Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player

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Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player dloc 10/5/11 12:09 PM
I have embedded a playlist with 6 videos on my website.  I used the share button to generate the following code:

<iframe width="853" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/videoseries?list=<ID-REMOVED>&amp;hl=en_US" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This works great.  However, it's my opinion that most people will NOT even REALIZE the embedded player contains a PLAYLIST.  i.e. In order to view the playlist you need to hit the playlist button, which brings up the playlist thumbnails.

In fact, the only difference - as far as I can tell - between an embedded player with a single video, and one with multiple videos is that tiny button that may or may not get noticed by the average user.  Not good.

So, my question is this.  Is there a parameter that I am missing that will force the playlist to show up by default when the player first loads?
Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player Klementine 10/5/11 4:38 PM
There is one workaround that I know of which may help, though it involves some compromise. What it will do is to not display the thumbnails in the playlist, but rather the Title and Author of the playlist, and the number of videos in the playlist, along with a BIG playlist icon which looks the same as the little playlist icon on the playbar. All of text will appear in big white bold letters including the word "Playlist" which nobody can possibly miss. This will be displayed between the splash image of the first video, and the playbar, in an area about the same size as the thummnails will take up. Once the Play button is pressed, this block will disappear and operation will be as normal. . But first may I explain something that you may not be aware of, OK? When you get the playlist embed code, we are only offered the version. And what iframe does is that IF the web browser is HTML5 compatable, and HTML5 is turned on for that browser (more on that later) the iframe embed code will load and HTML5 video player which does not require or use Adobe Flash. Otherwise the iframe code will load the Version AS3 YouTube video player which does require and use Adobe Flash. Its pretty much identacle to the video player seen on the YouTube pages. But iframe code loads the AS3 player differently than if we explicitly use AS3
Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player dloc 10/6/11 5:24 AM
Klementine - thank you!  Not exactly what I was looking for but after hours of searching it's certainly MUCH better than what I had.  I just can't believe YouTube hasn't yet spent more time on allowing customizing the appearance of playlists, especially having gotten rid of the custom player option.  Hope they do soon.  Anyways, I appreciate you taking the time to explain all that - big thumbs up :--)  
Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player bembodz 10/15/11 7:51 PM
Websourcellc: I struggle the whole time with the same problem....Could you please find a way to display automatically the playlis items without needing to press the "playlist button"?
Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player Klementine 10/15/11 9:51 PM
For what its worth, I did inquire about this at the Developer's Forum and was told that there are no parameters (public, private, or otherwise) which can be set to  manipulate the thumbnails, and that the button on the video player is only controlable by the End User.
Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player rdthoms 10/19/11 9:40 PM
I am having exactly the same issue - used (and was very happy with) the custom_player and then it gets yanked.  Now I can embed a playlist only you would never know it is a playlist.  Used the tip above and now there is a little icon on the control bar (which does not even have a hoverhelp tip btw) which I guess if you just like to click icons you can figure out it will produce playlist thumbs and controls...  I'll keep poking around for an improvement - please post back if you guys find any great workarounds/solutions.
Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player Klementine 10/20/11 12:05 AM
@rdthoms - at least as of when this thread was started IF we changed the iframe code to object code AND we set autoplay to OFF then there was no way to not see the big white letters that say Playlist.
Agreed that if done the way its given on the playlist sharing options then that button is inconspicious and its not apparent that someone is looking at a playlist. But doing it the way we did it is obvious to see its a playlist.
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If I was really determined to make it look like one of the old custom players then in a cheezy way, I would take a screen capture of the old custom player and put it on the webpage behind the real video player but first make the image big enough to look like its all one video player... then of course I would need to put a lot of thumbfails fron the real playlist over the thumbnails on the image. And who wants to go through all of that?
That old custom video player was cool but it has some quite restrictive qualities. It will only hold 48 or 50 videos, it wont work on fullscreen, it cant be made larger, making it smaller presents problems, and the scripts that run it load very slow. And most of those qualities got complained about alot.
So this one isnt as pretty but I think it works better than the other one did.
And there is no restriction on someone putting a big flashing HTML marquee over or below the video player saying "This Is A Playlist". The way things go anyway the next generation of video player will undoubtably look so cool - under the ocean.... a giant clam and when you push the play button the clam shell will open and inside the clam shell is the video player which looks like a treasure box with gold coins and saphires decorating it  :-)
Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player rdthoms 10/20/11 7:00 AM
OK - here is one hack I found that improves the situation 1%.  Change the src attribute 
from:
to:
src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/p/<playlistID>" (Note PL is not part of the playlistID)

This will make a banner appear that shows the playlist icon and shows the playlist name and tells you how many videos are there.  Unfortunately still no thumbs and that banner goes away as soon as you start playing the video and does not return or activate the playlist controller - so the only real improvement is that the use at least sees (once) that this is indeed a playlist.

@Klementine - I understand there might have been some shortcomings of the custom_player and I could see it being deprecated/unsupported but I wonder why they yanked it (especially before rollout of replacement)?  I figure it should cost nothing to leave it up unless...  Maybe as I was filling out the options for the custom_player there was some poor soul somewhere who had to feverishly look at those options and construct and post the embed code for me??? ;)

Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player rdthoms 10/20/11 7:05 AM
I should  have mentioned above snippet is intended to be used in the iframe code:
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/p/<playlistID>&amp;hl=en_US" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player Klementine 10/21/11 8:14 PM
@rdthoms - 5hats interesting to know. Thanks for the tip. I had tried several combinations at the time but not that one.
What I wonder is have you tried it in an HTML5 mode?
They are doing so much with the playlists and video players lately that Im not suprised at anything and just waiting for all of the dust to settle..... it eventully will.
On the Custom players the official reason was that there wasnt enough demand for them any more. I somewhat questiond that at the time since the link to those pages had been ??? hard to find for over one year already. They did also say later that it might have been a better idea to announce the sunsetting before it set  What you said about shutting it off in the midst of someone using it.... That happened to me recently on another social site. I was embedding a YT video and that site pulled their application right exactly when my embed was processing!.
The othe custom player (the square one) is actually still feasable since it really nothing more than a V2 playlist player. But that wasnt probably the popular one.
I myself just really kind of attribute the whole thing to Software Life Cycle. It happens eventually with all software. They (any software) no longer have the resources and facilities to maintain the old software so everything eventually gets shelved.  8n comparrison.... try to find support for Windows9x or Internet Explorer 4.... gone.
I dont really get upset when these things dont work right as I am not loosing out on much. Not everyone else feels that way and not everyone should feel that way.
But thanks again for your tip. That will certainly make it easier for some.
Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player cbmtrx 11/25/11 6:48 AM
Uhm, yeah I'm shocked at the opacity of Youtube's video embedding process--they seem to be missing the essential point about making embeddable videos AND playlists AND favorites easy for even the layman blogger.

I'm a seasoned web dev/designer and I had to wade through 3rd rate teenager YT vids and boinky threads like these just to understand how to embed a playlist in the first place. And even this feels like a hack.

My god, what a disconnect.

Youtube, you may have earned the traffic numbers but unless you get with the program and make embedding EASY AND CUSTOMIZABLE your usefulness is about to be eclipsed by quicker, nimbler, smarter outfits.

Fairly appalled.
Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player Pepper Rafferty 1/31/12 4:08 AM
Agree with all that has been said, youtube needs to give us a playlist with more options!
Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player tortugaverde 2/10/12 10:24 PM
here here
Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player i40WebStudios 6/5/12 3:53 PM
Hey I got it to work with &showinfo=1  !!!  
example:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/videoseries?list=UU4bTI6xqAGpQnfvg0w3TT9g&amp;hl=en_US&showinfo=1" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This has the first video in the playlist image load with the playlist thumbnails expanded below!
I can NOT believe how there is so little info on this on the web.
I clicked on the link Klementine attached and read about showinfo there.
link: https://developers.google.com/youtube/player_parameters#playlist

Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player Klementine 6/6/12 9:02 PM
Hello i40WebStudios

The showinfo=1 to show the playlist thumbnails by defauly was a recent udate to the YouTube API which tends to be
very dynamic, and any given help file is often likely to be lagging in updates - especially the ones on YouTube Proper
which often times date back to the old and long forgotten, yet colorful AS2 video player.

So the best way to stay on top of what is current for YouTube API is to follow the Developers Forum at:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/youtube-api-gdata
and the API Blog at:
http://apiblog.youtube.com/

there is often some tricks announced ( or un-announced )that nobody else on your block knows about yet ;-)

Regards,
Klementine
Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player rdthoms 6/11/12 12:21 PM
Yes, here is blog post - new features are nice...
http://apiblog.youtube.com/2012/05/youtube-player-now-with-30-more.html
Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player A2Zblogger(Afsal) 9/22/12 5:28 AM
dear here is the solution for you!

http://a2zbloggerz.blogspot.com/2012/09/embeded-youtube-playlist-with.html

please don't forget to comment on by blog! :-)

Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player verdouxkai 1/25/13 1:19 PM
THANK YOU! I've been searching for this for an hour and finally found it. :D

Happy Dance!!!

Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player verdouxkai 1/25/13 1:20 PM
Thank you for this! Been searching for an hour and finally found it!

Happy Dance!

Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player Safety National 2/13/13 9:33 AM
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/videoseries?list=PL8F9DB39E6CFA31E2&showinfo=1" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player Melody Live 2/23/13 9:03 AM
This works great. But I'm wondering if it's possible to control which thumbnails pop up in the main window after watching the complete playlist? Instead of promoting a bunch of random and mostly inappropriate videos for our audience, I just want to show thumbnails of the videos in our playlist. Is that possible?
Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player html5player 3/31/13 1:12 AM
The showinfo only works in the flash as player. It does not affect the html5 player.
btw: the official info at https://developers.google.com/youtube/player_parameters#showinfo is outdated, cause "Note that this functionality is only supported for the AS3 player since that is the only player that can load a playlist." is not true, cause if you click play in an html5player with embeded playlist, the tiny tiny playlist icon appears.
PLEASE google include&activate the playlist control & playlist thumbnails in the HTML5Player by default.
Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player Peder WorstplayerYouTubePlayer Pedersen 7/8/13 12:01 PM
Hi

It doesn´t work I have tried again now, I use playlists on FB (static HTML tab) I have 5 playlists. Visitors must click on the listbutton at the bottom of the player to see the playlist.I can´t configure the player so the playlist is visible all the time. Cant understand why YouTube has so bad players available, maybe it´s possible to use Another player than YouTube player I´m really tired of so much job to find a solution to a Little shit problem.

Anyone who knows a player outside Youtube to use?

All the best/ Peder
Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player Peder WorstplayerYouTubePlayer Pedersen 7/8/13 12:09 PM
Hi again

I tried your code it´s the same for me they must click once at the Little playlist button to get it work. 1 st time they enter your player and click play the playlist dissapear and than you must click at the playlist button to get it work again. Why can´t Youtube have a code so the player looks the same as on youtube? playlist at the left/ right side or the bottom so we could choose.

All the best/ Peder
Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player A2Zblogger(Afsal) 7/9/13 12:21 AM
check this dear Peder

http://a2zbloggerz.blogspot.com/2012/09/embeded-youtube-playlist-with.html

Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player SpyglassSally 7/9/13 6:17 PM
Afsal, I have used that code and when I have your list (PL6B3A5E1C22C42BA8)it displays the video and playlist thumbnails just fine, but when I put in my list (UUy8LLIyURFsZ2xAYdq0w7TA)the Playlist bar is expanded upon loading the page, but no thumbnails are showing. I've attached an image to show how it looks.

What's really crazy, is that if I begin to play the first video, pause it, then press the Playlist button, the bar expands again but this time it has the thumbnails.

Can you (or anyone)help me understand why this is and how I can fix it?

Thank you.

Re: Show Playlist By Default on an Embedded Player A2Zblogger(Afsal) 7/9/13 11:28 PM
Dear SpyglassSally, The playlist code you are telling is wrong the playlist code will start with "PL", I thnik the code you used the channel code, so kindly take your playlist code from your youtube account. If you have not yet created playlist, create a playlist.

I have posted a new post in my blog

How to embed user uploaded videos playlist with thumbnail - See more at:

http://a2zbloggerz.blogspot.com/2013/07/embed-youtube-playlist-for-loading.html

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