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"Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit.

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"Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. speedbunny 8/20/10 5:42 PM
I have read the FAQs and checked for similar issues: YES / NO
My site's URL (web address) is:
Description (including timeline of any changes made):2010-08-21

I was 2nd in the search results until this change was implemented today - now my site is 9th on the page after 8 pages from my main competitor & the 'first result' with all his sitelinks.  

Surely no one searches to get 8 pages from the same website?  Please set an upper limit on the results displayed from one domain or make it more obvious that the pages are all from the same website in the search results with indentation or whatever.

Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. Chibcha 8/20/10 6:40 PM
Hi

You are a little in the wrong place but doubt you will be on your own, so will move this to chit chat. That's just so everyone can perhaps stick too the same post, not a demotion.

Doubt Google would wish to show so many results unless there was a good reason/quite specific query. Best way to help them look at the change and help yourself is post more details, at least the search, perhaps the search URL, even a link to a screenshot if you wish. Your feedback will be seen.
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. speedbunny 8/20/10 7:13 PM
Thank you Chibcha...  I deliberately didn't give site details - wouldn't be right for me to be seen whining (I do try to keep things professional!)... but I don't mind posting a screenshot.

You'll see my website position and my competitor highlighted.  Yes, they're a big company & I'm a one person operation... but this is pretty much how I make my living =)  As 40% of my traffic is from Google, I am really quite worried about this.

I hope I've done the right thing to attach a screen shot...

Many thanks - Sarah
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. speedbunny 8/20/10 7:16 PM
Hmm don't see the screenshot - this is the URL for the screenshot:
http://bit.ly/bOB5l6

to add insult to injury, when I've tried to run a Google Adwords campaign myself, they always say my site isn't relevant to the keywords shown in the screenshot...
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. squibble 8/21/10 12:25 AM
You think people putting owners direct into the search are looking for you ?
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. speedbunny 8/21/10 3:21 AM
I would assume so, squibble - it's the section we used to advertise our properties abroad in Exchange & Mart for years prior to the internet, and a popular keyword for anyone who is looking to rent from an owner in a holiday location. (our family have been doing business under that name since 1986 - we just didn't get the domain name).

By the way, I deliberately left the keywords out of my post for privacy reasons, if you could edit your post it would be appreciated.
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. squibble 8/21/10 3:26 AM
I might think not. You registered your domain some years after the brand search and doubt that users would actively seek a site with little/no value content of originality.
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. Pelagic 8/21/10 3:27 AM
 
This is an experiemental thing by Google, to boost relevancy for brand names.
 
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. squibble 8/21/10 3:34 AM

I submit it is a good move if it stops sites from capitalizing for others brands without good reason. Time to build some relevancy of one's own..

Showing more results from a domain
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2010/08/showing-more-results-from-domain.html

Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. speedbunny 8/21/10 3:35 AM
Squibble, the term is not a brand -  neither of us were able to register the trade mark with the Intellectual Property Office in the UK as they class it as a generic term.  The site has over 100 destination guides that I wrote myself, so there is a lot of unique content there.

I'm not sure when my brother originally registered the website, he died in February so I can't check with him, but we have adverts in newspapers and trade magazines going back to when I was 12 years old. I'd assume the domain must be over 5 years old though.
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. Pelagic 8/21/10 3:36 AM
 
Yes good move, this is a good example, why.
 
That site has no contact details whatsoever !
 
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. speedbunny 8/21/10 3:45 AM
The contact details are clearly displayed on the website - and there's a Live Help service Mon-Fri 9am-5pm....
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. squibble 8/21/10 3:46 AM

Trademark or not, it is a branded search.

If you have 100 unique 'destination guides' then you will be found by your valuable content as I doubt that users search 'owners direct' to read them.

Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. Pelagic 8/21/10 3:49 AM
 
 
 
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. Pelagic 8/21/10 3:51 AM
 
Contact details
 
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. Pelagic 8/21/10 3:51 AM
 
Oh you do have an address at the bottom of your privacy policy page !
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. speedbunny 8/21/10 3:56 AM
www.fuerteventura.uk.com :-)  That's where my bro used to live... he had a property management company out there & a lot of apartments - now run by his partner.  I think she owns that domain now, although maybe I inherited it... not sure.

Ok, driving instructor is here - here we go...
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. Pelagic 8/21/10 4:00 AM
 
"The contact details are clearly displayed on the website - and there's a Live Help service Mon-Fri 9am-5pm"
"& I operate out of Regeringsgatan in Stockholm now =)  Contact details well out of date"
 
Incorrect address, no postcode, no telephone number ???
 
 
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. Pelagic 8/21/10 4:04 AM
"www fuerteventura.uk.com :-)  That's where my bro used to live... he had a property management company out there & a lot of apartments - now run by his partner.  I think she owns that domain now, although maybe I inherited it... not sure."

Strange that, you both have the same affiliate Ids, amongst many other things;
 
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. speedbunny 8/21/10 7:04 AM
Hi Pelagic - as I said, my brother DIED and I inherited the websites.  Therefore, the websites have the same affiliate IDs.

I came here for help, not to argue with people.  If this is the kind of community Google run, I want no part in it.
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. JohnMu 8/21/10 8:39 AM
Guys, be polite please. That's not the way to greet someone new.

Speedbunny, thanks for posting! While I'm not really familiar with the term that you searched for in your screenshot, I'm happy to pass your feedback on to the team.

If you see other queries where you feel that this change has resulted in worse search results, feel free to post them here. Personally, as a user, I find this change very useful on the whole. As with all other changes that we constantly make in our algorithms, it's good to be able to give the team concrete feedback, in the form of search queries / URLs, where you feel we could be doing a better job.

Cheers
John
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. speedbunny 8/21/10 9:23 AM
thank you John... I suppose maybe I just see things differently to most users - I always thought Sitelinks were the perfect answer, with 'show more results from this website'.  

And although I definitely I think there should be more than one company 'above the fold' for any search result, I also think 4 or 5 more results - when clearly indented to show they are from the same company - would be a fantastic feature.  

To be fair, my own drop in ranking is what's made me dislike the feature without giving it a fair trial - and in balance, one of my other sites has shot to first in Google UK & US and now occupies position 1-4 for a certain keyword.... but even I think that's a little unfair to the competition, as Google does not clearly indicate all four results are from my site.

As a user - I want a clear choice of links, so I'm not returning to results page, then clicking on the next result without realising they are the same websites.  As a webmater - oh, I just want the number one spot... of course...

So I guess it's all about the indentation for me!
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. Pelagic 8/21/10 9:32 AM
Speedbunny, full apology from me for anything I said that may have caused you any upset relating to your brothers death.
 
From the outset, it appears that this is not a legitamite business, I for one am not going to comment any further on that, however there are a few points above that are valid and which you may find usefull. 
 
Please note that we are in no way affiliated to Google and our comments however taken should not reflect on the forum community or on Google whatsoever.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. Pelagic 8/21/10 9:34 AM
"As a webmater - oh, I just want the number one spot... of course..."
 
As we all do !  LOL
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. speedbunny 8/21/10 9:57 AM
Just to make you feel bad, I cried for two hours over what you wrote - I'm not sure you realise how upsetting it is to have your identity and your intentions questioned without any regard for the circumstances surrounding them.  But apology accepted... our mission is the same, after all.  

Whether you consider the business legimate or not, that's your choice - the fact of the matter is it's how I earn a living since my brother died, and I became the one who has to look after my parents out in Sweden.  Yes, we have a lot of affilliate links, but every property he owned and managed is rented through the system we have on the website & there's a lot of unique content created by the family (which does drive traffic to us).  When you're in the holiday rental trade, you become friends with people in the trade, so in total, I believe it's 120 properties on the website that are either owned or managed by people he knew personally, and who I'm slowly getting to know.

We actually have a pretty good relationship with the competitors, if ever someone mistakenly enquires with them about one of our properties they let us know, and vice versa.  This was never about them vs us, it was about Google's new feature, a case study on how it had affected one random website in 24 hours, and possible improvements for both user and webmaster.

Topic seems back on track now, at least.  Takes a big person to apologise, Pelagic.
Re: "Showing more results from a domain" - please set upper limit. Pelagic 8/21/10 10:35 AM
 
Thanks for that Speedbunny, Yes I did feel bad, after I found out that it was actually true.
 
Its not what I considered previously that matters, your online success is based upon the perception users get when they visit your site(s), trust me it looks dodgy in its present form, so there are plenty of things that could be improved, which will provide a significantly higher level of trust to users in your site(s) and make it a success.
 
"This was never about them vs us, it was about Google's new feature"
 
Typically, well almost always, that isnt the case, the perception given by your site reinforced this, but obviously not in this case due to the circumstances, so again sorry for any upset.
 
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