|NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||spitfirexyz||4/2/06 6:34 PM|
Nato Hawk sites in Denmark • Germany • Italy • Spain • Greece
Placemark folders organized by country
|Re: Hawk missile Nato sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||tommele||4/11/06 12:18 PM|
Nice collection, with the updated data in germany you can see high details in some of the sites. The green domes for protection of the hawk missile-launchers are clearly visible, sometimes (like in Kleinhartpenning on the western launch pad) you can even see the missiles themselves (or at least you can guess...).
On the Netherlands border, there are many former Nike-Sites, once operated by the Belgian Army in Germany. Both placemarked sites were abandoned after the german reunification. I could not find the radar-sites though.
|Re: Hawk missile Nato sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||spitfirexyz||4/11/06 1:48 PM|
Some sites in the Munich area were more or less active at the time
these photos were taken.
The easiest way to see if a site is (was) active is to look at the missile storage area.
You can find the the location of the radar-sites by downloading the kmz
file that you'll find here
|Re: Hawk missile Nato sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||stochelo||4/19/06 7:24 AM|
Are those Hawk batteries?
EDIT: placemark deleted, added to the main post.
|Re: Hawk missile Nato sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||spitfirexyz||4/19/06 8:46 AM|
As you can see by the attachment I'd say definitely yes.
Thanks, nice find. I'm not sure but this is a BOC site.
I've searched for Hawk Batteries in Spain
but I've found only sketchy informations about them.
It's just a matter of finding the first one... :-)
found another battery sw of your find
|Re: Hawk missile Nato sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||stochelo||4/19/06 8:57 AM|
Thanks for your reply!
|Re: Hawk missile Nato sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||spitfirexyz||4/23/06 2:55 AM|
Updated with a few Patriot and Hawk batteries in Germany,
some new (active) Hawk and Nike batteries in Italy
and two Spain Hawk batteries (thanks stochelo )
|Re: Hawk missile Nato sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||spitfirexyz||5/17/06 4:37 PM|
Updated with another Patriot battery in Germany
and two (active) Nike sites in Turkey
|Re: Hawk missile Nato sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||spitfirexyz||5/30/06 9:12 AM|
In this placemark you'll find the 3D models of the following Hawk sites:
Hohenfels, • Maßberg Schweinfurt, • Kirchdorf Haag ( • tower sites).
(Remenber to toggle ON the "terrain" layer)
Enjoy the scenery.
|Re: Hawk missile Nato sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr) *DELETED*||spitfirexyz||6/27/06 3:57 PM|
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|Re: Hawk missile Nato sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||Divefreak||8/8/06 12:38 PM|
Denmark has had initial 4 Hwakbatteris, than 8 Hawk Batteries max, later reduced to 6.
These batteries were located on old Nike sites and near Airstations. But they are hard to spot
The Danish Airforce used the ressources of the dismantled Nike units to form a second HAWK wing in the western part of the country (Luftvaernafdeling Vest with HQ and DSU at Karup). The four missile squadrons continued the numbers 531 to 534 of the old NIKE wing. Two batteries of the new HAWK Wing West were deployed at Odense-Hjorup on the isle of Fyn and one battery each was placed at Karup AFB and Skrydstrup AFB on Jutland.
|Re: Hawk missile Nato sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||spitfirexyz||8/8/06 1:47 PM|
Nike Kokkedal in Denmark
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||spitfirexyz||8/16/06 2:52 AM|
Updated with Hawk sites in Schleswig Holstein, Niedersachsen and Hessen.
Some new placemarks in the Rheinland-Pfalz area.
A BIG thank you to the folks of the flarakgruppe31 for their kind help (thank you Elmar)
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||JesperExatec||9/5/06 12:23 PM|
I been looking at the spots you picked out I Denmark
No1 Is the Hawk battery “Middelgrundsfortet” just right to our capital Copenhagen, this is an old fort constructed in 1890-95 and was taken out of use by the army in 1984 and is now a tourist attraction. You can visit the website http://www.aok.dk/profile?fid=9&id=7978 for more info (in Danish)
No2 is the Nike (where ever that is) I’m pretty sure it is just a normal farm called Selested Mose, if you want to look it up visit http://www.krak.dk and type in “gunderødvej” in the textbox “Hvor” then find no15 on the list of residents at the road “gunderødvej” when you get a map press the bottom “luftfoto” then you should be able to se a farm called “Pilegård” the thing you call a Nike is just northwest of there. I could be wrong but I don’t think that the farmer at this farm has anything to do with missiles or what so ever, but then again I could be wrong.
No3 is the Hawk battery Copenhagen, actually Copenhagen is our capital, and it is a little north the your Hawk battery, the place you found is called “Søvang” it is the name of the small town (with somewhere around 1500 inhabitants) just east to this Hawk battery. But ones again you found a farm, you can look it up if you like, same website as before this time you type in “Landmand Jan C Zibrandtsen” in the textbox “Hvad” just so that you know it “Jan C Zibrandtsen” is the farmer that lives here I know this because “Landmand” means “farmer” in Danish. But I will give you this, between the city Søvang and the farm just west of the little forest where you can see that the landscape is shaped as stripes with something that looks like concrete walls in each end, this is actually a shooting range. If you use the website that I told you about earlier and use the bottom “Kombinationskort” you can see that it is called “Skydebane” witch is the Danish word for shooting range. You can put that on your map, I won’t hold that against you.
Further more I’m sorry to point out that NIKE it is not a missile we use in the Danish army anymore, we use Hercules. And the old Hawk missiles are now replaced with DEHawk.
If you want to se REAL DEHawk missiles I found some at “Skalstrup airfield” but you cant use Googleearth because you cant zoom in, but if you use the earlier mentioned website and write “Vintermarken” in the textbox “Hvor” and pick one of the two possibilities by selecting “kort” and then select “Kombinationskort” now you click yourself a little north. Thene you will find “Skrydstrup” and in the southeast corner you see 6 grey dots, this is in fact DEHawks, the airstrip next to the military compound has nothing to do with the army, it is a civil airport. This my friends is the real thing. I’ve be living next to this airforcebase for 10 years, I should know.
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||spitfirexyz||9/5/06 3:57 PM|
Thank you for your information about the DeHawk and the other sites.
Regarding "Søvang" or whatever is the name of the small town, maybe that now the place
is a farm but I'm sure that this was a Hawk site.
You can find similar sites if you type, in www.krak.dk, "Store Heddinge".
Move to the east and on the coast, you'll find this. The place is called Tommestrup (not sure).
If you'll follow the coast in the south direction you'll find another site near the town of Lille Heddinge
I'm also sure that the place near Pilegård is a Nike (Ajax and/or Hercules) launching area.
In www.krak.dk if you click on n15 of the road “gunderødvej”, is a couple of clicks to the east.
According to this page it was used by the Eskadriller 531 (NIKE) (here the place is called Gunderod?)
You can find another area like this, north of Store Heddinge, near Sigerslev.
Sometimes Nike launching areas have been transformed in Hawk sites like in this case (Roskilde-Skalstrup...?)
You can find another two DeHawk batteries: the first one south of the Karup airbase (Eskadrille 532, 533, 542)
and the second one north of the Skrydstrup airbase (Eskadrille 534).
Informations, and a movie, about the DeHawk here
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||spitfirexyz||9/11/06 2:57 PM|
Thanks to a GE recent update the following sites in northern Germany
are now visible, sharply and clearly, in High Res.
• Diemelsee Flechtdorf (radar sets and launchers in place)
• Wesselburen - Deichhausen
|Military Areal and Training Base- OPTIMAL||Hackennose||9/28/06 3:11 PM|
|Re: Military Areal and Training Base- OPTIMAL||spitfirexyz||9/28/06 5:59 PM|
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||Divefreak||11/16/06 4:02 AM|
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||spitfirexyz||11/16/06 6:29 AM|
Yes, yes I know but they are still in low res #]"%¶^@!!
(I don't like placemarks in low res, 'cause you get only a multicoloured stain)
Meanwhile here are some pics taken from www.krak.dk
Store Heddinge area
|I was here||Majestic7177||1/31/07 1:50 PM|
I was here, almost 10 years ago... When i was a soldier
|Re: Hawk missile Nato sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||FLAK88||2/6/07 1:15 PM|
Hawk in Spain? Busca, busca...
|Re: Hawk missile Nato sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||spitfirexyz||2/7/07 2:27 AM|
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||spitfirexyz||3/25/07 3:57 PM|
Added to some Hawk and Nike placemarks the very cool range rings effect first used by SOC in his SAM sites collection.
This effect gives a very clear graphic visualization of the Cold War layered air defense.
(KML Circle Generator http://dev.bt23.org/keyhole/circlegen/ )
|Re: Hawk missile Nato sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||lind1391||4/6/07 11:08 AM|
None of the danish sites are active today, since all Hawk and Dehawk systems were killed in the last defence budget.
|Re: Hawk missile Nato sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||lind1391||4/6/07 11:13 AM|
old Nike site
|Re: Hawk missile Nato sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||lind1391||4/6/07 12:36 PM|
Another old Hawk site:
two 150mm canons from german ww2 battleship "Gneisenau".
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||Mindmelt35447||6/20/07 1:52 AM|
You can remove the Hawk sites in Lich, Germany
and Gießen, Germany.
The site near Lich is no longer a hawk site.
It is now a landfill.
The hawk site near Gießen has been abandoned some years ago.
Only ruins left...
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||spitfirexyz||6/22/07 6:16 AM|
Unfortunately this is the fate that await all these sites :-(
Many of them have been demolished or converted to a different use:
a caravan-camping park (Steyerberg)
a Naturpark (Maasholm-Oehe-Schleimünde)
a Cold War Museum (Stevnsfortet)
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||gleasel||7/24/07 3:08 PM|
does anyone know of any underground sites in canada?
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||spitfirexyz||8/3/07 1:29 AM|
Updated with some Nike mountain sites in Northern Italy
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||nsdoby||8/25/07 6:41 PM|
I commanded the HAWK site at Grafenwoehr, Germany, in 1967-68. I am sure that it was much closer to 49 degrees 41' 2.47" N 11 degrees 40' 30.09' E than the place where you have it. At that time, it was A Battery, 6th Battalion, 60th Air Defense Artillery. It was located very close to the west end of the range.
Your placement of the HAWK battery at Amberg, Germany, is as close as I can come to its location until Google provides a higher resolution image. That was B Battery of the same battalion, and I was a Lieutenant there until I assumed command of the Grafenwoehr battery. The placement of the batteries at Hoenfels is correct. They were our "C" and "D" batteries.
Following my tour in Germany, I was reassigned to Korea, where I commanded C Battery, 4th Battalion, 44th Air Defense Artillery. It is at 36 degrees 56' 33.95 N, 126 degrees 34' 06.73" E. The Tactical site is mostly obscured by clouds, and some of the administrative site can also be seen to the east-north east. You can follow the road down from the Tac Site, around the helicopter landing pad, and into the administrative area.
Thanks to the person who located the HAWK battery east of Osan Air Force Base. I had not been able to find it. That was our A Battery.
The HAWK Battery at Kunson is properly placed. That was B Battery. Somewhere along the coast between C Battery and B Battery was our D Battery (low resolution in this area). I have not yet located it, nor our Headquarters Battery at a place Americans called "Reno Hill."
Glad to have found your data. Good work
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||spitfirexyz||8/28/07 9:27 AM|
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||CaptSquid||9/15/07 5:21 PM|
The particular HAWK missile site at Brimingen was refered to as Hisel by those of us in C Btry, 2/62 ADA, 32d AADCOM, USAREUR & 7th Army.
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||OKIE666||9/24/07 11:36 PM|
The HAWK battery at Ockstadt (Near Friedberg, Germany) was:
Battery C, 6th Missle Batallion, 562nd Artillery
From the more current photos, it looks like it has been turned into an ammo dump.
The people who worked at that site actually lived at Ray Barracks Kaserne, which is at 50 degrees19' 28.50" N 8 degrees 45' 00.70" E.
The HAWK site near Gießen was Battery B, 6th Missle Batallion, 562nd Artillery.
The HAWK site near Wildflicken was Battery D, 6th Missle Batallion, 562nd Artillery.
The HAWK site near Fulda was Battery A, 6th Missle Batallion, 562nd Artillery.
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||grayman262||11/8/07 6:37 PM|
C Btry 2/62 in Hisel looks the way it did in 1981, except slightly overgrown and no equipment. I can even see the steps I used leading from the maintenance barn to ICWAR.
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||sgtjasper||12/1/07 8:25 PM|
I was stationed at Werhein, Germany in 1967&68. Do you know the name of the military post? Part of the 3rd infantry was also there.
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||nsdoby||12/9/07 6:44 PM|
Google has provided higher resolution images of the area Southeast of Amberg, FRG.
Your location of the Amberg Battery was very close. It is at the North end of the tactical site. Directly south is the "Ready Building." Distinctive in it's shape. The Missile Assembly building is due south of the ready building. There are other buildings that have been built since I was there.
When I was in HAWK in Germany (1966-68) that was B Btry, 6th Bn 60th ADA.
You can clearly see the two launcher section sites, one to the northeast and the other to the southeast of the ready building, with the hardstands for the pallets of reloads.
Once again, excellent work. How did you get the location of the Amberg Battery? You were very, very close.
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||BDUBS||12/15/07 4:33 PM|
excuse the rookie question, but are these still active and why were they needed?
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||spitfirexyz||12/16/07 9:30 AM|
Taken from the paper:
Hermann Hagena, Patriot and MEADS: the Transatlantic Dimension 3 November 2003 (Final)
The Current Political and Technical Debate on Missile Defense
in the United States and Missile Defense Option for Europe
"...Since the sixties, a large number of NATO countries have operated both the medium altitude air defense
system HAWK; a smaller number of the nuclear-tipped NIKE designed for higher altitudes
defense against aircraft. Together, these US systems formed the NATO Integrated Air
Defense (NATINAD), organized in two belts along the Iron Curtain...
...The HAWK batteries formed the first belt with a Low and Medium Engagement Zone (LOMEZ); behind
the HAWKS and partly superimposed, a NIKE belt defended the HIMEZ (High and Medium
Engagement Zone). Fighter aircraft were assigned to attack penetrators in the rear of the HIMEZ
and to cover the flanks of the belts..."
Hawk system has been phased out in Germany and Denmark and is still in use in Italy and Greece.
Paper download here
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||guyfang||12/20/07 9:49 PM|
The HAWK site you have marked in BAMBERG (49-55' 23.58 N 10-55' 17.29 O) is the "old" C-3/7 site. The "new" site is the one located at 50-01'47.92N 11-03'25.65 O. Some time in the 1990's it became D-36 ADA. Later, the site was sold or given to the Catholic Church. It was at first a Monastery, but that did not work out. It seems as though there is a shortage of Monks. Now the site is a "Rest and Recooperation" site for the Catholic Church. Several Nuns live there and where the ROR used to be, they have built a chapel. The moter pool building burned down, set on fire by German vandels. The Maintenance building has been added onto the back side. I stop up there several times a year with my motorcycle and talk with the nuns. The "old" site became a training area that is not used much anymore.
Take care all, and have a nice X-mass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||dogita||12/28/07 10:12 AM|
today I am browsing google earth for HAWK Sites.
I found out, that your placemark of HAWK Battry Delmenhorst seems to be wrong. The only way i can imagine this location, is a former NIKE Site. I will try to find all locations of SAM WING 35.
(could not be log in as farina in this community, threfore dogita.)
No "J", No "Play"
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||slimjim5253||2/7/08 8:17 PM|
I was stationed here in Butzweiler from June 80-83 and it was one of my best duty stations in my 20 years in the Army. You can see the barracks to the left of the site. The brown square was the basketball/tennis court. The small building at the 10 oclock position with the white roof was the raquetball court. The big building was the three story barracks with a suana and weight room in it.
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||CaptSquid||2/24/08 10:33 AM|
The IHAWK (former Nike-Hercules) site listed as Brimingen is actually in Hisel. I was stationed in that Battalion (2d Battalion, 62d Air Defense Artillery) from 79-81.
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||sjburke||2/28/08 5:58 AM|
Yow! What a piece of work! I have been enjoying wandering around Google Earth for a while now, and with a little research, have been able to locate the kaserne I was stationed at from 1969-1971. I was pretty proud of myself, and having found this forum am indeed humbled by the extensive work! You actually have the tac site location for B Btry, 6th MSL Bn, 60th Arty. Thank you. (Your label: Hawk Btry-Regensburg) The rear area was named Pioneer Kaserne (a converted german military base) in Regensburg, Germany. (49-00-18.09 N, 12-07-21.51 E).
|Re: Hawk missile Nato sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr) *D||Jazzro1979||3/15/08 4:15 AM|
There is a mistake... 25917 Leck is not a HAWK site... since 2005 it is a PATRIOT site... you should correct the entry on the map of google map
54°47'25.91"N 8°57'20.55"O is the location
Barnstorf Patriot Btry moved from 52°43'03.72"N/8°39'49.59"O to the upper location
Barnstorf is no more
trust me, i'm working on it
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||Felippo||7/2/08 3:01 AM|
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||rwalczer||7/29/08 3:16 PM|
Il sito che state osservando è una base militare che prima di essere dismessa era una postazione antiaerea di militari Italiani!
Attualmente è gestita dal COESPU di Vicenza, e non ci sono installazioni o armamenti presenti!
Sindaco (Mayor) di Longare (Vicenza) Italy
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||spitfirexyz||7/30/08 3:45 AM|
Mayor Walczer is probably referring to the dismissed Hawk site of San Rocco di Longare
at 45°28'23.24"N 11°35'29.60"E.
Back in the days it was the TAC site of the 8 btry - 5rgt 2Grp of the Italian Army.
Grazie Sindaco, thanks for the info.
@ Felippo, Jazzro1979, CaptSquid etc. the collection needs some cleaning up and
maintenance work. I'll update it with your info as soon as possible
|Re: Hawk missile Nato sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||SooeDenmark||10/8/08 3:17 AM|
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||DonJLewis||4/4/12 3:24 PM|
slimjim5253 I was a 16E from 82-85 in Butzweiler 2/62. Do we know each other possible?
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||Frederick Roschow||3/30/14 2:24 PM|
Looking for info on Ansbach site dsp 4th Bn 57th ADD a Sp5 Wingfred Green as I have a souviner beer stein for his service there in 71-74. I can be reached at bierkrug...@msn.com
Was stationed at Nike Hercules Headquarters 3rd Msl Bn 68th Arty Snelling AFS Mpls/St.Paul Minnesota 64-66
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||Mark Workman||4/7/14 10:12 AM|
Hi I too was stationed At "Hisel" fro 7/76 through 2/79, I was a 16D at the site. I would love to see who else is out there that eremembers Hisel, I was in germany a couple of months ago and pretty much everything is either deserted or gone now ....
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||Frederick Roschow||4/9/14 10:36 AM|
Thanks for the reply, were there any Nike Hercules sites around you at the your time frame?
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||Ray Cordle||4/9/14 5:04 PM|
I was stationed at Friedberg from Mar. 65 until June 67 with C-6-562 Artillery, Hawk Missiles. Sad to hear it's being used as an ammo dump now.
|Re: NATO Hawk missile sites (De, Italy, DK, Gr)||Johnny Rockit||1/6/15 6:19 AM|
Stumbled on this while searching for old Army buddies, based in Grafenwoehr, Germany during the 1978-1980 period. I was stationed in the DSU for the Hawk radar systems (I-Hawk, IPar, and a couple others that 45+ years have erased from my memories on such short notice/recall)!
I know this is a longshot, but looking for Jim Hawkins & Jay Guzman (from New Jersey), who were also stationed in Graf, but not part of the Hawk program. Both were musicians (Bass & Lead guitarists), as I was (drummer), and we spent a lot of time hanging-out at the Post's Rec Center in the basement (practice rooms were down there) shredding Van Halen, Journey, Boston, etc....ended up with a pretty cranking band, and playing at a few festivals and such. Would love to reconnect with them after all these years.
Sorry this is off-topic, but hope ya'll will tolerate a post from a former Radar Rat!
JR - Orlando, FL