|Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||мария||8/8/13 12:05 PM|
Today we launched a new feature in Webmaster Tools — the manual action viewer — which enables a verified site owner to check whether a manual spam action has been applied to her site.
You can read more about it on the Webmaster Central blog.
Very few sites have issues with webspam (a recent analysis of our index showed that well under 2% of domains we've seen are manually removed for webspam). It’s likely that when you check your site in Webmaster Tools, you’ll see “No manual webspam actions found”.
If you do see something, there will be details on the relevant type of manual action, as well as a link to detailed articles in our Help Centre where you can learn more. You can also apply for reconsideration from the manual action viewer page after you’ve made the necessary changes.
To try it out, go to the "Search Traffic" section in your Webmaster Tools account and select Manual Actions.
If you have questions or feedback about either of these new features, please post in this thread.
While we can't guarantee an individual response to every post, we will pass the feedback with examples along to the engineering team for the feature.
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|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Ben Griffiths||8/8/13 12:58 PM|
No more "Try firing a Reconsideration Request off to see if there's a manual penalty in place" advice then :)
Q: Will the feature show a manual penalty applied to the site under a previous owner, in the newly-verified owner's WMT?
Comes to mind because of this thread from today, from a new domain owner (transferred site) who is having trouble appearing in search:
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||maeschi||8/8/13 1:08 PM|
I hope this includes the more specific examples about what caused the penalty (e.g. more specific example links etc) as previously announced by Matt C.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Ben Griffiths||8/8/13 1:10 PM|
..adding, assuming I understand the blog picture correctly, this appears to be not only a tool to confirm a penalty and its scope but also a place to view a more precise cause than Google has generally shared before?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||lcurr||8/8/13 2:33 PM|
This is really good.
Potential site buyers can now request for evidence of non-action from site owners as part of their DD (due diligence) process before deciding to buy a site.
I have one question - if a new site owner purchased a domain with a history where the manual action was applied and has not been revoked at the time of purchase, will the notification will be in the new site owner's WMT account, presuming of course, that the new site owner has verified his/her site already?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||lcurr||8/8/13 5:24 PM|
For the life of me, Ben, I did not even see until right NOW that you posted the same question as me.
And you referenced one of the threads I was thinking of as well!
Where are my eyes??!!
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Ben Griffiths||8/8/13 5:31 PM|
Twice the chance of an answer, surely? :D
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Michael Wyszomierski||8/8/13 5:54 PM|
If the manual action is still active on the domain, yes, you'll see it as a verified owner in Webmaster Tools.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||MB Mohan.||8/9/13 12:48 AM|
Mam, So far days yesterday also when i search in google my site keyword as "teluguwap" its shows in 3rd or 4th place
But when i search today its not showing in any where
So, please let me know, help me & replay as soon as possible
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||faca5||8/9/13 1:59 AM|
Can you put this status on the LIST where is public all websites? We have more then 500 domains and do not have time to check which websites have any kind of problem. This will help us to fix any of this kind of proble mand you to have clear web base.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||MB Mohan.||8/9/13 2:06 AM|
Hi, Good Afternoon.. my sitw URL http://iteluguwap.com
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Iwein Dekoninck||8/9/13 3:01 AM|
A couple of our clients sites have a "Partial Matches" action shown on their GWT accounts:
So, I've read http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/manual-actions-viewer.html and watched the Matt Cutts video https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/2604772?ctx=MAC, and read the article there as well.
"If you don't control the links pointing to your site, no action is required on your part. From Google's perspective, the links already won't count in ranking. However, if possible, you may wish to remove any artificial links to your site and, if you're able to get the artificial links removed, submit a reconsideration request. If we determine that the links to your site are no longer in violation of our guidelines, we’ll revoke the manual action."
I'm confused. On the one hand the clear advice is that no action is required. On the other hand, the advice is also to get those links removed and to submit a reconsideration request.
Most of the information published talks about specific action taken on links. However, in the video, Matt talks about action taken on anchors. Does this mean anchor text (therefore impacting search performance on specific search phrases), or does this mean links (therefore that those specific links won't be counted)?
If specific action means that links aren't counted, then what would the benefit be of getting those links removed?
Any clarification would be gratefully received :-)
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||4factor||8/9/13 8:07 AM|
I do not have a web spam issue to address, but still my site is compromised with Google algorithms change. I still want to request a review from Google. From where i can do that?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||imnotadoctor||8/9/13 8:51 AM|
I have the same concerns and would like clarity.
Under the page for "Unnatural links to your site—impacts links" It says "If you don't control the links pointing to your site, no action is required on your part. From Google's perspective, the links already won't count in ranking."
However, in the video Matt Cutts say's "That we might take action on some of those Anchors. So you might not be able to rank for the phrases to be expected" (3:10 in the video).
So, do the links not count, but anchor text penalty is applied? or does Google have the option to penalize the anchor? It is not clear on how you would determine solely on the warning in GWMT.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Marie Haynes||8/9/13 8:53 AM|
You can't. If your site is affected by the algorithm, then the only thing you can do is make changes that will satisfy the algorithm. A manual review won't make any difference.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||FrancisTTG||8/9/13 9:29 AM|
Yes, we got a small warning. Then a big warning (orange triangle) but looking at this section shows just a partial manual action and the message that you can do nothing if you like. Matt Cutts' videos until now have said. Try to remove as much as you can then disavow. People in this forum are even advicing sending out letters to physical addresses etc to get links removed. This seems different advice
+ For us which is it? A big warning or a small warning where you can do nothing?
This is definitely confusing for people that have already got penalties.
Thanks for any help.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||4factor||8/9/13 9:37 AM|
I still need to submit it for manual review. can u please give me its link or email address
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||KORPG Kevin||8/9/13 9:45 AM|
There is no way to ask the algorithm to perform a manual review.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||4factor||8/9/13 9:58 AM|
Then what should i do? how do i contact the algorithm. Just yesterday they changed it. please help me.. my site traffic is gone more than 80%.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||KORPG Kevin||8/9/13 10:00 AM|
Open a new thread, post your url and someone here can perhaps audit your site for reasons its no longer ranking.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||mvandemar||8/9/13 10:30 AM|
Mariya, why did this new tool replace the Reconsideration Request form? It was being used for more than just "manual actions":
I find it hard to believe that they didn't think this through a little bit before nixing that form altogether...
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Darcy Burk||8/9/13 10:38 AM|
A client of mine had a Manual Spam penalty applied to their site. After going through the disavow process I received a notification that the manual action applied to the site was removed. Now today, with Google's release of the "Manual Action" section in WMT I can see that there is a message about the "Partial Matches" issue still existing? How can this be if the manual action was confirmed to be revoked?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||imnotadoctor||8/9/13 11:48 AM|
Well you bring up an interesting topic. Just because you have a manual penalty doesn't mean you don't also have an algorithmic penalty.
My specific question or concern is that it would be nice to know if the anchor text penalty is occurring manually or algorithmically. I have seen cases where one website has this "impact links" and see no sign of an anchor penalty on the given example links, which would lead one to believe that the links are discounted and anchor text is not effected. In other instances, I have seen websites with the same warning but with anchor text penalty, which would lead to one believe that the links are discounted and anchor text is penalized (unless there was an algorithmic penalty as well).
With the message of "If you don't control the links pointing to your site, no action is required on your part." it hard to till if you really need to do anything cause the last thing you want to do is have some untrained yahoo (no pun intend) start disavowing all sorts of links from a profile and lose rankings.
Here is our post talking about this: http://www.elevatedsearch.com/gwmt-new-manual-webspam-action-view-what-does-it-mean/
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Marie Haynes||8/9/13 12:30 PM|
Oops. It looks like the tool has now disappeared. I'm wondering if Google took it down temporarily so they could fix some bugs. I'm hoping that perhaps when it returns there will be more example links for sites with UNL penalties.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Ben Griffiths||8/9/13 12:32 PM|
Or someone worked out the URL parameter to send to get the penalty revoked? :D
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||RaseOne||8/9/13 10:16 PM|
I simply do not see this option when I log in to wmt. I've read in 3 different places where it is... but it's not. It's not anywhere. Is anyone else experiencing this? I've been checking back for a few hours now & it's just not there...?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Redleg x3||8/9/13 10:25 PM|
The feature has been temporarily taken off-line.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||accessted||8/10/13 12:12 PM|
Why is there no Manual action in my webmaster tools? Looked at a few of my sites, and none of them have that option.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Redleg x3||8/10/13 12:47 PM|
I believe I have read somewhere
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||accessted||8/10/13 12:53 PM|
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||matt@silverimage||8/10/13 1:31 PM|
is this tool coming shortly back?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Marie Haynes||8/10/13 1:39 PM|
Google says it will be offline for "a couple of days" while they fix a snag.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||matt@silverimage||8/10/13 2:04 PM|
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||terry noname||8/11/13 2:16 AM|
Welcome to Webmaster Help Forum, its always good to see a new Google face.
Hope to see many more posts in your quest to help members of the public.
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|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||dahelp||8/11/13 5:51 PM|
I have a question to the "Unnatural links to your site - impacts links" message, directing to this help page:
(For me, as far i can see, its a row of footer links).
The message says, that no actions from my side is needed but when i can remove that links i should make a reconsideration.
Anyway, there are 3 important variants - one "good" and 2 "bad".
A.) Thats the good one: The manual penalty disvalues the incoming links. Is it so and is that all, all is ok
B.) Is a bit more worse: The keyword in the bad links get a penalty
C.) most worse: A page that link goes to gets a penalty
So, the BIG questions is: Is the message which tells us about "impact links" and "no actions required except you can change the links" is always case A?
Or must i fear a hidden, partial penalty to the page that link goes and/or keyword the bad links are directed to?
Will simply the link power of the manual removed links goes away or must i fear side effects of a deeper manual penealy to pages/keyword which
effects "good links" then too?
Can case A be confirmed from a google employee please?
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|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Jacob Gryn||8/12/13 4:55 PM|
I have a client that was penalized and got the "Manual spam action revoked" message on July 15. Nevertheless, this tool still says
"Partial matches Some manual actions apply to specific pages, sections, or links". Rankings have only really gone down since the manual span action was revoked, and not yet improved.
Does it take a while for this tool to update, or do we need to submit another reconsideration request, or was there some sort of another error?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Mohit-Sharma||8/12/13 10:45 PM|
GWT shows that my website has a Partial Match Action for unnatural links. Here is what it says exactly:
Unnatural links to your site—impacts linksGoogle has detected a pattern of unnatural artificial, deceptive, or manipulative links pointing to pages on this site. Some links may be outside of the webmaster’s control, so for this incident we are taking targeted action on the unnatural links instead of on the site’s ranking as a whole.
and under Affects it says - Some incoming links
Do I need to worry about this and work on removing links and can I ignore it and continue working on making my website better for end users?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Marie Haynes||8/13/13 3:19 AM|
I have a client in the same boat as you Jacob. They had a manual spam action revoked message about a month ago and the tool now says that there is a partial match action.
What I did was request reconsideration again and now we are waiting to see what Google says.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Marie Haynes||8/13/13 3:23 AM|
I wish Google was more clear on the wording of this message! Almost all of the unnatural links penalty clients that I have have this same message. It seems to me that if you have a penalty that is severe enough to take your site out of the index completely you get the "full site" message but otherwise the partial action one.
All of the sites that I am working on that have the partial action message have a large number of very unnatural links in their backlink profile. It's possible that Google is simply no longer counting those links and that nothing has to be done. However, those sites are all prime candidates for the Penguin algorithm to hit and as such the backlink profiles do need to be cleared up. For any of these sites, if you clean up some links (but not all) and apply for reconsideration, Google says, "We still see unnatural links pointing to your site." In my opinion the work still needs to be done.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||achris82||8/13/13 4:58 AM|
I've been following your adventures in link removal for a while and bought your ebook to help with our own reconsideration request (on 4th attempt) your right that the wording is yet again so unclear:
"Google has detected a pattern of unnatural artificial, deceptive, or manipulative links pointing to pages on this site. Some links may be outside of the webmaster’s control, so for this incident we are taking targeted action on the unnatural links instead of on the site’s ranking as a whole." is the message we have and it makes it out that it's not the sites ranking that's effected just the links and if those links helped us to rank in the positions we had then by google taking action on them would mean that's why we no longer rank!
Of course i'm still going to keep removing links until I get a successful reconsideration request (it's been over a year now!!!) What I really want is the example links we were promised! Is this still coming for everyone or is it only select sites that will get examples? Please google it would be great to know this.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||achris82||8/13/13 6:18 AM|
The other confusing thing is the 2 videos based on what message you have:
Video 1. Unnatural links to your site—impacts links : which is what I have, but I have been looking at and taking the action for video 2
Video 2. Unnatural links to your site - which seems to indicate a separate issue?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||maxumer||8/16/13 1:39 PM|
We spent hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars trying to fix the problems, constructed a well thought request, and now we can't submit a reconsideration request because we didn't have a manual action against us? We still lost 80% of our organic search traffic so there must have been some aggressive action taken. We desperately need the ability to ask for reconsideration or we will go out of business. People have invested 4 years of their lives in Cheapism.com, have created only valuable original content and now there is no one to talk to. We never bought a link in our lives. Please help us.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Marie Haynes||8/16/13 7:03 PM|
Maxumer...if you didn't have a manual action against the site then even if you had filed for reconsideration you would have received an automated message back from Google saying that there was no manual spam action found on your site and that you could be under the effects of an algorithm. If this is the case, a manual review won't make a difference because the algorithm is not going to change.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||ChrisHo||8/19/13 12:42 PM|
I just want to confirm something to help better understand this new WMT feature...
If there is a drop in traffic but not manual actions mentioned in WMT then is it safe to say it's probably algorithmic, a problem with the site itself, or some other industry related change?
OR simply put... if there are no manual actions identified then there is no penalty?
|Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||terry noname||8/19/13 6:41 PM|
Manual penalty verses algorithm filter!!
In my eyes theirs no difference they both self inflicted penalties, manual been easier to recover from than an algorithm filter, because with a manual penalty you have direction of "fix". With an algorithm filter you left clueless and have to look at all possibilities.
That said and done. If you receive a manual penalty the chances are high that you have also succumbed to an algorithm filter that's why they recommend you take additional steps to improve your site after the penalty has been lifted. Otherwise the chances of regaining rankings would be futile. The manual penalty is only a partial issue, an issue that became excessive. Hence you received a manual penalty.
Its like owning a restaurant on Miami Beach and noticing a decline in bookings. You would now need to sit down and ask yourself a couple of hard questions.
Why aren't I getting referrals from local guest house?
Is it because of my entertainment, Bob Marley and Peter Tosh's singing marijuana tunes while flying high on rocks and coke?
Is it because of my 100% pure beef patties that are horse meat or my chefs penchant love for crotch scratching, spitting and peeing in the kitchen?
Or is it because of the drunk, drugged waitresses with no nipple caps and g-strings?
Or could it perhaps be over advertising the red light district girls and the brother from the hood peddling drugs on the pavement, and the local light bulb thief selling light bulbs to Methamphetamine addicts?
Those filter are difficult to recover from. But with manual intervention recovery is easier and more direct, even though full recovery requires additional work.
An example been the restaurants health certificate been revoked due to it been reported or due to a routine check.
In this instance you would start in the kitchen by killing all cockroaches and dismiss the crotch scratching, spitting, peeing chef and employ an Executive Chef (Chef de Cuisine). The next step is to discard the horse patties and at least (if no other alternative) order crappy, thin, fake, pure beef patties from Mc Donald's.
Once inspected (the reconsideration request) and found compliant the health department (Webspam Team) would reinstate your health certificate (lift the penalty)
But recovery will not occur unless you go the extra mile and kick BoB Marley's @ss out on the street and start playing laid back jazz or romantic music.
The waitresses need rehabilitation and clothing, the red light girls and the drug peddling boys from the hood need Joe Arpaio's tent camp in Maricopa County, while all old advertising on street poles needs to be removed and new advertising strategies need to be implemented down at the fun fair, local Miami radio station, top notch hotels and maybe the odd pimp or two ;)
A new look could also help by trashing the red light, replacing it with subtle lights and perhaps a marine fish tank in the window for ambiance.
That should do it. Now you need to wait, recovery takes time.
The moral of my crappy post is. Either one of the two (manual Web Spam penalty or algorithm filter) need an overall site evaluation and possible overall site change. I suspect they work hand in hand with each other (manual penalty and algorithm filter)
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Jake Risman||8/21/13 10:40 PM|
We receive a manual action to our domain www.moddeals.com We have spent 2 month disavowing links(we never paid for spam, linkbuilding blackhat, etc) We are just a regular clothing retailer trying to get our piece of the pie. We just got the reconsideration request back and were denied. They sited a few links that show we are spam shown below. Problem is that we have already disavowed them, and yet they still show up to google, so I am not sure what to do. Every list we disavowed still shows up when you download the link table. What should we do here?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Marie Haynes||8/22/13 6:12 AM|
It's probably best to start your own thread for further discussion on this but in short, it is not enough to just disavow your unnatural links. You need to make efforts to get these links removed and document these efforts in a Google Doc.
Also, disavowed links will still show up in your WMT list of links. Disavowing them tells Google that you would like them to not pass PageRank through the links but they still appear as links to your site.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Julian M.||8/27/13 9:52 PM|
I had some trouble with a site recently. It got hacked and had cloaked pages with spam links and keywords.
The entire website was redeveloped on a new server. I submitted a reconsideration request about a week ago, and received a response today (message ID [WMT-94542]).
We've reviewed your site and we believe that http://www.example.com/ still violates our quality guidelines.
For more specific information about the status of your site, visit the Manual Actions page in Webmaster Tools. From there, you may request reconsideration of your site again when you believe your site no longer violates the quality guidelines.
However, I cannot find any obvious issues with the new site, and the message from Google contains no clues about what to look for. Also, when I go to the Manual Actions page, I see the following:
No manual webspam actions found.
Not sure where to go from here.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||maeschi||8/28/13 8:16 AM|
as your site got hacked you may consider going through the step by step process to remove malware.
Not saying there is still malware or cloaked pages on your site, but by telling Google in the reconsideration request that the violation is/was due to a hack you may be able to get more specific answers/actions.
Have a read here about malware review requests...https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/168328
And please start your own thread so the discussion can go on...this thread is reserved to discuss the new features in GWMT.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||lcurr||8/28/13 1:36 PM|
If he has no manual actions taken against his site, then he can't file for a reconsideration request.
See JohnMu's reply here:
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||SEO Ivan||8/28/13 2:44 PM|
Just posted in a new thread! Sorry, but here is the issue:
I am trying to do a reconsideration request for our website, and it seems like the tool for that is broken! It gives an error message like this (screenshot):
And the video of the whole process and an error message is here:
Hope you can help! Really want to get that penalty lifted!
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||lcurr||8/28/13 2:55 PM|
Try logging out and clearing your cache, then log back in and try the submission again to see if it works.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Michael Wyszomierski||8/28/13 3:41 PM|
Thanks for the report, SEO Ivan. Have you tried on a different computer/browser? Have you tried temporarily disabling extensions? In the meantime, we'll review your site, but if you're able to submit a request with all of your documentation (or link to it here if you're ok with it being public), that could be helpful.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Michael Wyszomierski||8/28/13 4:29 PM|
Looking at your video, it looks like you entered quite a bit of text into the reconsideration box. Could you also try submitting a request with a smaller amount of text? You could link off to a more in-depth document within the request.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||SEO Ivan||8/29/13 6:51 AM|
Thanks for the advice. Tries that one, didn't work.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||SEO Ivan||8/29/13 6:59 AM|
I've submitted the request by linking to the text in the Google Doc and it went through.
Here is the text I used, it contains all the information of our efforts (link in the outside file):
Apologies for the duplicate submission requests, we've a problem with reconsideration request submissions and have posted in the thread here about the problem: http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/webmasters/webmaster-tools/N9BstZuxJpg (alias "SEO Ivan")
The screenshot of the problem: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzA_Wr0jz2hxbXVneV9yeDVkX28/edit
Due to the issue, I was advised in the Google Webmaster Central to try and reduce the amount of text in the submission, hence I pasted our reconsideration text in Google document, which you can find here for your review.
Reconsideration request: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CvXv6wQrOX1NvXFH_mbKa6YVPwi5r_SpAaWtz-D6Am8/edit?usp=sharing
Apologies for the inconvenience.
Just in case, here is a request that didn't fit in the form: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CvXv6wQrOX1NvXFH_mbKa6YVPwi5r_SpAaWtz-D6Am8/edit?usp=sharing
I tried submitting it many times probably 10 in total, so I am worried that Google may view this as spam, and overlook our letter entirely. Any advice Michael?
In regards to the original submission, I kept getting the error message, however when I came back today there was a message in webmaster tools saying that Google received the request!
So I did what you advised and submitted it again, but reduced the text and linked to an outside file...
Not sure what to do, hope you can help. Really put a lot of effort into it.
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|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Ben Griffiths||8/29/13 7:32 AM|
a) Start a new thread if you want to discuss a site
b) I can see your URL in the image, which is probably a mistake.
c) Yes, they're not lying, 'up to' several weeks. They have work to do to evaluate your submission, they're humans.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Jason Hotham||8/29/13 7:40 AM|
That it was a mistake, thanks.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Ross Fraser||8/30/13 5:46 PM|
I had a manual action against a page on my blog (which pointed to my main website), which I removed from my blog site and applied for a reconsideration.
The initial report showed one page (a sample url) that was in breach.
I received a reply saying my site was still outside of the google guidelines and it cited 1 more sample page after I waited a week for a response.
At this rate it will take 300000 years if I am only shown 1 example problem at a time. The second 'unacceptable link' was not created by me and I have no idea where it came from, I suspect a competitor is trying to hurt my previously good rankings.
Come on google, make it easy for us by suppling all the manual links you consider unacceptable so we can act quickly to have them added to the "disavow list"
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Аккаунт Аналитики||9/2/13 3:14 AM|
Согласно запросу [WMT-95204].
Один из сайтов наших клиентов схлопотал ручные санкции за искусственные внешние ссылки.
Почти сразу были сняты арендованные ссылки. (прошло уже несколько месяцев).
Что касается гостевых постов в блогах, мы провели переписку с вебмастерами и часть ссылок удалось снять, части прописать атрибут nofollow.
Но по-прежнему осталось более 50 ссылок, на которые мы не можем повлиять - вебмастера не отвечают на запросы. И, поскольку, ссылки проставлялись не через автоматические сервисы, а путем контактов с вебмастерами, снять их не можем.
Все обнаруженные ссылки, над которыми провели работы, были приведены в файле при отправке запроса.
Несколько дней назад пришел очередной ответ с примерами "плохих" ссылок. Но обе эти ссылки ранее уже были указаны во вложенном файле, одна из них добавлена в disavow tool. Что ещё мы можем сделать, что-бы снять санкции с сайта? Как справиться со ссылками, на которые не можем повлиять?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Akashverma ???||9/3/13 11:55 PM|
i like your post
i need some help i m facing problem before 6 month http://www.seoexpertz.com/ it is my domain
i have done too much work on this but it isn't on rank please give me some instruction.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Libby Galin||9/4/13 12:35 PM|
I don't seem to have the "Search Traffic" section on my Webmaster Tools Account. Why is this? Where can I find it?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Ben Griffiths||9/5/13 6:34 AM|
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|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||elyas bardast||9/7/13 1:54 AM|
i am from iran and programing delphi sql android java
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|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||K9byron||9/7/13 2:10 PM|
Nice! I have been getting the exact error message that SEO Ivan has been getting. I check the amount of text I was pasting in there and its over 3200 words! I'll add that to a Google Doc and try submitting. I'll also try logging out and clearing cache as well!
Question: I submitted my Disavow a few days ago ...I have been trying to submit the RR since then. When I get the RR to finally go through, is it recommended to resubmit the disavow or does that matter? I dont figure it does matter but, since I havent been having very good luck with this RR submission I figured I'd just check :)
Suggestion: I have been spending lots of time and searching around a lot looking for answers like this. It seems to me that it might save everyone lots of time and aggravation, including Google employee's and forum contributors, to simply add text to the RR Form box that gives a text (word count) limit. And, instead just the "Oops" error message maybe you could add a little more helpful error message that recommends things like logging out and clearing cache ect :)
Thanks for the info guys! I'll giv'r another try. Got another RR coming at you in a minute so get ready! ...I'm sure your thrilled to hear that! lol
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Wmwright123456789e||9/12/13 12:45 PM|
Is this tool/function still currently offline? When I attempt to check the link it just redirects me to my webmaster tools dashboard again.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Michael Wyszomierski||9/12/13 1:37 PM|
@Wmwright123456789e the feature should be working for any site that you're a verified owner of. Are you clicking on the "Manual Actions" link under "Search Traffic" and getting redirected?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Matt-from-UK||9/13/13 7:58 AM|
Does anyone have any advice on my issue.
I have a client who is a large manufacturer of flooring goods. They do not sell directly and only sell via retailers/official suppliers. As a result they have tons of links to their product pages from small independant flooring shops and suppliers. It goes without saying that almost all of these guys have paid some local Web developer to knock them together a quick website. The result is a huge amount of offical but low quality sites linking to the product pages on my clients site. They're all legit links from small businesses and family owned flooring shops. Google is seeing these as low quality and has applied the 'Partial Match Targeted action'.
I'd understand if the links were from low quality, spammy, irrelevant sites etc. It's just that these sites are low quality because they're small shops who don't really use their websites for much more than an online presence and contact/find us mechanism.
I can't really disavow thelinks or ask them to take them down as they're sinply using the link to say "look, we sell this stuff and are official suppliers/fitters for it". The site hasn't been penalised site-wdie (thank god) but equally I dont want to recommend doing nothing about the warning.
Has anyone else experienceed this sort of problem? Not sure about the best way to progress this, it seems like a flaw in the Google 'judgement' i.e. All low quality sites are essentially going to be illegit or in some way deceptive.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Marie Haynes||9/13/13 8:18 AM|
Do you know for sure that these are the links that Google is concerned about? Did they give you any as examples of bad links?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||SciFy||9/14/13 11:22 AM|
Manual action has been revoked after reconsideration request for my site. But I can still found manual action message (Unnatural links to your site - impacts links) in GWT.
Let me know how to get it fixed.
Waiting for response.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Tarun Dhawan||9/15/13 2:50 PM|
I jst saw this ?? doesnt seem right or is it?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Matt-from-UK||9/16/13 1:59 AM|
Strangely enough they didn't give any examples of the links they were talking about, just the warning and information to state they'd taken partial/targeted action. It's not the end of the world as the action they've taken is aimed at the links rather than my clients site. They also state that no further action is required but that cleaning up the list would be a good idea (unless like me, cleaning up the list would result in a huge loss of relationship with many smaller retailers!).
So to answer your question Marie, there were no bad examples given.
Maybe I should request a review and explain th problems with it.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||SciFy||9/16/13 4:52 AM|
Manual action has been revoked after successful reconsideration, but I can still see manual action message in "Search Traffic" section.
How to fix it?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Used Surplus||9/16/13 1:02 PM|
Our Website has been determined by Google that we are in violation of the Webmaster Guidelines, as stated in an email yesterday, and also stated on Webmaster Tools Messages. However, I have been looking at "manual actions", and there is no indication of a violation. I don't believe we are in violation, and I would like "reconsideration" for SurplusRecord.com
The reconsideration link is suppose to be located under "Manual Actions," but it says that we have "No" Manual Actions to consider.
I imagine the issue may have been that our mirror site SurplusRecord.Net has over 200,000 links to SurplusRecord.com. That has been the case for 10 years, and it has nothing to do with unnatural links, it is simply a backup site for SurplusRecord.com. Nevertheless, to avoid any future allegations of impropriety we have removed these links.
So, it appears that the Manual Actions Tool is not functioning. What can I do for either "reconsideration" or how do I "resubmit" the SurplusRecord.com site?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Bahrain Ramlan||9/17/13 8:00 AM|
i want to know why html improvement, link to your site, internal link show no data available?
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|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Dale Gillespie||9/18/13 10:45 AM|
one of my sites 'had'/'has' a manual action notification in the manual action viewer however today I linked my analytics to webmaster tools to help further analyse and help get rid of the webspam.
However here is the problem shortly after I merged I noticed the manual action had disappeared, we are working very hard on a detailed resubmission request however it will all be for nothing if I cant do a reconsideration request
Please help never thought I would say this ... but can you revive my manual action notice and or give me another manual action? Then after we have finished the clean up I can request re-submission.
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|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Dale Gillespie||9/18/13 10:53 AM|
Please Please Help!!
I have a manual action penalty! At least I did???
Today I connected my analytic's account to my webmaster tools account and the manual penalty notification disappeared immediately after, I was simply trying to get more info sharing between the accounts.
This is not a day for celebration however as this is clearly a weird error, I have been working, and am still working very hard with my team to remove all toxic links from our profile as fast as we can, however now that the notification has bizzarly gone (despite still having the unnatural inbound links email) we cant now submit a reconsideration request once we have finished the removal.
Can you please help?.... cant believe Im going to say this but Please reactivate the manual penalty so that when we have finished the clean up I can request a re-submission.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Michael Wyszomierski||9/18/13 2:25 PM|
If you don't see a manual action listed in the manual actions viewer, there's nothing for us to revoke, and no need to file a reconsideration request. Even if the manual action was active at the time you received a notification, it could have expired since then.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Geoff Hay||9/19/13 12:33 AM|
Thanks for the quick reply.
I did see a manual action there yesterday morning, and we have been furiously working on a reconsideration request, it was there immediately before I merged the account and then it was gone after. I think it is a bug in webmaster tools rather than it being mysteriously revoked.
The site still has plenty of spam links that need tidying up including the one that google pointed out as an unnatural link in the manual action section.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||SciFy||9/19/13 4:58 AM|
@Michael, Can I have your comment for this issue? - https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/webmasters/N9BstZuxJpg/dXZc7zndD3AJ
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Thomas Redmond||9/19/13 5:59 AM|
Can someone please explain the process here? How many messages are sent from Google, and approximately how long does each take?
Here's what I have received so far:
1) Message acknowledging receipt of reconsideration request
2) Another message acknowledging that the request has been processed
3) And that's it...
Should I be expecting a 3rd message indicating whether or not the manual action will be lifted? How am I to know the outcome of processing my initial request? After waiting more than a month for this 3rd message, I filed another, more detailed request, and got the exact same experience. Is this typical? Am I not waiting long enough? I don't want to continue filing reconsideration requests again and again for the same issue, but I also don't want to do nothing...
Any clarity here would be greatly appreciated.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Marie Haynes||9/19/13 6:26 AM|
Hi Thomas...I'm not a Google employee but I might be able to help. Prior to the release of the Manual Actions Tool in August of this year, one of the messages that Google sent out to people, instead of saying either "manual spam action revoked" or "we still see unnatural links" was titled "We've processed your request". I believe that sites that got that message were ones were some of the manual action was lifted, but that there was still some sort of penalty on the site.
Now, you can look at whether or not your site has a manual action using the manual actions tool by going to search traffic --> manual actions.
If you still have a message there then you should reapply for reconsideration. I find it takes 5-7 days lately to get a response. It will not take 3 months! Also, if you do still have a manual action then when you reapply for reconsideration Google will likely give you some example links that need to be dealt with.
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|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Thomas Redmond||9/19/13 7:00 AM|
The second request I filed was received on 9/9/13, and then processed on 9/18/2013. Here is the contents of the last message received:
##We've now reviewed your site. When we review a site, we check to see if it's in violation of our quality guidelines, and revoke or adjust manual spam actions applied to the site if appropriate. You can use theManual Actions page in Webmaster Tools to view actions ##currently applied to your site.
##If your site isn't appearing in Google search results, or if it's performing more poorly than it once did,check out our Help Center to identify and fix potential causes of the problem.
That's it - no examples, no links, and no clear explanation on the result of their review. The manual action is stillShould I be expecting another, "here's what we did" message? Or is this it... I just don't understand why they are so vague.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Marie Haynes||9/19/13 7:26 AM|
What do you see when you look in the manual actions tool? (Search traffic --> Manual Actions). I'm guessing that you had a couple of partial actions and that they have removed one but that you still see partial actions there. If you still see something in your Manual Actions then it means that there is more work to be done.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Thomas Redmond||9/19/13 8:49 AM|
I'm still seeing the same "Partial Match" action that prompted the first reconsideration request. So nothing has changed in terms of the messaging under that tool (Search traffic --> Manual Actions). Another person on this forum indicated that I should be receiving a 3rd communication explaining the result of the site review. Is that still the case? Or am I to assume that because the initial partial match action remains, that there is still work to be done?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Marie Haynes||9/19/13 9:24 AM|
From what you've written I would not be expecting another reply. I think that it would be very unlikely to get a reply 8 days after you filed and then get another one later on. I really think that what they are saying (but not very clearly) is that you still have more work to do.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Michael Wyszomierski||9/19/13 3:03 PM|
If you're still seeing a manual action in the manual action viewer, then you may want to file another reconsideration request if you're able to get your links cleaned up. If you provide your URL, I can take a look and see if everything is working as intended on our end. There may be a slight delay between when you receive a message from us and when the data is updated in the manual actions viewer. If it looks like things are out of sync, check the viewer in a day or two. The viewer is updated over time, while messages are simply sent at a point in time, so the viewer usually shows more current information.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Michael Wyszomierski||9/19/13 3:08 PM|
Hi Dale, I can double-check if you provide your URL, but if there's nothing appearing in the viewer, then that should mean that the manual action is no longer applied to your site. Manual actions can expire on their own even if you don't submit a reconsideration request. Matt talks a little bit about that here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES01L4xjSXE.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Michael Wyszomierski||9/19/13 3:37 PM|
Marie captured it well. The typical messages you'll get are:
1. We've received your request.
2. We've processed your request. (This may be more specific, like telling you that we've revoked the action or that there's still an issue.)
If you've received the second message, we've finished processing the request. After we send the message, it may take a day or so for any changes we've made to propagate to the manual actions viewer. If you still see a manual action in the manual actions viewer after a day or so, that means that a manual action is still in place, and you can file another reconsideration request if you're ready for us to take another look.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||jesse zargosky||10/2/13 9:15 AM|
I have got a manual spam message for my website. After getting it i had started link removal processes. I have remove all the link which is unnatural and low quality links. I have share all the links with Google spam team through disavow tool. In webmaster tool i have got a following message.
"The file containing disavowed links to site has been updated. If this is unexpected, it may have been updated by another site owner. For more information, visit the Disavow links https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/disavow-links?siteUrl=mydomain.com/ page in Webmaster Tools."
This activity had done by me on 27-Sep-2013. After doing this i am tring to send the reconsideration request to Google with detailed information about the links which has deleted and how many webmaster are not replying etc. But i am getting following error at the time of reconsideration.
"Hm. Something isn't right. We're checking into it now."
Please suggest what should i do to submit my reconsideration so that i am able to get my previous rank back. Still my website having the manual spam message. Please provide the needful steps to do it. If you have required let me know i will share with you.
Looking forwards for better response from the expert.
Thanks in Advance.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||KC Ltd||11/7/13 5:26 PM|
Have you ever known a manual spam action to be revoked but not removed from the manual actions section in WMT? And then when you ask for a reconsideration request on the back of this, they reintroduce the spam action?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Mahes Babu M||1/3/14 1:16 PM|
I have a specific problem with google request a review portal. When I tried to submit my letter it says "Hm. Something isn't right. We're checking into it now". I don't know what does this mean to my website. I wrote a detailed letter about 1,900 words and tried to submit the letter through manual actions page. I tried out couple of times through out the day but couldn't get succeeded. I researched in google and found this link http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?1182156-Reconsideration-request and it says the error occurs when the word count is more. I don't think that is the actual reason because google said "submit your detailed reconsideration letter with full documentations and explanations" that means there is no word limit in that. For your reference i am attaching the screenshot of the error, please check and help me. I hope I get the answer from you since I have been following all of your articles written on reconsideration.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Marie Haynes||1/3/14 4:42 PM|
The most common reason I've seen for this error is indeed that the reconsideration request is too long. Google recommends if it is too long that you write a summary and put extra information in Google Docs and link to it from the request. Really, you want to try to make it as concise as possible. Keep in mind that the webspam team sees 5000+ requests a week. They likely don't have time to read through a long request. What I do in mine is something like this:
-brief intro paragraph
-admission of guilt (i.e. we used low quality articles, hired a cheap SEO company, etc.)
-short explanation of what we did (made a complete list of backlinks, manually checked one from each domain, assessed as natural or not, tried to remove and if couldn't remove, disavowed).
-link to my Google doc spreadsheet
-additional links to evidence that may help such as copies of emails and screenshots of contact forms (it's debatable whether this is necessary though). All of this is in Google docs
-A paragraph about how the company is reforming - i.e. new marketing plans that are being put in to place that don't involve creating our own links
I've seen a lot of people's reconsideration requests and know that people will very commonly try to explain how the links weren't their fault for some reason, or explain that they spend a lot on Adwords so Google should lift their penalty or go on and on about the validity of their business. In some cases, the reconsideration request has several paragraphs arguing Google's decision to penalize. All of this is unneccessary. Get the facts out and make it as short as possible and this seems to work the best for me.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Michael Wyszomierski||1/6/14 12:10 PM|
What Marie said. :)
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Mahes Babu M||1/6/14 12:51 PM|
I asked Marie about the error showing up in webmaster tools when I tried to submit my website reconsideration letter. The error was occurred because of words count in my letter. My letter count was about 1900 words and it did not work for me. So I asked Marie help to fix this error and she replied back with detailed answer. So I followed Marie guidance to make sure my reconsideration letter is not too long let say not more than 1500 words. After I rewrite my letter couple of times I was able to summarize my letter to 1450 words and it worked for me. So I got the fact from Marie answer that our reconsideration letter should not to be too longer and we should try to make it as short as possible. I hope it works for everyone. Thanks a ton to Marie on providing detailed information to every one who needs the help in filing reconsideration. Really I appreciate her efforts and research, answers and help...etc.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Michael Wyszomierski||1/6/14 1:21 PM|
I'm glad you got some good advice here. Good luck with your request!
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Mahes Babu M||1/6/14 1:54 PM|
Thank you so much for your help. Your answer really helped for me to submit the letter. I followed what ever you suggested and I summarized my letter to very short and kept the additional information in Google spread sheet and mentioned about that link in request letter. It really worked for me. Thank you so much for your help. Thanks for helping all the webmasters who are facing hard time with Google.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Marie Haynes||1/7/14 6:10 AM|
Glad to help! Good luck with your reconsideration!
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Jason Hotham||1/7/14 7:54 AM|
I'm having a massive frustration. I work for a big brand and we are now on a 5th reconsideration request and we have used all the best practice processes and tools etc. which includes Moz, Majestic, Ahrefs, Linkdetox, Webmaster Tools data and the list goes on. We are getting responses that are providing URL examples that include links from sites that don't appear in our data. Also the URLs have been disavowed.
We have also contacted "all" sites that are violating Google's guidelines and like I said we are failing on sites that are either disavowed or don't appear in our data. It is now proving absolutely impossible to have a penalty removed. Might I add it has been six months and 5 reconsideration requests and 1,000 of domains genuinely reviewed and contacted. This is practical and ethical to impose such a penalty that is exhausting all our resources. Or otherwise it's pay £1000's to agencies to do the work instead. Also I get reports from agencies who are doing less work to get out of penalties that we have done and now I'm beginning to think there is some discrimination. Also the fact that I have worked for an agency doesn't suggest they are doing it any better.
Surely after months of submitting reconsideration requests and showing contacting evidence, such as keeping evidence of emails sent and screenshots of contact forms filled in we should successfully show we are doing everything necessary, not to mention we are showing it's also an going process.
I think there are some rules being broken in the system of reviewing our efforts especially as we are getting link examples that are disavowed and not found in our data.
We have now gone through every row of domains and put a reference next to where we can prove we have either contacted the site by email where we can provide the email content and email address, and also if they have been contacted by a contact form. The contact form screen shot also has a reference next to it. We have followed these guidelines using Moz.com.
I'd like to you advise me what it is we are still not doing to be at this stage.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Marie Haynes||1/7/14 9:31 AM|
Hi Jason. I have had a few cases that have been difficult like yours is. Please know that I'm not a Google employee, but I can give you my thoughts on what is happening.
I have had cases where we looked at every possible link in ahrefs, majestic, open site explorer, and WMT and then were given example links that were not in that list. In most cases, you can find additional links by doing creative Google searches. One common culprit is press release links that contain keyword anchor text. Take a section of text from the press release and search for it in quotes. You will often find many other press releases that are linking to you but not in the backlink checkers.
While it is definitely frustrating that these links can't be found in backlink checkers, I believe that Google forces you to find these links because if you don't, then even if they remove your manual penalty you will still have struggles with the Penguin algorithm. Hopefully one day WMT will show all of the links that we need to deal with.
Are you disavowing on the url or the domain level? For example, you could disavow:
But that article could also be listed on:
You need to disavow on the domain level.
With that being said, I just had one reconsideration rejected this week where we disavowed on the domain level and the example links given were in our disavow file. What I can assume from that is that there are more links of that type that need to be gone. In that case, we were given example links that were low quality articles. I spent two days doing Google searches for phrases from the low quality articles that we knew existed and found 87 additional articles that were not in any backlink checkers! We are currently in the process of trying to get those removed and will reapply again soon.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Jason Hotham||1/9/14 7:40 AM|
I really appreciate your response it's eased the insanity we're facing here a little bit. We are on the verge on submitted our next reconsideration request.
I have a couple of questions about the number of times contacting a site.
1) Realistically for a contact form submission scenario where this is the only method available most just don't respond and we have contacted 100's, but should they be recontacted?
2) Regards to emails we have contacted nearly all more than once and some have not responded within weeks after more than one contact. What is your view on this?
3) What is the best way to show we have contacted a site more than once to ensure we don't fail for this reason? Also do people fail for this and how does Google advise you of this?
We just can't wait weeks and sometimes even days and recontacting by contact form and email for 100's of sites just isn't a practical use of resource surely?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Marie Haynes||1/11/14 12:26 PM|
I don't know that anyone outside of the webspam team really knows what is acceptable in terms of how many times a site should be contacted. What I do is include information on my spreadsheet that shows that I have tried to find as many methods of contact as possible. I have a column for the email address found on the site, the whois email address, the url of any contact form and if available a Twitter or Facebook page. If I can't find one of those then I enter "none" into my spreadsheet. My thinking is that this shows Google that we have at least tried to find ways to contact them. I usually only try each method once. However, if I have a site where I can't get many links removed I may try one or two methods a second time. I also make sure to make a note that says something like, "No response from site owner" or "no contact info found". And, I make notes like, "Site owner responded - unable to remove links" or "Wanted $50 for removal - will disavow". This shows that we have indeed tried very hard to communicate with site owners.
Of course, if a site owner doesn't respond then you disavow the site on the domain level.
I think that the vast majority of failures are not for failing to do proper contact but rather because not enough bad links were earmarked for removal. But, I also think that if a site has made no effort to remove and has just disavowed then this will fail them too.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Jason Hotham||1/11/14 12:36 PM|
Thanks for taking the time to respond on a non-work day. I'm relieved that you have covered all the things that we have been doing. At least that gives me the reassurance that I'm doing something right. Best thing is I think this can be shown here coming from someone expert like yourself and if Google picks this up I'd like them to advise openly what they expect to see if what you have advised could yet be improved. Thanks for your much appreciated assistance.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||AtSpace||1/12/14 1:24 PM|
How can it be that Manual Action that has in fact been taken doesn't show in the Manual Action Viewer?
We received a Notice this morning about an action being taken due to Unnatural Outbound links, and in fact our PR have disappeared - now PR0 instead of PR4 - but this action is NOT shown in the Manual Action viewer, and therefore there is no button to file a Reconsideration request for it?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Marie Haynes||1/13/14 9:37 AM|
I have found that sometimes the manual actions tool can take a few days to reflect what is happening in real time. Most likely within a day or two (or in some cases, up to a week) you should see the action there and also the "request a review" button.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Kamal G||1/21/14 9:34 AM|
In my webmaster account for my blog www.quizvook.com its showing just like this only "No manual webspam actions found." will my site is having any spam content.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Mahes Babu M||1/21/14 9:53 AM|
"No manual webspam actions found" means currently there is no spam actions found by Google. If your entire site or some of the pages on your site violating Google guidelines in terms of any low quality or spam links, generally you would get a message from Google "Unnatural Inbound links to your site" and you will see the status either Sitewide Penalty or Impact Incoming Links Penalty instead of No manual webspam actions found. Basically the Manual Actions page helps webmasters to know their current status on Links Pointing to their site is not about the content on the site.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Kamal G||1/21/14 6:13 PM|
Hey Mahes Babu M,
Now i clearly understood,thanks a lot for your reply friend....
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Mahes Babu M||2/5/14 12:43 PM|
I have a few doubts on filing reconsideration for SEO company.
1. If an SEO company haven't received any unnatural links message from google previously, but it has the partial penalty in Manual Actions page. How to write the reconsideration letter for this type of company. Below is the message in Manual actions page.
Unnatural links to your site—impacts linksGoogle has detected a pattern of unnatural artificial, deceptive, or manipulative links pointing to pages on this site. Some links may be outside of the webmaster’s control, so for this incident we are taking targeted action on the unnatural links instead of on the site’s ranking as a whole
2. How to file the reconsideration if an SEO company received the unnatural links message from Google.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Jason Hotham||2/11/14 12:28 AM|
Thanks again for your help.
I agree it took a couple of days for the manual actions tool to reflect that fact we were told the penalty had been removed.
So after 7 months we finally removed the penalty. Saying that by the end we have reviewed 7,500 domains totaling 95,000 links. These also include ever single webmaster link found webmaster tools.
We used scrapers and the leading tools to get all the data we could find.
Just one question the rankings affected by the penalty haven't returned back to normal yet. It has been 1 week now. How long would normally take?
p.s. how do I move up from Level 1 here to a higher level, especially now that I've got through a reconsideration request for one of the largest online retailers in the UK?
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||terry name||2/11/14 1:31 AM|
LOL, now I've heard it all.
It took you 7 months to removed the penalty, now you want a higher level.
Haha. 7 months is a disgrace you should be on level zero for that great achievement.
And by the way, your site will never fully recover. Reason been, what you were once credited for is now gone.
You have to work positively (on-site) to regain what you once had.
So go open a thread and ask for advice, in that way you will be able to climb the ladder to level 2 and maybe even bionic, top contributor after a couple of thousand helpful posts.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Ben Griffiths||2/11/14 3:00 AM|
Bear in mind you have no idea what "normal" rankings are. A Penguin update may reflect well on your site, but your previous rankings were built on quicksand.
The levels here relate to upvotes, post volume and Best Answers, AFAIK.
I guess this means the 60% off sale ends soon? ;)
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Jason Hotham||2/11/14 4:55 AM|
Thanks for hurting my ego Terry, at least we did it with out having to pay for an agency.
We reviewed 100% of the profile and it could've cost us £40k using an agency simply because of the sheer volume.
To be honest in reflection I would've preferred to disavow a lot more than trying to contact the sites at all, but we were pretty strict on reviewing every single domain and contacting where possible and more than once in most cases.
Unfortunately doing it around my normal workload and 7,500 domains and 5 reconsideration requests later we final got passed.
I've upvoted you even though you only said 2 sentences of something helpful ;)
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||terry name||2/11/14 5:21 AM|
Haha, thanks for the up-vote, it might make me a bionic.
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Jason Hotham||2/11/14 5:35 AM|
Haha no problem Terry, i understand.. just some humour from me also ;)
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Jason Hotham||2/11/14 5:36 AM|
Thanks Ben, I don't work for Homebase but I used to, no penalty there, it was my account for 2 years when I worked at any agency. We currently have upto 50% off plus free standard delivery ;)
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Ben Griffiths||2/11/14 5:41 AM|
I thought I saw a TV ad for 60%, maybe that was a while ago...
I didn't think it was homebase, I know exactly where you work (you posted it...), I'm being coy ;)
|Re: Questions about the manual action viewer in Webmaster Tools? Post here.||Jason Hotham||2/11/14 6:13 AM|
Ha! yes I remember now, i wasn't sure if you had or not, you flagged that i had at the time so i removed it .. ha :)