thanks Diane for the compliments. I have been busy and haven't made any updates to the collection lately, in the meanwhile it's good to see that community-driven mapping of Northern Pakistan has been made available for Northern Areas of Paksitan as well. Hopefully more geographical info will be mapped on maps.google.com because currently they don't even show the highest of mountains (including K2) in the default view.
Re: Northern Pakistan Places, Photos, 750+ Placemarks! Ghazi Alam 10/21/09 9:11 PM
Great Job! Keep it up!
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