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Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1?

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Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? Leorex1971 9/23/09 5:19 AM
I upgraded to Sketchup 7.1 and now when i open the import window, i don't have the option to import AUTOCAD files (.dwg).
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? Jody Gates 9/23/09 8:48 AM
Hi Leorex1971,

This feature was removed from version 7.1 of SketchUp (the free version), while SketchUp Pro continues to offer it. We posted about the change on the SketchUp Blog a couple of weeks ago including the current workarounds. You can read more about the change at the link below:

http://sketchupdate.blogspot.com/2009/08/coming-soon-in-google-sketchup.html

Hope that helps,
Jody
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? Leorex1971 9/23/09 12:24 PM
Ok well noted.
Thanks a lot for your reply.
 
 
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? svn.blogger 10/10/09 9:01 AM
Here is a post regarding the problem: http://craftsman-hambs.blogspot.com/2009/10/r-ecently-next-7.html
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? lancer1991 10/21/09 11:46 AM
Re-installing older version because of this.  That was a great feature that I liked to use.
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? Anselmus 10/21/09 12:10 PM
A free plugin from Google to import DWG/DXF into SU Free 7.1
 
 
Anssi
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? Leorex1971 11/3/09 3:46 AM
great, thank you for your reply.
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? Timothy Garrison 11/15/09 7:44 PM
Well, I am using the Pro Demo version and attempting to import AutoCAD 2002 dwg files.  Using the file/import menu option  I first tried a complex 3d model with blocks and text and it was a total disaster - what was imported was only a semblance of the original AutoCAD file.  So I thought I would try a much simpler drawing and the results were basically the same.  What I have experience is laughable performance - perhaps there is some sort of explination...

What is more, it seems the intended path would be to import said AutoCAD files into SketchUP and then import them into Layout.  That isn't exaclty convenient.  I was really hopeful about Sketchup - but I guess that I may have assumed too much.  The commands for moving about in 3d are clunky - many other 3d programs have the same problem - the analogy is this: Imagine an auto mechanic - every time he wants to move his head to get a better view - he has to set his tools down, then he can move his head and then he can pick up his tools again.  Sound idiotic?
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? catamountain 11/15/09 8:24 PM
AutoCAD files can have a lot of unnecessary crap that SU does not need.  You need to clean up the file http://sites.google.com/site/sketchupsage/tips-tricks#TOC-Working-with-CAD-and-Other-Programs
 
If you are still having problems, can you post a link to the problem CAD files?  Most people don't have any problems after the files are prepared for SU import.
 
Regarding movement while working, look at the 3D navigators.  They will let you orbit and pan with the left hand while using another tool with the right hand.  I have mine set to center its orbit about whatever is selected.  And some will let you map keyboard shortcuts and other functions, like the arrow keys:
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? Anselmus 11/16/09 9:36 AM
Timothy,
 
SU is a 3D modeler and its AutoCad import functions are tuned so that it simply ignores everything that is not useful in creating a 3D model. It is not meant as a CAD tool or DWG viewer. For viewing, printing and converting DWG files I would recommend DWG TrueView, free from Autodesk.
 
Also, like all third party applications, SU cannot translate application-specific objects, like the walls and other building parts created with add-on software such as AutoCad Architecture (former Architectural Desktop). These have to be "exported to AutoCad" from the application that created them.
 
As to navigating tools -  I almost never use the toolbar buttons, as the mouse wheel is almost everything I need (scroll to zoom, press to orbit, shift-press to pan, and it can be done in the middle of a command)
 
Anssi
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? Timothy Garrison 11/18/09 8:20 AM
That's a good answer, those are good answers.  I am interested in SU as a 3d modeling program.  AutoCad is, well, AutoCAD.  I have been on that since version 2.6 which makes it really difficult to give up alcohol altogether.
 
But I also need to publish editable 2d line (system schematic) drawings in a largely Mac environment.  I was hoping that Layout would provide that path.  I am a bit stuck seeing as AutoDesk does not have a real solution i.e. Design Review is not native to Mac OS. 
 
It would seem that SU would scare the heck out of AutoDesk if they came up with a 2d drafting solution along the lines of Visio - well, even just a basic 2d drafting package.
Focussing on 3d is cool and striping out the unnecessary data totally rocks for that world indeed.  But it would seem SU could then employ 2 modes of import, a second one to include blocks/inserts, text, dimensions etc.  Allow embeding of HTML links and well, wow.  
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? Ozarakhsh 3/23/10 10:09 AM
SKU 7.1 with free DWG translator installed on SKU.

I can not import DWG created by AutoCAD LT 2010 ... tried saving as 2007 DWG and still SKU gives error "not valid DWG or write protected"? ... after importing it as PDF I see the lines dont close to make faces (same problem I have had with SKU 5.0 until now)  ... SKU is good when starting in SKU but laughable when it comes to using it between platforms ... why would I or anyone else pay for the pro when there are so many bugs that cost time to figure out why SKU is not working properly ... good promises from SKU but until it proves it can do what it says it can, I dont think investing $$ is worth it ... have had multiple encounters with importing DWG into SKU and finding out line intersections are not properly translated which result in a headache ... even paying more to get the RUBY scripts to close line and intersect lines that cross did not help that much ... redrawing in SKU will make the thing work but in a professional setting, redrawing is not very professional ... I think it might be a good idea to have proper translators (DWG and PDF) for SKU to help ease concerns over these issues ... either dont make DWG translators available or when you do, make it work, so some one like me can feel comfortable paying the extra $$ to get the ProSKU
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? ronski 3/23/10 10:36 AM
Click on "Related discussions" on the top right of this page.

Ron
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? Anselmus 3/23/10 10:45 AM
Ozarakhsh,

Crappy DWG files translate into crappy imports. Are you 101% sure the lines are closed in AutoCad? What are you using to translate the 2010 files to 2007? Have you tried version 2004? You talk about importing PDF - are you using a Mac, or some other software to convert? The PDF format in itself is grossly inaccurate compared to DWG or SKP, so what you see might be related to that.

If you want to use version 2010 DWG files natively, you must stick to Autodesk-made software. I don't know yet of any third-party apps that support v.2010 files.

Anssi
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? John Bacus 4/14/10 10:37 AM
Hi guys,

Our goal with SketchUp Pro and LayOut is to give you a quick set of tools that help with design and design development phases of your work. I have seen folks extend their SketchUp Pro use into construction documentation and beyond, but typically they aren't working in a way that requires them to collaborate with partners who have standardized on Autodesk's tools.

That said, I do think it is important that we provide as much data transparency as we can to get your models both in and out of SketchUp. COLLADA is really shaping up to be a good solution to that problem, and we're pushing hard for its general adoption. Of course, that is a solution for the future– not a solution for legacy data.

DWG is a tough format for us. It is only through the efforts of the Open Design Alliance that we are able to support it at all. However, it is hugely important to our professional AEC customers– so we do work hard to make sure it works as well as it can. Follow the link below, and you can learn all about the "DWGdirect" library that we (and most of our non-autodesk peers) use to read and write DWG files in SketchUp.

The thing you have to remember when importing/exporting between ANY two file formats is that you're never really converting "apples" to "apples". Import/export is almost always a lossy process. For comparison, think about how sites like Google Translate work. If you convert from French to Spanish, you'll get a pretty reasonable result. But try converting from Japanese to English, and things get much more approximate.


john
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Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? Gaieus 4/14/10 1:49 PM
"For comparison, think about how sites like Google Translate work. If you convert from French to Spanish, you'll get a pretty reasonable result. But try converting from Japanese to English, and things get much more approximate."

For God's sake, I cannot even understand what Google translate says in Hungarian when translating from English!

Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? wo3dan 4/14/10 2:31 PM
Gaieus, you should never hold your text upside down when reading!
 
Wo3Dan
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? mathiasaberg 7/28/10 11:07 AM
Shame on you google guys, taking away the that option was so lame.
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? MVerruto 8/10/10 3:37 PM
SO, I have a very detailed site plan done by my surveyor of a 5 acre property with 6" topo demarkations and all physical features.... I cant seem to import it to SUPro w/o a total meltdown :)  Now of course I am a TOTAL newbie so of course i have not even done A THING to learn any of it yet, so don't YELL (*yet)  SOme questions: will SketchUP be able to model the topography *right* and to "scale" so that I can for example build the 3d model of the house, the pool and then see how to quickly block up guest and other outbuilding alternatives? THAT is what I was so EXCITED for.... THEN I do promise I will watch the tutorials anyone points to that head me in THAT direction.... 
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? John Bacus 8/10/10 3:43 PM
Hi MVerruto,

Sounds like a pretty big/complex DWG file, but I'm sure there's a way that you can work with it in SketchUp. Have a look at the video referenced below as a start, and then we can work from there.


john
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Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? marjorie.difiore 11/5/10 2:52 PM
Hi I am a design student and I love sketchUp but I am very disappointed that I can't import CAD files. I already download the free plugin and it is not longer there. It is anyway that I can get the free plugin again. I really need that plugin!
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? Gaieus 11/6/10 1:47 AM
Marjorie, there is another plugin to import dxf files below
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? John Bacus 11/8/10 2:03 PM
Hi Marjorie,

You might want to have a look at our SketchUp Pro for Students program, which gives you a full SketchUp Pro license at a dramatically reduced price. Check it out at the link below.


john
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Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? SUGOD 11/8/10 3:56 PM

[Warning: Flammable Comments Ahead!]  Before reading the following words be advised that i am in no way picking on anyone in particular. I have a huge respect for the folks involved in this thread. However I have "hinted" about this problem before but apparently the subject matter has fallen on deaf ears. So now i am going to be completely blunt.

I am very worried about the fact that we have folks within this community who feel that it is ok to make available functions in the "Free SketchUp" that are specifically targeted only for folks who purchase a Pro version of SketchUp. Yes I like to help my fellow SketchUppers just as much as the next fellow however i fear that as "Google Giveth" so too can "Google taketh away!". 

Specifically i am referring to Google "taking away" the scripting capabilities of the free SketchUp version! I do not want to lose this powerful feature of SketchUp just because a few "Greedy Eve's" could not stay away from the forbidden fruit tree. Your actions are going to cause Google to question if we are worthy of the freedom to write scripts in the free version.  

In my opinion it is not wise to make available, recommend, or release scripts that circumvent the usage of Google SketchUp Pro. If you are smart enough to achieve this capability on your own,  then i applaud you! However keep your achievements as your own dirty little secret and resist the temptation to cause further damage to the features of "SketchUp Free". I hope my words cause a much needed introspection within this community before it is too late.

Thank You.

Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? John Bacus 11/9/10 8:33 AM
Hi SUGOD,

We have no plans to remove access to the Ruby API in our free modeler.


john
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Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? SUGOD 11/9/10 8:56 AM

John Bacus said: """We have no plans to remove access to the Ruby API in our free modeler"""

Hello John, i always love when i can get info..."strait from the horses mouth"... pardon the expression :). Although i believe every word you say and i also believe that *you* believe every word you say i feel that in order to make your statement complete you need to append the words " -- at this time". Because as i know, company values, goals, and employees can change like the wind depending on the current market.

However the main question here is not what the current plans for removing the Ruby API are, whats most important is whether or not re-creating the functionalities of Google SketchUp Pro and releasing them to Google SketchUp Free users is something that Google is content with? That is the question. Yes we have the power to do these things and some would argue "Well if they did not want us to do this they would not have given us the power to do so" is dangerous way to think. We should just clear this up once and for all. And since you are pretty high on the old totem pole, you might be the perfect choice.

Thanks


Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? John Bacus 11/9/10 10:27 AM
Hi SUGOD,

I don't have any objection to folks writing dxf importers using either our Ruby API or our SDK. We make those interfaces available because we want them to be used. Some folks (like SYCODE) are building businesses out of selling import/export plugins for SketchUp. Others (like HonoluluDesktop) are doing it for the benefit of the community at large. I think SketchUp is a better and more useful product with all of these options available in addition to the importer we support for Pro users.

As I've stated before, writing a full dwg/dxf importer for SketchUp is a complicated project. It is greatly simplified by licensing one of the available libraries (like the ODA library that I mentioned above) though doing so adds cost to the development process. I think the plan to build and support a fully-functional dxf importer from scratch and for free is ambitious, but I don't have any objection to folks trying to make it work.


john
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Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? SUGOD 11/9/10 11:24 AM

John Said: """I don't have any objection to folks writing dxf importers using either our Ruby API or our SDK."""

Wow, i must say that everyday i am astounded by the generosity of Google!

So how far could this be taken John? What if someone were to create the functionality of dynamic components on a scale that rivals the SketchUp pro version and release it to the general public? Or Likewise release a free version of layout? Is this also acceptable behavior? I guess my reactions may be "learned behavior" from dealing with greedy companies/coders for years.

If the answer is yes, then i wonder why Google even has a Pro version anymore. Why not free the code base and let the community take this software to the next level (under the guidance of Google of course!!) We still need you and sudev, but allow the world a chance to contribute. You can say that "Well we sorta have that situation now" however that is not true. Real FLOSS supporters won't get evolved until the source code is made available. Just think of all the Linux experience this would bring to the table. Linux needs SketchUp in a very bad way!


Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? bonnronii 10/20/11 2:00 AM
how can i export dwg from AutoCAD to skp from my Sketchup 8?
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? Gaieus 10/20/11 3:53 AM
@bonnronii: read the topic above...

@all other participants: as I have just learned today, honoluludesktop has passed away. Too bad - he was a great contributor to the SU community (with or without his plugin).
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? wo3dan 10/20/11 4:52 AM
(About honoluludesktop's death),
I hardly know what to say.
My deepest symphaty to his family.
 
Wo3Dan
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? Anselmus 10/20/11 10:13 AM
That is too bad, his demise is indeed a big loss to the community.

Anssi
Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? John Bacus 10/24/11 8:56 AM
Sad news, indeed– I'll pass the news around to the SketchUp team today.

john
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Re: Why can't I import AUTOCAD files (.dwg) with Sketchup 7.1? Kelly L Holmes 3/15/13 8:24 AM
You can get around this. I could import cad into sketch up yesterday and now today... I cant!!
Even though I have been using sketch up 8 free now for a couple months, it has suddenly just stopped!
 
So when you get to this problem, you could always just open your cad drawing. Go to FILE > EXPORT > (save as .BMP!!!) SKETCHUP RECOGNISES BMP FILES > SELECT OBJECTS TO EXPORT > DONE!
 
now re open sketch up and import the bmp! Yes, its not as clear as a normal cad import but it is still to scale! Just draw around this as a template and then delete the export.
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