Monetization Rejection.

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Monetization Rejection. TigerSpot 6/19/12 8:40 AM
Ok well I decided to monetize one of my video's even got permission from the creator of the song I use to monetize for no legal issues. Now for some reason they rejected the monetization and it won't allow me to monetize it period......

 Why? They didn't email me why it was rejected or anything. This is the video I am monetizing. Below is the video I tried to monetize but was denied for apparently no reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcDokI07Cfg

Re: Monetization Rejection. Duck X 6/19/12 6:17 PM
What are Minecraft's terms of use, at least in terms of making screenshots of user content? You could provide a fair use case, but commercial use is rarely, if ever, fair use.

On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 11:40:17 AM UTC-4, TigerSpot wrote:
> I decided to monetize one of my video's even got permission from the creator of the song I use to monetize for no legal issues. Now for some reason they rejected the monetization and it won't allow me to monetize it period......
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcDokI07Cfg

Re: Monetization Rejection. TigerSpot 6/20/12 12:49 PM
Well then what about the other several thousand monetized Minecraft videos and game videos, they are all still considered fair use but allowed to monetize? That's what I don't get also I have several OTHER Minecraft video's monetized and this one for some reason was "Rejected"
Re: Monetization Rejection. Duck X 6/20/12 2:20 PM
Fair use won't guarantee that you're safe from legal action. The copyright holder can still file suit against YouTube - and hell, they're suing YouTube, not you - and it's up to the judge to prove fair use. YouTube probably is not interested in getting into such messes over videos; since they're selfish corporate bitches, they may not take chances with fair use.

The other thing you could do is complain to YouTube for violating Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act (for using their corporate powers to discriminate against you).

Re: Monetization Rejection. TigerSpot 6/20/12 2:39 PM
How can I complain to them when the only way I see to contact them is by mail :/ or else I would use something along those lines of complaints.
Re: Monetization Rejection. Cabo_ose 6/22/12 4:52 PM
Mojang terms are very clear: you can monetize all videos that are containing Minecraft footage. YouTube is just very dumb, even if that you point at Minecraft terms https://account.mojang.com/terms they do not give a cra... penny.
The same thing and at my videos.
I know that I will not gain money by this, but i am tired to explain every time what the hell is containing my clip.
If they are unable to make something they should go home, and myself on vimeo, blip and other tons of sites.
Re: Monetization Rejection. PeggyK 6/22/12 5:25 PM
YouTube says:


"Videos simply showing a user playing a video game or the use of software for extended periods of time may not be accepted for monetization."

Re: Monetization Rejection. Cabo_ose 6/22/12 5:48 PM
Do you or YouTube understands what live commentary is? Or if I am not partner I can be trashed?
Also Minecraft is not a game that you can play in 15 mins, and also since I do not break any Minecraft rule from his terms why I can not continue with that?
Obviously there are partners that have only Minecraft videos and guess what, they can do what they want. Sweet!
Re: Monetization Rejection. Duck X 6/22/12 8:33 PM
According to Minecraft's terms of service http://www.minecraft.net/terms :
> Other than commercial use, you're free to do whatever you want with screenshots and videos of the game.
I don't know how those Partners even got to monetize those videos.
Re: Monetization Rejection. Cabo_ose 6/23/12 2:56 AM
You must to not understand that you can not sell plugins/mods. Is a dot there, that is separating two statements.
Re: Monetization Rejection. Duck X 6/23/12 6:08 AM
They don't want users to distribute their own user content. But they allow screenshots and that's not the same thing.
Re: Monetization Rejection. Cabo_ose 6/23/12 6:24 AM
I do not understand your idea. Probably you should read minecraft terme and conditions.
BTW, i am focusing on minecraft beacause of it's terms, but this can be easely extended to other video games.
Re: Monetization Rejection. PeggyK 6/23/12 9:22 AM
Following the Minecraft terms is the minimum requirement to monetize your videos. But even if you are following Minecraft's terms, YouTube reserves the right to reject videos for monetization if they don't believe they would be suitable for some reason.
Re: Monetization Rejection. Duck X 6/23/12 10:40 AM
Maybe it's because they don't think they can get a commercial advantage if they do choose to monetize the video. Selfish bitches.
Re: Monetization Rejection. TigerSpot 6/23/12 3:25 PM
Well still trying to contact Youtube/Google about it but still no clue how I did a bug report considering that's the only option I know of that is not by mail T.T
Re: Monetization Rejection. Duck X 6/23/12 3:33 PM
Why can't you just use mail?
Re: Monetization Rejection. Cabo_ose 6/23/12 3:46 PM
I have find a solution, or at least until tomorrow or monday this seems to be cleared. I know that youtube is over-protecting his ass (I will do the same) but in the description put as many „related” links: terms of use of the game and of the song. And try to provide terms that are very clear(in case of a song).
So for a song terms need to be very clear, I will use machinimasong.com.
It is a part of the solution. I'm not sure that youtube is not considering that any content that is legal is not avaiable for providing comercials because from that they are gaining money.
Re: Monetization Rejection. Cabo_ose 6/23/12 3:46 PM
Try machinimasound.com, sorry.
Re: Monetization Rejection. TigerSpot 6/24/12 10:28 AM
Cuz I don't have mail close to me.... closest one is about 10 minute drive.
Re: Monetization Rejection. TigerSpot 6/24/12 10:29 AM
Worst part is I even got the right to use song for commercial use by the creator and then it flat out gets denied T.T
Re: Monetization Rejection. Duck X 6/24/12 10:33 AM
On Sunday, June 24, 2012 1:29:28 PM UTC-4, TigerSpot wrote:
> Worst part is I even got the right to use song for commercial use by the creator and then it flat out gets denied T.T

Maybe you didn't explain clearly to them that you were going to use it on YouTube.

Re: Monetization Rejection. TigerSpot 6/24/12 9:50 PM
I was very clear I even linked them the video to make 100% sure, and still can't monetize it cuz of it being rejected.
Re: Monetization Rejection. techtips9391 6/29/12 5:03 AM
if we rejected first time for monetize feature can we do again
Re: Monetization Rejection. TigerSpot 7/1/12 12:16 AM
By the looks of it once it is rejected you can't get it monetized.
Re: Monetization Rejection. ThatDaveCarter 7/18/12 5:22 PM
My videos have also been rejected for Monetization! Not happy.. The Yogscast and others can monetize their minecraft videos, mine are very similar to theirs, so what's the deal here?? Seems to be one rule for top partners and another for the people lower down the ladder..

Just an FYI too.... Minecraft have recently updated their terms because of all of this messing around with YouTube..

"You may not make any other commercial use of the Minecraft Brand or Minecraft Assets for example you may not sell any merchandise that uses the Minecraft Brand or Minecraft Assets. If you upload videos of the game to video sharing and streaming sites you are however allowed to put ads on them."

Highlighting the important part here: "If you upload videos of the game to video sharing and streaming sites you are however allowed to put ads on them." (Taken from: http://www.minecraft.net/brand-guidelines)

Re: Monetization Rejection. TigerSpot 7/18/12 6:56 PM
Awesome would present that to youtube but there is no contact us or anything...... they just send us to a FAQ/Support Page. So basically video is de-monetized forever T.T
Re: Monetization Rejection. Duck X 7/18/12 7:07 PM
From what I remember, there is a forum you can use to appeal a monetization. But really, YouTube is just as understaffed as the patent office, and the employees who review monetization requests are pretty careless. Can you believe they actually let NBC take down videos they don't own?
Re: Monetization Rejection. ThatDaveCarter 7/19/12 1:14 AM
Actually @TigerSpot, when YouTube send you a link to appeal the monetization rejection there is a link in the email, or on the page they send you to which lets you submit information about why your video should be approved..

Doesn't seem to do anything though. I appealed when they rejected a video I made using my own music and my own visuals.. Still, nothing has been done (It's been nearly a month)

YouTube seriously need to get their act together! Their partner hub paints a really pretty picture "Oh, you can be a YouTube sensation and earn money" -- But in reality it's not that easy. How do they expect to be the home of the next big YouTube thing if they're failing on the fundamentals??

Re: Monetization Rejection. Cabo_ose 7/19/12 1:29 AM
Actually you can appeal now from video manager. YouTube is changing very much this year. But they seems to fail at verifying the appeals, or after that, they are not telling you what is the problem.
Re: Monetization Rejection. TigerSpot 7/20/12 8:23 PM
Can't find where it is to appeal for my videos, in video manager that is. It's just sad that they can't get their act together.
Re: Monetization Rejection. Duck X 7/21/12 11:25 AM
YouTube censors Olympics footage...

I think they should make the monetization process transparent. I mean, if there are humans working behind the scenes, then they should be able to email you a rationale as to why they don't think it's a good idea to monetize your video. If it's blatant porno or copyvio they can shoot it down (but only if they can really be taken to court for hosting it).

You know what? I'll start my own video hosting site based on the MediaWiki software (which powers Wikipedia). Every single executive process will be completely transparent so that people will know why the admins decided to do something or block someone from uploading (and blocks aren't permanent). Who's in?
Re: Monetization Rejection. TigerSpot 7/23/12 11:21 AM
That would be really cool, I would love to help but I dunno how to code and my web designs are not the best.
Re: Monetization Rejection. Duck X 7/23/12 1:51 PM
Actually, there was one time when Viacom spammed YouTube with 100,000+ DMCA takedown notices, a lot of which were complete bullshit. They were targeting videos that merely matched search results for the titles of their TV shows, such as "redbones". And this clip showed up in the results.
Re: Monetization Rejection. Duck X 7/23/12 1:55 PM
It's mostly the law that's wrong. There are proposals to amend the DMCA that will probably make using YouTube more enjoyable for you.
Re: Monetization Rejection. TigerSpot 7/23/12 5:19 PM
I really hope so cuz youtube went from being really nice to use to being crap.... T.T and lol ofc a company sent bunch of DMCA takedown notices, they got no life other than to ruin another company :)

 I just want to be able to monetize without problems.

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