|I posted a disclaimer on my copyrighted videos; why did they get deleted anyway?||xomadisonsavannaxo||9/12/11 4:43 PM|
I posted four videos that included content from the film Battle Royale and some songs. I understand that these were copyrighted material and no, I didn't get permission (honestly how could I? -_-) but I posted a disclaimer saying I didn't own anything in the video, yet YouTube deleted all of them for copyright infringement. Was it because I didn't specifically say who owned them? If I do that could I repost them and they wouldn't get deleted?
|Re: I posted a disclaimer on my copyrighted videos; why did they get deleted anyway?||markimatang||9/12/11 6:02 PM|
Posting a "disclaimer" has absolutely no effect on the fact that you are infringing copyright. If anything you are admitting that you know that you are infringing copyright. If it were my copyright I'd be pissed!
|Re: I posted a disclaimer on my copyrighted videos; why did they get deleted anyway?||xomadisonsavannaxo||9/12/11 8:18 PM|
How does it make it worse?!? Did you not see the last part of my question? I'd be giving them full credit and saying I don't own it. I honestly think YouTube is overreacting; I don't think it should count as copyright infringement as long as you don't take full credit for everything in the video, if you post a disclaimer saying that you own nothing I don't see the problem. it's unfair how mine and other people's videos randomly get deleted while other users post copyrighted videos everyday without giving the owner credit yet theirs stays up on YT. If anything I'm helping advertise their film,I don't see why companys have to get so damn sensitive.
|Re: I posted a disclaimer on my copyrighted videos; why did they get deleted anyway?||markimatang||9/12/11 8:43 PM|
Absolutely not! It was because you used copyrighted material without first getting a license from the copyright owner.
Absolutely not! If anything you are admitting that you know that you are infringing copyright. You must have the copyright owners permission (license) except for fair use but you had better learn about copyright before your even dare to go there.
What you think doesn’t matter. Copyright LAW is what matters.
Copyright LAW is the problem. You can’t use something that you don’t own without permission from the owner.
They might not give a flying rats tail for your help.
Neither do I but its their right to control their property any way they want. Would you be sensitive if someone borrowed your pants without asking?
|Re: I posted a disclaimer on my copyrighted videos; why did they get deleted anyway?||xomadisonsavannaxo||9/12/11 9:13 PM|
I still think it's unfair. Yeah they probably don't care for my my help but I helped their film get at least a little more attention and gave them full credit, so out of the choices of stealing their work and advertising it (for free) I clearly did the latter. I worked hard on editing those videos and it should get at least a little recognition. :/ I've noticed this company is especially strict about their stuff; ALL the Battle Royale videos I've seen end up getting deleted, even the freaking trailer.
|Re: I posted a disclaimer on my copyrighted videos; why did they get deleted anyway?||Mxsmanic||9/13/11 3:17 AM|
It's not unfair. It takes a lot of time, money, and effort to produce good videos and movies, and companies or individuals who do this for a living depend on licensing fees to pay their rent. If everyone simply steals their content without paying them, they starve. That's why copyright law was developed, to give people who create artistic works the ability to strictly control how those works are used, for a limited time. They can grant permission to others to use the works in exchange for money (or for free, if they wish), but unless they grant that permission, nobody else can use the works.
Your unauthorized use of the content benefits you far more than it benefits the copyright holder. You are stealing their work for your own benefit. They can get all the attention they need from licensed users of their content; they do not need thieves to promote their work.
You didn't work hard on those videos at all. Compare what you did to what the producers of the film and songs did, and you'll see that it pales to insignificance. If you want recognition, create your own films and songs from scratch, then you'll have complete control over them and complete freedom to use them. But you may be in for a very rude awakening when it comes to the definition of "working hard."
|Re: I posted a disclaimer on my copyrighted videos; why did they get deleted anyway?||xomadisonsavannaxo||9/16/11 8:21 PM|
Tell me, do you think YouTube would be anywhere near as popular as it is if it had no copyright? Are you saying you've never searched for a music video, movie or show clip, or fan video? You watch ONLY completely original content?!? If YouTube didnt 't have copyrighted material uploaded honestly would anyone go on it? Like 95% of the videos on that site are owned by someone else, and I can assure that a majority of the people don't take the time to contact the original owners. That's why I said it was unfair; there are many, many videos with copyrighted material on YT, yet they all stay on there when at least I gave the owners credit and mine get deleted.
And I'm not the one making hundreds of thousands of dollars off the film and song; I made the videos simply for fun and only have about 9 subscribers, and the only people who actually watch and comment on them are my family and friends. I didn't get any benefit out of posting those videos, no subscribers, nothing. And you know what? I don't care. I just wanted my friends to see what I did. I also paid for the clips and music, so it's not like I was using their stuff without paying them.
And who are you to say I didn't work hard on those videos? I don't judge everything I do based off what others have done. No, I didn't make and edit a two hour long film, but that doesn't mean I didn't work hard on making the videos.
|Re: I posted a disclaimer on my copyrighted videos; why did they get deleted anyway?||Mxsmanic||9/17/11 1:07 AM|
There is a great deal of original content on YouTube. There are creative people out there with the brains necessary to create their own videos from scratch, and they don't need to steal things from other people in order to pretend that they're making videos of their own. And yes, almost all of what I watch on YouTube is original content. I'm not interested in seeing fuzzy copies of content that is already available elsewhere.
A minority of YouTube users are losers who either steal all the content in their videos because they're too stupid or dishonest or lazy to create their own, or only watch videos made with stolen content because they're too cheap to pay for it. Nevertheless, for other users, there's a huge gold mine of completely original work out there to discover, and for those who are able and prepared to expend some effort, YouTube provides a way to stream their totally original content.
In other words, I'm not impressed by the infringers who have a long list of excuses for their illegal uploads. They can't make their own videos, so they steal everything they upload. They are losers, pure and simple, and if they disappeared tomorrow from YouTube, it would scarcely affect me, since I'm interested in original content.
It doesn't matter who makes the money. It doesn't matter how many subscribers one has. It doesn't matter who else is doing it. It's illegal to infringe on copyrights, period. If you think the law doesn't apply to you, go rob a bank and see what happens. Some people will do anything they can get away with, be it legal or not. Others have ethics, and will not do illegal things even if they are certain that they wouldn't be caught or punished. And the ethics here are driven by the simple fact that it is unfair to infringe on copyrights. It's unfair to steal someone else's work.
I'm certain you didn't work hard on the videos. Copying and pasting is a thousand times easier than creating videos from scratch, especially professionally-produced videos, which can cost anywhere from thousands to millions of dollars to produce and require the efforts of dozens or hundreds of people, all of whom have rent to pay and mouths to feed.