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Does a 410 status remove a manual penalty?

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Does a 410 status remove a manual penalty? Jason Dowdell 6/26/14 8:02 AM
I've read the FAQs and searched the help center. 
My URL is: http://www.gotrackinc.com/

My client's site had a manual penalty notice in GWT for their old domain that was 301 redirecting to their new domain www.gotrack.com. I was certain the manual penalty was algorithmically transferred to the new site because of the redirect so I 410'ed all of the old pages on the old domain (*gotrackinc.com) and the manual penalty went away (no longer appeared in GWT) but I'm certain it's in place and also still affecting their new site (www.gotrack.com)... However, GWT no longer shows the manual penalty in the old site's GWT account. I believe this is a bug but I cannot submit a reconsideration request because the notice is no longer appearing in GWT so I can't get an answer on this.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,
Jason Dowdell
Re: Does a 410 status remove a manual penalty? Benjamin.. 6/26/14 12:24 PM
Did the old domain hold lots of links? 

Ben
Re: Does a 410 status remove a manual penalty? Jason Dowdell 6/27/14 6:55 AM
Yes, it had a couple thousand, mostly low-quality and keyword stuffed, backlinks.

~jason
Re: Does a 410 status remove a manual penalty? Jason Dowdell 7/3/14 8:01 AM
Hi All,

Can anyone else provide some insight?

Thanks,
Jason
Re: Does a 410 status remove a manual penalty? Benjamin.. 7/3/14 3:52 PM
I will ask about and see if anyone else can help you out!
Re: Does a 410 status remove a manual penalty? webado 7/3/14 4:00 PM
You deleted urls from the site gotrack.com and they now respond with 404 or 410? ANd those were urls to which there were spammy backlinks? Then that's sorted,.

But what did you do about  the homepage? If that also had spammy backlinks you cannot delete it.
Re: Does a 410 status remove a manual penalty? black belt 7/3/14 6:03 PM
Looks like it's no longer redirecting the home page and there is just a text file in place.
Re: Does a 410 status remove a manual penalty? webado 7/3/14 6:16 PM
Should have a used a link to the new domain's homepage with rel="nofollow".
At least visitors will be able to find the new address.

I see no 404's for still indexed urls from the old site and no redirection from any of its url to the new site, or I simply did not run into them.


Re: Does a 410 status remove a manual penalty? JohnMu 7/5/14 3:20 PM
Hi Jason
I don't see a manual action for either of these sites -- otherwise it would also be visible in your Webmaster Tools account. That said, I do see that these old links are still pulling the site back, in particular our web-spam algorithms are pretty unhappy about them. My recommendation would be to really make sure that those old links are completely cleaned up across the board (as well as any other webspam issues you might find while doing that), and to keep in mind that some of these algorithms need quite a bit of time to have the updated results visible (with links, we need to be able to recrawl & reprocess them in order to recognize that they're removed, modified, or disavowed; this data then needs to be aggregated, reprocessed, and republished as new data for search). 

Cheers
John
Re: Does a 410 status remove a manual penalty? Jason Dowdell 7/7/14 2:14 PM
Thanks John, I appreciate your help on this as does my client.

~jason
Re: Does a 410 status remove a manual penalty? Martin Woods UK 7/7/14 2:24 PM
Hi Jason,

Firstly, I've had to deal with this issue a few times over the years,  picking up toasted domains, so I feel your pain.

You might hind this comment I made on a Cyrus Moz helpful.

http://moz.com/blog/how-google-knows-what-sites-you-control-and-why-it-matters-whiteboard-friday