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New Web site- Re-directing web pages & duplicate pages

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New Web site- Re-directing web pages & duplicate pages gassmann56560 6/24/10 10:05 AM
I have read the FAQs and checked for similar issues: YES
My site's URL (web address) is: www.ironwoodelectronics.com
Description (including timeline of any changes made): New web site went live last Friday.
      Hi. I just created a new web site for my company. Our older web pages were all HTML. Now they are mostly .cfm (Cold Fusion) pages. I just want to make sure that I did the re-directing correctly so we do not get dropped from Google. Can someone please help me with this? Some of our older pages had frames, so on these pages I used this Re-Direct code:

 <SCRIPT language="JavaScript">
<!--
 function getgoing()
  {
    top.location="http://www.ironwoodelectronics.com/products/sockets/ghz_bga_qfn_sockets.cfm";
   }
   if (top.frames.length > 0)
    {
     setTimeout('getgoing()',10);
     }
//-->
</SCRIPT>
 
      For all the other normal HTML files re-directing to the .cfm pages, I used this code:
<meta HTTP-EQUIV="REFRESH" content="0; url=http://www.ironwoodelectronics.com/contact_us.cfm">

Thanks for your help.

Andy2010-06-24

I also wanted to mention that I still have our old HTML pages on our site so they can re-direct to the new pages in case someone found them on Google and clicked on them. Should I keep these old pages for awhile? Or can I have Google's robot come crawl our web site and get the new pages and then delete the old ones so they don't show up in Google anymore? Or do I have to remove the old pages before Google's robot comes and crawls our site so they don't get indexed again in Google?

Re: New Web site- Re-directing web pages & duplicate pages anonyrat 6/24/10 10:31 AM
I have no idea if the script will help the users, the bot typically is not influenced by scripting.
You are using a microsoft server, consider canonical links to point the bot at the new content.

Re: New Web site- Re-directing web pages & duplicate pages gassmann56560 6/24/10 11:29 AM
Do I need to put the canonical code on all the pages that are kind of duplicates? Or can I just put it on the home page?
Re: New Web site- Re-directing web pages & duplicate pages gassmann56560 6/24/10 11:42 AM
These pages are not exactly the same. Does that matter? Do I need to do this canonical code then? For instance, we used to have index.html and now it's index.cfm. We created a new site and so not all the same info. from the old home page is on the new home page. Do I need to do anything, or just re-directing the pages is good enough?
Re: New Web site- Re-directing web pages & duplicate pages gassmann56560 6/24/10 11:58 AM
I just thought of something else too. I have template pages that I created using Dreamweaver that controls more than 1 page. For instance, the main_layout.cfm page is a template for the home page here: http://www.ironwoodelectronics.com/index.cfm and for another page here: http://www.ironwoodelectronics.com/products/sockets/lid_tools_socket_accessories.cfm
    If the canonical code needs to go into the head tags, how can I do this for each of these pages? The head tags are on the template pages and not on each individual page. Is it ok to have 2 head tags on the pages? I was thinking of doing this so I could add in meta keywords and descriptions for each page too. Or do I not need to use meta keywords or descriptions anymore?
Re: New Web site- Re-directing web pages & duplicate pages anonyrat 6/24/10 11:59 AM
When content is duplicate / similar the canonical link will point the bot at the page you would prefer as the authoritative page. Any page which you do not help persuade the choice, the bot will decide (and consider one of them as duplication).

If the javascript points to a new page you probably want the canonical link pointing to the same page otherwise google may well consider it cloaking.

Similarity is based on content (text) not url name nor page layout.
Re: New Web site- Re-directing web pages & duplicate pages anonyrat 6/24/10 12:03 PM
Two head tags on a page does not work.
Re: New Web site- Re-directing web pages & duplicate pages gassmann56560 6/24/10 12:23 PM
How do I put the canonical code or meta tags into the head tags if they are on the template pages then? When I open the index.cfm page, the head tags are locked and I cannot add anything to them because they are part of the template page. Or should I not worry about the canonical code or meta tags?
Re: New Web site- Re-directing web pages & duplicate pages gassmann56560 6/24/10 2:20 PM
I did figure out how to add the canonical code and meta tags to my pages. Do I put the canonical code only on my old pages and direct the bot to the new pages with the canonical code?
Re: New Web site- Re-directing web pages & duplicate pages anonyrat 6/24/10 3:28 PM
That would work, anything helps.
Re: New Web site- Re-directing web pages & duplicate pages gassmann56560 6/24/10 3:32 PM
Do we need to add meta tags such as the description and keywords to our pages anymore? Or does Google not look at meta tags anymore? Are they irrelevant? If not, do they help to get us listed higher at all or not?
Re: New Web site- Re-directing web pages & duplicate pages anonyrat 6/24/10 5:13 PM
Described in many other posts here on the forum and in the help articles, try searching for each as a topic. The only one that appears to be obviously archaic is the keyword meta tag.
Re: New Web site- Re-directing web pages & duplicate pages opt_golfer 6/24/10 5:38 PM

Re: New Web site- Re-directing web pages & duplicate pages JohnMu 6/25/10 5:19 AM
Hi gassmann56560 and welcome to the forum!

I would strongly recommend not using meta refresh-type or JavaScript redirects like that if you have changed your URLs. Instead of using those kinds of redirects, try to have your server do a normal 301 redirect. Search engines might recognize the JavaScript or meta refresh-type redirects, but that's not something I would count on -- a clear 301 redirect is always much better.

Cheers
John