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Why is integration forced, and not an option?

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Why is integration forced, and not an option? FlyingWombat 11/13/13 10:21 AM
I understand why Google might want to offer integration, but why must it be forced? For example, why is it so out of the question to throw in an option that allows the user to organize the comments in either the current Google Plus-ified manner, or the previous latest-and-best-first manner? I don't want to see a comment just because it's from a "popular personality" or what Google+ might call a "friend". I want to see what the community watching it, random Joes and Josephines, have to say about it.
Not to mention, no, I most certainly do NOT want to share information like my full name with all of youtube.
Re: Why is integration forced, and not an option? Shiftless Drifter 11/13/13 9:18 PM
If the integration isn't forced then only a small percentage of people will opt-in. We know this because G+ never really achieved mainstream popularity, so if given the choice it's unlikely users will opt in voluntarily. Google's only play at knocking Facebook off its throne is by force, using YouTube as its platform since YouTube _does_ have the mainstream popularity needed to potentially make that happen.

Your gripe about the comments is shared by many, but again, I think it's part of Google's strategy to dominate the social networking scene. We're going to be stuck with this one way or another unless someone can dethrone YouTube. And that's unlikely... at least for now.

Re: Why is integration forced, and not an option? Craig... 11/13/13 11:19 PM
I've had a Google+ account for a while now but don't use it much. Besides requiring users to open a G+ account I don't see that big of a change in the way comments are being made.
Re: Why is integration forced, and not an option? sirtokesalot 11/14/13 6:00 AM
google plus will no way ever dethrone facebook it should stop trying.
Re: Why is integration forced, and not an option? Stephen Perry 11/14/13 9:13 AM
That's pretty lofty to say considering people also thought that MySpace would never be dethroned.
Re: Why is integration forced, and not an option? Shiftless Drifter 11/14/13 5:50 PM
On Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:00:48 AM UTC-5, sirtokesalot wrote:
> google plus will no way ever dethrone facebook it should stop trying.

That's not how business works. If you can cut into the pie and dig out a nice slice, it's worth doing. The more G+ users, the more money they make. Period.

Re: Why is integration forced, and not an option? ewest305 11/14/13 5:56 PM
I hope it fails and google ends up admitting it was a flawed discourse. I have nothing but contempt for these idiots at Google making this sophomoric attempt to top Facebook.  
Re: Why is integration forced, and not an option? Ashley O 11/14/13 8:44 PM
Google plus will allow users a more interactive social experience. You will get used to it and love it!
Re: Why is integration forced, and not an option? Craig... 11/14/13 9:44 PM
Only time will tell to see if users pick it up. I really doubt it. Facebook has been losing there younger users to Tweeter and many aren't giving G+ a thought. I ask a few friends of mind have you ever used Google+? There answer was "Whats that?".  There watching YT video's from external sources and there not actually going to the YouTube site nearly as much anymore. That number is growing everyday from the younger users I talk to. There on mobile and there's starting to be to many video that won't play on mobile. There going somewhere else to hear there music.
Re: Why is integration forced, and not an option? Morncreek 11/14/13 10:40 PM
No thanks. I liked what I had. It was all I needed. It was all I wanted - well, actually even then it was more than I wanted... I miss the old, old YouTube... like so. The days when we could give real rating feedback using the 5-star system. Or when there were category rankings, a vestige of which can still be seen in this old video's summary.

I don't use social media, I have no desire for the mess it creates.

You and Google telling me that I'll like it is really off-putting when I already know what I like. Google should never have gone to Steve Jobs, asking for advice. *shakes head*
Re: Why is integration forced, and not an option? Shiftless Drifter 11/15/13 6:44 AM
On Friday, November 15, 2013 12:44:48 AM UTC-5, GgleSD wrote:
> Only time will tell to see if users pick it up. I really doubt it. Facebook has been losing there younger users to Tweeter and many aren't giving G+ a thought. I ask a few friends of mind have you ever used Google+? There answer was "Whats that?".  There watching YT video's from external sources and there not actually going to the YouTube site nearly as much anymore. That number is growing everyday from the younger users I talk to. There on mobile and there's starting to be to many video that won't play on mobile. There going somewhere else to hear there music.

It will pick up in the sense that whenever you comment on a video it will get posted to your G+ page (unless you uncheck the box when commenting). So by default you will be contributing something to the G+ network. If you add a video to your favorites or click the thumbs up/thumbs down button, it will also tie into your social media profile under G+. This information will be collected and sold to marketers so they can better advertise to us.

As a by-product of these new changes I think you'll see an increase in G+ activity anyway. Undoubtedly, some people will see G+ for the first time -- those who ignored it after its initial launch or those who only gave it a passing glance -- and might start using it in addition, or as an alternative, to Facebook. I can't see these numbers being exceptionally high, but Google's jumping in at the right time, just as Facebook announces teenagers are dropping off their site (as you mentioned). With G+ you can group people into circles and leave your family members out of certain things -- a feature that Facebook lacks as far as I know. This might be appealing to users who didn't give G+ a real chance in the past.

Either way, I think Google will be cutting into the 'social networking pie' with these changes and get what they want out of it. Whether this will take down Facebook is perhaps questionable, but it's a clever way to do it.
Re: Why is integration forced, and not an option? psycobleach46 12/12/13 6:40 PM
Googles latest @#$& up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGxaSGMfYj4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQfHdasuWtI


Google/youtube needs to go back and read the copyright laws.
Google/youtube needs to listen to the youtubers.
Google needs to quit worrying about how much money they can put in there pocket and do everyone.Youtube is gonna crash like Myspace.

Re: Why is integration forced, and not an option? sirtokesalot 12/13/13 3:55 AM
yea ive came across those vids that tell me i cant watch them because im on a mobile device. usualy i just tell my phone to run in desktop mode and the video loads.