|Strange sights in the sky?||ZhingHong||8/23/07 4:18 AM|
a palce in the sky coverd with a black layer??
what could it be??
first and only arabic google earth community www.zhinghong.com
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Felippo||8/23/07 5:28 AM|
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||TheLedge||8/23/07 5:30 AM|
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||ZhingHong||8/23/07 5:48 AM|
I don't think so, take a look at this star (attachment) which i think that it proves that half of the image is hiddin not missing
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||Frank4||8/23/07 8:18 AM|
Politicians in an alien government have caused Google to censor this image! They don't want anyone seeing their secret government planetary systems with giant palaces. :-)
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||ZhingHong||8/23/07 9:47 AM|
it is possible
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||AlbertoConti||8/23/07 1:28 PM|
It's simply a missing plate! It will likely be corrected in the next version!!!!
Dr. Alberto Conti Space Telescope Science Institute
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||julian121243||5/13/08 10:05 PM|
they are hidding planet x there
the government has told google earth to take it off
reserch planet x
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||cookiesonsteve||6/25/08 1:13 AM|
Yeah, google Nibiru.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||timo420k||8/11/08 7:34 AM|
this black layer doesn't exist in microsoft's worldwide telescope and i can't see no niburu there either..
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||drozdu||9/17/08 3:55 AM|
I can't do it like U write it :/
I can't see the prev also.....
Can sb help me to see what's behind?
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||notalliswatitseems||10/28/08 7:12 PM|
o.k did what you said and it tells me that there is no result to this location why don't you try it again and for easy ref (5h 53m 27s, -6 10' 58') just of the orion system,this code give to me by a very good contact in E.S.A. when the first sighting of the object was seen by N.A.S.A 1984 and sept 07 they now acknowledge the object to be there but say they dont know what it is, so july 08 Vatican pay observatory station in the arctic for N.A.S.A. and SETi to make heads or tails of this object; problem sept 08 pic removed from E.S.A site leave me an empty area to look at maybe you weren't lookin in the right area???
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||Br0wnb3rry||12/10/08 4:28 PM|
its been years now.... wheres the next version?
waiting till 2012 for it?
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||DwarfbrownStar||12/13/08 11:59 PM|
Hi i've just seen a smaller hidden part of the space at RA 5h52m28.04s Dec -6°07'37.14'' wonder what is there ..
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||DwarfbrownStar||12/14/08 12:26 AM|
Galactic center blocked also?
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||MilleRacer69||1/3/09 3:23 AM|
It is Nibiru, the planet that "doesn't exist". The gov made 'em block it out so people won't freak out,
this video explains all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgZRHnx_y2I&feature=related
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Hill||1/3/09 8:10 PM|
????? It still seems to be there.
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|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||Markopolo||1/5/09 6:27 PM|
Hello and welcome to GoogleSky!!!
There is a collection of GoogleSky data problems already discovered, discussed, and posted about HERE, which doesn't show a picture of empty sky (4th error on the list). There's no point in showing pictures of empty sky.
So, to summarize this thread, from what I can tell, ZhingHong discovered a piece of missing data in the GoogleSky imagery. ARCos2K correctly pointed out that the data missing from the GoogleSky imagery can be found in other astronomical data collections, such as Aladdin, and he even created links to that very Aladdin data, the data missing from GoogleSky. Hill also correctly posted an image showing that nothing is covered up or missing from the GoogleSky data near the galactic center.
All is well. This is a Google website, and I won't be a shill for other people's products, but suffice to say that there are many, many different products which use a variety of data to show the night sky. Hint: NASA, SIMBAD, or Google up "astronomical viewer".
If GoogleSky isn't showing a particular piece of the sky, let's assume that the reasons are benign, like, for example, they don't have the data. If somebody else has the missing data, and if a third, independant party has the same data as the second, which is missing from GoogleSky, then let's assume there's no conspiracy. Occam's Razor.
One of the things that I like best about GoogleSky (and Google Earth) is that they encourage me to use my brain to make sense of what I'm seeing. Can I figure out what is going on in the world and universe around me with this magnificent viewing tool? Or should I remain in the Dark Ages and assume that anything that is not immediately understandable must be caused by demons, witches, evil spirits, aliens, and government cover-ups? My choice is to use my brain to try and understand things.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Markopolo||1/6/09 8:42 AM|
One more thing...even in GoogleSky, we have the ability to verify that nothing exceptionally weird is happening at the location of ZhingHong's placemark. The missing data is in the VISIBLE portion of the spectrum. GoogleSky also has all-sky imagery in other wavelengths, and we can use that imagery to see that nothing is out of the ordinary.
Try this: open ZhingHong's placemark to get the reference point of missing (visible-wavelength) data we wish to examine. Now, click the checkbox next to "IRAS Infrared Sky", which is in the "Featured Observatories" collection in the lower left hand corner of GoogleSky. Double-click ZhingHong's placemark in your "Temporary Places" to take you back to the reference point we're looking at, and you can see that that portion of the sky looks very much like any other portion of the sky in the infrared wavelengths. No mystery planets, no missing data, no alien bases.
You can repeat the process using GoogleSky's "WMAP Microwave Sky" data collection to see that nothing is out of the ordinary in the microwave portion of the spectrum at that location, either.
Two different data collections, nothing missing, nothing unusual. Mystery solved.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||flybd5||1/6/09 6:56 PM|
Just a star cruising along. MSWW has the plate.
|Sky view: Weird laser beams!||madlogik||8/23/07 9:01 PM|
Can anyone tell me what those are?madlogik at gmail dot com
|Re: Sky view: Weird laser beams!||MichaelEmbrich||2/21/08 1:39 PM|
God playing laser tag. No, but my guess is a reflection on the satellite camera lenses??
|Re: Sky view: Weird laser beams!||ariefsyu||12/3/08 5:05 PM|
sorry guys, i lost my pen. it happened yesteday. maybe i drop it when i had a space trip. It wont be happen again. promise.
|Sirius A and Sirius B blacked out?||elboertjie||8/27/07 2:29 AM|
I notice that Sirius A and Sirius B has been removed from Google Sky.
Are they hiding an alien specie that lives there?
|Re: Sirius A and Sirius B blacked out?||TheSeerMagus||9/5/07 4:43 PM|
This is indeed interesting, and I'm wondering why it's "covered/blacked-out."
Sirius is one of the nearest stars to our solar system so we can definitely capture high resolution, high quality images.
I've recently read a whole host of interesting information regarding Sirius and my mind is beginning to jump to conspiracy!
For any of you guys in the know, could you please postulate or tell us why it's covered?
I really don't know.
|Re: Sirius A and Sirius B blacked out?||Harald2008||8/5/08 1:33 AM|
Why is Sirius hide???!!!
|Alien craft approachin from vicinity of HD47767||eric_goodwin||9/1/07 1:00 AM|
Longitudinally oriented visible wavelength shadow exposure cast exponentially due to presence of remote alien landing craft.
|Re: Alien craft approachin from vicinity of HD4776||blobrana||9/1/07 6:10 PM|
This maybe an `Easter Egg`
|Re: Alien craft approachin from vicinity of HD4776||bebop||9/2/07 1:58 AM|
|Re: Alien craft approachin from vicinity of HD47767||ComicSketches||1/28/08 7:07 PM|
I couldn't understand. Would you please say that again in simpler terms? Thank you,
Always Smile When You're Feelin' Down Just to Make Yourself Feel Better! : ) Have a Wonderful Day!
|Blue stuff||ndgomes||12/29/07 9:19 AM|
That weird stuff! What is it? UFO spaceship?
|Re: Blue stuff||Nhodesign||9/10/08 7:44 PM|
i dont know maybe is gas form?
|Some alien planet looking thing with halos?||xentica||2/17/08 5:35 AM|
I was looking for the andromeda galaxy and the the very same moment
as it was taking me to andromeda i saw a blue sphere shape.
So I zoomed in on it and what I saw was weird..
Looks like a blue half invisible planet (look closely and you'll see that it's in 3D too) Its got a halo behind it, not that clear but you can see it.
Search NGC 685 in Sky and look to the right, I've tagged it so people can find it (Y)
|Re: Some alien planet looking thing with halos?||Markopolo||3/5/08 8:43 PM|
Why did you not create a placemark and put it in your post, so we could find your object?
|Re: Some alien planet looking thing with halos?||lixipixi||3/9/08 4:40 PM|
Wow! It looks like an amazing reflection of a satellite to me! Nice find!
(Sorry - although I have it placemarked, I don't know how to add it into a "reply") It's directly northeast (roughly 2 o'clock) from NGC 685. Zoom out a farther distance from NGC 685, as the blue sphere is VERY large in comparison. You can't miss it
|Re: Some alien planet looking thing with halos?||PirateChipmunk||3/20/08 7:56 PM|
I'm not a space freak but i'd say it's just a refelction of a space craft
|Re: Some alien planet looking thing with halos?||Hill||7/3/08 11:07 PM|
This is an imagery flaw produced by reflections of the internal parts of the telescope, specifically structures called spiders that support the secondary mirror.
See this post.
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|Why is Sirius hide/painted over??||Harald2008||8/5/08 1:11 AM|
|Strange Star||TribalWulf87||8/9/08 6:04 PM|
A very strange two colored star near Orion, shaped like a ying yang. It might be possable that its just a solar flare, but its interesting none the less.
|Wave of light in space.||TribalWulf87||8/9/08 6:10 PM|
A very strange wave of energy/light can be seen here. It almost looks as if its glare from a blue stare near by. Eather way its an interesting fanomanom.
|Sun with brown expanding inner ring.||TribalWulf87||8/9/08 6:37 PM|
There might be nothing at all special about this star, but I've never seen one like this before. It has a yellow core and a brownish ring possably expanding twords the stars edge, and a yellow outer ring.
|Re: Sun with brown expanding inner ring.||ChrisHeinz||8/15/08 4:34 PM|
This one is definitely odd looking. Probably not a star, most stuff without the 4 points is a galaxy. Ring looks like some photographic effect, but, why just this one galaxy?
|Black ring star||TribalWulf87||8/9/08 9:00 PM|
This star appears to have a black ring around it.
|Mysterous Blue Object in space||TribalWulf87||8/9/08 9:35 PM|
This is a mysterous object I came across. It is a flat blue streched out oval object. It cant be a line of stars because there is no light flare and no overlapping. It is solid.
|Re: Mysterous Blue Object in space||ChrisHeinz||8/15/08 12:27 PM|
This post lists most of the well-known artifacts you can find in Google Sky.
Unfortunately, the telescopes, cameras, etc that are used to create GS are not perfect. Additionally, they sometimes capture satellites, airplanes, and other stuff that are not natural.
Yours appears to be a "worm".
I'm not sure about your two "ring stars". Let's see if anyone else has anything to say on those.
|Strange red box in the sky||Jeremy219||8/21/08 7:15 AM|
What is this box? Why is it in the sky?
|Re: Strange red box in the sky||Hill||8/21/08 1:35 PM|
Please see this post about data errors in Google Sky.
|Alienman Call Beacon||dnissan||9/29/08 9:25 PM|
What is that? A silhouette of a satellite that got in the way of the picture? I would say it's artificial (in that it's more of a technical error than anything else) due to its symmetry.
Still a pretty cool find!
|Re: Alienman Call Beacon||Hill||9/30/08 11:19 AM|
GE and GSky have introduced errors in a small part of their imagery. Examples of these errors are collected and explained here. Its a good collection to look at when you find really weird imagery.
|Re: Alienman Call Beacon||dnissan||9/30/08 6:56 PM|
Ah, well that thoroughly explains my mystery. Thanks.
|Three faces in one star (PICS)||Starfinder||10/16/08 4:20 PM|
Alright so I found this browsing around google sky with a friend and its kinda creepy to say the least. I've looked at hundreds of other stars around this one and I cant find anything even close to having anything that looks like a face at all not to mention theres three of them right next to each other.
The stars name is A Lyn
What do you guys think ??
|Re: Three faces in one star (PICS)||ChrisHeinz||10/17/08 4:47 PM|
The human visual system has dozens-hundreds of hardwired neural circuits to recognize things that at some point increased the evolutionary fitness of the species. And these circuits just love to get fired.
Face recognition is a well-known hardwired brain area -- it's one of those those things that you can get a brain injury in just the right place and wind up with a person who says "Hmm, two big dots, a vertical thing with two small dots at the bottom, a horizontal slit below that -- what is it?" -- see for example Oliver Sacks "The Man Who Mistook His Wife For A Hat".
Another one I notice on a regular basis is, driving on an interstate at night, particularly if you're tired, all evergreens 4-8 feet tall look like people standing at the side of the road.
So, the faces are a very understandable cognitive illusion. There are numerous books on cognitive illusions, for example "Inevitable Illusions", by Piattelli-Palmarini.
|What is this???||Syn7||10/23/08 7:32 PM|
is it camera glare??? it most definately doesnt belong...
zoom in to NGC685... its a blue
transparent type of image... what is that???
|Re: What is this???||ChrisHeinz||10/24/08 5:44 PM|
Thanks for posting!
You are right, this is an "artifact", and not something that's really in the sky.
There are a number of flavors of these, here's a post that describes most of them:
People still find new types of artifacts -- but they also find cool real stuff, like this "comet getting ready to collide with a galaxy": http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/994227/an/0/page/39
|Re: What is this???||Syn7||11/5/08 9:05 PM|
hey thanx for the response... appreciated... i'll check that out...
|Re: What is this???||Syn7||11/5/08 9:29 PM|
ah ok its called "pies"... so they explain the crosshair effect as caused by "spiders" but that doesnt explain what the blue stuff is...???
|Unidentified item||Gladi8or2||12/8/08 1:21 PM|
Does anybody know what this is?
|Re: Unidentified item||ZaberNS||12/9/08 3:54 PM|
It is clearly a Giant Space Turtle....really, I have no clue..
|Re: Unidentified item||LC423||12/9/08 9:16 PM|
It looks like a colored contact...
How did you find this?
|Re: Unidentified item||Gladi8or2||12/10/08 6:17 PM|
was just checking that area of space out when It came across my screen. I thought it was strange not being identified and fairly close to HD 71433.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Sage of the Night||1/23/09 11:44 AM|
The fact that it still remains there months later when I know for a fact (cause I checked up on it) that Google has done recent sceduled updates and it would have corrected the problem. I used to work in intelligence for the military and there are several reasons this could still be here. the most likely being we have something up there we don't want our enemies to see. The military has been censoring google for years now. Its just the way things are. As for the other sites that show whats behind this, they take more disjointed images, not as stremlined as google, and could very well have missed it in that instance. They also don't do regular updates like google does. You could be looking at a piece of sky from 30 years ago lol
|Reflection?||DarthStar||1/25/09 7:22 AM|
I apologize if this has been posted before or particularly recently... but I found something that I can only guess is a reflection. Anyone able to explain? =P
*edit* Sorry... Here it is --- >
|Re: Reflection?||Markopolo||1/26/09 10:16 AM|
Definitely a reflection. Towards the bottom of the GE Community Forums is one called, "Data Discussions". In that folder is a collection called "Sky Data Problems - Compendium 4". In that discussion, the 6th item from the top is called a "Pie", although it matches your reflection perfectly.
Google Earth and Google Sky have a variety of data errors, most of which are collected and catalogued in the Data Discussions area.
|What is this? Never seen anything like it.||flybd5||2/1/09 1:04 PM|
I have never seen anything like this before. Is it not listed as an object in any catalog, and appears to be a recent image, because only Google Earth and MS WWO have it. I can't find it anywhere in any other images in any repository, and it is NOT a visual artifact of the image, because it's leaving a trail way behind it that partially obscures another star far away!
Ask Google Sky to take you here: RA 11:27:56.08, DEC 2:57:42.77
You think this is a visual artifact of the star below?
Think again, look here: RA 11:29:09.0, DEC 2:57:52.7
That sure looks like a star partially obscured by a trail left by that object. There's no way the other larger star below the object is going to create a visual artifact this far away from itself, it's too much of a stretch.
Whatever it is, it's definitely moving and leaving tracks as it does so.
|Re: What is this? Never seen anything like it.||flybd5||2/2/09 5:18 AM|
Found it. It's an error in one of the Sloan plates used to put together the image. Specifically, the green one. That's why it shows as a green object.
|what is it?||drapalu||2/23/09 2:52 PM|
In first,I'm french, so, you must escuse my not perfect english.
Few days ago i started google sky and i found this, do you know wath is it ?
|Re: what is it?||drapalu||2/24/09 1:21 PM|
please tell me if you know what it is, and tell me if you don't know.
|The Borg on google earth||Tyler.Dreger||2/24/09 6:05 PM|
LOL to funny....Although I am sure someone will call me an idiot...I am sure others will find this as funny as me
|Re: The Borg on google earth||Hill||2/24/09 10:39 PM|
Welcome to the Google Earth Community,Tyler
See this post for an explanation.
|Re: what is it?||Markopolo||2/25/09 8:31 PM|
Hello, and welcome to Google Sky!
Have you looked in the Data Discussions forum? These kinds of overexposures, internal reflections, CCD errors, etc. are discussed HERE.
|Re: what is it?||CZ__Michal__||2/27/09 10:04 AM|
help me please, WHAT IS THIS THAT IS IN SPACE RA 6h39m09.08s - Dec 8°45"06.64 PLease write in my mail...thanks
|Re: what is it?||Markopolo||2/27/09 11:57 AM|
It is item 2261 in the New General Catalog, usually written NGC 2261, and also called "Hubble's Variable Nebula". See THIS link for additional information about this peculiar and interesting nebula.
Originally Posted By: CZ__Michal__
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||Markopolo||3/21/09 9:53 AM|
I went to the DSS website HERE and obtained the missing data. You can do the same for yourself, but I've saved it in the overlay below
|UFO in sky||Kevin Bender||3/22/09 7:36 PM|
I found another UFO Location is in the sky view. Location is (RA 11h 17m 29.56s DEC -32degrees 20'04.86")
|Re: Unidentified item||Nogard2012||3/22/09 8:56 PM|
looks like the top of a turtle shell from the Mario games to me
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|Re: UFO in sky||Markopolo||3/23/09 9:36 AM|
Did you enter the coordinates correctly? I saw only normal sky at the coordinates you gave.
Perhaps you could learn how to post a placemark, it's much faster and more accurate than trying to enter a RA and Dec set of coordinates.
|Re: Unidentified item||Markopolo||3/23/09 9:40 AM|
Check the "SKY Data Problems Compendium" thread HERE. Look at the second series of error types, "Internal Reflections". I think that's what you've found.
|Re: Alien craft approachin from vicinity of HD4776||Markopolo||3/25/09 6:56 PM|
Here is an overlay containing the same area of the sky, but without the stupid internal reflection from the observing telescope in the blue wavelengths...this is a clean image of the sky in that area.
|Space freaks||Kamarado Andrey||4/1/09 12:36 AM|
Various anomalies in space.
|Re: Space freaks||Kamarado Andrey||4/1/09 12:52 AM|
Blue ray near Aquarius.
|Green rag||Kamarado Andrey||4/1/09 12:59 AM|
Green rag near Aquarius. Most likely malfunctions of the equipment or a transfer error.
|Re: Space freaks||Kamarado Andrey||4/1/09 3:54 AM|
There is related professional thread yet.
|Re: Space freaks||BluStar||4/1/09 7:30 AM|
in the sky you can find lots of anomalies It does not include interesting astronomical discoveries
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||Valiko89||4/4/09 2:37 PM|
but what the point its probably "photochopped" already
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||Markopolo||4/4/09 3:17 PM|
How do you know everything isn't already "photochopped", including all the Google Earth and Google Sky imagery, much less the DSS? How do we believe anything is real? How do you know that when you go out and look up at the night sky, somehow "THEY" have rigged it to appear like you're looking at stars? What if "THEY" are reptilians living here among us? What if I'M ONE OF THEM?
Just kidding, I'm really not. Promise, I'm really, really not an alien. Seriously, I'm not. Pinky swear. Ahem.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||Diane9247||4/5/09 12:17 AM|
Oh. You mean - they haven't? Thanks a lot, Markopolo. You have just ruined my faith in the power of those who plot against me.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||Hill||4/5/09 8:37 PM|
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||JavaGAR||4/6/09 4:42 AM|
I used to work in intelligence for the military and there are several reasons this could still be here. the most likely being we have something up there we don't want our enemies to see.
Well, then I hope our enemies don't happen to have any of these, considering that the actual sky is rather exposed, one might say.
A group of Newtonian Telescopes at Perkins Observatory, Delaware, Ohio. Photo from Wikipedia: Telescope.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||TomKjeldsen||4/6/09 8:05 AM|
Originally Posted By: Markopolo
"photochopped"... no matter what, every image in the world (and sky) is "ajusted" to some (varying) degree before getting to you eye, in GE or any other product, like in your own digital camera. This "black hole" should/could in my view, be perceived in the same way as the result of your camera's "red eye removal"... Different cameras do different "red eye removal"... Nowadays, dont take any image for what is looks like!
What I worry about is whether Markopolo is Earthling or Alien?!
To learn how the Google Earth Community works with postings and replies, read the great post "Advice for New Members" - To learn how to create and handle placemarks in attached kml/kmz files, read "Placemarks and Overlays (Basic Training)" - In general you find a lot of good advice on using Google Earth in the "Collected Google Earth Wisdom" forum and via the links at the top of every forum page "FAQ · KML Reference · GE Guide · Help Group"
The TomKjeldsen Google Earth (GE) files - Also available and downloadable at ge.dooley.dk aka dooley.dk/ge.htm
Have a nice google earth tour... Let's explore!
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||Markopolo||4/6/09 9:01 AM|
"Under the 5th Amendment to the Galactic Constitution, I respectfully refuse to testify about the planet of my birth on the grounds that the testimony might tend to incriminate me."
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||Diane9247||4/6/09 9:52 AM|
Tom - Perhaps you've missed Markopolo's autobiography, My Life on Earth . It's a real page-turner! The photos are wonderful:
Marko as an infant (he cannot reveal his birthplace because he doesn't know it! ):
1993 photo shows young space alien baby in intensive care facilities shortly after it was rescued from a UFO crash site. Source!
As a toddler, practicing the alien walk:
College days - assimilating quite well! He even had a swimming scholarship!
And was involved in theater. He's front, center:
Here he is today, still on Earth, fighting fires and social injustice at the same time:
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||streetdreams||4/6/09 10:03 AM|
Pinky promise J-Rod?
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||TomKjeldsen||4/6/09 10:50 AM|
Originally Posted By: Markopolo
Granted! This is a free universe and I fully respect this ali../earthling's right to not state anything about it's origin
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||TomKjeldsen||4/6/09 11:03 AM|
Originally Posted By: Diane9247
Tom - Perhaps you've missed Markopolo's autobiography, My Life on Earth . It's a real page-turner! The photos are wonderful...
Indeed! Incredible! Diane, among 1000 other capabilities you are also the background researcher of the Markopolo merits. I'm impressed, stunned and just have to appreciate being allowed to read this. I must admit you guys (and Diane :-)) in here make the most fantastic posts! like this! Thanks!
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||Diane9247||4/6/09 7:43 PM|
Pinky promise J-Rod?
Tom - Thanks for encouraging this foolishness.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||zmaster1||4/19/09 11:33 AM|
how do you post locations that everyone can see i found an awsome spiral galaxy.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||Markopolo||4/19/09 2:17 PM|
Hello, zmaster, and welcome to Google Sky (Google Earth, too)!
The specific answer you're looking for can be found HERE, which will help you learn how to create and post a placemark.
For further learning, you might want to start in the "Support and Answers" area, there are several informational fora that will help you get started. Look at "Answers to Frequently Asked Questions" and "Collected Google Earth Wisdom"
It also helps to be able to use the "Search" function in the menu bar on top of this window.
Good luck and best wishes! Have fun.
|What do you think?||Nxtr1114||4/22/09 4:38 PM|
Alright guys... This has got me going.. Found a planet today in the same area around 581c.. Have to see if this is a blinking planet if it is it will probably get nasa looking at it..
You guys tell me what you think it is....
|Re: What do you think?||Nxtr1114||4/22/09 4:58 PM|
It looks like an Earth-Like planet.. But this maybe a problem with the telescope.. You can see the blue which looks like ocean then you see shades of green that looks like land..
I sat for about 2-3 hours just looking at this thing.. The only thing i see wrong is no moons or moon... Unless it's on the other side of the planet..
|Re: What do you think?||Nxtr1114||4/22/09 6:11 PM|
The auto coords to the section is messed up here's a non-messed up one..
|Re: What do you think?||Markopolo||4/22/09 10:38 PM|
I'm not really sure I even understand what you're saying, Nxtr. I have no clue what "581c" is, or what a "blinking" planet is. And to boot, are you saying you've found a new planet in our own Solar System, or are you saying that you believe you're seeing a planet in orbit around another star? What makes you think this is a planet, anyway? Have you detected it's motion? Have you calculated an orbit? Using Google Sky's imagery?
Or are you just saying that because this object is blue and green and round, it must be an Earth-like planet because everything in the sky that is blue and green and round is an Earth-like planet?
There are many, many, many things that this object could be. A poor quality image of an ordinary star taken with unknown filters (most likely, IMHO), a planetary nebula, an error in the data, a distant galaxy, these are some of the possible candidates.
One of the things that I'm sure that it is not is a planet. If it was in our own Solar System, somebody would have found it by now. The only things left undiscovered in our own Solar System are comets, asteroids, and Kuiper Belt and Oort Cloud objects, none of which would have the blue and green of liquid water and photosynthetic plants. If it is in another Solar System, the angular resolution of the Google Sky imagery is not nearly accurate enough to render a surface image, by several orders of magnitude. Even the Hubble Space Telescope can barely make out a grainy image of the surface of Pluto, and that only after lots of computer enhancements.
The idea of imaging the surface of a planet is active among astronomers, and they're working towards making that a possibility. However, they're several years, perhaps a decade, away from making that a reality. The idea that a planet is somehow visible in Google Sky imagery (dime-store quality, relative to professional astronomical images and methods) is not realistic.
Detecting an extrasolar planet is possible now, by a variety of different methods. See THIS Wiki article. Detecting a planet by it's gravitational effect on the host star, it's spectrum, or it's polarization, or because it's in an eclipsing orbit around it's star, are all possible, but none of these methods renders an image. Generating an actual, direct image of the surface of an Earth-sized planet is at least a generational step in the technology.
It is cool that you're showing an interest in things astronomical. Keep looking, keep reading, keep learning. And have fun, too.
|Re: What do you think?||Nxtr1114||4/23/09 4:30 AM|
No need to flame...
Yes this is outside of our solor system, and you say that you don't know what 581c is..
Now, when your done.. I would like another reply on what you think...
Blinking planet... It's when a planet is orbiting another just like Earth doing the merry-go-round in our solor system...
Blinking came from when the planet cuts in between the heat mass that is spinning around upon...
( Get a flash light, turn on the flash light.. Wave your hand in-front of the light and remove it... )
I'm just 15, So if my english is off you've got the point...
|Re: What do you think?||Markopolo||4/23/09 10:32 AM|
Okay, now we're talking. "581c" = Gliese 581c, I got that. "Blinking" planet = eclipsing orbit, got that also.
Didn't mean to flame, other than to say that the mechanics of detecting a planet in Google Sky imagery are still the same as I described above. Lots of people make incredible claims about various fantastic things in the Google Sky and Google Earth imagery, and unless there's some reason to support those claims, they remain fantasies. If you've read the Lord of the Rings, you'll know that "Not all that glitters is gold".
In the case of your placemark, you'd need to show the distance, mass, and motion of the planet over time to calculate an orbit, and/or a spectrograph, a chart of the polarized light, etc., plus show the details of the observing instrument, filters, time and place of imagery, etc., etc., etc.
Although it's impressive how many stars and galaxies it contains when you "zoom" in, the Google Sky imagery is fairly coarse relative to professional astronomical data. Compare the quality of some of the Hubble imagery (which you can turn on with a button in the "Hubble Showcase" folder in the "Featured Observatories" area in the lower left-hand corner of the Google Sky window), to the quality of the imagery in the area around your placemark.
There is simply no way that an Earth-like extrasolar planet would be visible in the standard Google Sky imagery like in an area you've placemarked. It's very cool to browse and wonder and even hope, but to assert that you've found an extrasolar planet requires a lot of supporting documentation. In that way, others can verify that your claim is actually correct, or disprove it as unsubstantiated.
The way that science works is that someone puts forward a hypothesis ("Found a planet today..."), and the entire scientific community subjects that claim to the scrutiny required to independently reproduce the results of the hypothesis. In that way, we can know for certain, or at least until proven differently, that gravity actually follows Einstein's hypothesized rules of relativity vs. Newton's rules of orbital mechanics, that organisms actually do evolve, etc.
So, now that you know I think you haven't found a planet, I'll repeat from my earlier post what I think you have found: A poor quality image of an ordinary star taken with unknown filters (most likely, IMHO), a planetary nebula, an error in the data, a distant galaxy, these are some of the possible candidates.
I would love to see uncontestable proof of another Earthlike planet, with liquid water, oxygen in the atmosphere, and photosynthetic life, all verifiable with spectrography. I've read science fiction ever since I was your age, and the thought of space travel, other kinds of life, etc. has always thrilled me. On the other hand, I remain a pragmatist. I'm not from Missouri, but you need to "Show me" the proof.
|Re: What do you think?||Markopolo||4/23/09 12:21 PM|
Now that is what I'm talking about. Nice, ARCos2K.
With the overlay toggled on and off and on and off, you can see that there is an object in motion in the imagery. Exactly what that object is remains to be defined. Do we know what that object is, ARCos2K?
|Look! its the DEATH||Berendniels||5/1/09 8:44 AM|
well actualy, its his face.. or is it just my imagination?
i think thats enough information to see it.
|StarX||BluStar||5/1/09 2:56 PM|
Stella a X
|Strange star||BluStar||5/1/09 4:21 PM|
I found an strange star with a long ray
Today I finished exploring
|Re: Strange star||Markopolo||5/2/09 12:14 PM|
Image defect. The long ray is part of the imagery, not part of the star.
|Strange sights in the sky?||Hill||5/2/09 4:26 PM|
Before you post in this forum it is a really good idea to read this excellent compendium of errors that sometimes show up in the Google Sky database. Telescope parts, overexposed images, missing data, and other things cause these spurious images.
In an attempt to clean up this forum and to concentrate on astronomy rather that imagery errors, this thread will be used for a collection of all data imagery questions. If you suspect that what you have found is an error and not evidence of a coming alien attack or vast government conspiracy you can post and ask about it in this forum. If it is an error it will be moved to this thread. If it is a new error, it will be moved to the compendium thread. If it is a true unknown, it will stay in this forum as its own thread.
Because these posts are merged to an existing thread, it is best to view this thread in "threaded" rather than "flat" mode.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Mystery55||5/16/09 2:23 AM|
I found what looks like a space ship
looks best when viewing from the east
|borg cube||kroktheweak||5/29/09 6:50 AM|
found an image glitch on sky mode that looks like a borg cube
|a borg ship?||rkingpin||6/2/09 3:44 AM|
square shaped borg spacecraft
|near sirius||davidduchovny||6/11/09 5:12 PM|
hi i ave found something strangeier
the truth is out there
|Re: near sirius||Markopolo||6/11/09 5:18 PM|
That's a meteorite, David. You can tell by the pointy ends. It enters into the atmosphere, grows in intensity to a maximum, then fades away.
Oh, you forgot to put a placemark. Let me help you out.
|Re: Strange star||davidduchovny||6/11/09 5:41 PM|
|Re: Strange galaxy?||davidduchovny||6/11/09 6:04 PM|
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||WullieTraynor||6/12/09 8:53 AM|
Can anyone help me out with this one?
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||6/12/09 9:04 AM|
See your other post for a reply.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||WullieTraynor||6/12/09 12:17 PM|
i found this is it a galaxy?
thanx megan t aged 10
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||6/12/09 1:03 PM|
Whenever I have a question about what an astronomical object is, I usually look it up in one of several astronomical viewers. One of the easiest (and best) is SIMBAD, and HERE is the location of their coordinate look-up page.
You need to get the coordinates of the object in question, which is easy: In Google Sky, simply put the cursor (mouse pointer) precisely on top of the object. At the bottom of your Google Sky viewer, in white letters, are the coordinates. Coordinates are shown in the format like this:
RA 17h24m03.9s Dec -47 33'51.4"
Write down the numbers in that order. Then when you go to the SIMBAD viewer, enter the coordinates without any punctuation marks, just spaces between the numbers, like this:
17 24 03.9 -47 33 51.4
Then press the "Submit query" button on the lower left side of the screen. Bingo! You'll be presented with a page of information about the object, and links to even more information.
Good luck, Megan! Keep looking and learning.
|Bear||Luis M. Rodriguez-R||6/14/09 6:21 PM|
Beautiful puppy bear at Nebula M16
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||ozzmaster420||7/9/09 1:15 AM|
while searching around the coma berenices constalation. I found a few strange lines, too green and too red anyone have any info on them?
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||7/9/09 9:09 PM|
Is it in THIS collection, Ozz? Look at the Sky_Data_Problems_v6.0 file at the bottom of the first post.
I exchanged e-mails with STScI, where the imagery comes from, and they indicated that lines are typically generated by passing aircraft, satellites, and occasionally meteorites, and they're red, green, and blue because of the filters that the telescopes use.
P.S. If the lines you saw are not in the collection, post back here with a placemark, and I'll add them to the collection.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||threedesign||7/11/09 10:55 AM|
wow guys I like this screenshot...
I had not never seen null of the sort. this is my first time on this beautifulst forum...
sorry me for my english I am Italian
|Re: What do you think?||BluStar||7/21/09 7:21 AM|
What is it?
5h 40m 30 22s -7 29 05
|Re: What do you think?||Markopolo||7/21/09 2:15 PM|
The SIMBAD database shows it as part of an absorption (dark) nebula, with two identifiers: [TUK93]119, and LDN 1641S. TUK93 refers to a study of molecular clouds in Orion conducted in 1993 by K. Tatematsu, T. Umemoto, and O. Kameya. This would be the 119th object in that study. LDN is a collection of Dark Nebula by Lynds, not sure what the 1641S means.
Hope this gives you enough info to continue your search, if you're interested.
|Re: What do you think?||BluStar||7/22/09 7:50 AM|
ps Come fai a sapere tutte queste cose?? sei un mostro , dovresti lavorare alla Nasa
Approfitto della tua disponibilità
ieri ho esplorato Capella e ho visto diversi oggetti strani
esempio qui 5h 16m 18 43s - 46 20 37.93
Puoi darci un'occhiata anche tu?
How do you know all these things? you're a monster, you should work at Nasa
Advantage of your availability
Yesterday I explored Capella and I saw many strange objects
esempio qui 5h 16m 18 43s - 46 20 37.93
can give us a look too?
|Re: What do you think?||Markopolo||7/22/09 9:10 AM|
Not sure what you're looking at, BluStar. At the RA/Dec you've referenced, there's only a collection of non-descript stars. Are you referring to the two blue objects 0.04 degrees to the ENE?
Just a hint: it usually works faster and more accurately if you can post a placemark, rather than posting a Lat/Long or RA/Dec combination. If you append a placemark to your post, then everybody can simply click on the link, and Google Earth or Google Sky will take us to exactly the place you would like us to view, at the same orientation and level of zoom which you would like us to see. If you post Lat/Long or RA/Dec combinations, we have to search for those coordinates by copying and pasting, where mistakes can creep in, and perhaps the format you've entered is not searchable by Google Earth or Google Sky.
In your last post, you showed the RA/Dec as 5h 16m 18 43s - 46 20 37.93 and Google Sky couldn't find that location. When I put it in the format 5 16 18.43 -46 20 37.93, it is discoverable. Can you see the differences? No letters, you need a decimal between the 18 and the 43, and no space between the - and the 46. These are very small differences, but computers are very rigid in what they can recognize.
Please don't take this as criticism, just encouragement for you to learn more about Google Earth and Google Sky. If you're willing, HERE is a link to a short training course on how to make a placemark or overlay.
Good luck, best wishes, and I look forward to checking out your next placemark!
P.S. click on the .kmz link below and see if that is convenient.
|Re: What do you think?||Markopolo||7/22/09 10:09 AM|
Now here is the same position as a placemark with a different level of "zoom". Are the blue things what you're interested in? If so, they appear to be an error in the data. They are only present in one image (the blue filter) in the POSS2 Sky Survey from DSS, and nothing is visible in the red or infra-red images of the same area of the sky.
I'll add these to my collection of Sky Data Errors, which I've posted HERE.
|Re: What do you think?||BluStar||7/24/09 6:15 AM|
sorry Markopolo, forgive my mistake
DIC +46 !!!!!!!
this is what I am most curious
|Re: What do you think?||Markopolo||7/24/09 9:14 AM|
Hooray!!! Good job, BluStar. You've successfully learned the placemarking process, which is much easier and more accurate to share information in Google Earth (or Google Sky).
Now, on to your placemarks of concern...let me do a little research and see what I can come up with. Without any research, I can see that there are a couple of issues that you're dealing with:
First, the areas surrounding extremely bright stars like Capella are of dubious quality, simply because of the overwhelming brightness of the star. The contrast levels between the bright star and the surrounding dark sky are so great that the imagery cannot be processed well without masking the star with the equivalent of a coronagraph and the application of digital filtering, neither of which are present in any of the Google Sky imagery that I'm aware of.
Second, in several of your placemarks, you've "zoomed" in beyond the useful level of the quality of the data. Consider this: stars are point sources of light to observers on Earth, even at the highest magnification levels using the largest telescopes in the world. I think there are only a couple of projects which have successfully imaged the disk of a star (Betelgeuse, Altair, and perhaps a few others). HERE is a link to one of these projects. The point is, whenever you're using Google Sky, and you've "zoomed in" to the point where most of the stars have visible circular disks, such as the second of your images above, you're past the point of useful accuracy of data, and weird things are bound to happen.
Third, you've identified two separate small squares of missing data. This is not unusual at all, it has to do with the processing of the digital data, and there are several dozen of these in my collection of Google Sky errata located HERE. I'll add your two new locations to my collection.
Lastly, the DSS imagery comes from the digitization of actual photographic plates from the UK Schmidt or the Oschin Schmidt (Palomar) telescopes. Look HERE for an explanation of how the data is gathered and processed, under the "Exposure and Survey Information" tab. From the same page, this is a quote about Image Anomalies: "What's this funny line/feature/UFO in my scan?"
These images were scanned from photographic plates, so every once in a while, you will encounter a scratch, internal telescope reflection, fingerprint, etc. in your image. So far, none have turned out to be aliens. I'm compiling an informal catalog of regions with plate anomalies, so if you run across one, let us know.
After awhile, I'll do a little more detailed analysis on all of the placemarks you've posted, to see if there is anything seriously out of order other than what I've said above.
Good luck and have fun, BluSky!
|Re: What do you think?||BluStar||7/27/09 6:59 AM|
In sintesi non ho trovato niente di particolare
Non mi perdo d'animo prima o poi qualcosa troverò
Come sempre tante grazie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In summary I have found nothing special
I do not lose heart sooner or later find something
As always many thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|What the heck is this?||Louisdv||8/3/09 1:47 PM|
|Re: What the heck is this?||Markopolo||8/3/09 3:40 PM|
Hello, Louis, and welcome to Google Sky.
You've found an internal reflection inside the telescope which took the image of that portion of the sky. The internal reflection is from the star "Vega" located about 2.5 degrees to the SE, which is the 5th brightest star in the sky. Each of the brightest stars in the sky has created a similar internal telescopic reflection in the Google Sky imagery.
For a list of these data errors, see my list under "Internal Telescopic Reflections" HERE.
Keep looking, and have fun!
|Re: What the heck is this?||ChristianNL||8/9/09 12:48 PM|
I was just looking around and found these "thread-like" things, does anybody knows what these are.
Thanks in advance,
|Re: What the heck is this?||Markopolo||8/10/09 10:04 AM|
The Google Sky imagery comes from photographic plates (physical pieces of glass coated with silver iodide emulsion) placed at the objective of professional telescopes during sky surveys, which are then digitized. In many, many places, pieces of dust and lint, and other extraneous objects have fallen on the photographic plates prior to the digitization process. You've found three such examples, which I'll add to my collection of Google Sky data errors which is located in a .kmz file HERE.
Here is a picture of Dr. Miriam Rengel, an astrophysicist, cleaning off a glass photographic plate, just prior to digitizing it in the machine in the background. You can imagine that there might be a piece of dust or lint or even a fingerprint left over during the process.
Credit for the image to Christian Hoegner and Miriam Rengel, PhD., from her website HERE. I e-mailed her and received permission to use this photograph for educational purposes only.
|Re: What the heck is this?||ChristianNL||8/10/09 1:31 PM|
Thanks for your explanation!
|Re: What do you think?||icemax2005||8/25/09 11:13 PM|
What is this ?
Both IRAS filters on
|Re: What do you think?||Markopolo||8/26/09 8:42 PM|
Hello, icemax, and welcome to Google Sky!
Not to disappoint you, but you're not the first person to notice this object in the IRAS imagery, it's been discussed before.
It's a spurious or transient object, meaning that it was present at the time the image was taken, but is no longer there in other IR imagery of the same coordinates at different times. There is nothing corresponding in visible or UV wavelengths. IRAS was a satellite in orbit around the Earth, so whatever the object is, it's not something in our atmosphere. Relative to the rest of the IRAS imagery, it is way too bright of a source to be very distant, meaning in another galaxy, or even very far away in our own galaxy. It must be fairly close to be that bright.
My guess is that ArCos2K is correct, it's most likely a Solar System object. Not coincidentally, I think, the position of the object lies precisely on the ecliptic, which is the plane that all our planets follow in their orbits around the sun. To me, that is the most telling fact about this object. The brightest IR object (besides the Sun, of course) is Jupiter.
I've spent a fair amount of time researching this object, to no avail, using SIMBAD, VIZIER, and the IRAS Point Source Catalog. My next step is to contact NASA with a question. If I get an answer, I'll certainly pass it along to the interested folks here on Google Sky.
<edit> I found this quote from the IRAS CalTech website, under A.3 "Cautionary Notes", section e):
"While great pains were taken to confirm the reality of sources in the point and small extended source catalogs, no such attempt was made for the sky brightness images. Instead, separate images of the sky taken at times differing from weeks to months are given. It is the responsibility of the user to ensure that sources seen in the images are not due to transient sources such as asteroids." Emphasis mine, and I'm sure planets would be included as transient sources.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||sinist3r||9/10/09 11:12 PM|
there is nothing there!
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||9/11/09 12:42 AM|
Hello, sinist3r, and welcome to Google Sky!
To see the object that icemax2005 is referring to, you must enable the IRAS layers: in the lower left corner of the Google Sky viewer is a box called "Layers". Open the folder called "Featured Observatories", then check the box next to "IRAS Infrared Sky". Once you have the IRAS layers enabled, download icemax's placemark, or if you've already downloaded it, double click on the name of the file "what is this?" in your Temporary Places on the left side middle of the Google Sky viewer.
For convenience, here is a screenshot of what the placemark should look like:
And to carry on the discussion, here is a screenshot of the same location, "zoomed" out a ways, and with the ecliptic plotted as the thin blue line running diagonally from lower left to upper right. Disregard the thick black line perpendicular to the ecliptic, it is simply missing data.
You can see that the Sun is sitting exactly on the ecliptic (which it must, by definition), and Saturn and Venus are slightly North of the ecliptic. All planetary orbits are slightly inclined to the plane of the ecliptic, so planets spend half the time North, and half the time South of the ecliptic, and cross the ecliptic twice during each orbit.
The "what is this?" placemark sits almost precisely on the ecliptic, so my best guess is that it was a planet at that location when the IRAS satellite took the image we're looking at. The reason I say that is because the object is not to be found in other imagery in the infrared or at several other wavelengths (I've checked) at the same location, i.e. it is a transient object, very bright in the infrared, which sits precisely upon the ecliptic. Since it's almost exactly on the ecliptic, it could possibly even be the Sun, but I can't imagine NASA pointing a multi-million dollar telescope, which must be cooled to 2 degrees Kelvin, at the Sun. Ergo, almost certainly a planet, most probably Jupiter!
Good luck, and have fun!
<edit 12/6/2010> I stand corrected. My reasoning above was sound, at the time I wrote the preceding, but I have since found out what this object really is: a carbon star called IRC 10216. Click on it's name to see a short Wiki article about it. What fooled me about this object was that it sits almost precisely in the plane of the ecliptic. I used that bit of information, and the rationale described above, to assume that it was a Solar system object, when in fact, it is not. IRC 10216 lies approximately 650 light years away, well outside of our Solar system, in fact, it's nearly 1% of the diameter of our galaxy away from us.
Like so many things, I found the true identity of the mystery object serendipitously, while reading THIS webpage from CalTech's Infrared Processing and Analysis Center (IPAC). About halfway through the article, in a paragraph marked with a number "2", there is a reference to a very bright infrared object, which lies "almost exactly in the plane of the ecliptic". Using the R.A./Dec. coordinates from the Wiki article above, I scanned the location in Google Sky using the IRAS layer, and sure enough, it's the same object brought to our attention by icemax2005 above. It's a coincidence, of course, that such a bright IR source would lie in the plane of the ecliptic. Some people find hard to accept that coincidences do occur: there are many object which lie in the plane of the ecliptic, not all of them are planets or asteroids or comets, or are even Solar system objects at all.
THIS is the SIMBAD page for further information and links about this star.
As an editorial comment, this is a good example of how science works: a hypothesis is put forward, with data, and conclusions based on the data. The hypothesis or theory is only as good as the data upon which it is based, and the reasoning for the conclusions, and remains valid only until additional information comes along. That's what happened in this case. I was wrong, previously, and I admit it. Now I have a better idea about the identity of this little mystery, although I still wouldn't stake my life or bet the mortgage on it. It's possible I'm still wrong, but I feel more confident now that I know about IRC 10216.
|Space Witch - HAPPY HALLOWEEN !||Carl Jr.||9/21/09 5:49 PM|
|Re: Space Witch - HAPPY HALLOWEEN !||spacecowboy2006||9/22/09 9:02 AM|
Cataloged as IC 2118 The Witch Head Nebula, and the supergiant star Rigel, are in Orion. Do an APOD Search to see previous APOD posts for the Witch Head Nebula.______ http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap081031.html ______
Pic is Mount Diablo, California; it is also the point setting for my snapshot default, because it is one of the most meaningful geographic places in the world.______ http://www.mtdiablocam.com/
___ If you open this link scroll down to where it has Geography.
|Missing Star||Little_Mike||10/18/09 11:39 PM|
5h 53m 27s-6 10' 56 For some reason this image was removed.. find out why here > http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread511592/pg1
|Re: Missing Star||Markopolo||10/19/09 6:58 AM|
Hi, mike, and welcome to Google Sky.
Ah, not quite. The image wasn't removed, it just was never included with the rest of the data that went into the Google Sky imagery. There is quite a difference between data being removed and data being overlooked.
Originally Posted By: Little_Mike
For some reason this image was removed...
Contrary to the claim in the video you posted to the effect that "this is the only piece of sky missing from all of Google Earth", there are several areas of missing data in the Google Sky imagery. I've attached my collection of maybe 100 or so of them, as well as lots of other kinds of data problems, below.
Most people don't know how difficult it is to gather full-sky imagery in the tiny pieces that telescopes produces, digitize the images into useable data, "stitch" all these pieces together, then present them over the Internet without lots of little errors creeping into the data.
And the idea that the South Pole Telescope was constructed to observe Nibiru is laughable. If you understand anything about the sky at all, you'll know that the entire Southern Sky is visible from anywhere south of the equator. There are dozens of professional quality telescopes at La Silla, Chile, in Australia, South Africa, and other places which can see the entire Southern Sky, just like you can see the North Star (Polaris) from anywhere North of the equator. You don't have to go to the North Pole to see Polaris, and you certainly don't have to build a telescope at the South Pole, to see all of the Southern sky.
Nibiru isn't "hiding" or "being hidden" in some special place that can only be seen from a certain location in the Southern Sky. That's what is funny about this whole thing...there are hundreds of professional quality telescopes and thousands, perhaps millions of amateur quality telescopes. Anybody with a pair of binoculars can go out and look at any part of the sky, and with observers in both hemispheres, there's no part of the sky which isn't visible.
Lastly, that particular piece of missing data from the Google Sky imagery, and all the other missing pieces, are not missing from other wavelegths in the Google Sky imagery, and are not missing from a variety of other sources of astronomical imagery. Google Sky isn't the only place to find a picture of the night sky. Check around, educate yourself, see what you can find for yourself, and don't believe everything you see on the Internet.
Good luck, and have fun.
|Re: What is this? Never seen anything like it.||clickclickboom||10/30/09 9:49 AM|
that is a double star system (think Tatooine)
I was gone, but now I'm back and better than ever
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||wyle||11/3/09 8:57 PM|
i was looking at cool/strange looking stars, and i zoomed in at Pollux, and when i zoomed in, i saw something that looks somewhat like a satellite, and i just found that very strange.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||11/3/09 9:06 PM|
Pollux is the 17th brightest star in the sky, according to THIS Wiki page. All bright stars create glares, internal reflections and aberrations of the kind that you found around Pollux. These aberrations are worse, or at least more colorful and have more internal reflections, in the SDSS Google Sky data than in the DSS data. (Look at the bottom of your Google Sky browser, it'll tell you which set of data you're looking at.)
Browse around some of the other bright stars on the Wiki list above, and see the various oddities that come about when professional telescopes and sensitive digital image gathering equipment is pointed at overwhelmingly bright sources.
Here's Beta Ursa Majoris:
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Nelly6899||11/11/09 2:17 AM|
I found something weird, too. You have to get fare away to see the sign. Can it be some light? And look at the planet who is nearbye on the left.Maybe somebody doesn't want us to see anything?
I hope somebody has an answer?
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||11/11/09 11:28 AM|
Hi, Nelly, and welcome to Google Sky.
You've found an internal reflection from Sirius, less than 5 degrees away to the SW. The glare from very bright stars frequently does funny things to sensitive professional astronomical hardware. This is what the business end of a reflecting telescope looks like, see if it doesn't look something like the reflection that you found:
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||devisscha||12/1/09 9:52 AM|
Hey all, I have some strange dumps from google earth and want to know what u guys think, just copy paste the following coordinates in the search option @ Google Earth:
- 4:57:40, -68:55:58.5 IS THIS PAINTBRUSHED?
- 9:24:19, 67:12:49.1 WHERE IS THE BEGINNING?
- 5:35:28, -69:16:09 WHAT IS THAT?
Let me hear what u think,
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||12/1/09 12:46 PM|
Hi, deVisscha, and welcome to Google Sky!
First, copying and pasting the coordinates as posted didn't work, GE doesn't recognize inappropriate spaces between the minus sign and the number, nor does it recognize the colon symbol as a separator, nor does it recognize the comma symbol. Did you try to copy and paste the RA/Dec strings into the Search box yourself? How did that work for you?
My suggestion for you would be to learn how to create a placemark. Placemarks allow you to show a specific point at the zoom, rotation, and orientation that you wish to demonstrate. CLICK HERE for a link to a short lesson on creating placemarks and overlays.
Now, regarding place number 1 which you posted, I didn't see anything unusual. Perhaps in re-formatting your R.A. and Dec. coordinates, something got changed from where you were originally looking, which re-emphasizes the need for you to learn how to create a placemark.
Place number 2, same story. Looks like a random starfield.
Place number 3, same story. Random starfield.
I have no doubt you've found some things which you think are out of the ordinary, we simply have a problem communicating about where those places are on the Google Sky imagery. Please learn how to create placemarks, then come back and we can talk about your discoveries.
Again, welcome to Google Sky!
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||devisscha||12/1/09 12:57 PM|
hmm i think i found the problem ..
i used "-" as an index symbol.. so leave the first "-".. do not copy this along with the rest of the code.
make sure there ar not blanc Strings in it "empty spaces" so that it is "5:35:28, -69:16:09" and not " 5:35:28, -69:16:09 "
Ow and make sure you use the tab "Search on location" instead of the normal search tab.
I did post one of the "weird" things i encountered, seems i cant add more then 1 attachement per post?
Hope this clearifys it a little
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||devisscha||12/1/09 1:18 PM|
file number 2
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||devisscha||12/1/09 1:20 PM|
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||12/1/09 1:36 PM|
Hey, deVisscha, you made progress! The placemark worked just fine. Good job! Yes, you can add more than 1 placemark (or polygon, path, or overlay) to a post; the trick is to Add a folder, then put your placemarks into the folder. You can nest folders inside of folders to organize a large presentation.
Originally Posted By: devisscha
...seems i cant add more then 1 attachement per post?
The item you labeled "weird1" is a small portion of a Hubble Space Telescope image of SN 1987a, the remnant of a supernova which exploded in the Large Magellanic Cloud in 1987.
HERE is a link to the original ESA/HST image, which you can download in various file sizes and resolutions.
The overlay is correctly located on the Google Sky imagery, and, presumably, posted at the correct size/scale.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||devisscha||12/1/09 1:39 PM|
Wow very nice pictures.... the world keeps fascinating me!
But the other pictures you have any comments on that?
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||12/1/09 1:46 PM|
The object you labeled "weird2" is not actually an object in space, at all. It is an aberration in the light-gathering hardware which took the image, scattering light from a fairly bright star, and it is common in the SDSS area of data. If you look at the bottom of your Google Sky viewer, you'll see either "Image c 2007 SDSS" or "Image c 2007 DSS Consortium", or both. The area of SDSS imagery has better color reproduction, but one of the trade-offs is that there are more of these light-scattering errors.
There are lots of errors in the Google Sky data, and I've made a collection of them at the bottom of the first post HERE. There are different classes of errors, and different explanations for why these different classes of data errors exist.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||12/1/09 2:04 PM|
The item you placemarked "weird3" is what I'd call, descriptively enough a "blob". It's most likely some bit of fuzz or lint which got onto the photographic plate (the one taken with the blue filter) for that area of the sky. Here is what the hardware looks like which converts a glass photographic plate into a digital file:
Photo courtesy of astrophysicist Dr. Miriam Rengel, who is using the paintbrush to dust off the photographic plate in the picture.
As you can see, it would be entirely possible for a piece of dust or lint, or an eyelash or fingerprint, to get into the digitized data file. Astronomical photos are usually taken with a blue, green, and red filter, then combined to yield a colored image, and different bits of scientific knowledge can be gleaned by comparing the relative brightness in the different colors. If you see an odd-looking blob or string in the Google Sky imagery, particularly if it is solid blue in color, or green or red, you can bet that it's just an error in the processing of the image. In the case of "weird3", the blue thing actually appear to lie on top of the stars in the photographic image, just as a foreign object sitting on top of the photographic plate would appear.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||devisscha||12/1/09 2:08 PM|
Damm,, i really thought i saw something suspicious there.. you work for the government don't you? Just telling people that all they see are errors or blobs haha
Thanks for the information,
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||12/1/09 2:15 PM|
No worries, DeVisscha, lots of people see the same things as you in the GE imagery, and have the same sorts of ideas about those things being weird objects up in outer space. Have you read this entire thread from page 1? It might help you to see what other people think.
I'm not saying there are no weird or unexplained things up in space, just that the more you understand about how astronomy actually works, how astronomical data is actually gathered and processed, the more you understand how various kinds of errors can get into that data. I just happen to be further along the learning curve in understanding how astronomy is done than you.
P.S. You're right about one thing...I do work for the government. I work for a local county fire department in central California.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||devisscha||12/3/09 10:32 AM|
Hi markopolo, you have any ideas what these are?
I mean the weird rope like objects, 3 of um
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||12/3/09 12:31 PM|
Hi, DeVisscha. These are spurious pieces of lint or hairs, introduced into the POSS imagery through the process described above, and illustrated with the photograph of Dr. Rengel at the digitizer. There is a tremendous amount of these sorts of things in the data. I don't know why the people who created or digitized the POSS data didn't take better care of their photographic plates to keep these sorts of erroneous pieces of lint, dust, and dirt out of the imagery, but they didn't.
Originally Posted By: devisscha
...weird rope like objects, 3 of um...
Whenever I want to follow up on an astronomical object I've found in the Google Sky data, I usually go to the SIMBAD database website HERE, and/or I use the Aladin Java viewer contained in the SIMBAD website, or I use my Aladin viewer which I've downloaded separately from THIS webpage.
The point of all this is to access other kinds of data, taken with other telescopes at various wavelengths, for the same piece of sky. In the case of your "weird4" strings, I downloaded an image of the same piece of sky which included two of the three pieces of lint, but this image was taken from the 2MASS sky survey with a "J" filter. I also looked at the same 2MASS data with "K" and "H" filters, and saw the same result (no strings), but the "J" filter data was the clearest.
Next, I saved the image as a .jpg file, and created a Google Sky overlay, attached below. If you download the overlay, and toggle it on and off (click the little box next to the filename to check the box on and off and on and off), you'll see that the two strings in this area covered by the 2MASS imagery do not exist in the 2MASS data, but do in the DSS Consortium (POSS) data.
Here's a hint, too, now that you know how to create a placemark: When dealing with astronomical imagery, it is usually much better to always have North up. You can do that in Google Sky by clicking the N symbol on the compass in the upper right corner of your GS viewer.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||devisscha||12/3/09 3:42 PM|
Sorry to say this but if that is hair its very far away? How much hair has been lost.. and if it was that just something that got on the photo-plate, than hair would block a huge area no? And why didnt they develope the plate again without the "hair" cant be so much work when you know the position and all other variables?
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||12/3/09 4:46 PM|
Look closely at the picture of Dr. Rengel 6 posts above this one. You can see her holding an astronomical photographic plate in her left hand, and brushing it off with her right. And in the background is the digitizer itself; you can see the square bracket which holds the photographic plates. The photographic plate and it's matching bracket appear to be approximately 12 inches, but this is for a telescope at La Silla in Chile. In the case of the Palomar Observatory Sky Survey, the basis for the DSS Consortium data used by Google Sky, according to THIS website, the photographic plates were 14 inches square, and each one covered a portion of the sky 6.5 degrees by 6.5 degrees.
Now, the largest piece of lint of the three which you've placemarked at "weird4" measures 0.03 degrees. So, 100 pieces of lint that size would stretch 3 degrees, and 200 pieces of lint would stretch 6 degrees, almost the size of the POSS plate, which is actually 14 inches across. 14"/200 = 0.07 inches. This is on the right order of magnitude for a piece of lint, I suppose, but I'm not about to start measuring little pieces of lint. Back to Dr. Rengel's photograph above, notice how she's wearing a woolen sweater, with a scarf of some sort around her neck. It's not a stretch at all for me to see how lint could get into the digitized image, and the scale is of approximately the right size.
And, most importantly, DeVisscha, did you look at the overlay I created of the same area using different data? There is nothing in that portion of the sky from a different telescope at three different wavelengths, meaning whatever the little squiggles are, they are a transient or spurious object.
Below, I created a polygon 6.5 degrees by 6.5 degrees square, to simulate what a POSS photgraphic plate would look like projected onto that piece of sky. The squiggles seem to be on the right order of magnitude to be pieces of dust or lint, if the photo plate was 14" square.
|Re: What do you think?||Fundip||12/10/09 3:47 PM|
i was trying to do that overlay and propeties thing but i dont know how im new to google sky. can u help me?
|Re: What do you think?||Markopolo||12/10/09 4:48 PM|
Browse the "Support and Answers" area, fundip, and you'll find lots of helpful hints.
CLICK HERE for an introduction to Placemarks and Overlays.
Good luck, and have fun!
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||shondon||12/20/09 10:42 PM|
-this video really explains it all and even has a pic to prove that nibiru might exist, not a joke.
oh and btw, whats to say markopolo is not in on this whole thing?
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||12/21/09 10:05 AM|
Hello, shondon, and welcome to Google Sky (Earth, Moon, Mars, etc.)
Originally Posted By: shondon
...oh and btw, whats to say markopolo is not in on this whole thing?
This is called an "ad hominem" argument, folks. I think in law school or debate class, they teach you if you have no argument against the evidence or facts, then you attack your opponent.
Just to be clear, shondon, I am not selling any books, magazines, or DVD's. I don't own a website to earn any advertising revenue. I don't charge admission at conventions or get paid any speaker fees. In fact, I have no financial incentive at all in rebutting the Nibiru (or alien, UFO, Area 51, Bigfoot, Easter Bunny, etc.) conspiracy theories. There are people who have financial incentives to keep these theories going, because they DO have books, websites, speaker fees, etc. These are the people whose motives I'd question, not a guy like me who only encourages people to verify and validate and learn for themselves, rather than take what is spoon-fed to them.
I've explained elsewhere that the Google Sky imagery has dozens of bits of missing data. In fact, I've collected as many as I could find in a .kmz file at the bottom of the first post in THIS thread. One thing I always try to do is recommend people check other sources whenever you have a question about any Google Sky imagery. There are lots of them out there, SIMBAD is one of the best because it links to many, many more sources. Just because a piece of data is missing from the Google Sky imagery, doesn't mean it isn't available from several other sources. There are lots of images (from a variety of dates and at a variety of wavelengths) of this particular piece of the sky. If you use the "Layers" feature in Google Sky, you can discover for yourself that there is nothing missing at this location in other wavelegths of the Google Sky data. This is what makes the Nibiru conspiracy theory so silly...if somebody really wanted to cover up a piece of the sky, they'd have to do it at all wavelegths, from all sources, and then prevent people from looking for themselves at that piece of sky.
Originally Posted By: shondon
Fortunately, the place you've selected as "the home of Nibiru" is well placed in the sky. There are very few people on earth who can't step out in their backyard tonight with a pair of binoculars to examine the location in question. It's just to the SW of Orion's Belt, easily visible to most human beings on the face of our planet. Tonight. And tomorrow night, and the night after that. Don't take my word for it that Nibiru isn't there, get a pair of binoculars and go look for yourself.
Again, shondon, welcome to Google Sky! Good luck, and have fun!
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||protodermis||12/23/09 4:14 PM|
Found this a couple days ago. It is blue with a red streak on it. this might have to do with the bright red star nearby.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||rsaw003||12/27/09 3:11 PM|
COuld anyone please tell me what is at coordinates RA 15h13m58.55s -12 47'45.08 and 3'30.10" arcdegrees.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||12/27/09 5:55 PM|
Yup, it's an overexposure of that star.
Originally Posted By: protodermis
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||12/27/09 6:01 PM|
Oooooh, that's a nice one, rsaw. My guess would be a scratch in the photographic plate. There's a hair 0.07 degrees North of your location.
Originally Posted By: rsaw003
It's really unfortunate that the people who are responsible for this imagery don't take better care of their products, but there's lots of scratches, lint and dust, overexposures, and other things which add up to make fairly poor quality data.
I'll add this one to my collection HERE.
|I can't see planets.How can I?||Kevin Melk||1/11/10 11:28 AM|
I turn on the planets under the ''Our solar system'' but I can't see a single planet.What's wrong?
|Re: I can't see planets.How can I?||Markopolo||1/11/10 1:45 PM|
Hello, Kevin, and welcome to Google Sky!
The "Our Solar System" layer has been down for a couple of months, now. Unfortunate, because it's a neat orrery when it works, providing an accurate way to keep track of the planets, if you're an amateur astronomer like I am. I've been told that the sysops at Google are aware of the problem, but they've got other priorities, apparently.
My suggestion would be for you to patient, check back once in awhile on that feature, and in the meantime, explore other features of Google Sky (or GMoon, GMars or GEarth). There's plenty there to keep me busy.
|black squars||gevv||1/19/10 3:41 AM|
wy are there so many black squares in some pictures what is there what i am not allowed to see i mean its space/ stars...
here are some coordinates so u can see them aswell,
u can clearly see that they where made black wy....
|Re: black squars||Markopolo||1/19/10 7:35 AM|
Hello, gevy, and welcome to Google Sky!
There are many, many more bits of missing data, some much larger than the ones you've found. I've got a collection of them at the bottom of the first post in THIS thread, which is my collection of all kinds of Data Problems in the Google Sky data. There are many other kinds of data errors besides missing bits.
If you understood how much data there is actually presented in Google Sky, you wouldn't be too surprise that bits get lost in the shuffle. Part of it has to do with trying to "stitch" together flat astronomical images onto a spherical mathematical model which is Google Sky. Part of it has to do with the simple process of taking astronomical images.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Hill||2/7/10 9:35 PM|
Here's a good time sponge for those who like to find images of things where they really aren't.
You can look for faces, initials, unicorns and whatever in the cosmic background radiation.
Clockwise from top left: Phoenix, a donkey, a parrot and a deer.
If you want to really see some amazing things about the cosmos, read this, and then tell me you'd rather go back to looking for fanciful images instead of learning about the real science behind our universe.
Click the images to view two important videos about our only home.
A Pale Blue Dot HOME
“Only when the last tree has died, the last river has been poisoned, and the last fish has been caught will we realize we cannot eat money.” Cree Proverb
My avatar Mr. Raven posed for me at the Tower of London.
|Re: Strange galaxy?||Nskastro||3/18/10 2:59 PM|
Yes David, it is. There are lots of them.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||EvilSpork||3/25/10 11:07 AM|
The blank area on Google SkyView at 5h 53m 27s, -6 10 58 can easily be seen by locating data from alternative sources.
Follow the attached .kmz file or visit this YouTube video to see how you can locate this star data yourself.
|I found some too....||dtek||5/2/10 6:07 AM|
Hello, I also have found MANY galaxies in the sky.
Here is one of the examples that I have found. Also look up the HubbleCast number 8...its a field of galazies!!!
"Space is infinite, I plan on finding everything"
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||jacq222||5/27/10 10:54 PM|
watch this you tube video
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||5/28/10 8:22 AM|
Hi, jaq222, and welcome to Google Sky.
The location in the YouTube video is readily viewable in a variety of other sources besides Google Sky. WikiSky is one such source, click HERE if you wish to see for yourself. There are many others, too. Nothing missing, no Nibiru, no conspiracy.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||skykitty||7/11/10 6:06 AM|
dude,... even when i type in the coordinates at 5h 53m 27s -6 10' 56 it doesn't show the exact area i get on google earth... check it out... the coordinates actually end up in the middle of the black area.. which, by the way have moved since the original date back in 07... check out the video on alienshift.com the star that he is talking about being cut in half is now in full view
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Markopolo||7/11/10 8:27 AM|
I'm not quite clear on what you're saying, skykitty. When you type in the coordinates in WikiSky, you don't see the matching stars adjacent to the missing imagery in Google Sky? If you go to the same locations in both software (i.e. Google Sky and WikiSky) and zoom to the same approximate level, it should be apparent that it is in fact the same piece of sky, based on the pattern of adjacent bright stars, and that a piece of the imagery in Google Sky is simply missing. The star that is "cut in half" in Google Sky being fully visible in WikiSky makes my point, that the missing data in Google Sky is fully visible in WikiSky, and in other imagery, such as from Aladin, and others.
Originally Posted By: skykitty
|Re: Strange galaxy?||Ledécouvreur...||7/12/10 6:35 AM|
|Re: Strange galaxy?||Markopolo||7/16/10 9:59 PM|
It's an image defect due to overexposure and "stacking" of multiple exposures of the same area of the sky. There are thousands, perhaps millions, of similar defects in the SDSS portion of the GSky imagery.
Originally Posted By: Ledécouvreur...
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Twogun30||8/21/10 9:22 AM|
View that same spot with the WWT (world wide telescope). It's a public IR telescope that shows Nibiru, Nemesis, Planet X, The Red Dwarf or what ever you want to call it in perfect clarity. The anomaly is no doubt being blacked out by the Bilderberg group. When you see it with your own eyes it really quite amazing and VERY hot. Enjoy.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||8/21/10 1:10 PM|
Which "same spot" is that, Twogun? I couldn't find anything out of the ordinary at the usually reported location of 5 53 27 -6 10 56, using THIS WWT webclient website, and looking at a variety of wavelengths, including the 2MASS InfraRed survey. It looked like a random piece of sky, to me. Am I looking in the wrong place?
Originally Posted By: Twogun30
View that same spot with the WWT...
Could you post a placemark in GSky, please?
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||just me||8/26/10 2:30 AM|
I found another missing section at RA 5h54m50.32s
Dec 2 50'47,37"
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||8/26/10 11:52 AM|
Hello, just me (just you?) and welcome to Google Sky.
I've been collecting various kinds of data problems in a .kmz at the bottom of the first post HERE. There is an entire folder of "Missing data" contained in that .kmz file, with perhaps a hundred or more bits of missing data.
I didn't check the one you posted, because you didn't provide a placemark, and placemarks are MUCH easier to follow as opposed to try and copy and pasting or keying in a RA/Dec set of coordinates. You can learn how to create and share a placemark HERE.
Hope that helps. Good luck, and have fun!
|Re: Sky view: Weird laser beams!||GalaxyGuard||9/8/10 10:41 PM|
Was a decisive battle !...
Between the worlds of complete !...
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Martin Bernardi||10/6/10 4:45 PM|
If you see, in World Wide Telescope (Microsoft) there are same errors
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||_Gillian_||10/15/10 6:57 PM|
Hi everyone! I'm really enjoying some of the pics and explanations here. It's greatly helped my understanding of the anomalies on Google Sky. That said, I'm hoping you can shed some light on this ...
Google Sky ...
Same object on Wikisky ...
Looks cylindrical to me. It even has a shadow line along it's length.
SIMBAD inquiry shows nothing.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||spacecowboy2006||10/15/10 7:34 PM|
If theres no data to be found on it that should tell you its just another data error just like a thousand others.
Pic is Mount Diablo, California; it is also the point setting for my snapshot default, because it is one of the most meaningful geographic places in the world.______ http://www.mtdiablocam.com/
___ If you open this link scroll down to where it has Geography.
|Re: Strange galaxy?||BananaPeel||11/7/10 10:33 AM|
You may have just saw a star exploding... i don't know much about stars but it looks like an explosion...
|Re: Strange galaxy?||spacecowboy2006||11/7/10 11:57 AM|
No, THIS looks like an explosion! Paste or type this into your Sky browser - Eta Carinae - then zoom in closer.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Truth-Holder||11/9/10 5:26 PM|
I think there blacking out a planet named nibiru. its a planet thats going to enter are solar system.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Hill||11/9/10 7:54 PM|
Originally Posted By: Truth-Holder
Hi truthie. Read this thread.
|Re: Alienman Call Beacon||donaldjj0||11/22/10 4:34 PM|
This apears to be a secondary reflection of the pright star just below it. note the cross is alligned with the bright star
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||ziele112||11/24/10 10:55 AM|
Blue43 something blue
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||iwannabeanastronomer||11/24/10 6:29 PM|
Its a bunch of squares in Ursa Minor, they are in a line.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||iwannabeanastronomer||11/24/10 6:33 PM|
Strange Squares in Lynx too...
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||ET_Explorer_2012||11/24/10 7:07 PM|
iwannabeanastromer, Welcome to GEC.
What you have found is a piece of bad, also in lynx too, just bad data.
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|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||dedakins||11/30/10 9:09 PM|
the reson that this is croped out is because there is the nineth planet nibiru and they dont want us to freak out about it>> the goverment need to hide there infomation better there password suck i used my computer to take off the crop space the univers 5h 53m 27s -6 10' 56
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Markopolo||12/2/10 12:27 PM|
I'm freaking out about people who believe in Nibiru.
Originally Posted By: dedakins
...there is the nineth planet nibiru and they dont want us to freak out about it...
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||spacecowboy2006||12/2/10 12:39 PM|
1. why would "they" not want us to see it if its close approach is inevitable anyway?
2. You CANT find something thats NOT there! Its THAT simple!
3. What will the believers say when nothing ever appears? Remember when California was going to slide off into the ocean (1969?) per Edgar Casey? And when it didnt, the believers didnt say Casey was wrong, no, they just said he had the date wrong. We're already hearing that the Mayan Calander is off and 12-21-2012 is incorrect for their predictions.
4. No Nibiru, and no cosmic event on 12-21-2012. Get used to it.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Markopolo||12/2/10 7:03 PM|
Just as you said, cowboy, "Uh, my bad, I meant 2112", or "the Sun was in my eyes", or "the dog ate my homework".
Originally Posted By: spacecowboy2006
...What will the believers say when nothing ever appears?...
No, there is an unending litany of failed apocalyptic prophecies, here is a short list of 10 of them: click here You never hear much about them after the prophecy fails to materialize.
Remember "Do" and "Ti" of Heaven's Gate fame? Those clowns convinced a total of 39 people to commit suicide because of an approaching comet. Not that they thought the comet would strike Earth, they thought it was a spaceship, and they could get on the spaceship by killing themselves. According to THIS Wiki, "...Heaven's Gate was known in UFO circles..." which is why I have a problem with all those alien/conspiracy yayhoos out there with their websites and DVD's and books for sale.
Wonder how many people are actually going to commit suicide for no good reason in the second week of December in 2012?
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||fataltorment||12/7/10 11:30 AM|
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||ET_Explorer_2012||12/7/10 4:20 PM|
I doubt it, have you been reading the previous posts?
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||ET_Explorer_2012||1/7/11 9:50 PM|
The Monolith Before
monolith before by etexplorer2012, on Flickr
The Monolith After - My God!! It's Full of Stars!!
monolith after - My God It Is Full Of Stars by etexplorer2012, on Flickr
The faint white dots are not something I put there. These stars are what is
on the otherside of this black area or "missing area"?
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||USAStarhunter||1/22/11 7:41 PM|
I found the exact same cube!!! I have the measurments for it and everything!
To believe or to not believe, there are other being like us.
They are out there waiting for us to arrive and we are waiting for them to arrive.
This will be an endless wait if we don't take the next step into space now.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||ET_Explorer_2012||1/22/11 8:19 PM|
I still think it the monolith, ready to spit out nibiru at the right time
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||RWSS2011||2/3/11 6:21 PM|
U know, for the last 2 or 3 nights when I stand outside my side door & smoke a cigarette, I've seen a strange light that follows a path right over my house (it actually turned to me and got BRIGHTER). 2nite, it went over the HAzel Park Food Center and just let me peek at it from around the stone wall by my house; I mean, it just floated and then sat there while I peeked at it. (there was another smaller one, too, in the original location I first saw the one I'm speaking about.)
When I'm out there, for the last 2 or 3 weeks, I just been looking up at the Big Dipper & Lil Dipper & happened to come across the lights.....does anyone know what they might be??
No...THEY ARE NOT WEATHER BALLONS OR HELICOPTERS.
THEY MOVE, FOLLOW, GET BRIGHT, HANG LOW & SIT STILL FOR MINUTES AT A TIME.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||spacecowboy2006||2/3/11 6:41 PM|
Hazel Park Michigan? Perhaps your seeing the aurora borealis? northen lights. Or maybe shifting atmospheric illusion affect. Flashlights? Lasers?
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||2/3/11 6:43 PM|
You don't say where you live, the directions (Altitude/Azimuth or R.A./Dec.) to the object(s) you're seeing, etc. There's very little to go on here.
The description of motion in your last sentence sounds like you're in the flight line of an airport. If that's true, you'll usually see a series of aircraft lights following generally the same path, but not exactly. They'll get lower and brighter, then the aircraft may turn to a different leg in the "pattern".
Just a guess, though. Is there a major airport near your house?
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||ET_Explorer_2012||2/3/11 6:44 PM|
There called "UFO's
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Hill||2/3/11 8:27 PM|
This may be the wrong forum. You should probably contact these guys.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||spacecowboy2006||2/3/11 8:59 PM|
Remember, UFO means unidentifiable flying object; it does not mean flying saucer or any kind of alien presence. I've seen ufo's 3 times.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Normb||2/4/11 1:55 AM|
Originally Posted By: RWSS2011
U know, for the last 2 or 3 nights when I stand outside my side door & smoke a cigarette,--
The best thing to do is to give up the smokes.. I think it's a sign
Norm - Christchurch (Under repair - Central city closed :-( - New Zealand.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Diane9247||2/4/11 8:52 PM|
|The original photo is available||SyriusStar01||2/16/11 5:06 AM|
Go to the DSS Consortium website to view this photo. I have seen the original numerous times. Very bright star in the lower part of the cropped box.
|Re: The original photo is available||ET_Explorer_2012||2/16/11 6:09 AM|
SyriusStar01, Welcome to Google Sky, and Google Earth Community
Couldn't find any information of what you are talking about
|Here are the instructions||SyriusStar01||2/19/11 2:30 PM|
I apologize for not getting back sooner
1. Use your Google Search engine to search for "DSS Consortium". It stands for Digitized Sky Survey.
2. This is the link that comes up> gsss.stsci.edu/SkySurveys/SkySurveys.htm
3. The fifth pargragh down says users can easily retrieve image data for any part of the sky. That is a fancy way of saying you can look at pictures.
4. Retrieve image data is colored blue. It is a link that leads you to the user tool.
5. You may want to change one of the setttings for file format from FITS to GIF.
5A. You can also play around with the arcminutes of the image. I suggest nothing lower than 12 or 13, as it is preset at 15.
6. Enter the coordinates for right acsension and declination in their respective boxes that normally direct you to the mysterious black box from GOOGLE EARTH AND SKY and walla! There is the contents of the box which include an extremely bright star.
I was up all night one night determined to find the contents of that blacked out image. I am of the belief that the internet has destroyed all attempts at being truly secret. If there was a government conspiracy to keep this secret I would never have found this picture. I honestly think Google was simply hacked and they have not fixed the problem yet.
My email incase you still have problems is > bighea...@yahoo.com
|Re: Here are the instructions||Gregg1956||2/19/11 4:20 PM|
Welcome to the GEC Sky forum SyriusStar01. I like your reasoning about why cover-ups are unlikely these days.
Although you don't give the coordinates I believe you are talking about the missing data at 5h 53m 27s, -6 10' 58. A favorite among Nibiru "believers".
I can't find the original post of Markopolo's that contains this, but he did an overlay with a DSS image of the area. If you turn the overlay on & off you can see it matches up perfectly with the stars outside the area.
Click here to see Markopolo's DSS overlay in Google Sky
I think the section is just missing, not hacked. Maybe Google just never recieved it. Not too sure now, read about it long ago. I am only sure, as you are, that the reason it's not there is far more logical than a conspiratorial cover-up.
|Re: Here are the instructions||Markopolo||2/19/11 4:30 PM|
Hello, SyriusStar01, and welcome to Google Sky!
Originally Posted By: SyriusStar01
1. Use your Google Search engine to search for "DSS Consortium". It stands for Digitized Sky Survey...
I was up all night one night determined to find the contents of that blacked out image. I am of the belief that the internet has destroyed all attempts at being truly secret. If there was a government conspiracy to keep this secret I would never have found this picture. I honestly think Google was simply hacked and they have not fixed the problem yet...
That darn piece of missing data has been just about beat to death here on the Google Earth Community forums, on YouTube, and pretty much all over the Internet. From your 6 steps above, it seems like you were able to find other, external imagery of that piece of the sky. For your information, I did the same thing in March of 2009, and posted the results as an overlay in THIS post. There are actually lots and lots of available images of that piece of the sky, using other sources besides the Digitized Sky Survey. Using the Aladin search engine, I found 16 separate images of this area from four separate sky surveys: the first Palomar Observatory Sky Survey (POSS1), the 2nd Microwave All-Sky Survey (2MASS), the Science and Engineering Research Council (SERC), and the Infrared Astronomical Survey (IRAS). I suspect if I tried, I could probably find dozens more from other sources.
To your point in the last paragraph, the idea that somebody or some governmental agency could possibly censor or suppress all of the astronomical images of a portion of the sky is simply laughable, to me. Even if it were possible to hunt down and eliminate all of the images, the night sky is freely available to any- and everyone. So if there was some object SW of Orion's belt which "THEY" didn't want you to see, there is no way to prevent me from looking up at the night sky with my own telescope. There are amateurs out there with some very sophisticated telescopic hardware, and could readily see any potential "Planet X" or whatever.
So, this is the long way of saying, congratulations, you've discovered the obvious: since it's not possible to censor the night sky, the blank spot in the Google Sky imagery must simply a mistake, a piece of missing data, nothing sinister. Besides, there are dozens of other, similar missing pieces of data in the GSky dataset, I don't know why people have singled out this one spot. I have a collection of the missing bits of GSky data, in a folder in a .kmz file at the bottom of the first post in THIS thread.
Good luck, and have fun!
|Re: Here are the instructions||spacecowboy2006||2/19/11 5:42 PM|
Excellent Marco. But I'll bet you'll not see a single reply stating: Sorry I was mistaken in my belief in nibiru or any other pseudoscience objects. Real science has proved me wrong and I see there is nothing there but stars. No because what those people do is leave it and move on to something else - Mars anomalies or ufo's or anything fake.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||MarkBorders||2/19/11 8:30 PM|
Ok, all you smart assed people, how many years now has this been hidden. What is the explaination. So many have been cocky to make light of others seeking truth. Where is truth? If there is no reason to worry about whatever this is hiding then why is it still hidden?
With everything else that is going on in the world, people need to wake up. Something is being covered-up by someone, wouldn't it be a good idea to start asking what, and who? Many have a lot of explaining to do, and if they wait and chaos and panic starts gripping the public there will be deaths that will be on the hands of all who failed to answer simple questions. How many here will have blood on their hands? You?
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||spacecowboy2006||2/19/11 10:06 PM|
since Marco has provided an overlay of that part of sky, from a different data base, showing stars, your arguements are COMPLETELY invalid. Some folks just DONT get it, or refuse to get it, or dont want to get it. You see what you want to see, think what you want to think, or wish, but real science doesnt work that way, no, its based on observable measurable data, which a blank photograph NEVER is proof of.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||2/20/11 12:26 AM|
The explanation is that Google Sky came online on August 27th, 2007, about 3-1/2 years ago. SOURCE They bought/leased a set of data from two sources: the DSS consortium, and SDSS. The datasets which included the missing bits of data have not been updated since the date of inception, meaning that the data we're looking at now is exactly the same data that was initially presented to the public on August 27th, 2007. For all I know, Google has no plan to ever update that piece of missing data. That is the explanation for how many years this has been missing (3-1/2), and why it is still missing (because it has never been updated). Remember, Google Earth (and GSky, GMoon, and GMars) are freeware, not a direct revenue source for the quarterly bottom line at Google Corp. They have no real incentive to make this product any better than what it currently is, although they do upgrade some GEarth data and some browser functionality as they see fit. They are certainly under no obligation at all to buy additional imagery to satisfy your superstitions. I refuse to use the term "hidden" because, in my opinion, it is simply missing from the dataset that Google bought/leased. It is not missing from many other astrophoto datasets contained elsewhere on the Internet, as mentioned above. It certainly isn't (or wasn't) "hidden" with the implication that it was an intentional act.
Originally Posted By: MarkBorders
I think you might want to step back from your computer and take a breath, MarkBorders. The simple questions have been fully answered, chaos and panic will not start gripping the public, and the only people who will have blood on their hands will be weirdos like Do and Ti from Heaven's Gate, who coerced 39 people to commit suicide in the (false) belief that Comet Hale-Bopp was actually an alien UFO come to take them away, and that they needed to kill themselves in order to get on board the spacecraft. SOURCE Superstitious people like you, MarkBorders, who foster belief in unproven Nibiru/Planet X doomsday scenarios are the ones encouraging panic and chaos. Myself, and others like me here on this forum, are actually fostering a calm sense of understanding which comes from knowing that it's simple not possible for a red dwarf star to be 22 months away from impact on Earth without it being detected photographically and gravitationally.
Originally Posted By: MarkBorders
My suggestion would be for you to relax a little, read Gregg1956's original post at the top of THIS thread, and then do some reading about astronomy to learn for yourself that he's correct in his proposition that any object large enough to create an apocalyptic threat to Earth by December of next year would be visible to professional and amateur astronomers, and would also have a measurable gravitational impact on the outer planets.
But if you want to adhere to unproven superstition, ignore scientific evidence, and hyperventilate yourself up in panic and chaos, go right ahead. Just don't expect me to buy what you're selling.
Here is a guy with the blood of 39 people on his hands based on his false, superstitious UFO beliefs with no basis in any scientific facts:
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Gregg1956||2/20/11 10:50 AM|
Originally Posted By: MarkBorders
You've convinced me with this compelling argument. I am ready, now, to reveal The Truth.
For the past 3 years I have worked for the Google Redaction Team. The GRT's mission is to examine all imagery, before it can be viewed by the public, and to photo-shop or hide any images that are likely to cause wide spread panic in the streets. I worked and lived in a secret underground bunker located nearly a mile beneath the main facility in Mountain View California. I was never allowed to leave.
Recently I was able to escape during a Fire Drill. Just before the drill I swallowed a balloon containing a thumb drive with many of the hidden images. I had to do it that way because we were subjected to cavity searches on a regular basis.
Now I am on the run. Operatives from the Google Hit Squad are on my trail and I can feel them closing in. I can only go out at night because my eyes will no longer adjust to the harsh daylight due to living underground for so long. My skin is pasty white.
My life is a living Hell, but it is all worth it so that I may finally reveal the hidden image to all of you. Here it is:
I sincerely hope that Google and The Government are wrong and that wide spread panic will not ensue. I would hate to think that I have caused the loss of innocent lives by my actions.
I also hope that you are finally satisfied Mr. MarkBorders. I will most likely be dead within 48 hours... but I know that a Truth Seeker such as yourself will accept nothing less than the true story I have told here.
My final wish is that all of you smart asses will stop making light of these poor souls who only seek the truth.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Dasiy639||2/20/11 7:44 PM|
I Looked up nirbirus coororadents on youtube and a picture was there with some cororadents.I saw it.I Looked up in the sky with a teleascope and saw it.is there any other photos that have your informatin like the photo?
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Dasiy639||2/20/11 7:49 PM|
Not to be pushy i am in the 6th grade and i would like to help you with the secrets you have.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Gregg1956||2/20/11 8:18 PM|
Dasiy639- that post was meant to be humorous in the tradition of Stephen Colbert (who is not really a right winger but poking fun at them). I was pointing out how preposterous the whole concept of conspiracy is. The photo is the Millenium Falcon from Star Wars overlayed upon Google Sky.
There is nothing hidden, there is no Nibiru.
If you want to learn about the skies with your telescope I would encourage you to stay away from YouTube. It is NOT a credible source for astronomy. If you want to learn about the planets and the stars talk to your science teacher, visit REAL astronomy websites. The SDSS site has science projects for kids.
Ask your teacher for help if you need it.
Some very cool stuff can be learned in the REAL world of astronomy. All the Nibiru stuff is nothing but a hoax.
Watch this video by a NASA scientist about Nibiru.
There are no secrets about the skies. There is a wealth of information about our universe available to you but it's not on YouTube or conspiracy websites.
Welcome to GEC
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Dasiy639||2/20/11 8:29 PM|
Hhaha! I Kinda Doubted it anyway.But were did you get the pic?
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Gregg1956||2/20/11 8:35 PM|
Well, now, that IS a secret.
|Re: Here are the instructions||SyriusStar01||3/8/11 4:18 PM|
Thank you for the welcome, I appreciate it. I wonder if we can get Google to repair the missing section.
|Re: Here are the instructions||Gregg1956||3/8/11 5:57 PM|
SyriusStar01- in Markopolo's kmz (in the post you replied to) there are about 100 missing sections placemarked. It's not just this one.
In order to "repair" all the missing data, Google would need to get the imagery from DSS. I can't answer your question other than to say that it's probably "in the works". They may have requested it. I don't know.
But here's the way I see it: there is no real urgency here. This particular area is just an unremarkable section of stars out of billions of stars. It's not like a section of downtown Los Angeles is missing. Also: anyone can easily view that area in other sources like Wikisky or WWT.
In my opinion a large corporation like Google isn't likely to feel a sense of urgency just because a group of people who don't understand astronomy want to see a section of sky because they believe a non-existent planet is there. Would they provide higher resolution images of Loch Ness just because people want to find Nessie?
I doubt it.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Ad Champ||3/17/11 8:59 AM|
ive been watching this image since 2009, origionaly me and friends seen a nasa leak on youtube of the 10th planet in our solar system, known as planet x and also known as niberu as written by the sumarian's 6000 bc carved into stone they knew all our planets in order, including the 10th planet supposed home of the anunarki, also written on their stone carvings, as their crafts rained onto earth they called them the falling angels, they supposedly changed 64 corrections to the DNA of our origional structure creating humans as we are known today, they named our origional birth place EDEN, ironically written as our birth place in the BIBLE.
in 2009 i myself seen this plant on google earth, it was a red dot unnamed with three yellow dots around it, i believe the yellow dots are the moons to this amazing find, also google earth was up to date, one year later we typed in same co ordinates of this planet and we found this black rectangle, hahahahaha it cant get any more obviouse untill today, i shown this image this morning and within seconds the rectangle has moved slightly lower and has been tilted a lot, as the the co-ordinates are and were 5h 53m 27s, -6 10' 58, its getting closer and i believe they are coming back this way as this shows as them co-ordinates get lower and lower in the rectangle of nothingness, write back if you wish i am now going to try contacting david ike as this is an amazing discovery which seperates fact from fiction
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Markopolo||3/17/11 12:01 PM|
Hello, AdChamp, and welcome to Google Earth!
The idea of a Planet X or Nibiru colliding with Earth in 2012 has been discredited as a pseudoscientific hoax. See THIS Wiki article, and/or read THIS thread started with an excellent post by Gregg1956 here on the Google Earth Community.
Lastly, there are several dozen bits of missing data from the Google Sky dataset, they are a function of 1) dealing with a massive set of data, some of it is bound to get lost or corrupted, and 2) fitting rectangular images onto a spherical model of the sky, they don't quite fit as well as we'd all like.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||ET_Explorer_2012||3/17/11 12:23 PM|
About The Annunaki's
Click to reveal..
Who were the Annunaki? They were the Watchers, Watchmen assigned to earth to watch over Yahweh's Creation in the Garden of Eden and Earth . They were created by God as perfect Angels. These Watchers rebelled against God and their assignment and a mutiny followed as they abandoned their mission to oversee humans and began to defile the women of the earth by having offspring with them. This led to a giant defect in the DNA of the offspring and an eventual almost complete contamination of the human DNA. By the time Yahweh destroyed the world with a flood because of this contamination, only one family on earth was left with pure human DNA. But even after the flood, the Watchers kept revolting and even more were punished and cast out of heaven losing their first estate and habitation, as they continued to defile women and human DNA (Genesis 6:4) This hybridization and corruption of the human DNA is still very much a part of our world although the giant defect has been corrected and most hybridization goes undetected. Why is the church silent on UFOs, Aliens, abductions, implantations, and forced breedings?
Annunaki's weren't the ones who created humans?
A different group of being's were involved in that process.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Gregg1956||3/17/11 3:13 PM|
Originally Posted By: Ad Champ
The rectangle moved?
As Nibiru moves through the sky NASA moves the black rectangle in Google Sky, thereby covering it up. It all makes sense to me now.
Dude. Seriously. Stay away from the bong for a while.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||titan23||5/25/11 8:49 AM|
ive been wondering the same thinh for awhile now , ive been waiting to see if there going to fill it in or a technical error or something an nothing changes , but if you look at it theres clearly something behind it judging from the star light at the bottom sticking out but who knows ive tried n outerot gettin caught up in the hype of a planet x or nibiru but it seems alot of facts support the claim of gravity pulling on outer planets from somethin , global warming , the recent planetary alignments an upcoming alignments the global phenomenom of a string of recent events an a wide range of ancient cultures seem to have had some way of superior knowledge of the solar system i mean we still thought the earth was flat in the 1500 s an knew nothing of pluto an barely of the outer plants until 1930 , i mean cmon , your gonna tell me people 6 000 years ago had telescopes an that kind of technology i dont think so there would be some trace of it left , but in any case its quite possoble something big is out there an i cant see why the goverment would hide i mean if it was coming close were all gonna see it an there gonna look really stupid by covering it up somehow which they wont be able to pretty soon but the debate remains , we all have that urge to want to see something unexplained an amazing maybe this could be it maybe not ,
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||titan23||5/25/11 9:06 AM|
all i can say about the issue with the blocked out part of google sky an many other sites is that there is clearly something strange goin on , i mean look at the last year of events around the world everything from mysterios animal an fish deaths to strange planetary alignments , the december winter solctice was eclipse by a total lunar eclipse , the recent volcanic activity around the world everyones sudden interest in astronomy or the unknown in general i mean i could go on and on but it all points to one thing something is happening maybe its that pivotal moment in history when a giant empire falls an they all have , or a giant natural catastrophe , or just seeing something amazing, a planetary event it makes us all seem so small an united in a way , but i can agree with a few people i have noticed strange things in the sky lately an im gonna let time show me what it all is in the mean time all i can do is sit and watch ,
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Markopolo||5/25/11 9:29 AM|
This horse has been beaten to death. There are no gravitational disturbances in the outer planets, they are following their predicted orbits to a fine degree. And if there were anything large enough to create a gravitational disturbance in the outer planets, it would be clearly visible in a high-end backyard amateur telescope, much less a professional observatory. Besides the professionals, there are literally thousands, perhaps millions, of amateur astronomers who comb the night sky on a regular basis, and not one of them has come forward with a picture of some new celestial object in the outer Solar system. Don't you think any one of them would love the publicity which would come from having his or her name attached to such a photo?
It is absurd, to me, to think that some mysterious governmental agency could or would try to censor an image in Google Sky. It is flatly impossible for anybody to censor the real night sky. Can't be done. If you wish to explore that particular area of the sky (or any other), go get yourself a telescope, and look up on any clear night.
Don't believe everything your see on the Internet about conspiracy theories.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Markopolo||5/25/11 9:41 AM|
There is other imagery of this same location from other sources. Nothing is hidden. See the .kmz file below for an image from the DSS1 sky survey.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Positive Ion Things||5/26/11 6:45 AM|
Originally Posted By: titan23
Whew! Can anyone find a period in that sentence?
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Gregg1956||5/26/11 9:17 PM|
I have an argument against Google Sky censorship that I've never seen mentioned, a fact that makes it absolutely preposterous that anything is "covered up" in Sky.
The simple fact is this: Google Sky is completely worthless as a tool for planetary astronomy! Using Google Sky you can't prove that Jupiter exists. You can't prove that Mercury or Saturn or Venus exist. You can't prove anything at all about ANY planet!
A static undated image is useless. You need a series of astronomical images with the exact date and time to show the objects orbit. You cannot do that with Google Sky.
A single dot in this "blacked out" area would prove nothing at all. It would be really stupid to cover up a dot.
Effective censorship could only be achieved by "covering up" imagery from every observatory on the planet as well as every amateurs astrophotography. Censoring Google Sky would be a complete waste of time.
Anyone with a basic knowledge of astronomy knows this.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||5/27/11 8:50 PM|
Jeez, Gregg, now you're all applying your head to actually THINK.
Actually, you're perfectly correct, static imagery taken on fairly random dates is not how astronomers do their work, other than all-sky surveys such as POSS1 and 2, and others. An "all-sky" survey is just that, it's like using only a 9" roller brush to paint the inside of a house with one color of paint. There's no detail, no "cutting in" around edges, ceiling fans, and other objects of interest.
Even on Google Earth, there is the "Historical Imagery" time slider, to show how things change with time. In GSky, there is one single image of each location of the Sky (in the visible imagery). This really is useless to conduct anything more than a cursory browse around the sky, anything of even vague astronomical interest would require multiple images, taken with a variety of filters, plus spectroscopic images, taken over a time-series.
Then to really understand a specific object (virtually any object), you'd want to see high-resolution data in other bands of wavelengths (from radio to gamma-ray). The type of object you're observing will likely drive the kinds of imagery you'd find most useful, and visible light isn't always the most useful for many kinds of objects. The IRAS layer, for example, in GSky is not currently state-of-the-art high-resolution IR imagery. It was wonderful, ground-breaking technology at the time it was launched in 1983, but compared to current IR space-based imagery, it is relatively coarse, at best. It's nearly 3 decades old, a lot of improvements have been made in those intervening years.
To get back to your fundamental point, though, which I'm not aware has been put forward before in such a way, to me it is ludicrous to even consider that "THEY" would try to censor a fairly big chunk of the GSky imagery. It says more about the person putting forward such an argument than it does about "THEM". Not to belittle your argument, Gregg, it is true and does have merit, but the most powerful argument is that "THEY" cannot censor the night sky itself. Hundreds of professional astronomers are using very sophisticated hardware to comb the night sky, every night. Thousands, perhaps even millions of amateurs are doing the same, with equipment from pretty basic all the way up to hardware which rivals the professional's.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Gregg1956||5/28/11 8:56 AM|
Originally Posted By: Markopolo
...the most powerful argument is that "THEY" cannot censor the night sky itself.
Well, yeah, there is that. I've pointed that out in replies before, and I know you have many times. They never seam to have a come-back for that one either.... but I just wanted to throw this argument out there in the hope that it might get through to somebody, that it might start someone down the path to logic and real research into actual facts.
I saw a YouTube video where a guy was "proving" that an object in another area of DSS is "Nibiru". The video zoomed in to the general copyright at the bottom of the Sky window and the guy announced "This is where Nibiru was in 2007". (The object, by the way, was an internal reflection, an artifact that doesn't even exist in the real universe.)
I had to laugh. Where was Jupiter in 2007? If you looked for it just once every night there are 365 answers to that question. If you look at Jupiter once a night for one complete orbit around the sun (11.86 years) you'll need a set of about 4,331 coordinates. Most believers don't seem to realize just how transient planets and minor planets are.
One final note for those who may not know: the DSS Sky Survey was completed in 2006, making it impossible to include imagery from 2007. Google launched Sky in Aug. 2007 and therefore must have aquired the imagery sometime that year, hence the general copyright notice for 2007. The DSS imagery is mostly from the 80's and 90's but some of it is as old as the 1950's.
Which is, of course, another reason it would be silly for "them" to hide anything in Google Sky.
|Re: Alien craft approachin from vicinity of HD47767||PaPa NoMaDiC||6/3/11 1:50 AM|
hey, how do i add an info icon to sky? i have something u really need to c regarding the blue,...thing.
|Re: Alien craft approachin from vicinity of HD47767||ET_Explorer_2012||6/3/11 1:54 AM|
Welcome to GEC
Creating a placemark: http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=22811#Post22811
|Re: Alien craft approachin from vicinity of HD47767||PaPa NoMaDiC||6/3/11 1:56 AM|
|Re: Alien craft approachin from vicinity of HD47767||ET_Explorer_2012||6/3/11 2:02 AM|
Sky Data Error
See this link: http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1292281#Post1292281
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||sceptical007||7/6/11 5:26 AM|
There must be a perfect reason why the rectangle is covered. Be it for our own safety or our own sceptisism.
But alas why speculate? If its going to come to an end, who and how are you going to lobby to stop the end of the world. Your local MP/Senator/Govenor/Government Representative is really going to listen and help you... Do you think he can help himself if its all going to end?
Do you think that the president, and all the world powers are going to go to some remote mountain and lock themselves into a capsule. But with the effects that are due to hit this planet, the capsule will eventually crack and distort like the channel tunnel and be a living grave. So best take the hit when it happens and be happy for the life you have lived to this date, and dont be scared of dying.
Our time may have come due to scientific experiments, or outside influences. Just accept the fact and deal with your end. Be in a place where it will be profound for you. Be at peace when peace comes. Dont try and run, as stress and panic will just delay and make you piss and shit yourself to the coming end.
Be strong and be a HUMAN, and be intelligent enough to understand we have ruined ourselves as a race, and this planet needs to move on.
Regards and blessings
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding somethi||sceptical007||7/6/11 5:40 AM|
OMG. That is certainly a good question. Do they draw the curtains every night!!!LOL
Have you seen the centre light of our galaxy in the night sky?
I feel that the stars are there definately, but the middle of our Galaxy ISNT...
This big ball of light that we keep seeing in photos (other galaxies) doesnt exist in our galaxy, and we keep looking at the photos, but has anyone tried to look into the night sky for a big light ball that is the center??? Light doesnt deterioate, so why cannot we see the middle if we can see the milky way? I feel our life is within a VERY small galaxy and our Solar system is very unique to a whole big can of worms out there. If not our Solar system is a spiral unique unit spinning on its own going towards another star system. Hence the Rectangle blank on google earth, and hence the denial we have another planetary body coming to us. Its us thats moving, not that these bodies are coming..... Think about it.
Space 1999 is so true...The moon is travelling, and so is the whole Solar system.
Just food for thought.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||RennyRen||8/28/11 7:37 PM|
Originally Posted By: RennyRen
Could be Nibiru. Acording to some info about 6 yrs ago "NIBIRU passes earth thru the Asteroid Belt between Jupiter and Mars". I think the reason as to why It's covered is for top secret reasons. Here is the rest of the info on Nibiru
from this site bellow:
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Gregg1956||8/28/11 8:14 PM|
Nibiru does not exist, regardless of what "satansrapture" may have to say. (I didn't bother to visit.)
We know for an absolute fact that no planet is headed towards Earth. The absence of gravitational perturbation proves this.
Nobody can censor the night sky (and nobody has censored Google Sky). If Nibiru passed the asteroid belt we would have thousands of images from every amateur astronomer on the planet.
Here is Why You Can't Find Nibiru.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||ET_Explorer_2012||9/6/11 7:00 PM|
Originally Posted By: Gregg1956
Curious, how big is planet nibiru?
If Nibiru was the size of Jupiter, there would be no collison, the earth would
simply be swallowed and vaporized:
If Nibiru was the size of Mercury, there would be global destruction on earth. Slim chance that life on earth would flourish again:
If Nibiru was the size of Mars, then earth would be a ball of molten metal
drifting in space:
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Gregg1956||9/6/11 7:43 PM|
Originally Posted By: ET
How much does Santa Claus weigh? How tall is the Tooth Fairy? Where do leprechauns buy their shoes? How fast is a unicorn?
Who is John Galt?
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||ET_Explorer_2012||9/6/11 11:33 PM|
So, What does these have to do with my question? I don't see any comparsion to
what you are talking about.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Gregg1956||9/6/11 11:41 PM|
Think about it. What do all of these have in common?
What's the point in asking if Santa is too fat to fit down my chimney if he doesn't exist?
How big is nibiru? The correct answer is: smaller than a leprechaun but bigger than a dragon.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||ET_Explorer_2012||9/7/11 12:00 AM|
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Lrae||9/7/11 5:07 PM|
Ummmm, did someone just hint that Santa doesn't exist? Blasphemy I say!
Unlike Niby Rue (sounds like a street in France), we have hundreds (or more) of pictures and sightings of Santa. Packages marked with 'From Santa'. I have even seen snow globes with his effigy inside! And front lawns across the US. As a little one, I may have even sat on his knee. (Too long ago to actually remember)
Every year the US Air Force tracks his travels and with the help of one of our favorite software applications, Google Earth, they show millions of youngsters where he is on that trip. (I have actually been inside Cheyenne Mountain and talked with those involved)
Need I say more?
OH, and one last thing... Have you never seen this documentary?
Lets try and keep this civil and stop suggesting that He doesn't exist.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Gregg1956||9/7/11 6:43 PM|
I knew that was the wrong example. I should know better. BobInNC once shot missiles at me for saying that.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Carl Jr.||9/9/11 8:01 PM|
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Markopolo||9/9/11 8:07 PM|
Then you didn't read Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged".
Originally Posted By: Carl Jr.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Gregg1956||9/9/11 8:45 PM|
Egg Zachary. The Fountainhead was my favorite by her though.
To answer your question, Carl, John Galt was indeed a character in "Atlas Shrugged". Although a real person (in the story) nobody knew who he was, as he had.... exhiled himself from society. The question "Who is John Galt?" was asked so many times (in the story) that it became a catch phrase meaning "Who knows?" or "Who cares?" rather than an actual inquiry.
So my use of it was something of a double entendre: John Galt was a fictional character as Nibiru is a fictional planet... or "Who knows? Who cares?"
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Carl Jr.||9/13/11 7:48 PM|
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Razor10||9/22/11 12:47 PM|
Hello!maybe this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3661LUl1Lik&feature=related have something with this cover up at 5:53:27,-6:10:56 or vice versa:)
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||9/22/11 2:32 PM|
That is Venus rising at about 2:15 into the video. Jeez, folks, can't you be the least bit curious about what it is exactly that you're looking at? A simple query HERE shows the location and brightness of Venus in July. Venus is the brightest object in the sky, after the Sun and the Moon. It is not Nibiru, no matter how many uninformed YouTube videos you see.
Originally Posted By: NijeBitno
Furthermore, the bright object (Venus) in the video is nearly 15 degrees away from the location of the missing data at the coordinates you gave. No connection whatsoever.
Good luck, and have fun!
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Gregg1956||9/22/11 7:13 PM|
YouTube astronomers... ya gotta love 'em.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Razor10||9/23/11 3:10 AM|
if all are smart like u Gregg1956, where will humanity came...ups,probably where we are now,near end:)
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||ET_Explorer_2012||9/23/11 4:21 AM|
Originally Posted By: NijeBitno
Surely, humanity didn't come from nibiru, anyhow, nibiru doesn't exist.
Your youtube video shows venus, like markopolo, stated, not nibiru.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Gregg1956||9/23/11 7:58 AM|
I agree. We would be so much better off if there were more stupid people.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||9/23/11 10:09 AM|
I'm doing my part, sometimes more than others.
Originally Posted By: Gregg1956
...I agree. We would be so much better off if there were more stupid people.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Gregg1956||9/23/11 10:56 AM|
Hey, Marko, maybe we could collaborate on a YouTube video revealing that Venus, Eris, Comet Elenin, and CW Leonis are all Nibiru, that this magical object can appear anywhere in the sky, at any time, and disguise itself as a well known object! It's just popping up everywhere, biding it's time until December 2012 when it will finally swoop in for the kill!
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||9/23/11 8:45 PM|
I like it! Actually makes a lot of sense, too, that a mythical, apocalyptic planet-destroyer wouldn't have to obey the ordinary laws of physics like everything else.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Razor10||9/24/11 9:21 AM|
Thx for answer Explorer;)...I am certainly not say that we came from Nibiru, anyway it is another topic:).i find out my self what was in this video what i put also:).i have new video and im courious what is this?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcyI8heM7Pw&feature=player_embedded#!
P.S.1 more thing,who here dont know the facts and true if u say Nibiru dont exist:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2tldkvxVC0&feature=related
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||ET_Explorer_2012||9/24/11 11:22 AM|
Originally Posted By: NijeBitno
So, your saying that anything that comes into our solar system, regardless what it is has to be nibiru. Whether, a comet, one of the earth solar system planets sparkling in the distant or the falling space station, has to or must be nibiru.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Markopolo||9/24/11 11:22 AM|
The second YouTube video (in NijeBitno's link) is a nice, concise explanation of a newly discovered Trojan asteroid, a well-understood phenomenon. It was documented in the peer-reviewed scientific journal "Nature". Mike Brown is an authoritative planetary astronomer who teaches at CalTech, and discusses the new Trojan asteroid in terms we can all understand. No mystery here, no Nibiru. Nice video.
The first YouTube video (in Nije Bitno's link) was not so good. I don't know who the author is, what his qualifications are, or even what he was discussing. It began with what appeared to be a tiff between somebody else who'd posted to his website, or something like that. There were no references to peer-reviewed scientific articles in the video. He had an image of two bright objects without any celestial coordinates or frame of reference, without even a date and time, to help identify what these two objects were. Then, separately, he had an image of Jupiter, which looked perfectly normal to me, and another image which he processed somehow. He talked about "chemtrails", and "dragon tails". He compares two images of Jupiter, and makes much of the fact that the moons are in different locations, but I didn't see date/time stamps to show that the images were taken at the same time. Then there was a series of blurred out/smeared out images of Jupiter which could easily have been the result of poor guiding, poor alignment, or something "jiggled" the telescope when the image was being taken. And he made much of the shapes of these smeared out images. I just didn't get his whole point, and, to be honest, the 27 minute video seemed to be rambling and going nowhere. It seems as though he is a gentleman with a telescope and a camera, but really doesn't understand much about astrophotography or astronomy. Just my opinion, based on his video.
I think I'm about done watching YouTube videos about Nibiru posted by amateurs with little knowledge about astronomy. My time is much better spent watching (and reading) material posted by actual astronomers who know what they are talking about, and refer to real locations in the sky.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Razor10||9/24/11 3:34 PM|
Ok,thx for answers:)
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||efialt||1/12/12 4:32 PM|
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Gregg1956||1/12/12 6:01 PM|
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||J_Xenno22||4/22/12 8:32 PM|
The belief is. This area was originally showing in 2007. spectators and other "Conspirators" believe is was purposely blacked out by google as order of NASA. The belief is that it was the first photo evidence of the Mayan Nibiru, or Elinin theory set in 1995. But what isn't being said here, is that this particular cluster, believe it or not, has actually moved. Google maps, earth n sky aren't updated at frequent. the Nibiru Cluster is moving. Recently NASA began trackin an object near jupiter that is planet sized near the Kupier Belt. So there is something out there. What is it? I Do Not Know. Sometimes it is better to not ask. Those who talk, Don't Know, and those who Know, Don't Talk.
My honest opinion. It is a star or object cluster that has moved from its original location shown here now a a black square where nothing is there. Look it up ya'll. There are things happening in the universe all the time. It's an everchanging thing. Basic Astronomy can tell you that. I think maybe it is Nibiru and it's comet, Elinin. But I cannot prove it. To me, maybe the Mayan texts were mistranslated, then again, maybe not. Just keep your eyes to the stars, get a telescope, make projections for yourself. Anyways, Don't youtube it though, because alot of crazies make silly videos using photoshop n other altering things to make it seem realistic, NASA knows what is going on, they will explain all when the world is ready to know, that I can Guarantee.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||ET_Explorer_2012||6/10/12 7:37 AM|
J_Xenno22, quote "My honest opinion. It is a star or object cluster that has moved from its original location shown here now a a black square where nothing is there. Look it up ya'll. There are things happening in the universe all the time. It's an everchanging thing. Basic Astronomy can tell you that. I think maybe it is Nibiru and it's comet, Elinin. But I cannot prove it. To me, maybe the Mayan texts were mistranslated, then again, maybe not. Just keep your eyes to the stars, get a telescope, make projections for yourself.
:-x This Nibiru thing is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo boring, there is more interesting things in the night sky, than this a hypothetical nibiru fantasy.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Gregg1956||6/11/12 10:19 AM|
Quote from ET_Explorer_2012 in this post:
On facebook, I believe there is a Nibiru, on GEC, I don't believe
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Wildman79||8/30/12 8:48 AM|
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Xoco_Latl||8/30/12 11:00 AM|
Quote from Wildman79, "It's Nibiru"
No such thing, unless you have credible physical proof that it does exist
without going to youtube. Which a lot of the videos on youtube aren't real
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Дмитрий Михайлов||10/25/12 3:51 PM|
why is it covered?? black layer hiding something
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||ET_Explorer_2012||10/25/12 5:10 PM|
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Gregg1956||10/25/12 6:44 PM|
Also, see my Three Stooges as Censors analogy.
Nyuck nyuck nyuck.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||TJL 3rd||11/2/12 6:31 AM|
Moving yes lol and on its way out of our solar system ....
Good bye my friend...
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||TJL 3rd||11/2/12 6:32 AM|
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||TJL 3rd||11/2/12 8:28 AM|
NIBIRU SKY UNBLACKEN !!!!!
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||BeadieJay||11/2/12 9:45 AM|
Hi TJL 3rd and welcome to the Google Earth Community.
If you have something to add to this thread, please edit your post rather than creating a new reply, as it can be considered as spamming.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Gregg1956||11/3/12 12:08 PM|
This video is a joke. The guy doesn't know anything at all about astronomy or astrophotography, and doesn't even know what he's looking at or where the image came from. Yet, somehow, he thinks he's qualified to arrive at a conclusion: "this is Nibiru!" His entire premise is this: this spot was blank, now there's a big dot there!
Yeah, okay Jethro. Maybe it's a mythical doomsday planet, one that is supposed to be here in less than two months, yet is magically invisible to us and has no gravitational effect on our planets.
But I don't think so.
There are ways to identify objects in Google Sky. Check out this tutorial. The object in question is HD 39634 Pulsating Variable Star. It hasn't moved since 1955. Anyone can verify this for themselves.
But let's take a look at Jethro's source. This is where he got the image:
You'll find the SLOOH images in the Layers section of Sky. it's a network of telescopes operated by amateur astronomers. (Judging by the images, I'd say it's relatively small personal telescopes being used.) You don't have to zoom way out, then back in, as demonstrated in the video. All you do is click on the image and wait a few seconds for the overlay to load. Poor Jethro. He's not even very good at operating Google Sky.
So what is this LBN 985 that so mystified the guy in the video? It's just an HII region, also known as LBN 211.92-14.84, that is located in the area of the SLOOH placemark. Nothing mysterious.
You know what makes this YouTube video even more stupid? He doesn't even have the right spot. The other morons on YouTube think that "Nibiru" is slightly north east of his location. The "Prove" GEC Layer placemark that he refers to was a claim that the chopped off star at the border somehow "proves" it's "blacked out". Balderdash. A missing image has the same effect.
Anyway... I included a "radio button" overlay in the attached kmz. You can switch back and forth between a 1955 image and one from the year 2000. This star didn't move for 45 years and it's not moving now. You can also verify this using the amateur images in the SLOOH placemark. Look at different dates. The star doesn't move. (Ironically, Jethro provided proof that he's wrong.)
I hope you enjoyed this reply. I certainly had fun making it.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||smile121||11/7/12 7:31 AM|
It was only recently I found out 'The Vatican' own almost all our?...the World's Space Observatories!...? and they have full non-disclosure on all Info gained!..?
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Gregg1956||11/7/12 10:23 AM|
I just don't understand how anyone can take a ludicrous claim like that seriously.
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Markopolo2||11/7/12 4:38 PM|
Hello, smile121. The Vatican does indeed own and operate an observatory, but it is not a space observatory. HERE is a link to the Vatican Observatory's website, with further links to the people who run the project, and about the 1.8m Alice P. Lennon telescope which is located at the Mount Graham International Observatory in Southeast Arizona, USA. There is lots of information at the Vatican Observatory's website, you might want to browse around a bit.
Good luck, and have fun!
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Karl Dickinson||11/18/12 10:28 AM|
I am new to this, but if they are tracking Elenin, why can't we track it ourselfs. I find it strange that the covered patch on Google sky of which they say is a glitch in the patchwork. Considering that is where Elenin is at this point in time. do they think that we are all stupid or is it just me. Has anyone else noticed any other parts of the sky that has been patched?
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Karl Dickinson||11/18/12 11:14 AM|
http://darkstarastrology.com/comet-elenin-astrological-ephemeris-2011-2012/ Im not saying it is, im not an astronomer but the similarities are strikingly the same as the bottom of the covered patch on google sky, don't you think so?
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Gregg1956||11/18/12 12:51 PM|
I didn't bother to click on the link you provided because astrology is pseudoscience and can't possibly be used to track a comet. Whatever they are telling you on that website is lies and misinformation.
If you follow astronomy, like I do, you'd know that comet Elenin broke up into tiny pieces a long time ago, when it got near the Sun. The only people keeping Elenin alive are the uninformed doomsayers who want you to believe a dead comet is somehow involved with a nonexistent doomsday planet.
If you want to learn about real astronomy you should read what real astronomers are saying. I'll provide some links if you're interested.
There are a gazillion posts here explaining the missing image in GSky. There are lots of missing images. Nothing is being "covered up". All the original imagery is available to the public from many sources.
Comet Elenin Gone
Elenin - 2012Hoax
Missing Images - see Sky Data Problems Compendium and read this post.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Karl Dickinson||11/18/12 2:42 PM|
Yes thankyou i would apreciate those links, like i said i am new to this but have always had an interest in astronomy, but haven't had much time till now.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Karl Dickinson||11/18/12 2:58 PM|
I would also like to know why Gsky does not allow you to view the planets in our solar system.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Gregg1956||11/18/12 3:32 PM|
You can view the planets in G Sky. Turn on the "Our Solar System" layer. It's usually on by default. Click on any planet in the Layer panel and it will take you to that planets current position. Planets move constantly and will have a new set of coordinates every time you open GSky.
Read the links I gave you in previous reply if you haven't already. You can do a search for "elenin breaks up" and you'll find several articles from main stream media as well as astronomy sites. Stay away from sites like "above top secret" and "godlikeproductions" because they are conspiracy sites dealing in unsubstantiated claims and nonsense.
Sites like Universe Today and Space.com, are very credible sites to get current info about astronomy. Do you want to do something really cool tonight? Join the Virtual Star Party on Google Plus. It's live viewing of the night sky from several telescopes. Astronomers are on hand to talk about what you're seeing. It's every Sunday after it gets dark on the west coast.
Welcome to the GEC.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Gregg1956||11/18/12 3:49 PM|
One more thing Karl. If you're interested in viewing planets, and if you have clear skies tonight where you live, you can easily see one with your own eyes. Go outside about an hour after dark and face east. Jupiter will be the brightest object you see. (There's bound to be a view of it on the Virtual Star Party too.)
Click image to enlarge.
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|Re: Strange Star||HOGSTER||12/3/12 8:39 AM|
Shhhhhhh Top Secret. We're not supposed to know!
|Re: Strange Star||ET_Explorer_2012||12/3/12 9:17 AM|
Why because its Cocoa Nibiru
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||rooster83||12/12/12 11:06 AM|
if u look at the bottom of this image u will see cords for this this is what was behind the black patch a few years ago its moved and also if u look on windows world wide telescope its on there also but in a different loction but not to far from where this is now which proves its moving windows ww telescope cords .....06 08 55 22 47 21 new cords are on pic for google earth
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Gregg1956||12/12/12 3:39 PM|
Uhhhhhhhh.......... what? I have no idea what you're trying to say, but I know this: you can't prove anything is moving with G Sky or WWT. It can't be done. Period. End of story.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||greg baty||12/18/12 4:47 PM|
its planet x....
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Gregg1956||12/18/12 5:05 PM|
On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:47:41 PM UTC-7, greg baty wrote:
its planet x....
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|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Andrew Cameron||1/27/13 9:17 PM|
|Re: why is it covered?? black layer hiding something||Markopolo2||1/28/13 10:42 AM|
Have a look at THIS post for a good explanation about why it's not Nibiru.
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|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Google Craig||2/13/13 3:09 PM|
Let's lighten up folks. Everybody has opinions, and beliefs, and many are different. Let's not assume someone shares the same belief as you, and respect other's opinions or beliefs.
This thread is about imagery, so let's keep to the topic.
|Re: Strange sights in the sky?||Hill||2/14/13 8:05 AM|
This thread was originally a compilation of many threads I created some time ago. It was locked at one time because it is too long a thread to deal with except as a read only thread.
So I am locking it again but leaving it at the top so the content is easy to access.