First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong!

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First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! bluequoll 6/20/13 3:34 PM
The Google search homepage today (21st June) is showing a Doodle for the "First Day of Winter 2013".

Google, you've missed the boat by nearly three weeks. The official first day of winter in Australia is 1st June, not the solstice as in many other countries.
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! paradisi 6/20/13 4:31 PM
only the septic could miss winter by 3 weeks.  sickening rally - 95% of the world use 1/6/13 as the start of winter/summer  5% of htw worlds population - the USA cant quite get it right
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Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Jacos Meme 6/20/13 6:09 PM
Yes. I noticed the same thing and ended up here. How disappoint.
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Maureens Artz 6/20/13 6:19 PM
I agree, Google got it wrong as being the 1st day of winter downunder.
Our first day of winter is the 1st June.

However, Google did get one thing right, it is the day of the Winter Solstice which is the shortest day in the southern hemisphere.  After this day, the days begin to lengthen toward our spring.

Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Hakea333 6/20/13 7:03 PM
21st June is the Solstice - which is either the longest or shortest day of the year, depending on whether you're in the northern or southern hemisphere.

Whether or not it's also designated as the start of Winter or Summer is a matter of choice, depending on your country, culture or local climate.   Either way, it doesn't mean that the true seasons in your area will neatly line up with  a date on a calendar or even with the alignment of the planet.

For instance, various Australian aboriginals apparently use a system that gives names to a varying number of seasons instead of just four. They are not marked by dates chosen in advance on a calendar, but by observing what is actually happening in the natural world in any given year. Sounds like a better system to me. :-)

Here's a quick look at some of the seasons used in different climates/areas of Australia and how they roughly relate to the concept of Summer, Winter etc. More information can also be found at that site.

www.bom.gov.au/iwk/climate_culture/Indig_seasons.shtml

 

Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Steve Lazylizard 6/20/13 7:49 PM
Ohh good, My Car Payment s are behind, get a chance to catch up now, luckily they aren't my paymaster
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Pete Buttress 6/20/13 7:58 PM
The official first day of winter in Australia is 1st June, Google you can be so far out in some things.  Get with the programme!!
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! McTiZM 6/20/13 9:33 PM
YOU GUYS HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO HEY....
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! DigitalMee 6/20/13 9:56 PM
Did you GOOGLED that 95% of the world use 1/6/13 as the start of winter/summer?
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Woody One 6/20/13 10:27 PM
The yanks are too busy saving the world to be bothered with anything that requires that their heads are extracted from their own rear ends.
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Christopher Ellis 6/20/13 11:22 PM
yep:it is actually called Midwinter's Day; Google hired a gang of morons to stuff up earth day,now they have another lotto stuff up the Solstice: talk about parochial. The official dates of Scotland & China are nearer the mark:early February,May,August & November,for the change of the seasons. But,shh, that is Astronomy,& they may get is confused with Astrology, or even with Astrophysics.
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Mo' Fugga 6/20/13 11:23 PM
Although here in Australia, we have our 1st day of winter on 1 June, this is only because some one decided that it would be easier to have the seasons work with cutting the year in to equal quarters. 1 Dec - 28 feb, 1 March -31 May, 1 june - 31 Aug, 1 sept - 30 nov

However, Nature see's the season Change based on the solar system's movements, and the climates temperature shift. If your in Australia's tropic's you don't notice but here in Melbourne, we certainly noticed yesterday.

for example, December 1 is Australia's 1st day of summer, even though it's not cold, it's not exactly beach weather until you get closer to January so the 21 of December would best suit the start of summer but due to way we do things on our Calendar, it isn't. sorry to say, but this time, the American's got it right, and not just the Americans, the Canadians, Europeans, Asians, Africans, south American's etc etc

Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Ultrathrang 6/20/13 11:33 PM
Yep, the Yanks can't get anything straight - look at Father's Day - it's September not June !! (Ha Ha Ha)
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Elisabeth Foley-Teuben 6/20/13 11:38 PM
Dear Blue Quoll,
The Google Doodle is for the First Day of Winter (in the Southern Hemisphere)linking with the winter solstice. The Doodle was not made specifically for Australia. Are we sooo important? Think not!!! There are many countries in the southern hemisphere that mark the start of winter around today's date. It looks like we are a minority of 1. All celebrations acknowledged to nations and people celebrating the start of winter today. <3
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Mo' Fugga 6/20/13 11:41 PM
that's cos June is almost their summer, who want's to have Fathers day in the winter? and 1st monday in September over in Canada and the USA is Labor Day. People say American's are Ignorant... I'm starting to feel embarrassed to be Australian lol
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Mo' Fugga 6/20/13 11:50 PM
Just because it showed up on your google, doesn't' mean it was intended for only Australia, there are lots of other countries in the southern hemisphere. think before you speak
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Callum Johnson 6/20/13 11:51 PM
Go home Google your drunk
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! shinjiman 6/20/13 11:51 PM
Isn't called the "Winter Solstice 2013"?? It's should be more applicable. :)
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Ben Freshney 6/20/13 11:52 PM
You'd think they'd actually do the research first. Fair enough for any country that does start winter on the day of the solstice but they could at least have put  this one up on the 1st of June here instead.

Also, for those that are saying it was designed for the southern hemisphere in general and not just Australia: Each country has their own Google homepage so it should be customised to each country.

Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Paulaelli7479 6/20/13 11:53 PM
While they have the "First day of winter" part wrong. it is indeed the Solstice (also known as Yule in the Hemisphere).  so its more of a Grammatical Error...
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Erica Howarth 6/21/13 12:06 AM
lols I didn't even realise.
Google, did u have a nap? I did.

that 3 week nap sure was good. didn't you notice it get a little bit cold towards the beginning???

I did... that must have been winter starting.
(I don't blame us though, naps are naps even if they do make us 3 weeks late...)

Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! bluequoll 6/21/13 12:50 AM
Google Doodles are often shown on, or omitted from, local Google search pages.

This Google Doodle was specifically shown today, 21st June in Australia, on Google's local Australian search page google.com.au, before it was shown in other countries where the 21st June is officially the first day of winter.

I have no argument with Google showing a common Doodle for the "First Day of Winter" but, knowing they have the ability to target individual local domains at different times, the Doodle could just as easily have been shown on google.com.au on the correct date for Australia (1st June) instead of the wrong date.
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! random78 6/21/13 2:40 AM
Cool website, thanks Hakea
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Tracy Bartram 6/21/13 3:56 AM
Oh puh-leeez!

The winter solstice is the first day of winter in Australia.

Please do your homework.  Just because the media calls June 1st the first day of winter, the media is
wrong.

And so are you.

Today is the shortest day of the year. In the northern hemisphere it is the longest day of the year. a midsummer's night. Shakespeare wrote a little play about it.

Please check your facts.

Blessings of the solstice to you.

Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! wdinau 6/21/13 4:46 AM
Forgive others is forgive yourself.

Not to say, even if today's isn't the 1st day of winter in au, so what? there's still this nice doodle, a little piece of art work to share with all AU people. Isn't it a nice thing?

Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! TonyProc 6/21/13 5:01 AM
Winter has always started on June 1 by convention. (See Bluequoll original post above) The winter solstice in Sth hemisphere will always be June 21 until Earths orbit around the Sun changes
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! robertcz 6/21/13 5:46 AM
Tracy is correct. Given how atmospheric cooling and heating lag the solstice, the winter solstice is actually first day of winter. We here in the subtropics might not notice, but tell the Melbournians and Hobartians! Just cos the press think winter starts on 1 June, does not make it right.
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Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Iaijutsu 6/21/13 6:16 AM
Actually if you want to argue FACTS, meteorologists consider winter to be June, July and August by month in the Southern Hemisphere and December, January, February in the northern hemisphere.

It is only non-meteorological authorities who consider it to start at Winter Solstice.

Personally I will go with the scientists, thank you very much.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter#Meteorological_reckoning

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Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! mayyit 6/21/13 6:44 AM
Australia? Where's that? (just j/k)

Apart from the atmospheric lag factor (it takes that long?) mentioned by robertcz below (or above) which I know nothing about, I would've thought that Winter should be 1.5 months either side of the solstice date (and conversely for other seasons).

How could the "start" of winter be right down its middle?? Shouldn't it be the middle?

I suppose the 1.5 month duration is arbitrary, and could vary by latitude (what are YOUR seasons?).

The criticism of the USA in this regard is highly unfair (I'm no fan of the yanks, but these criticisms... argh!). Using the "real" date of (the solstice in this case) is far more accurate than the convenience of gluing it to a month.

First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Nazim Rajani 6/21/13 6:56 AM
poor world. fighting over a doodle.
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Brandon Dilbeck 6/21/13 8:28 AM
It's just a cute picture of somebody knitting a weird glove. If you hover over it, it gives you the title and creator of the artwork. Clicking on it takes you to search results for "winter solstice 2013", not "Today is the first day of winter; deal with it."

Would you rather Google have displayed just their ordinary logo today? It saddens me that this little .gif has upset you in this way.

Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! Kousha N. 6/21/13 1:02 PM
Oops -- we're sorry about that oversight.
Re: First Day of Winter 2013 Doodle in Australia - Wrong! bluequoll 6/21/13 3:28 PM
Thanks Kousha — great Doodle, by the way!
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