|Turn off the recommended videos?? its extremely annoying that everyone can see my previous searches||29bluesky||1/17/11 6:17 PM|
Dont you think this is horrible? Every time I go to youtube it essentially shows all my other searches. I want privacy!!!!
|Re: Turn off the recommended videos?? its extremely annoying that everyone can see my previous searches||anmoose||1/17/11 9:03 PM|
And do note that the cookie you refer to references a username. Not signed in, it doesn't know your username. You don't have one. If I sign out of this account and sign into any one of my other accounts, my "recommended" for this account DO NOT appear on that home page, either before or after I sign in.
|Re: Turn off the recommended videos?? its extremely annoying that everyone can see my previous searches||epontius||1/17/11 9:12 PM|
Sounds like you need relationship counseling.
|Re: Turn off the recommended videos?? its extremely annoying that everyone can see my previous searches||Marc726||1/17/11 9:23 PM|
@anmoose, again, exactly. I haven't been saying anything because I've been agreeing with everything you've said here. And it's because what you've said is precisely how it is.
|GibsonAndVega||1/17/11 9:26 PM|
"What happens when you cold start your browser, NOT signed in, and go to youtube.com?"
I just tried it. I got a home page that included a "recommended for you" module. Several of the videos in that module were ones that I recently watched while signed in.
You are wrong.
|GibsonAndVega||1/17/11 9:28 PM|
"Sounds like you need relationship counseling."You mean me and Moosie?
|anmoose||1/17/11 9:33 PM|
Hardly wrong, since I could easily document it and reproduce it at will, because it's how it happens every single time I do it. Maybe I'm just lucky that I'm using a browser that doesn't make notes of everything I do. My un-signed in home page *never* has a "recommended for you" module. It has no "modules" at all. But of course you'll argue the point until the cows come home anyway.
|anmoose||1/17/11 9:35 PM|
We don't need counseling, we need referees... With clubs...
|GibsonAndVega||1/17/11 9:49 PM|
I just tried something else. While at the home page (youtube.com) I reached WHILE NOT SIGNED IN, I clicked on the "my history" link in the "recommended for you" module and was taken to a page that displayed the last 22 videos I viewed. WHILE NOT SIGNED IN.
Maybe it happens differently for you on your machine, but I was just able to reproduce just what 29bluesky said he saw—an unsigned-in home page displaying recommended videos and viewing history. I have also shown that were wrong about cookies storing viewing history.
Please admit that you were wrong.
|anmoose||1/17/11 9:53 PM|
Just now signed out of my account, on the home page where the "recommended for you" module was right under the subscription module. Didn't even restart the browser, didn't do anything but grab a screen cap. Below is the home page, zoomed back to see all but the very bottom. Do you see "recommended for you"? I sure don't.
|Marc726||1/17/11 9:56 PM|
That's how my page looks when signed out as well. No different.
|anmoose||1/17/11 10:00 PM|
Are we a lucky minority, or are we the only ones who don't have dysfunctional browsers? At least there's comfort in knowing there ARE at least two of us...
|Marc726||1/17/11 10:11 PM|
Indeed it is a comfort and I guess we are lucky. I don't know what is going on with their browsers but when you're signed out you are NOT supposed to be seeing any recommended videos on the homepage. I don't see them when I'm signed out using Opera, FF, IE8 or Chrome. It's the same on all 4 browsers.
|GibsonAndVega||1/17/11 10:11 PM|
That's not what I see, but I have to go to bed now. I'll post screenshots tomorrow.
|epontius||1/17/11 10:14 PM|
>>You mean me and Moosie?No, the OP. Seems he has serious trust issues with his girlfriend.
You are technically both right.
If you aren't signed in...it doesn't have an account to associate the data with...instead stores this generic viewing data locally in a specific cookie.
If you have a browser like FireFox that allows you to see individual cookies by site, you will see that you will have a series of cookies called "watched_video_id_list_<account_name>" (where <account_name> is your account name) and a generic one called "recently_watched_video_id_list"... it keeps track of videos you've watched on that computer with that browser when not signed into an account. If you kill that particular cookie, the recommended module when you aren't signed in will be blank and will show a message that says:
As soon as you watch one video, the "recently_watched_video_id_list" cookie is created and suddenly you will have suggestions based on the one video you just watched in the recommended for you section.
|anmoose||1/17/11 10:36 PM|
Aha! That suggestion to "watch some videos" is what I see, as shown in my screen cap. But since I barely have any use for the home page at all, and don't watch *any* of the generic crap offered before I sign in, it never has any history. That would indicate that before you watch any videos at all, and especially relationship rattling ones, you should sign in. Interesting...
|GibsonAndVega||1/18/11 3:39 PM|
Okay, here they are. The first page is the home page I saw last night after signing out of my YouTube account. As you can see, it does include a "Recommended for You" module. The videos recommended are clearly related to videos I have viewed. There is a link to "viewing history" in that module. When I clicked it, I was taken to the History page in the second image, which shows 22 videos I recently viewed.
Anyway, at this point, 29bluesky has the answer to his question: if you don't want your viewing history to be visible to subsequent users of your browser, you must delete your watched video cookies. Signing out isn't enough.
|epontius||1/18/11 4:11 PM|
Apparently, you've watched a few of the same videos while not being signed in... the watched data is stored in completely different places. By the way, the "viewing history" uses the data from the generic "recently_watched_video_id_list" cookie. If you click the button to clear the viewing history...it kills that cookie.
Of course if you then sign into your account, you'll get your specific recommended videos since the data is stored on YouTube's servers and not stored locally in a cookie on your computer.
|Marc726||1/17/11 6:30 PM|
No one else can see your recommended videos but you. They're based off of your viewing history which also no one else can see but you.
|markimatang||1/17/11 6:31 PM|
Go to your home page. Click “Add / Remove Modules". Un-check “Recommended for You”. Click “Save Changes”.
|29bluesky||1/17/11 7:12 PM|
UH I tried to do the ADD/Remove Modules and unchecked it. Yes it does remove my recommended videos BUT thats only when i am signed in. IF i don't sign in it STILL SHOWS my recommended videos. So when my girlfriend uses my computer for youtube and doesnt sign in SHE CAN SEE ALL THE RECOMMENDED VIDEOS I WATCHED. I have to delete my history EVERY SINGLE TIME I LEAVE YOUTUBE. IT SHOWS YOU RECOMMENDED VIDEOS WEATHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT WHEN NOT SIGNED IN. this is completely backwards and stupid.
|29bluesky||1/17/11 7:28 PM|
I fixed it. I have to delete my history in both my browser and youtube history. IF not my girlfriend will know about all my recent searches WITHOUT even needing to log into my account. This is backwards. My privacy is LESS PROTECTED when signed out. If i stay signed in she can do whatever she wants with my privacy. If i am signed out I have to delete BOTH histories. IS THERE ANY WAY TO TURN OFF THIS RECOMMENDED VIDEOS FOR ALL CIRCUMSTANCES??? How annoying. If you want to ruin alot of relationships just make sure that everyone who uses your computer can track your recommended videos because youtube has made it so easy.
|markimatang||1/17/11 7:29 PM|
Clear your cookies, then use a different browser to watch those ahem videos that you don't want her to see.
|anmoose||1/17/11 7:34 PM|
If you can still see your recommended videos, then you're not as signed out as you think you are. If you're not signed in, YouTube doesn't have the slightest clue who you are. You're some unknown user on some computer. They have no way of seeing your history, OR of recommending anything. The home page is purely generic, with their list of crappy "popular" vids, featured, "trending," etc. There is no personalization at all. There can't be.
|Marc726||1/17/11 7:36 PM|
|anmoose||1/17/11 7:36 PM|
If your browser is saving your history, it's an issue between you and your browser. YouTube has no control over it. Go into the settings in your browser and set it to not save your browsing history.
|29bluesky||1/17/11 7:44 PM|
Thanks guys. I think I am starting to get it. Well I just tried to set up my Safari browser to Private Browsing but that didnt work. The only thing that works is deleting my cookies. Even if i set Safari to private browser. NOPE. youtube still shows recomened videos based on my past viewing without being signed in. Really annoying. I mean what if i was planning a surprise vacation for the family. Oh well the secret is out if i dont delete them cookies.
|markimatang||1/17/11 8:02 PM|
anmoose may have a point about clearing safari history. Even if it doesn't effect the recommended videos someone could go to your Safari history and see everything you watched even on sites other than YpuTube.
|29bluesky||1/17/11 8:03 PM|
I set firefox to private browsing and still it doesnt help. Only deleting cookies does it. Thanks youtube for making my life more difficult and wasting a whole day of my time. All i want is a little more privacy and I have to fight all day long to find out how.
|anmoose||1/17/11 8:06 PM|
|29bluesky||1/17/11 8:07 PM|
I know about deleting history on my browser. Thanks for the heads up though. Someone should mention this to people at you tube. If not its gonna ruin alot of relationships just like facebook/myspace does when lovers see who their others talking to or looking at.
|29bluesky||1/17/11 8:09 PM|
My browser IS set not to track my history. when its set to private browsing it does not track my history. Is there something i am not getting
|GibsonAndVega||1/17/11 8:13 PM|
"If you're not signed in, YouTube doesn't have the slightest clue who you are...They have no way of seeing your history, OR of recommending anything."
Not so. YouTube can still see your cookies from when you were signed in. And they can still give you cookies even though you're not signed in. 29bluesky has it figured out—you have to delete cookies after browsing YouTube to prevent "recommending".
You should try looking at some of your "secret" videos WITH your girlfriend. She might surprise you. Just pretend you've never seen them before.
|anmoose||1/17/11 8:21 PM|
@G&V, this copy of Opera is set to clear cache when I shut it down, but it does NOT delete cookies until or unless *I* manually tell it to do so. When I start it up, not signed in, I get nothing *but* the generic YouTube home page. There are no recommendations, no nothing personal at all. There can't be. Cookies do not save your viewing history or recommendations. When YOU go to youtube.com from a cold start, do you see your recommended videos? Or do you see the generic home page?
|29bluesky||1/17/11 8:21 PM|
Thankyou GibsonAndVega!!!!! You are exactly correct. However if I watched those videos with her she would just walk away crying and have issue of selfesteem. But its not just those "ahem" videos its everything. I cant be the only one annoyed by this.
|GibsonAndVega||1/17/11 8:41 PM|
"Cookies do not save your viewing history..."
They sure do. Go look at your YouTube cookies. You'll find one called watched_video_id_list_yourusername. It contains a list of IDs of recently viewed videos.
|anmoose||1/17/11 9:00 PM|