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Link Pruning or Link Building?

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Link Pruning or Link Building? businesstrader 5/30/12 4:00 AM
So I received the email below from Google today in regards to my reconsideration request. I'm confused! Directories are inorganic? I was bombed with inorganic links early April and then got smashed by Penguin. I have been working my but off removing links and reduced them significantly.
 
So, should I continue pain stakingly removing, or build links? And how do I get quality links?
 
I welcome all suggestions to help my site regain some decent rankings again.
 
Regards
 
Pete 
 
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We have received your updates and completed our investigation into your site's backlinks. At this time we are still seeing a significant number of inorganic links to this site and have taken action to prevent them from artificially inflating your site's ranking. Please note that we try to be granular in our actions as we focus on the inorganic links to your site, preserving organic recommendations.
 
Below you can find examples of backlinks that still violate our guidelines:
 
At this time, we have determined that no further actions are required on our end. We will need to see more progress on the removal of the inorganic links before any actions on those links are revoked.
 
Regardless of who created the links, in order to protect the quality of our search results, we have taken action to reduce the trust of inorganic links to your site. Webspam techniques such as link schemes attempt to trick our systems into ranking sites higher than they should, which can affect our ability to provide high-quality search results to our users. We take these webspam violations seriously.
 
In the meantime, we recommend that you continue to work on cleaning up the inorganic links to your site. As a reminder, if you’d like more specific advice for your site, consider posting in our Webmaster Help Forum, where a community of webmasters may be able to help you. You can post to the Forum by visiting the following link: http://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/forum/#!forum/webmasters.

Sincerely,
The Google Search Quality Team
Re: Link Pruning or Link Building? tim2223 5/30/12 7:42 AM
Regardless of who created the links, in order to protect the quality of our search results, we have taken action to reduce the trust of inorganic links to your site 

So that does it then, negative SEO is alive and well, the way to succeed now is to bring competitors down by pointing spammy links at their sites. 
Re: Link Pruning or Link Building? sabhandari 5/30/12 8:03 AM
hey businesstrader,

did you also receive the unnatural links mail from google webmasters?
Re: Link Pruning or Link Building? fathom 5/30/12 8:20 AM

On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:00:56 AM UTC-4, businesstrader wrote:
I was bombed with inorganic links early April and then got smashed by Penguin.
 
LOL Everybody lies! 
 
You got bombed by links in April this year?
Re: Link Pruning or Link Building? businesstrader 5/30/12 2:52 PM
Absolutely!
Re: Link Pruning or Link Building? businesstrader 5/30/12 3:05 PM
tim2223 - Absolutely! Looks like we can only hope for a link blocking tool in Webmaster Tools
 
sabhanari - Yes I received the email notification
 
fathom - I got bombed in mid March actually.....Sorry, my mistake, but yes, I got bombed! Couldn't have been clearer in my post above. You obviously believe that everyone is honest and no one would practice such techniques, or? Check out the attached jpg. Look forward to your reply!
 
 
Re: Link Pruning or Link Building? 888wolfdog888 5/30/12 3:19 PM
I've been aching to get someone to try this out. Have a look at this:

http://www.javascriptkit.com/howto/htaccess14.shtml

Im really quite interested to know if breaking the links could actually be an effective means of blocking the link juice.

There is further code for the .htaccess code that can be used to update Google of the situation. I cant find that in a hurry but it was dredged up on this forum by another user who found it when attempting to block requests from dodgy urls.

My theory is 'break the links' so they go down as being bad, not go about trying to remove them which is just silly.

Worth a try if you've got nothing to loose maybe....


Re: Link Pruning or Link Building? fathom 5/30/12 3:31 PM

On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 6:05:58 PM UTC-4, businesstrader wrote:
fathom - I got bombed in mid March actually.....Sorry, my mistake, but yes, I got bombed! Couldn't have been clearer in my post above. You obviously believe that everyone is honest and no one would practice such techniques, or? Check out the attached jpg. Look forward to your reply!
 
I reviewed the links Google noted and noted an added date of 2009 in a couple. Connnecting the dots is what I mean with my quote "everybody lies".
 
It is a broad reference that suggests no one think of themselves as a spammer. They couldn't have possibly done anything negative to their own domain and they search for other plausible explanations.
 
The directories that were noted are not natural reviews... they are unnatural link anchors... so I would start there.    
Re: Link Pruning or Link Building? businesstrader 5/30/12 3:48 PM
I'm not saying that my link profile was perfect, no ones is, but clearly I had an influx of links in mid March. I worked very hard to reduce these links, but I am now thinking that Google simply devalues them and that I simply need high quality links to out weight the bad links. And like you said, more natural anchors, etc.
Re: Link Pruning or Link Building? fathom 5/30/12 3:59 PM

On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 6:48:35 PM UTC-4, businesstrader wrote:

but I am now thinking that Google simply devalues them and that I simply need high quality links to out weight the bad links. And like you said, more natural anchors, etc.

YES Absolutely correct!
 
Take a look at wikipedia and their internal linking practices to add/include the unnatural links (if off site) towards a page(s).
 
It's merely navigation then.
Re: Link Pruning or Link Building? True Answers No Hypocrisy 5/30/12 6:52 PM
Regardless of who created the links 

That is all we need to know :) They are simply saying use adwords.
Re: Link Pruning or Link Building? businesstrader 5/30/12 7:47 PM
Yes I have to agree that this part of the email was concerning.
Re: Link Pruning or Link Building? Webnauts 6/4/12 3:56 PM
Those .htaccess rules are no redirects. They are referrals.

So to clarify, you cannot block the juice. As long the link is alive and is not attributed with "nofollow" you cannot do anything against it.
Re: Link Pruning or Link Building? Webnauts 6/4/12 4:03 PM
I checked your link profile and looks like you are are back to normal. But I still see that you homepage suffers from an OOP (over optimization penalty) for the keyword "business for sale". You need to try to revise the anchor texts of inbound links which you can probably edit, and the same time you can start building high quality inbound links making sure that you diversify the anchor texts and avoid using the term "business for sale".
Re: Link Pruning or Link Building? Webnauts 6/4/12 4:08 PM
Fanthom, I am following up his case, and I can confirm he was definitely had a very fast growth of links, which the majority were sBlogs. It is interesting to see the link profile history starting in November 2011 until April 2012.

I cannot tell if the OP purchased links from blog networks services himself or if he have assigned an unethical SEO to do link building.
Re: Link Pruning or Link Building? fathom 6/4/12 4:28 PM
I assume you mean fathom (as in six feet of depth) as oppose to fanthom (which I don't have a clue what they is) :-)