|How do I get what appears to be a 'fake' Copyright School YouTube page off of my account?||orcastra54||4/14/11 6:30 PM|
I recently had several of my videos removed due to false copyright claims by an individual that I have a permanent restraining order against. I filed the appropriate Copyright Counter Notifications for all of those videos, and they were eventually restored to my site by YouTube. This person has created several different YouTube channels to continue his harassment,and I keep blocking him. Although I've reported these violations to the local police... YouTube doesn't seem to have any recourse to dealing with this kind of abuse and harassment. He hasn't faced any kind of reprimand or strikes from YouTube for these false claims and he has been free to continue to harass me and file more false claims on YouTube.. Even after his last ones were proven false. It appears to me that YouTube doesn't really take false claims seriously.
So he has just been free to file more false copyright infringement claims to more of my videos. 2 more were removed and I have filed Copyright Counter Notifications on those as well. And I know I'll win those too. The problem is, now.. when I log onto my channel.. a fake 'Copyright School' shows up.. I KNOW it's fake because I have been to the 'real' 'Copyright School' page on YouTube and taken the course. And this page doesn't even look anything like the real page.
EVERY SINGLE link possible on that 'fake' page just reloads the page. The page has what looks like a YouTube video, and a set of 4 questions on the side. IT says to watch the video and then answer the questions. Well, the video doesn't play because it isn't a video. When you click it... it just spins like it's loading..and after a while just reloads the page. If you try to answer the questions.. it just reloads the page again. The Privacy Settings, Language, Copyright, Settings etc etc don't go to any of the links. They just reload the page. The 'Search' bar just reloads the page. Even the YouTube icon in the upper left corner (which should take you to YouTube's home page) just reloads the page. In a nutshell ANYTHING on that page that you could possibly click on...just reloads the same page.
I have contacted YouTubes' Support Page, Help Center, Hacker Assistance, Service Center etc etc. All tono avail. Some ask for a detailed description of the problem, which I have supplied. But the universal response I get is "You need to reset your password through Google" I have done this TWICE now, and it doesn't work. When I log onto my account, I get the same 'fake' page. Even my account pull down menu doesn't work. Everything there from My Channel, Comments, My Favorites, My Videos etc etc EVERY one of them just reloads the 'fake page.
Has anyone else had this problem? And if so.. how did you get it resolved? I have run out of YouTube contacts.. and they don't have any kind of 'real' Customer Service. No phone numbers, no 'people' you can talk to, no legal dept to contact. Just some useless links that do nothing more than generate generic 'Reset Your Password" messages.
I am planning on closing this YouTube account and moving my work to a private site (I have started moving some of my videos there already) and will remove the rest after I get this latest false claim settled. However I can't even close my account. It says I have to log on to YouTube to close my account.. and of course.. when I do that... I'm stuck with the fake non-navigable page.
If anyone else has had this problem or has some answers it would be greatly appreciated. YouTube had a great idea at one time .. but it seems it's become a playground where anyone who wants to, can just freely go about having material removed just on a whim... and won't face any kind of punsishment or retribution from YouTube. At least that's been my experience.
I just want to know how to get rid of that fake page and access my account. Anyone have any solutions or similar experiences?
|Re: How do I get what appears to be a 'fake' Copyright School YouTube page off of my account?||Dudemecool||4/14/11 6:36 PM|
The page is not fake , its real youtube copyright school page ! it seems like a youtube bug !!
I am having the same trouble for the past 4 hours ,cant continue even after answering the questions and i just posted a topic on the issue earlier ...
I also find three similar questions before posting my question and apparently no real solution has been come up with.
hopefully they will fix it soon and i can access my account and you too!!
as for the person harrasing u - did u try to block him first using youtube "blxok user" feature??
|Re: How do I get what appears to be a 'fake' Copyright School YouTube page off of my account?||orcastra54||4/16/11 9:20 AM|
Thanks for the response. After numerous repeated emails to YouTube.. that page just suddenly vanished.
Yes.. I have blocked all of his known YouTube accounts.. but he just creates new accounts to continue.
Even tho the previous videos of mine he had removed were restored, and his claims of infringement were proven false. ( They even gave him 20 business days to respond to my counter notifications) He was never banned from YouTube like their TOS says you will.
YouTube did remove the strikes against me and my account was put back in good standing,
(As I know they will again after this latest harassment and false infringement claims). But he'll just create another account and start it over. I'm pursuing a different course of action this time.. and perhaps that will end this for good.
Thanks again for your response. Good to know I wasn't alone in this matter.
|Re: How do I get what appears to be a 'fake' Copyright School YouTube page off of my account?||orcastra54||4/16/11 7:03 PM|
Thanks Stefanie. I did take the quiz (the long version) that I found on YouTube when I was logged out.
And after a few days it disappeared from my channel.
I have been copyrighting my material for over 30 years, (from the days when sheet music was required to the digital age) and I have always tried to keep up on changes in copyright law. However it is very deep and difficult to stay on top of every change.
I realize that YouTube is not a legal representative, and that is why I have copyright attorneys as well.
As for the continued harassment, and the failure to ban the individual (and I know who he is) who is responsible and who filed these false claims..I am still at a loss. But will pursue the legal avenues available to me.
Thanks again Stefanie =)
|Re: How do I get what appears to be a 'fake' Copyright School YouTube page off of my account?||orcastra54||4/17/11 5:55 AM|
Thanks Stefanie. You read my mind! =)
|Re: How do I get what appears to be a 'fake' Copyright School YouTube page off of my account?||rewboss||4/17/11 6:03 AM|
It's also actually not possible to permanently ban somebody, at least not effectively. Even IP bans don't work -- it would take me about thirty seconds to circumvent an IP ban, just by rebooting my router.
However, knowingly filing malicious or fraudulant copyright infringement complaints may constitute perjury, so you may be able to take this individual to court -- again, that's something you'd need to discuss with your lawyer.
|Re: How do I get what appears to be a 'fake' Copyright School YouTube page off of my account?||orcastra54||4/17/11 7:00 AM|
Thanks rewboss. =) I know that there is always a way to circumvent the system.. and I'm sure he's using every means available to do so.... however his original channels still remain up. Perhaps YouTube can't prove a link of the 'complaints' to the channels... and that is why they remain up. And I agree.. this is most likely perjury (multiple counts).. as per the webform you're required to fill out under 'penalty of perjury', to file the complaints.
I am pursuing legal avenues.
|Re: How do I get what appears to be a 'fake' Copyright School YouTube page off of my account?||orcastra54||4/17/11 11:00 AM|
WOW!!! Thanks Stephanie!! =) I have forwarded this to my attorneys.
|Re: How do I get what appears to be a 'fake' Copyright School YouTube page off of my account?||orcastra54||4/17/11 12:39 PM|
After watching some of these back and forth vids between Venom and Thunderfoot... one thing caught my attention. Thunderfoot said he was able to get the contact info for Venom thru the filing of his Copyright Counter Notification. I was unable to do so.. other than the name. Which was a combination of my last name and his last name, made to look like a company. And there is no company.
Even after he failed to respond to my Counter claims, and my videos were restored.... I still was unable to get any contact info to pursue legal action. Even though I know exactly WHO it is.. I was unable to get any contact info from YouTube.
In these latest false DMCA complaints... I believe he's listed a real company's name( based in Malaysia) as the complainant. From the research I've been able to find.. they are basically a website hosting and web marketing firm. (And I can't find anything about them being a rights management company etc) From what I've read about them through their service agreements and policies... their customers are responsible for obeying all copyright laws, Along with other requirements such as the posting of pornography, hate etc. I find it strange that this web hosting company would take issue with my copyrighted material without doing some research first.
If in fact, he has used this company's name without their permission to file these false DMCA claims (and that is who my attorneys are going after on this latest charge) .. I'm curious as to what additional laws he may have broken. Either way..YouTube only supplied me with the name of the complainant on all of these. no other info... And after I filed all of the counter-claims, I just received emails that said they had been received and forwarded to the complainant. No additional info.
Not worried though... as I'm sure my attorneys will get all of that info anyways.
|Re: How do I get what appears to be a 'fake' Copyright School YouTube page off of my account?||whatevrrecords||5/24/11 6:08 PM|
Gosh . I havent heard you this mad since Kim had to call Wilcox and I to save her from you when you were blacked out in a drunken rage and lost your car keys. Oh thats right, she died shortly after. Sorry about that.
There are two sides to every story, and in every musical partnership I have known, one is the worker, the motivator. That was me. Often he was even working for hire with me on projects, and everything we wrote we copyrighted together. They were my projects, my keyboards, my studios, and I paid him to boot for over 10 years. The songs were thrashed out, chord by chord, chorus by chorus, over and over. Then we recorded them and I have all the original tapes too. He knows this, and hides behind a restraining order based on a lie and an attorney. But I know him, after 17 years. He lives in his bitter hell, and now hes striking at me like the snake he is.He filed a restraining order, recopyrighted everything and thinks its ok. Thats the kind of guy he is. Unfortunately, You Tube supports him in his continuing copyright violation.
|Re: How do I get what appears to be a 'fake' Copyright School YouTube page off of my account?||rewboss||5/24/11 11:44 PM|
YouTube complies with court orders and the law. If this individual has filed a restraining order against you, this has nothing to do with YouTube.
This issue is now out of our hands, and out of YouTube's hands, and is a matter for the courts. Please speak to your attorney.
|Re: How do I get what appears to be a 'fake' Copyright School YouTube page off of my account?||orcastra54||5/25/11 10:04 AM|
'whateverrecords' 'agingrockstarwannabe' and 'washvideoservices' are all the same person. And the same person I have the permanent restraining order against, that was issued in 1999. This is the same person I have filed complaints about with YouTube for contacting me, harassing me, posting vulgar statements. making false statements about me, as well as filing false DMCA claims against me on YouTube.
I have supplied him with my attorney's contact info (numerous times) if he has issues with my copyrights.. but he feels he needs to harass and contact me personally instead... or.. to write/post disparaging, vulgar and false statements about me to others. As is demonstrated in his above post, under his channel name 'whatevrrecords'
He's had 12 years to file any lawsuits against me (the judge told him in 1999 that any copyright disputes shall be THROUGH ATTORNEYS ONLY, and it is stated in the court order as well)... yet, he has not.
He recently had the chance to do so again after I filed the Copyright Counter Notifications to his false DMCA claims against me. ( One of which he used another company's name, 'Incomattic Sdn Bhd'. That company seems to know nothing about any DMCA claims filed against me or my music under their name) But again, he failed to do so. Even after I once again supplied him with my attorneys contact info.
It's obvious that this is just his continuing campaign of harassment of me... and continued violation of the permanent court order issued against him in 1999.
He's using YouTube to circumvent the court order to contact me and further harass me. I have already requested that YouTube supply me with the proper contact info based on his false DMCA claims, so that I may commence legal proceedings against him.
|Re: How do I get what appears to be a 'fake' Copyright School YouTube page off of my account?||rewboss||5/25/11 10:26 AM|
Why bother even responding? Don't worry about your image: let this thread die and within a week or two nobody will remember anything about it.
|Re: How do I get what appears to be a 'fake' Copyright School YouTube page off of my account?||orcastra54||5/25/11 11:11 AM|
True. Thx =)
|Re: How do I get what appears to be a 'fake' Copyright School YouTube page off of my account?||whatevrrecords||5/25/11 11:52 AM|
Waaa waaaa waaaaa.
The court order was filed based on a lie. I was just trying to get my personal property
back from my "friend & partner" of 17 years. A liar then, and a bigger liar now.
|Re: How do I get what appears to be a 'fake' Copyright School YouTube page off of my account?||anmoose||5/25/11 2:13 PM|
@whatevrrecords, it doesn't matter. It's irrelevant here, and nobody cares. It's a court order, and whether it was or was not based on a lie is up to a judge to decide. Take it to court and prove it.
|Re: How do I get what appears to be a 'fake' Copyright School YouTube page off of my account?||whatevrrecords||5/26/11 3:55 PM|
By the way...did you ever pay any income tax on all those works for hire? How about any of the money from the great DVD,
"Dreams, Chance, and Reality?" That was a $400,000 job. Does the IRS know about that?