|My youtube views count has been frozen for two months now at 304. Why?||seanorgard||8/26/10 2:17 PM|
I've read the explanation on why a view count could be frozen and it is vague and offers no means of lifting the "freeze". I can't believe my 304 views were frozen at that point because some piece of software thought I was trying to "play" the system. No one but relatives and friends ( and myself ) have viewed the video and if some hacker was trying to "play" the system for his/her own amusement why is there not some means of redressing that problem???? I've spent probably hours looking for some way to contact youtuber customer service. I even called the number and wound my way around the answering system to discover this: there is no live customer service. It's more than just a parody of service; it's a mockery and a perversion.
|Re: My youtube views count has been frozen for two months now at 304. Why?||JDoors||8/26/10 7:27 PM|
The policy is to prevent abuse, it's not an accusation that you may be guilty of it.
If your friends and family viewed in through your account those views probably are no longer included.
If they no longer include, for example, 100 of those 304 views, you must have more than 100 of the types of views they now accept as valid before the counter can move again.
If there are only a few now-invalid views the counter could move again quickly, or if there are few viewers it may not, if there are many now-invalid views it could take quite some time before you seen any movement, or if there are many viewers it may move soon.
It depends on what type of views you were getting and how many accepted views you're getting now.
|Re: My youtube views count has been frozen for two months now at 304. Why?||fysioenzo||8/28/10 8:12 AM|
Strange, a couple of days ago my view counter stopped counting at 304 views also......
|Re: My youtube views count has been frozen for two months now at 304. Why?||JDoors||8/28/10 9:09 AM|
Not strange, it's policy that everyone is subject to:
|Re: My youtube views count has been frozen for two months now at 304. Why?||chancellorpink||8/28/10 9:35 AM|
it's an idiotic policy and morally indefensible. luckily it's easy to get around...
start clicking on your video(s) from LINKS...i.e., search your video and click on it that way, or click on it as a "related video" from other videos. do this when not signed it.
those views will "count" as views, get you back up to the balony 300 "actual view" count threshold that Big Brother has estbalished for no good or valid reason, and then your video will count each view again. ;)
|Re: My youtube views count has been frozen for two months now at 304. Why?||JDoors||8/28/10 9:53 AM|
There's always a way to hack a system, and there's always ever-more restrictive policies put in place as a result. Thanks for contributing to such ever-more restrictive policies. : \
|Re: My youtube views count has been frozen for two months now at 304. Why?||chancellorpink||8/28/10 10:26 AM|
don't let the cronies scare you, seanorgard!
some videos get tens of thousands of views on here, many by the same obsessed people, over and over again. the views climb in a matter of days on these videos. do you think YouTube takes the time to develop a "policy" to make sure that, say, 100 or so of those tens of thousands of views are "real" or some such hogwash? of course not!!
then why do they do it for the little guy with only a handful of views?
draw your own conclusions. but my guess is that money is involved somewhere. it usually is.
well, this is a place a dad can put up a video of him playing with his children in the park on the 4th of July. and if dad or the kids want their video to have a respectable view count, OR if they just love watching it so much that they view it again and again...absolutely, the counts should climb, like anyone else's count, even more so!!! because it's a real person putting something REAL and of value onto the Net and into the world.
so the heck with the cronies like JDoors who say "it is a rule", as if there has never been a bad rule in all of the world. do you trust him? i mean, dude's a "level16" on a forum site designed to help people with problems, telling them to shut up and take it! you draw your own conclusions, but i say, spare us all your input from now on, ok JDoors. we know which team you're playing for, and it sure isn't ours.
and, seanogard, if you view your videos after searching them first, only a very sad excuse for a human being would regard this behavior as "hacking". hacking into your own video?? hahahahaha get your counts respectable! watch your videos as much as you want and make it count!
their system is built on money? well, without people like us, they wouldn't have a dime.
|Re: My youtube views count has been frozen for two months now at 304. Why?||JDoors||8/28/10 12:05 PM|
I did not say, "shut up and take it," at least, not in this thread. LOL!
And for someone who claims to know how things work, you don't seem to know simple public forum etiquette: You don't tell others what, when or where they can post. :P
|Re: My youtube views count has been frozen for two months now at 304. Why?||chancellorpink||8/28/10 1:59 PM|
forum etiquette is for level16 types. i'm just a regular guy giving a tip to someone who asked a question.
|Re: My youtube views count has been frozen for two months now at 304. Why?||JDoors||8/29/10 7:09 AM|
|Re: My youtube views count has been frozen for two months now at 304. Why?||seanorgard||8/29/10 4:32 PM|
OK, I understand that this is a "free" service ( "free" is in quotes because nothing is "free." Somewhere, somehow, someone is paying ). AND what you see is what you get. AND I should have no complaints because afterall I'm using this "free" service. AND, youtube can decide on policy and the user has little or no input. AND, basically, who cares about the view counts except as an indicator that tells you whether your video is good or bad ... or, at least, popular or unpopular. I do get that. I'm delighted that there is a place like youtube where anyone can upload a video and express him/her self.
However, youtube has provided the "view count" measurement and has suggested ways to increase that count and has gone to elaborate lengths to analysis who, what, when, and where your view counts were coming from. The entire youtube statistical analysis depends on view counts. The entire systematic youtube experience impels you to think that view counts are important. It's perfectly obvious that youtube thinks the view count is important. I suspect for them it is extremely important -- they're selling ads. So, I find it frustrating, not that they froze the view count, but that there is minimal explanation as to why that happened and no explanation as to what criteria were used to freeze the count and absolutely no "official" way to redress the freeze.
I thank you both of you for your responses.
I thank chancollorpink for his suggestions on how to "unfreeze" the count and his general encouragement; it was appreciated.
I thank jDoors for an explanation of the youtube "freeze" policies -- it's clearer and more intelligent and more concise than anything I've read at youtube.
Please, don't fight, guys, it's not worth the effort.
|Re: My youtube views count has been frozen for two months now at 304. Why?||JDoors||8/29/10 5:44 PM|
It's not fighting, it's playful banter. I think.
BTW, your invitation to partner status and monetization of individual videos depends on view counts too. But! But, they take that anti-abuse filter into consideration. A ton of stuff would be better and easier if they didn't have to put policies in place to limit the morons who try to take advantage of every little twisted thought that pops into their tiny little minds. (Yeah, it gets me mad, so?)
For example, if you have fifteen youtube friends you'd like to share a video with, what could be wrong with that, right? Nooooo ... spammers .... they send stuff to many, many accounts, so YOU are limited to what YOU can send out too. The morons are taking over the Earth and there's nothin' we can do to stop it.
|Re: My youtube views count has been frozen for two months now at 304. Why?||chancellorpink||8/29/10 6:33 PM|
no fighting...just trying to leave enough responses so that my Level keeps climbing. i am bucking for JDoors job.
|Re: My youtube views count has been frozen for two months now at 304. Why?||chancellorpink||8/31/10 9:15 AM|
PS Once once you catch the counts up, leave the video alone, i..e., don't start falsifying views again to bolster the impression that your video is being viewed by people more than it is. This is exactly why YouTube put this freeze system into place...
Because some jerks won't be satisfied with just a few hundred views to give their video very modest respectability in the "view count" world of "video quality assessment", and they'll sit there like a loonie with OCD, clicking, clicking, clicking on their own video until they get it into the tens of thousands (!) of views, using up valuable YouTube bandwidth on a video that few (if any) people actually give two craps about!
So just get your video views "caught up", so your counter can start working again, be content with the count of 300 or so, and let reality take over from there. If people care, they'll watch it and the views will climb. Or you can promote it too, of course, if you like. Otherwise, just leave it alone.
|Re: My youtube views count has been frozen for two months now at 304. Why?||JDoors||8/31/10 10:49 AM|
What I don't know, and what they don't say, is if AFTER you pass the filter that kicks in at ~300, you're still subject to being filtered. Some users state their counters stopped at much higher numbers. I wonder if they are being "re-assessed" for invalid views? And when does that kick in? Just curious.
|Re: My youtube views count has been frozen for two months now at 304. Why?||chancellorpink||8/31/10 11:37 AM|
yes, i believe there's still a delay after that filter kicks in. views from today might take a few hours or a whole day to register on the counter, for example, but they do appear to register inside of 24 hours. now, is the counter ever "released" from this delay? i am guessing yes. i am guessing they have a threashold number when the system says, effectively, "no one could fake this" or "this is actually popular and not SPAM-driven" and the delay is released.
having said that, i do wonder about the videos that get thousands of views in just a matter of days right after being uploaded. that's why i think the whole system is patently unfair, even though i appreciate the reason for it.
|Re: My youtube views count has been frozen for two months now at 304. Why?||JDoors||8/31/10 11:48 AM|
... might be the number of subs, if they have a lot, it shows up immediately in many users accounts and get views right away.
|Re: My youtube views count has been frozen for two months now at 304. Why?||Naean||8/31/10 12:51 PM|
Well, YouTube's policy is that, when videos are getting a lot of views per day, the view counters are limited to being updated hourly rather than instantly. (Helps prevent people from racking up lots of views quickly by simply reloading video pages 50 times over.)