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Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links

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Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links OwnerEditor 4/3/14 2:16 PM
Have you employed a spectacularly bad SEO company at some time in the past? Those guest postings - and the truly awful content on your home page - suggest that you have. It looks like there is a lot of work to be undone.

You can start by filing a disavowal request for that domain and any equally toxic ones.
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Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links KillerBOT 4/3/14 2:28 PM
I've never hired an Seo company for this project. I did it all myself. That's how I know without a doubt that it's not meant to be there.

Cleaning up the content now.

Anything else I can do other than disavow. Seems like there are new links being added daily.

Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links KillerBOT 4/3/14 2:29 PM
There are over 100 similar domains with the same content and anchor text.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links OwnerEditor 4/3/14 2:44 PM
You can ask them to stop linking but I doubt they will. Keep disavowing as they come in.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links KillerBOT 4/3/14 2:51 PM
Any ideas how I can discover the network or owner?


Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Lysis 4/3/14 2:51 PM
This site is web spam..

On Thursday, April 3, 2014 4:19:15 PM UTC-4, Braydon D'Aguiar wrote:
I've spent a lot of time building and marketing my site and it fell out of the search rankings overnight two nights ago.

I've looked at my backlinks in webmaster tools and I have over 100 links from what seems to be a blog network following the same format and using the same anchor text and content.

I can't even access the live pages on most of them. Get a forbidden error so my ip class is blocked. 

WHAT DO IT DO???? Please help.

Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links OwnerEditor 4/3/14 3:00 PM
"Any ideas how I can discover the network or owner?"

whois.com


"This site is web spam.."

Which one?
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Lysis 4/3/14 3:04 PM
oh is the sanisweb not his? That's what I get for scanning for a URL and not reading.

If it's a blog network, this guy probably paid an SEO for that stuff.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links OwnerEditor 4/3/14 3:11 PM
No, though it is indeed a festival of spam. No paid SEO involvement either apparently.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links KillerBOT 4/3/14 3:14 PM
I definitely did NOT hire an seo company to spam my site and get it deindex...then once again be stupid enough to come post my mistake in a google forum. 

I'm truly seeking help. 

I found that all the domains have privacy and seems to be registered through the same host: http://www.az.pl/

I've contacted the host to help with removal.


Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Lysis 4/3/14 3:18 PM
If you're so innocent why aren't you just disavowing
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links OwnerEditor 4/3/14 3:21 PM
"I definitely did NOT hire an seo company to spam my site and get it deindex...then once again be stupid enough to come post my mistake in a google forum."

You'd be surprised how often that happens!

Good luck with the host, but I think you'll be disavowing sooner rather than later.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Michael Martinez 4/3/14 3:39 PM
Lysis, you're being particularly more useless than usual.  Your unnecessary rudeness is the talk of the Web.  Literally.  I have come across several forums in the past couple of weeks where people who came here to ask for help complained about being attacked by the rude people here.

And it didn't take you long to launch in with an unprovoked flame before you ever bothered to look at what was being reported.

I suggest you take a break from these forums.  You're clearly beyond helping anyone in your present state of mind.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Michael Martinez 4/3/14 3:40 PM
File a disavow list through Google Webmaster Tools.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links OwnerEditor 4/3/14 3:44 PM
I don't know, I'd go with sanisawebhost being spam too.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links KillerBOT 4/3/14 3:47 PM
I was talking to a friend of mine who send me here and said to watch out that people are quite rude.

I've just gone through all of my links and close to 300 pages from the same network. Started on March 2nd so from the time my site hit the home page and last one on the list is march 23 all last month.


Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links KillerBOT 4/3/14 3:48 PM
sanisawebhost is one of the sites linking in to me.

Should I post the list of urls i found from the blog networking linking to me?
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Cheerful Charlie 4/3/14 4:07 PM
Hi Braydon, I'm confused. Can you help me out here? I looked at those pages and they look like spun content (i.e. articles taken from elsewhere and slightly modified).

Are you saying that those pages link to your pages? Or are there other pages on that blog that link to your website?

What would really help is the URL of your site. You can use a goo.gl shortener if you don't want to display it publicly.



I've spent a lot of time building and marketing my site

What kind of marketing? I'm curious about that.

Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Lysis 4/3/14 4:07 PM
>> Your unnecessary rudeness is the talk of the Web.  Literally. 

lol That's pretty awesome.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links KillerBOT 4/3/14 4:09 PM
Good should really just not value poor links rather than de indexing our websites.
Has to be one of my competitors on the home page doing this. Wish I can find out and sue them! Time to dig. Disavow submitted will keep you guys posted.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links OwnerEditor 4/3/14 4:09 PM
In the disavow request, you mean? No, make it one line per site, like this:

domain:[site.whatever]

No www, even if there is one.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links KillerBOT 4/3/14 4:13 PM
Yes 260 of those types of pages with the same content links to my site spamming the main anchor text "web hosting".

I don't really want to go into the details of my marketing but I know I have around 20 links pointing directly to my website from press release, social and other reliable sources.

Rather not post my url. I'm sure it's not too hard to find either.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links KillerBOT 4/3/14 4:16 PM
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Michael Martinez 4/3/14 4:19 PM
I have never seen so many complaints about a Bionic Poster as I have seen about you.  Why Google keeps you on the team is a complete mystery.  You're a real embarrassment to the company and this community.

Why don't you just tone it down by NOT replying when you don't want to contribute anything useful to a discussion?
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Lysis 4/3/14 4:21 PM
Links please! New ones! Not the lame ones from like a year ago.

plz plox
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links OwnerEditor 4/3/14 4:23 PM
"Rather not post my url. I'm sure it's not too hard to find either."

No. Hence my comment about content. But one thing at a time.

"I didn't realize i had to strip them down to domain. I guess that's better incase more links pop up on those sites."

You don't have to. You can go for the URLs. But doing it by domain is quicker, and do you think a site that has a dodgy link will have other good links you want to keep? Nope. So domain it is.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links OwnerEditor 4/3/14 4:24 PM
Charlie, those pages do not belong to the OP.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Cheerful Charlie 4/3/14 4:25 PM
Without your URL can't help you much.


press release, social and other reliable sources

There you have it. Was your URL on your press release? If you posted it to a crap press release site every Tom, Dick and Harry is going to take that release and spin it and add it to every crap scraper site for years to come, your rubbish links will continue growing year in year out. If that's what happened with your press release, I'd hate to imagine what your other "reliable sources" are and whether the same has happened there as well.

Anyway, as you don't want to divulge anything this is all speculation, and you are on your own here.

Good luck with your site and your marketing efforts.

Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Michael Martinez 4/3/14 4:26 PM
You can't be serious.  I'm not going to play this game with you.  I AM asking you to tone it down.  I don't enjoy reading your vicious unprovoked attacks on people who are just asking for help.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Lysis 4/3/14 4:30 PM
Post proof or retract! Come on.... you brought it up! I want to see all this chatter about lil' ol' me.


Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Cheerful Charlie 4/3/14 4:31 PM
I realise that OE. But if it's the site I'm thinking it is, the OP is going down a very dangerous route with his "marketing". Look at his anchor text cloud (which doesn't even include those dodgy blogs he's referring to). I doubt it is any nSEO but his own efforts tanking his site.

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Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Cheerful Charlie 4/3/14 4:32 PM

I don't enjoy reading your vicious unprovoked attacks

Don't do it then.

Lysis is honest. That's a good thing.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links OwnerEditor 4/3/14 4:39 PM
I agree, Charlie, and I think the content is causing major problems too. I was just trying to focus on the backlinks question amid all the noise.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links KillerBOT 4/3/14 4:42 PM
Content on my site?

If you look at the anchor text distribution on the bottom left in ahref you`ll see that my url is the most used anchor.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links KillerBOT 4/3/14 4:43 PM
The anchor cloud i find doesn`t display a full picture
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links OwnerEditor 4/3/14 5:00 PM
The home page seems to have changed very considerably in the last two hours. It's not immediately apparent what the site is for. Are you giving advice or selling a service? Obviously the latter, but that's not the impression I get first of all. I think this should be clearer.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Cheerful Charlie 4/3/14 5:06 PM
We aren't getting the full story here OE so I think it's quite pointless to continue until we do. I'm not going to keep guessing. Good luck to the OP.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Lysis 4/3/14 5:08 PM
Yep, CC. Exactly. He knows enough to know he's on a blog network but not enough to just disavow if he is innocent? Yeah.

And MM still hasn't delivered. I will accept his retraction.

Lysis: 1  MM: 0
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links KillerBOT 4/3/14 5:08 PM
Normally there is a table with the top 10 hosting providers. I've been ripping the site apart trying to figure out what happened so it definitely does not appear clear at this point.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links KillerBOT 4/3/14 5:15 PM
Cheerful: what else would you like to know?

I was aware that I can disavow links. I just don`t know if there is a point or if the service actually works or does anything.

I have used networks like sape in the past. Wouldn`t touch them again. I built this site quite safe using web 2.0 links, articles and social pages. Nothing else and links from friend`s websites in related industries and companies i work with.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Cheerful Charlie 4/3/14 5:16 PM
The irony of MM rudely hijacking another poster's thread to push his personal agenda against you has been noted, probably in a spreadsheet.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Lysis 4/3/14 5:16 PM
>> I have used networks like sape in the past. 

lol BINGO wat I tell ya?
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links KillerBOT 4/3/14 5:21 PM
This is waste of time and just aggravating me.

Are you on your period Lysis?
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links OwnerEditor 4/3/14 5:25 PM
Okay, I'm out of here.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Cheerful Charlie 4/3/14 5:31 PM

I built this site quite safe using web 2.0 links, articles and social pages.

I don't know where you got your advice from, but it's totally wrong. You are working against Google guidelines and you wonder why you have dropped in the search results.

I think you might benefit from these links.

Google Webmaster Guidelines

Google SEO Starter Guide

Google’s guidance on building high quality websites


And you owe Lysis an apology. How dare you put someone down based on their gender. That is totally uncalled for and extremely rude.


 
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Globe Genius 4/3/14 6:44 PM
"Vicious"  ouch!  lol


Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links StevieD_Web 4/3/14 7:12 PM
>I built this site quite safe using web 2.0 links, articles and social pages. Nothing else and links from friend`s websites in related industries and companies i work with.

OK.  I will bite.  Which of those links do you believe to be natural and acceptable per the Google guidelines ?


Ignoring that for a moment.....just a few random thoughts...

Ads above the fold?  Check.  Worse the ad above the fold could be enough by itself to justify classifying the site as a doorway site.  And we all know how much Google doesn't like doorway sites.

Footer?

How To Set Up Your Footer

To set up your footer go to Appearance > Widgets and then drag and drop the desired widgets on the left into one to four of the footer widget areas on the right.


I loved that one 


The street address on the website is confusing ... Google maps plants the address on the Queen Street Viaduct.  Obviously there is an issue with the address... or Google maps just farted.

Regardless, businesses that sell products should if all possible have a verifiable physical street address and the funkiness related to yours could be a poor trust signal.

The telephone number is not a published business telephone but is being flagged as a mobile phone.   Combined with the street address issue, and even more trust questions are being raised.

Domain registration is empty.  Another trust signal.

Worse, the domain registration was for 1 year period.  Most businesses think they are going to survive/last forever so they register their domain names for the same.  A short period domain registration is another trust signal.


EMD?  Check.   The site is trying to match the broad generic queries where the site has no greater expertise than any other vendor selling the same products.  Google has removed the benefit of matching the query for EMD qualified sites (a penalty if you will).... especially for sites with trust issues that I previously outlined.


Affiliate marketer?  Check.  While not directly an AM, the site qualifies in general terms in that the site is generating business for ANOTHER business.  When combined with EMD, AM is a horrible combination.  And if Google has classified the site as a doorway site, 3 bads + trust = drop kick to the groin. 


Tasty Anchor Text.  Check.  I am using Ahrefs to dissect the anchor text of the backlinks to the site.  After ignoring CWH (abbreviated for privacy reasons) the remaining text is downright tasty.  Deep fat fried, crunchy tasty.  Even if there were no other problems (EMD, AM, potential doorway, Trust), the anchor text on just those few links being reported by Ahrefs is going to be problematic.


All in all, the combination of issues does not paint a pretty picture.... and I discounted/ignored the link sources the OP is concerned with.

Solutions?   Too many problems for easy resolution... and even if each problem was addressed the EMD issue would still remain.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links JohnMu 4/4/14 6:48 AM
After looking a bit for your site ... to start off with, those links are not causing any problems at the moment. Putting the domains in a disavow file is fine if you think they might be leftovers from a previous SEO, and that you don't want to be associated with them. We're already mostly ignoring those links (just like we're ignoring the "web 2.0" / Pinterest / YouTube / article / etc links), but if you see them and want to make sure that they're not causing any issues, disavowing them is fine.

So that being said, I'd really recommend focusing on your own site, and working to make sure it's the absolute best of it's kind. Don't aim to be "just as good/bad as others" but instead find ways that you can differentiate your site so that it's something people are explicitly looking for. 

Cheers
John
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Roxana S. 4/10/14 6:55 AM
Hello John!

Wikipedia is also inlcuding blogs under web 2.0 websites:

A Web 2.0 site may allow users to interact and collaborate with each other in a social media dialogue as creators of user-generated content in a virtual community, in contrast to Web sites where people are limited to the passive viewing of content. Examples of Web 2.0 include social networking sites, blogs, wikis, folksonomies, video sharing sites, hosted services, Web applications, and mashups.[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0

Is Google also including blogs? I for one would say no, otherwise while still penalise guest blogging networks and not just ignore them?

But how about automated services that create backlinks?
- WHOIS websites;
- Top X websites on the web;
- Alexa rank scrapers;

And so on. Are these being ignored as well? And I know, most of these should be nofollowed already. Take it from me, a lot of them aren't and my disavow file is filled of them.


Hope to get you back on this thread,

Roxana Stingu


P.S.: When seeing a Google representative on here I get excited as on Christmas morning.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Ashley 4/10/14 9:14 AM
I would say the definition of "web 2.0" is pretty loose. 

John pointed out it had to do with interacting with people, so if blogs were included I would think it was targeted more at commenting; which is generally nofollowed anyway. Not guest blogs - which is a whole 'nother can of spam/probs. 


But how about automated services that create backlinks? 
Keep in mind that Google is opaque, but I believe there have been referenceds that many of these run of the mill scrapers are usually and largely ignored. If you're concerned, disavow. Google cares more about building links to manipulate ranking. 
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Roxana S. 4/10/14 9:32 AM
Hello Ashley!

And thank you for taking the time to answer. I already have a pretty good view on these matters but I just want an official answer to confirm I'm on the right path.

As for the automatic stuff, when it's a small site I guess it's not that hard to pull a backlinks profile and update the disavow file. But when it's a large website, am i really supposed to spend a week each month deciding what's an automatic website and what isn't?

I guess I'm a bit naive in thinking I can get an yes or no answer at this stage. Google's ranking factors have been the biggest secrets of the millennium, we can keep guessing but no one will ever confirm.

Again, thank you Ashley!
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Ashley 4/10/14 9:38 AM
but I just want an official answer to confirm I'm on the right path. 
Ok - I'll bow out. 

I guess I'm a bit naive in thinking I can get an yes or no answer at this stage. Google's ranking factors have been the biggest secrets of the millennium, we can keep guessing but no one will ever confirm. 
Correct. Sort of. Google is opaque, but they have tons of documentation/blogs/videos/tips/tools/etc. to help you make good decisions on the site. I think if you're fixating on an algorithm, then you're totally missing the point. Google tells you NOT to do that. 
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links rifr 4/17/14 4:36 AM
I think Google's ranking factors are

  1. on page issue -title, H tag, content - 5%

  2. content depthness 20%

  3. page views 20%

  4. page bounce rate 10%

  5. page social share rate 20%

  6. page update - 5%

  7. back links - 20%


Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links OwnerEditor 4/17/14 4:56 AM
Source?
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links travler. 4/17/14 6:06 AM
  1. content depthness 20%
Can you elaborate on this factor, please and thank you.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Lysis 4/17/14 7:24 AM
I think rifr comment is 

1. 99% BS
2. 1% troll
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links LeePrice1986 4/17/14 8:15 AM
Depthness is a word now?
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Lysis 4/17/14 8:21 AM


Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links OwnerEditor 4/17/14 8:31 AM
"Depthness is a word now?"

I hope so, though being British I'm trying to find a way of putting an unnecessary "u" in it.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Lysis 4/17/14 8:33 AM
Oh you u people and your extra u

Why don't you just come to the dark side and make it easier for everyone?
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links OwnerEditor 4/17/14 8:42 AM
Well, where would the sport be in that?
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Lysis 4/17/14 8:53 AM
I keep challenging Ben to a duel to the death, but he hides over there across the pond behind all his U's.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links OwnerEditor 4/17/14 9:16 AM
Can't entirely say I blame him.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Ben Griffiths 4/17/14 9:35 AM
I feel no need to defend my honour.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links OwnerEditor 4/17/14 3:30 PM
Laff Owt Lowd.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Lysis 4/17/14 5:07 PM
He teases me he does. Nasty hobitssesssss
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Nev76 5/10/14 9:36 AM
Hi I had this same problem with a load of spammy links. im still getting them, lateset being yesterday. How long does the disavow take to implement?
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links OwnerEditor 5/10/14 3:36 PM
Could you start your own thread on this, please? Less confusing. Thanks.
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links Lalit Burma 5/19/14 6:53 PM
Hey John

How are you ? Kindly explore what do you mean by web 2.0 ? Is it only pinterest, facebook or twitter or Google also include blog based website such
as Google's own property - blogspot.com ?
Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links rifr 5/19/14 10:18 PM
various seo forums, and personal experience also help of 

Re: Another Webmaster is Spamming my Site with Network Links rifr 5/19/14 10:23 PM
content depthness  I mean length of article and type of content read this one http://www.quicksprout.com/2014/03/31/how-long-should-each-blog-post-be-a-data-driven-answer/
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