Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie

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Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 11/15/09 5:42 PM
Some people have video editing programs that they bought, but the majority uses the video editing program already installed on their computer.  The 2 major computer brands (Micrsoft and Apple) have Windows Movie Maker and iMovie standard on all their computers.  My question for YouTubers is what editing program is better, Windows Movie Maker, or iMovie.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 11/15/09 5:44 PM
I just want to be the first person to answer this by saying that Windows Movie Maker is better.  I have used both Mac and Windows and I perfer Windows over Mac, not only overall, but in the catergory of video editing programs.  Windows 7 is a great operating software, and Windows Movie Maker is easy to use and gives the user tons of options to edit and personalize your video.  iMovie is just too complicated, hard to use, and is not worth the price.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie markimatang 11/15/09 5:45 PM
Which iMovie, 6 or 09?
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 11/15/09 5:46 PM
I am talking about all verisons of Windows Movie Maker and iMovie.  New and old.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie rewboss 11/16/09 12:37 AM
I'm surpised that iMovie is "too complicated", given that Macs are specifically designed for the less tech-savvy among us. I've never used iMovie, but, mightlylions1, I'm wondering if you're just unfamaliar with the MacOS. Certainly, from the videos made in iMovie that I've seen, iMovie has at least as many features to "edit and personalise" your videos as Movie Maker does.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie markimatang 11/16/09 10:02 AM

“I am talking about all verisons of Windows Movie Maker and iMovie.  New and old.” Of course you know that iMovie 09 is not a version of iMovie 6. They’re totally different programs and the debate about which is better rages among Mac users. I use both often on the same video.

For a somewhat lame comparison, using iMovie 6 is like making a collage in kindergarten; gather up sheets of colored paper, cut into shapes, and glue together. Drop dead simple unless you peek under the covers for effects, titles, audio editing etc. iMovie 09 is like walking into a university library. Every bit of video (and audio) on your computers several 1TB external hard drives is available with a click of the mouse. That alone adds quite a level of complexity. Then spend a little time learning to crop and rotate video, stabilize shaky video, adjust the brightness, contrast, and color of video. If you can’t find music in your iTunes library that isn’t copyrighted, pop into GarageBand and create your own original score. Yeah, it’s complicated.

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Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie JDoors 11/16/09 10:36 AM
I've only used Windows Movie Maker, which was easy to use and figure out without having to resort to any help files, and the only thing I can add to the discussion is that the latest version, Windows Live Movie Maker, is quite an improvement.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 11/16/09 10:41 AM
@rewboss I am famaliar with all verisons of Mac and Windows because I have used and owned most of them.  About the new versions, Windows Movie Maker in Windows 7 is far better than iMovie in Mac's Snow Leopard operating system.  Windows Vista was an epic fail but at least in all Windows verisons (XP, Vista, Windows 7), Movie Maker has stayed the same and is a good, functional editing program to use.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie rewboss 11/16/09 12:12 PM
Well, what exactly is wrong with iMovie? You say it's too complicated, but what exactly do you find complicated and why?
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 11/16/09 12:51 PM
@rewboss I tried out a Mac computer and tried editing with iMovie and I found that it was hard to add video clips to the timeline and it was hard to edit out the parts of the video you didn't want.  The effects you could add to the video were pretty cool, but not worth the price of the Mac.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie Videodave2 11/16/09 12:56 PM
>but what exactly do you find complicated and why?

I have been using iMovie since version1, which came out without any instructions because it was so intuitive, since then it has gotten a bit more complicated, but, it still is really simple to use. I recently opened up MovieMaker on my wife's PC and it is just about the same as iMovie, my quick impression of it was that it didn't have as good a selection of input and export formats, but, I didn't play with it all that much. It has a bigger selection of transitions which is dangerous for beginners who may show their lack of skill by including unneeded goofy transitions.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie Videodave2 11/16/09 1:03 PM
> I tried out a Mac computer and tried editing with iMovie and I found that it was hard to add video clips to the timeline 

Simply drag and drop. 

>and it was hard to edit out the parts of the video you didn't want. 

Pretty intuitive, although there are multiple ways to do anything I: "split clip" at in point and out point, Highlight, delete Key. There is an alternate way where you set in and out points and use a crop function.

Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 11/16/09 1:24 PM
@Videodave2 you still can't argue that a Mac is cheaper.  Windows (on average) is 800 bucks cheaper than a Mac with the same amount of memory and hard drive space.  If you haven't tried out Windows 7, you should.  It's very much improved and easy to use.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie Videodave2 11/16/09 2:36 PM
PCs are definitely cheaper, but, once you have money invested in a system one doesn't make changes easily. I have played a bit with movie maker on my wife's PC and if I find some things easier to do, there is no reason why one can't do some processing on one computer and then transport to another. I may look into this, but, PC vs Mac is like arguing religion. But, I have programed many different computers starting with a PDP8 using "Assembly" and actual machine code, went to a big main frame IBM and later Sun work stations and  PDP-11. When I retired and chose my home computer, I decided Mac was my best choice and since I'm on my third one now, I am probably not going to switch my loyalties.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 11/16/09 3:24 PM
@Videodave2 ok, but I still like Windows.  You don't know what your are missing by not trying out Windows 7.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie Videodave2 11/16/09 3:32 PM
>You don't know what your are missing by not trying out Windows 7.

Like windows guy in the Mac ad says "trust me".
Actually, I have no say in the matter, the resident PC belongs to my wife, and I know she will not consider Windows 7 until the majority opinion is in agreement with you. Like me, she sees no reason to jump on the latest system when it comes out, rather give it a year or so and listen to what others are saying. So far we have your 1 vote for and I have heard several against. We'll just wait and see.


Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 11/16/09 5:02 PM
The Mac ads on TV are total lies because my Windows computers have never crashed, not even my Vista one.  If you believe everything you hear on TV ads, then drinking Bud Light will make you fly, CASH4GOLD will give you "Quick Cash for your unwanted scrap gold" and "Mighty Putty" is strong enough to hold two Hummers by a paperclip.  Using a Mac is like having a crystal baseball bat.  It looks good, but if you use it too much, it will break.  That is the diffrence between the 2 brands.  Apple computers are known for getting broken, especially the screens.  When I read MacBook reviews on BestBuy.com, almost all the people that complain about something wrong with the Mac, it's about the screen breaking.  Take you Mac if you want, but i'm happy with my Windows 7.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie markimatang 11/16/09 5:47 PM

Well, next time we’re trolling for sturgeon we’ll know what to use for bait but I’m curious as to why we didn’t catch an HD 6.

Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie Videodave2 11/17/09 5:02 AM
I guess the horse is dead, but, I'm going to beat it one more time because I think the reason that I like iMovie is telling. I would guess that most of the younger video makers, have never edited without the aid of a computer. I learned my editing habits doing linear editing, winding tapes back and forth, pause, push record etc. Non-linear editing is a great boost for editing and is the reason that there are so many trying it today, but I find that iMovie fits the style that I had become used to. It seems to me to in many ways mirror the way one had to plan the project flow in the olden days, and some of us old timers are slow to change our ways, and I'm certainly old enough to be the grandfather of a lot of the youngsters on YouTube.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie JDoors 11/17/09 10:06 AM
mightylions1, I disagree that the Mac ads are "total" lies, but they might as well be as they use "lies of omission," "half-truths," and "invented lies."
 
What's the latest one? PC: "Seven won't have any of the problems Vista had."
 
No one at Microsoft would ever say anything like that. No PC maker would ever say anything like that. It's simply an unbelievable thing to say for ANY product. Has Apple ever said that about new releases? Obviously, like any other product, they "fix" things with new releases, but would they say they fixed EVERY problem the previous version had? It's a ridiculous statement from the get-go. Sure, it makes "a" point, and everyone understands that point, but it's a point they invented out of whole cloth.
 
An example of a "lie of omission" is the "moving" ads. "Since I have to move everything anyway, I might as well move to the Mac." Uh, I upgraded to Windows 7 and didn't have to "move" a thing, it just installed and everything worked, so what the hell are they talking about? Oh! If you upgrade from XP, an EIGHT YEAR OLD operating system, you have to do a clean install. How's that work on a Mac? If you have an eight year old operating system on your Mac, can you do a simple upgrade to their latest OS? Will the latest OS even WORK with an eight year old Mac? Oh, we can't include all those boring details in a sixty second ad!      LOL!
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 11/17/09 1:03 PM
@Videodave2 yes, the horse is dead.  We have all heard the same thing from Mac users saying "I would never go back to a PC" but I respect your opinion just the same.  I think you mentioned using your wife's PC, but you never said what kind it was.  My advice to you (I've been on YouTube since 2005 so I know a few things) is if you have the chance to try out a Windows 7, do it.  I think if you like Mac, you will probally like Windows 7 because it looks more like a Mac and even has a taskbar like a Mac does (Mac has it at the bottom, Windows you can put it on any side of the computer and it's transparent) and the startup time has greatly increased.  But, thanks for giving your opinion.  That's what the Creators Corner forum is here for, right?  Thanks :)
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie rewboss 11/17/09 2:05 PM
Well, this has gone off topic. The original question posed was which editing program was better, not which operating system is better value for money. mightylions1, you started off by saying iMovie was more complicated, but ended up saying it's the same as Movie Maker but a Mac is more expensive, and now you're sounding like an advert for Windows 7, and justifying your argument that Windows 7 is great by saying you've been on YouTube since 2005.

Perhaps if we could get back to talking about video editors, this might be a fruitful discussion.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 11/17/09 3:10 PM
@rewboss thank you for you negitive comments!  May I ask if you have ever used Windows Movie Maker on the new Windows 7 operating system?
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 11/17/09 3:12 PM
And @JDoors, how much is Steve Jobs paying you to say that?  Seriously, have you even used Windows 7 yet?
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie FlammingRabbit 11/17/09 3:43 PM
Well, I started with wmm...so I'm going to have to say that it's better. Yes I have used iMovie.

But right now, I use Sony Vegas.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 11/17/09 3:48 PM
@FlammingRabbit wow a lot of people use Sony Vegas.  What do you like about it and how much does it cost?
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie FlammingRabbit 11/17/09 4:39 PM
Well, it's pretty much professional...so it does have a learning curve, but once you know where everything is and how to use it, you can do a ton of video editing. From Chroma Key (green screen) to simple things like titles and transitions. It can also do some pretty good audio editing too.

I think it goes for around $500 to $600. Vegas Pro 9 is the latest version.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 11/17/09 5:14 PM
@FlammingRabbit wow the green screen feature sounds pretty cool.  Oooh ouch $600 bucks is a bit steep though.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie YouTube Mia 11/17/09 5:54 PM
Just Tweeted this: http://twitter.com/youtube/status/5813938782 so hopefully we'll have some more voices chime into this discussion.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie Sequelmaker 11/17/09 5:59 PM
I am a PC user and I even take iMovie over WMM
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mugglesam 11/17/09 5:59 PM
I use iMovie :)
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie peteryan 11/17/09 6:01 PM
iMovie of course.


I made this using iMovie
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie fonzy91 11/17/09 6:05 PM
Please!!! iMovie is not even comparable to that sucky Windows movie thing... I use Mac, and iMovie for simple videos is really simple to use but you can do lot of things with it, how it should be! while windows movie maker is not intuitive at all, and pretty useless...
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie ritaylor 11/17/09 6:06 PM
iMovie vs. Movie Maker

I am an iMovie '09 and HD user. I must say that this application is very simple to use. Most is drag and drop and simple customization with Titles. The best part is that it comes free with every mac (or included in the price however u look at it). I have not personally used Windows Movie Maker a lot, but i iMovie is the BASIC editor and you can create professional movies by adding: clean titles, effects, cutaways, picture-in--picture effect AND GreenScreen...wow wow wow

How to Greenscreen (very cost effective): watch

*Peteryan...tutorial on the iPod Ad and how u did it please..lol
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie ritaylor 11/17/09 6:07 PM
How to Greenscreen (very cost effective): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP-svi0XQks
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie selif 11/17/09 6:09 PM
I've never seen iMovie or the Windows 7 version of WMM so I'll put it this way. I think of WMM in XP (and Vista for a brief while) as extremely basic "anybody can do it" video editors.  For what they can do they're fine, however I've become spoiled by programs like Sony Vegas 8 and the freeware Wax 2.0 because of things like multiple video and audio tracks, extremely easy to use chroma key and the dozens of other effects, transitions and edits that are possible.  Besides which, WMM (the XP version at least) cannot properly handle 720p video without squashing the aspect ratio down to 640x 480 and since my camera produces 720p, WMM loses for that reason also.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie maxdboy100 11/17/09 6:16 PM
iMovie is better it has a lot more features then windows movie maker.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie ChurchHatesTucker 11/17/09 6:18 PM
I haven't had a chance to look at WMM, but I would definitely recommend iMovie HD over '09. It's interface is as intuitive, but it's oriented much more like the pro systems (Final Cut, etc.) so transitioning up when you're ready is going to be a bit easier. Apple should have kept the interface and called it something like 'Final Cut Elements.'

BTW, if your Mac didn't come with HD, you can D/L it from Apple here: 
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie markimatang 11/17/09 6:22 PM
WOW! We finally caught an HD 6.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie Anthony Guidetti 11/17/09 6:25 PM
Windows Movie Maker has the ability to add plug ins. iMovie dropped that feature when iLife 08 came out. I prefer Windows Movie Maker for the customization.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie ipodnano4g8g 11/17/09 6:38 PM
iMovie
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie markimatang 11/17/09 6:47 PM

Tucker, sorry for the inane answer but if you’ve read the entire thread perhaps you’ll understand. To overcome the difficulties I use both HD 6 and 09, but am sure to use the AIC codec for the transfer. 

Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie imanto 11/17/09 6:54 PM
There is no "better".  People adapt to different software. Therefore everyone has there own choice. This is a bit pointless.  But i guess it will be good for you to see who likes what more.

Ill add by saying, ive used both, Movie Maker is easier, but has less features than iMovie.  iMovie is nice to use, nice clean interface as always, but it may be a little complicated to new users.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie crazypete14 11/17/09 7:31 PM
imovie defiantly  
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie しげっち 11/17/09 7:34 PM
I dont now Windows Movie Maker. But, I vote iMovie.
Because, iMovie has "STAR WARS" title effect. I LOVE IT!
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie ASDvids 11/17/09 7:45 PM
I have windows movie maker, but i am the type that bought a different editing system. Movie Maker is really good dont get me wrong, I just wish you could upload a different type file rather then just WMV and the editing abilities slightly sucks
so i would deffinatly have to go imovie
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie medicguy 11/17/09 8:32 PM
Mac is for the less tech Savvy??? Where did you get that? Some of the most creative and tech aware people use macs. Get real. Second, to be honest they are both equal in their usability. I find that it depends on what platform you are used to. If Windows is your thing then the in and outs of Movie maker will come easier and same for Macs. They both will have short comings and strength that once again depends on the users needs and familiarities. I dont think great disparities occur in apps until we start getting into more advanced settings. 

my 2 cents. MAC rules!!!!!
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie rewboss 11/18/09 3:43 AM
One of the annoying "features" I found on my XP version of WMM was importing DV footage. As is standard with any program that can import DV footage, it automatically detects where to splice the video into separate takes, based on the time code. WMM was consistently one frame off, which of course I didn't notice at first. Yuk.

Apparently, one of the annoying "features" of the Vista version is that it dropped support for webcams. Why? (What about Windows 7, by the way?)

Still, WMM can actually do more than most people realise. There are plugins available which you can use to add some nifty features, so the editor can grow with you. I think that's actually a good thing: the problem with having lots of special effects right out of the box is that you get what I call the "Ooh Shiny" syndrome, where people use effects not because they need to, but simply because they are "cool" -- which is the worst reason for using them, ever.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie RTT007 11/18/09 9:28 AM
Microsoft announced in August 2009 a new free movie editing software - Windows Live Movie Maker. This is pretty intuitive and easy to use free movie editing software (Windows 7/Vista/XP). This is the latest Microsoft free movie editing software to compare/compete with MAC iMovie. Available for download at:  http://download.live.com/    
http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!41357.entry  The new Windows Live Movie Maker – available today! 8/18/2009 
http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-attacks-mac-with-imovie-clone-2009-8   Microsoft Attacks Mac With iMovie Clone (MSFT, AAPL)
Windows Live Movie Maker is really very reliable and easy to use for preparing small home video-clips in minutes. There is direct output to Youtube, HD 1080p format is supported.
For more advanced use I would recommend Adobe Premiere Elements or Sony Vegas Studio (my videos at Youtube are prepared by Adobe Premiere Elements). 
Almost all input and output HD video formats are supported there.
BTW Adobe Premiere Elements v.7 comes pre-installed (with license) at Sony FW and AW series laptops (Europe) together with Adobe Photoshop Elements v.7.
Hope this helps.

Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie JDoors 11/18/09 10:01 AM
mightylions1: "And @JDoors, how much is Steve Jobs paying you to say that?  Seriously, have you even used Windows 7 yet?"
 
LOL! Did you mix my post up with someone else? So far I've only said WLMM is fine and I trashed the Apple ads in response to someone who mentioned them, so no, Jobs ain't payin' me. I also said I use Windows 7.
 
Whoever said it's likely whatever OS you like determines which free editor you like is probably right-as-rain. Whoever's saying a commercial product is better than a free one is stating the obvious (obviously).      :)
 
rewboss, yes, I played around with all those transitions and other effects, but, somehow, so far, I've managed to avoid overusing them.      :D
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 11/18/09 10:45 AM
@JDoors oops srry bro lol I didn't mean to say that.
 
Have u tried out WMM on Windows 7 yet?  I've looked at it and fooled around with it for a few min. but I haven't gotten a chance to do some real editing on it yet.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie JDoors 11/19/09 11:15 AM
I use Windows Live Movie Maker on Windows 7. I'm no budding filmmaker though, so my experience and opinion hold little weight. It works, it's easy to use, it does more than the previous version.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 11/19/09 11:33 AM
@JDoors I made a new video yesterday and I got my first chance to really try out WMM in Windows 7 and I loved it.  I made my first full HD movie :)
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie JDoors 11/19/09 1:08 PM
Oooo! But ... you forgot to include a link to it!      ;)
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 11/19/09 1:15 PM
Here it is:
 
 
Yeah, it's pretty dumb my first HD video was a video of a picture, but I was excited that YouTube followed me on Twitter so I made this video :)
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie JDoors 11/20/09 10:46 AM
Ha! You're gonna get a copyright claim from Twitter for that one!
 
Just kidding.
 
Looks crystal clear!
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 11/20/09 10:49 AM
haha thanks!  I hope to upload more HD videos using Windows Movie Maker soon.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 11/22/09 6:50 AM
Wow I'm a Level 4 now!  lol I just noticed....
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie Quiquo 11/23/09 5:32 AM
I've used both extensively and while i much prefer MAC OS X over Windows anyday, I must say that Movie Maker is easier to use than iMovie 7. Version 6 was much better and was actually very similar to Movie Maker. I have yet to try the current iMovie but I hope it's more intuitive than version 7, which literally made it a mission just to perform something as simple as deleting clips from the timeline and aligning audio and video tracks.

As for the whole MAC vs. Windows debate, whoever said that MAC caters to those who are less technically savvy makes me laugh. If you consider dealing with blue screens of death, constant crashes, routine reboots due to sluggish or buggy performance, and going through great hassles to keep your system relatively stable as "technically savvy" in nature, then you're sadly deluded. XD   
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie Videodave2 11/23/09 5:48 AM
>As for the whole MAC vs. Windows debate, whoever said that MAC caters to those who are less technically savvy makes me laugh. 

Which is why I mentioned that after programed a variety of computers in my work for about 20 years, upon retiring, chose Mac for my home computer.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie rewboss 11/23/09 6:06 AM
No, the BSOD has nothing to do with it -- although I feel constrained to point out that the reason Macs don't have blue screens of death is because they're grey.

Withering sarcasm aside, and ignoring issues of stability (which aren't as constant as non-Windows users claim), the MacOS is designed to be easy to use and to make as much as possible "transparent" to the user -- you tell the computer what to do and it does it without you having to worry about how. That's one end of the spectrum of which Linux is at the other: with Linux, you get to build your own system from scratch, if you so wish. Windows occupies an uneasy ground somewhere in the middle; on the surface it looks transparent, but it still lets you rummage around its innards and tweak things. That's not to say it's designed for tech-savvy people (actually, it isn't particularly), but if you are tech-savvy, you can, for example, get into the registry and fix stuff.

If anything, that can be a disadvantage. It doesn't give you the same amount of total control over absolutely everything, like Linux does, but it does give you enough control to fry the processor if you don't know what you're doing. When I say that the MacOS is designed for less tech-savvy, that's not a sneer; it means it's designed to be simple and intuitive and not require maintenance to keep it stable. I don't see it as a battle of the operating systems, so please evaluate my comments at face value.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie TheBloodycheater 11/29/09 11:02 AM
I use a sanyo xacti, so i cant import my videos onto WMM, My old camera, was able to import videos onto Wmm. imovie is better. But its harder, but once you use it enough, its becomes easy. Final cut is more for hard and longer videos. like mine
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie I Love YouTube 11/30/09 5:41 AM
windows movie maker is by far the best.
other video editors i have tried to use are difficult and are better for computer enthusiasts.
If your a beginner or novice, movie maker is the easiest with the simple drag and drop in the timeline and it has the best defaults without having to play around with settings. It also compresses the video 5 times smaller on average to a .wmv file which is compatible with youtube making it easy to upload while not hurting the quality of the file.
i highly recommend windows movie maker.


youtube user - harrymedan
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie Carboy7667 12/15/09 4:00 PM
I like none, Basically, I use Sony Vegas
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 12/17/09 5:39 PM
@Carbou7667 um.... my question was about WMM and iMovie..... not programs you have to pay for.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie Videodave2 12/18/09 7:20 AM
>windows movie maker is by far the best.

> It also compresses the video 5 times smaller on average to a .wmv file which is compatible with youtube making it easy to upload while not hurting the quality of the file.

  I'm not that familiar with Movie Maker, but, if I read what you said correctly, that is another reason to prefer iMovie. In iMovie, you are given a variety of export formats and you can choose the amount of compression. Are you really stuck with that 5 times compression that you mentioned? If that is true, then it may be fine if YouTube is the only place you want to see your videos, but, I prefer to save a backup copy with zero further compression.
As far as the compression, "not hurting the quality of the file", that maybe so as far as your eye can see, but the degradation will show up, if you ever want to make some future editing changes in that video.
   I certainly hope, that the MovieMaker compression is an option.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie FlammingRabbit 12/18/09 8:12 AM
@Videodave2, the compression is an option. Like most video editing tools there is a couple export options. If I remember correctly you can export all the up to 1080p in the latest WMM.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie jeremiahjw 12/19/09 11:37 AM
I haven't used iMovie, but from what I've heard, hands down it's better than WMM. I'm a big PC user, but Macs really have it when it comes to easy to use (and sometimes high quality) software for photos, websites, and video.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie chance wen 12/23/09 1:11 AM
It all depends on what kind of video you are making and what kind of quality you want to get out of it. WMM is more intended for beginners to film and film editing. It's simplicity makes it easy to use. iMovie is more complex and is more intended for more higher end editing. Even though WMM is simple (which is what people seem to be going for) it lacks in quality. Videos can't reach their full potential in creativity. It is also very (one track) in a way meaning you can't put much variety into it. I also heard that WMM is not a Non-destructive editing program and that it lacks many options. In iMovie, though the system is more complex and intricate, you have more creative control over your video. You can add variety to your film and export it in multiple formats. So if the director is aiming for a very simplistic film and just wants to do something for cheap, WMM is a good choice, but bare in mind what the final product will look like once it is finished. 
I'm a pretty heavy Mac user so I used to use iMovie, but I upgraded to Final Cut Pro for my films. I did use iMovie occasionally to help my friends who all own PC, but I found the program to be very "dull".
If you want to use iMovie you just need to be a bit more patient and get the hang of using it. It's not about being "tech savvy" or not. If you are really into film and want your film to go to the best of its abilities, it doesn't matter what computer you are using it on, it's all about how good you want your film to be. So, under my suggestion, you should go towards iMovie. But I'm a Mac user so that is what I will say. My best suggestion is you decide yourself, think about if you want your film to look good or not. Compare the 2 editing system, check out their abilities.
You can find a list of comparisons of wikipedia:
I hope this advice helped in any way. :)       

Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie nr bovee 5/7/10 8:54 PM
You guys amaze me. I was searching for an answer on whether there was a good alternative for my PC to edit videos with versus using my Mac, and instead in find a discussion where a majority of the answers have nothing to do with the topic of the thread Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie JDoors 5/8/10 7:42 AM
LOL! That's the nature of public user forums.      ; )
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie Videodave2 5/8/10 8:55 AM
>LOL! That's the nature of public user forums.      ; )

Very true. On the other hand, and contrary to nr boyee's complaint, I thought most of the posts were pretty much on the thread topic. We even had an input (almost unheard of) from a YouTube employee. For me the answer is, although I have checked out Movie maker on my wife's PC, since I have a Mac , I would never really consider using it. But, if I was only given the choice between Movie Maker and iMovie 8 or 9 rather than version 6, I might consider the PC.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie JDoors 5/8/10 9:39 AM
Windows Live Movie Maker (the latest version) adds a ton of useful (and long-needed) features.
 
I only have limited experience with Apple computers, and it did not go well (more my inability to adjust than anything else).      ; )
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie markimatang 5/8/10 10:09 AM

@Videodave - Ah ha, a fellow HD6er! I have a nagging question that perhaps you can answer, but first my workflow. I have a camera that shoots 1080i. I import to 09 using the full setting and am careful not to do anything that might trigger auto deinterlace. I select the clips that I want and export each as a QuickTime movie using AIC set to preserve interlacing, and then drag them into a 1080i HD6 iMovie project to complete the editing. The edited movie is exported as a QuickTime movie using AIC set to preserve interlace. I then use the JES deinterlacer to deinterlace and export as H.264 if finished or AIC set for progressive if I want to use the magic 09 tricks.

At some point I will get a camera that shoots 1080p. Will I be able to use HD 6 to edit the footage?

Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie Videodave2 5/8/10 10:32 AM
That is one that I can't answer. When you start a project file 1080i is an option and 1080p is not. I would suspect that there would not be a problem importing the clips into a project, but, would assume that the would be converted in the process and so you would not be editing 1080p files.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie mightylions1 5/8/10 1:13 PM
Actually, I prefer the old Windows Movie Maker 2.6 over Windows Live Movie Maker.  I liked the timeline in the old one better.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie BEANIESnTHEsummer33 7/26/10 4:11 PM
Ok here's my problem. I have a windows 7 laptop and it doesn't come with windows movie maker. Which ticks me off and would like to know if I could get it any way cuz I need it. Message me if u can help pls:) thx!


Ps I prefer mac! Even tho I don't have one yet:/
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie TechTalkGuy 7/26/10 7:30 PM
Several years ago, I started YouTube with Windows Movie Maker.

Fast forward to today -- I am a proud Mac user.

I use iMove to import and "Reject" clips I do not need, then export for real editing in Final Cut.

If you want to have fun producing outstanding videos you can be proud of, you can't go wrong with the Mac.
Re: Windows Movie Maker vs. iMovie JDoors 7/27/10 9:04 AM
Beanie, the entire Windows Live Essentials suite is available free from Microsoft.
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