| Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | Jeff Playford | 04/12/14 08:39 | Hello
I am having problems with autoforwarding email from my gmail account to my iCloud account. I have set up the autoforward option, marking email as read, and done all the steps correctly (verifying the account, etc). I find that the odd email will be significantly delayed - for example, I will receive an email with Gmail at 10:32am. However, I notice that it doesn't get to iCloud until 10:42am. I could understand a one minute delay (or even 2) but the delays are experiencing are quite large. As well, they are only one random emails - some work fine, others not so much (often it is for emails like Promotions/Updated such as Groupon, Club Sobeys, or Reliance bills) Is anyone else having this issue? I have talked to Apple and they believe the issue may be on the sender's side. I can show you the headers of a message that I had a problem with this morning if it helps. I look forward to seeing if Google can help me understand why there is a delay. This is driving me nuts! Thanks, Jeff |
| Re: Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | bkc56 | 04/12/14 13:36 | We'd need to see the full headers from a message with a significant delay to even begin to guess where the delay might be happening. |
| Re: Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | Jeff Playford | 04/12/14 14:20 | Thanks bk. for responding, and I'm happy to provide a header.
I have a perfect example too - sent an email from my iPhone with my iCloud address to my gmail address. It should have been forwarded back to me at my iCloud address with the forwarding provision on and Apple's push service for iCloud. I sent the email at 12:56pm and got notice on my phone and iCloud at 1:04pm - pretty silly IMHO considering it was something I sent to myself, and not even a third party involved. Anyways, here is the header information. 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| Re: Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | bkc56 | 04/12/14 15:00 | I'm sorry, can you paste that so it's not one big blob. That's pretty much impossible to read. |
| Re: Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | Jeff Playford | 04/12/14 15:26 | Sorry that's how it copied/pasted - I didn't think twice of it.
X-Forwarded-fo...@gmail.com jjmpl...@icloud.com Delivered-to:...@gmail.com X-Forwarded-T...@icloud.com
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| Re: Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | bkc56 | 04/12/14 16:19 | That's better (at least readable). I see you are doing forwarding (as you mentioned), and the delay appears to be related to the forwarding. If you send a message directly to the iCloud account is it delayed, or does the delay only happen when sent to the Gmail account first? Where did you define the forwarding? Is it in the web-interface (https://mail.google.com/) or in some e-mail client/app? |
| Re: Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | Jeff Playford | 04/12/14 16:47 | Thanks bkc for the replies. Appreciate it.
If I send a message directly to the iCloud account from Gmail web, there is no delay. So I assume that it only happens if it involves the forwarding. I defined the forwarding on the web interface, and set it to also mark the messages as read on gmails side of things. Jeff |
| Re: Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | bkc56 | 04/12/14 22:01 | OK, I'm going to point Google at this thread and see if they can provide any enlightenment. If you have a second header from a different messages showing a delay, please post that so there are two examples to look at. |
| Re: Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | Jeff Playford | 05/12/14 04:45 | Ok here is one more header - the email was rec'd in gmail at 12:32pm and was not received until 12:37pm on my iCloud account, through forwarding.
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| Re: Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | bkc56 | 05/12/14 09:36 | Well that header has a totally different delay that takes place before it ever gets to your Gmail account:
Nothing you can do about that one. You might look for headers where the delay shows up after the forward like the first one you posted. But honestly, I wouldn't be worried about delays of a few minutes. A few hours would be worth more concern. |
| Re: Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | Jeff Playford | 05/12/14 09:50 | I think I realized after I posted that that one arrived in Gmail same time as iCloud and the delay was in both.
Totally agree, still confused as to why the first one was delayed though. Do you mind still passing this along to google? I have discussed with apple too and have an open case file with them, expecting a call back tonight. |
| Re: Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | bkc56 | 05/12/14 10:20 | Do you mind still passing this along to google? Already done. But Google's servers get busy, and small delays are not unreasonable. How long as this been going on? And what percentage are showing the delay before Gmail (like the second header) as opposed to between Gmail -> iCloud (as the first header)? |
| Re: Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | Jeff Playford | 05/12/14 10:45 | Thanks BKC. I don't have a large record of prior emails but I will start evaluating/tracking future ones on a go forward basis to see if there any common trends. So far, I have rec'd 5 emails in my main inbox in gmail, with all of them being on time in icloud. I have rec'd 3 other emails in my other categories on gmail and they have also all arrived on time. One thing that I have noticed - and I am still new to email headers and IMAP/etc - is that many emails will have larger time differences between when sent and when arrived. Even in my gmail account, an example would be that the email notifying me about updates to this very thread (as I am subscribed) arrived in my gmail inbox and icloud inbox at 1:05pm while the time stamp on the email says it was sent at 12:50pm. Is that noticeable delay? Since it is the same time between icloud and gmail I am aware that the issue wouldn't be forwarding but the intial send-action. Is a delay like that normal, especially from a Google notification to another google email account? That is more of a curious question than anything. I will keep watch of my emails and update daily if I see more delays or discrepancies between the gmail inbox time and the icloud inbox time on the phone and web interface. Thanks for all your help bkc - what is the best way to recongize your effort on this site? Upvoting each post that you have written in this topic? Jeff |
| Re: Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | bkc56 | 05/12/14 12:19 | Is that noticeable delay? It depends on the time zones and what the actual delay was. But if they are the same time zone meaning the delay was 15 minutes, I'd consider that starting to be significant. But still possibly just server congestion. Messages typically travel in seconds, but that's not guaranteed. On the other hand, hours usually means there was a problem. ... what is the best way to recongize your effort on this site? It doesn't really matter. But if you think one of the post provided the best information on your problem, you could click the "mark as best answer" to indicate it (at least partially) answered your question. |
| Re: Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | Jeff Playford | 08/12/14 08:06 | Noticed another email delay today - first one in a day or two. Email was rec'd in Gmail at 1036am while the icloud one was rec'd at 1044am (delay of 8 minutes). Here is the header from that email; Return-path: <nickxxxx...@gmail.com> Received: from st11p00mm-smtpin012.mac.com ([17.172.87.212]) by ms32524.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08 (7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTP id <0NG9008A...@ms32524.mac.com> for jjmpl...@icloud.com; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:44:10 +0000 (GMT) Original-recipient: Received: from mail-qg0-f52.google.com ([209.85.192.52]) by st11p00mm-smtpin012.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.33.0 64bit (built Aug 27 2014)) with ESMTPS id <0NG9006E...@st11p00mm-smtpin012.mac.com> for jjmpl...@icloud.com (ORCPT jjmpl...@icloud.com); Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:44:09 +0000 (GMT) Received-SPF: pass (st11p00mm-smtpin012.mac.com: domain of nickxxxx...@gmail.com designates 209.85.192.52 as permitted sender) receiver=st11p00mm-smtpin003.mac.com; client-ip=209.85.192.52; helo=mail-qg0-f52.google.com; envelope-from=nickxxxx...@gmail.com; Authentication-results: st11p00mm-smtpin012.mac.com; spf=pass (st11p00mm-smtpin012.mac.com: domain of nickxxxx...@gmail.com designates 209.85.192.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=nickxxxx...@gmail.com; Received: by mail-qg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id a108so3582506qge.39 for <jjmpl...@icloud.com>; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 07:44:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=uYy5jy7cdgVZU59/PG4yccvdq66WY9s8qJNdloZH5vw=; b=reeAZazvsMqUB4NeimeuSpNTRJIxGdrRqNTPo7eXsQgfHRH3zp/EemRZ6EmMGEHF1N yFuoVoiNh7vu+Sp3iowa5LT8BKMK7gwhhRJ8+znhR3nzzOp+yB6xnEgIMzP0Yzu8FX+R hLScl8ghbDcla+CFKDA/YjuomEyXFUi7rjqqjCpxUGprViUB2xyiV1A52Q7aqzhDx/fC SDkkmDHRqlEWRJ5q9idcasX4BL59na7bryi8lSQ1cSb0yqHb9Vbf5TXvMAQVjGvc0ggE bOMAHKkiss8zLXD/ZcnYUd00yrRLkqow0g33+3oURb3zbncB1YtvFMhELwuW/MBospmD 1esw== MIME-version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.101.145 with SMTP id u17mr5169724qge.84.1418052975217; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 07:36:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.21.74 with HTTP; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 07:36:15 -0800 (PST) In-reply-to: References: <BLU169-W12063493862F88EC2752A9796660@phx.gbl> <CAOotUaFjju=OpaHpsbrbvWBEvKzB+BomeefDjO2c5vRyFbH8sQ@mail.gmail.com> <48BCB7C1-110B-4F19-BA8A-54AFDF59AD78@icloud.com> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 10:36:15 -0500 Message-id: Subject: Re: Kingston Hotel From: Nick H <nickxxxx...@gmail.com> To: Jeff Playford <jjmpl...@icloud.com> Cc: "Devin" <devi...@gmail.com>, Jeff <jeff...@hotmail.com>, Anthony <antho...@hotmail.com>, "playfo...@gmail.com" <playfo...@gmail.com> Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c16bc6dc649e0509b62fbd Authentication-results: st11p00mm-smtpin012.mac.com; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=reeAZazv; dkim-adsp=pass x-icloud-spam-score: 33302230 f=gmail.com;e=gmail.com;is=yes;ir=no;pp=ham;spf=pass;dkim=pass;dmarc=?;wl=absent;pwl=absent;clxs=ham;clxl=absent
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| Re: Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | bkc56 | 08/12/14 10:37 | In this case the delay was in the hop before getting to Google's servers.
Another possibility here is that Google will sometimes rate-limit sending domains that are sending lots of spam to Gmail users which can result in small-medium delays. But I don't know how to tell if that's happening unless the sender gets a notification back. |
| Re: Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | Jeff Playford | 08/12/14 12:14 | As I'm still new to this, in learning what it means, what do you mean by delay was before getting to Google's servers. The initial sender has a gmail account, so it was sent from a gmail to gmail account (rec'd fine), then forwarded on to icloud (delay). I would assume that the sender didn't get a notification back otherwise I would have heard from him. Sorry for the additional questions, I do appreciate your help! |
| Re: Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | bkc56 | 08/12/14 12:39 | The initial sender has a gmail account... My apologies, you're correct. The delay does appear to be very early in the sending and within Google's servers. But every example you can post will be helpful to Google when then (finally) respond to my help request. |
| Re: Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | Andy B. | 11/12/14 10:36 | Hi Jeff, Andy from Google here. We looked into this and found the following error message occurring two times for that message that eventually delivered: "TEMP_FAILURE: #1: Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain icloud.com by mx1.mail.icloud.com. The error that the other server returned was: Temporary lookup failure: jjm**...@icloud.com" So it appears it's an issue with one of icloud's mail servers, a "temporary lookup failure", to that particular address when we are trying to deliver the message. Went ahead and double-checked on our side as well, and we haven't been experiencing any message delivery issues that would lead to this delay. Hope this is helpful, and thanks Brett for raising! Andy |
| Re: Delay in forwarding email from Gmail to iCloud | Jeff Playford | 11/12/14 10:51 | Thanks Andy and bck (Brett) for helping to diagnose what my issue is. I really appreciate both of you taking the time to help me figure this out. I will take the results back to the open Apple Care case I have and escalate it to the proper level of support. I think this will conclude my posting on this thread, have a great holiday season to both of you! Jeff |