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Why my site is considered as "Thin content"

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Why my site is considered as "Thin content" Murod Irgashev 7/18/13 6:50 AM
I've read the FAQs and searched the help center. 

Hi, my site is participating on amazon affiliate program and I'm publishing here laptops and providing laptop performance benchmarking, performance rating, amazon price history, amazon price drop tracker and questions/answers.    
13 June, I have received  message with subject 
"http://laptoptop7.com/: Thin content" 
Google has detected that some of your pages may be using techniques that are outside our Webmaster Guidelines
As a result of your site having thin content with little or no added value, Google has applied a manual spam action to laptoptop7.com/. There may be other actions on your site or parts of your site. 

and my site ranking in search begins going down.
After I have send reconsideration request and explained why my site is not spam site.
Then received message  "Reconsideration request for http://laptoptop7.com/: No manual spam actions found" with long text that says manual spam operation is removed.
After, site traffic is begin growing and then going down again. Now my site pages is not shown in Google results or shown on the last 17-18 pages nearby really spam sites or even after spam sites.  

I have read this

I apologize Google considered my site as thin affiliate or maybe something another. 
Please help!
Re: Why my site is considered as "Thin content" ets 7/18/13 9:14 AM
Hi Murod Irgashev.

I'm sorry to say that, yes, it does look like a thin affiliate site to me. It doesn't add much to what you can see at Amazon.

Re: Why my site is considered as "Thin content" Ben Griffiths 7/18/13 9:39 AM
"Then received message  "Reconsideration request for http://laptoptop7.com/: No manual spam actions found" with long text that says manual spam operation is removed."

Could you copy/paste that?

I'm publishing here laptops and providing laptop performance benchmarking, performance rating, amazon price history, amazon price drop tracker and questions/answers.

Which of these, if any, are unique to your site (not spun, I mean created for your site)? 
Re: Why my site is considered as "Thin content" Murod Irgashev 7/18/13 10:02 AM
"performance benchmarking, performance rating, amazon price history, amazon price drop tracker"  features not copy pasted and unique created for my site 
Re: Why my site is considered as "Thin content" travler. 7/18/13 10:13 AM
Adding to your woes, Murod, is the absence of the Amazon-TOS required disclaimer.

Also all affiliate links should be nofollowed, as they are considered paid links.

But thin content for sure.
Re: Why my site is considered as "Thin content" Murod Irgashev 7/18/13 10:52 AM
Maybe my mistake is presenting all my unique data in graphical format as charts and gauge ?
For example price history presented as Chart Date on X axis and Price on Y axis and Processor performance presented as Gauge.
I know many "amazon price drop tracker" sites (successful ranking on Google index) and they publishing only amazon price history and providing price drop notification sytem they also amazon affiliates. So I can't understand why my site is thin, my site is specialized only for laptops and additionally provides laptop performance benchmarking.
Re: Why my site is considered as "Thin content" Murod Irgashev 7/18/13 11:12 AM

Below original received Reconsideration messages

1. http://laptoptop7.com/: Thin content

Google has detected that some of your pages may be using techniques that are outside our Webmaster Guidelines.

As a result of your site having thin content with little or no added value, Google has applied a manual spam action to laptoptop7.com/. There may be other actions on your site or parts of your site.


Recommended action

  • Update your site so that it meets Google's Webmaster Guidelines.
  • Once you've made these changes, submit a reconsideration request.

If we determine your site is no longer in violation of our guidelines, we'll revoke the manual action.

If you have any questions about how to resolve this issue, please visit the Webmaster Help Forum.


2. Reconsideration request for http://laptoptop7.com/: No manual spam actions found

Dear site owner or webmaster of http://laptoptop7.com/,

We received a request from a site owner to reconsider http://laptoptop7.com/ for compliance with Google's Webmaster Guidelines.

We reviewed your site and found no manual actions by the webspam team that might affect your site's ranking in Google. There's no need to file a reconsideration request for your site, because any ranking issues you may be experiencing are not related to a manual action taken by the webspam team.

Of course, there may be other issues with your site that affect your site's ranking. Google's computers determine the order of our search results using a series of formulas known as algorithms. We make hundreds of changes to our search algorithms each year, and we employ more than 200 different signals when ranking pages. As our algorithms change and as the web (including your site) changes, some fluctuation in ranking can happen as we make updates to present the best results to our users.

If you've experienced a change in ranking which you suspect may be more than a simple algorithm change, there are other things you may want to investigate as possible causes, such as a major change to your site's content, content management system, or server architecture. For example, a site may not rank well if your server stops serving pages to Googlebot, or if you've changed the URLs for a large portion of your site's pages. This article has a list of other potential reasons your site may not be doing well in search.

If you're still unable to resolve your issue, please see our Webmaster Help Forum for support.

Sincerely,

Google Search Quality Team

Re: Why my site is considered as "Thin content" Ben Griffiths 7/18/13 12:52 PM
You do need to address the issues others have highlighted, but

1) Yes, data in machine-readable form will always have more impact on Google than data in images or other 'inaccesible' content (Flash, for instance). 

2) Getting those messages in that order makes no sense to me and of course can't be investigated by anyone outside Google. In that light, the latter one is the one I'd believe. 


Re: Why my site is considered as "Thin content" travler. 7/18/13 12:58 PM
The first message was received according to your OP on June 13

When did you file the RR and when did the reply come back?

Re: Why my site is considered as "Thin content" Murod Irgashev 7/18/13 4:05 PM
travler,
June 5 - 2500 impressions
June 7 - site traffic begins decreasing (1500 impressions)
June 13 -  I have 0 traffic and received "http://laptoptop7.com/: Thin content"
June 14 - Send reconsideration request
June 19 - Site traffic begins increasing
June 20 - Received "Reconsideration request for http://laptoptop7.com/: No manual spam actions found"
July 9 - Site traffic fell dramatically in one day, 0 traffic again.

Re: Why my site is considered as "Thin content" travler. 7/18/13 4:16 PM

June 20 - Received "Reconsideration request for http://laptoptop7.com/: No manual spam actions found"

But his also states:

 because any ranking issues you may be experiencing are not related to a manual action taken by the webspam team.
Of course, there may be other issues with your site that affect your site's ranking. Google's computers determine the order of our search results using a series of formulas known as algorithms. 

. . . 
If you've experienced a change in ranking which you suspect may be more than a simple algorithm change, there are other things you may want to investigate as possible causes, such as a major change to your site's content, content management system, or server architecture. For example, a site may not rank well if your server stops serving pages to Googlebot, or if you've changed the URLs for a large portion of your site's pages. This article has a list of other potential reasons your site may not be doing well in search.

So this may not be related to the thin content identified earlier. I still see thin content but don't have time now to look closer.


Re: Why my site is considered as "Thin content" Murod Irgashev 7/18/13 4:54 PM
Ben, travler thank you a lot for your help.
But I'm still confusing, should I first fix my thin content? Maybe it's simple issue and I can fix it quickly.
travler, are you will be able to look later?
Re: Why my site is considered as "Thin content" lcurr 7/18/13 5:03 PM
You said this:

>> June 19 - Site traffic begins increasing
>> July 9 - Site traffic fell dramatically in one day, 0 traffic again.

As Travelr said, you've most likely recovered from a manual penalty, then was hit by an algorithmic penalty. If you read around the forum, there have been a few sites that were hit around the same time (July 9, 10, 11 etc) with a fall in traffic.


>> But I'm still confusing, should I first fix my thin content? Maybe it's simple issue and I can fix it quickly.

Since it looks as if it's an algorithmic penalty, you need to look at everything, not just thin content. Read the guidelines and see if anything applies to you which can be fixed:


Re: Why my site is considered as "Thin content" Murod Irgashev 7/18/13 6:05 PM
Seems my big issue is here https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/2721311
Thanks for everyone!

Re: Why my site is considered as "Thin content" ets 7/18/13 11:26 PM
It's good that you can see the weaknesses in your site Murod, because that means you are already at least 50% of the way to solving the problem. A lot of people here refuse even to see they have a problem, so they never solve it. Good luck!