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Huge overnight drop in SERP results

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Huge overnight drop in SERP results sinip 3/7/13 2:49 AM
I've read the FAQs and searched the help center. 
My URL is: http://forum.italkmoney.com

Well, this look like epidemic, but my site dropped in rankings two days ago, for instance it was firmly on 2nd page for "hyip forum" now the first mention is on page 30, and not even direct link to my site. Also, I had 1st page for "hyip forum paid post" then it dropped 100 or so positions but looks like it slowly recovers. Interestingly "forex forum" was floating between 140th and 150th result and it is still there. Also some other keywords for which I had first on 2nd page in google.com "get paid to post" for instance, are nowhere to be seen. I didn't do anything white hat, anything black hat, actually I didn't do anything at all these days, so I'm completely baffled regarding the reason for this, unless there's new algorithm change being rolled out as we speak?

Help, anyone ?
Re: Huge overnight drop in SERP results sinip 3/7/13 2:55 AM
Just to add, I've received no warning, no message, nothing, in my Webmaster Tools area.
Re: Huge overnight drop in SERP results Becky Sharpe 3/7/13 3:42 AM
This has just been picked up by the algorithm for excessive ads. All I see when I go to the site is 3 leaderboard ads, then a further 4 ads as I scroll down. Google considers this a very poor user experience, hence your fall in rankings.
Re: Huge overnight drop in SERP results sinip 3/7/13 3:54 AM
OK, thanks for the answer, "funny" thing, though is that it was like that for almost two months, also, this is the site ranking on the first page, 2nd position as I write this for the keyword "forex forum paid post" - http://www.earningpalace.com/forum/get-paid-post/ now you tell me how many ads you see there? If the ads are the sole reason then... you get the point?
Re: Huge overnight drop in SERP results Becky Sharpe 3/7/13 4:01 AM
I certainly take your point, but doubt if it will retain its ranking for long. It takes the algorithm time to find sites that are giving a poor user experience, meanwhile more come along all the time. In high value keyword subjects there is a massive churn of sites.

If you are looking for a long-term future for your site, I suggest you reduce the ads and check on Google's guidance.
Re: Huge overnight drop in SERP results sinip 3/7/13 4:23 AM
Ok if you're confident that the sole reason for the drop is excessive ads, I'll reduce the number of ads above the fold to two, but if you have some time to check it up you'll see that almost all forums in this field are having much more ads above the fold than mine, so I can only hope that the same rules will catch up with them. And if you don't mind please check up this thread http://forum.italkmoney.com/topic/44584-google-fix/ which I've just opened and tell me could that be a reason for the drop in rankings because that's the only thing I've changed since 20th of February when I've introduced that script. The explanation is perfectly plausible, especially in the case of forums where people can land on a thread, read it through and then leave after finding (or not) what they've been looking for. So if the script is somehow violates Google's guidelines, I'll remove it. Thanks in advace.
Re: Huge overnight drop in SERP results Becky Sharpe 3/7/13 4:39 AM
I'm not saying it's the only reason, but it is certainly a contributory factor.

What does the script do - I don't have time to watch the video. If it makes automated queries to Google then that is in breach of Google's TOS.
Re: Huge overnight drop in SERP results sinip 3/7/13 4:49 AM
Excerpt from the video:

"We will use Google's own Event Tracking API to create the Javascript... ...the code will tell Google that a user is still on the site every 10 seconds. So a guy comes to your site and starts reading a post. Every ten seconds the script will tell Google that the user is still on your site...

So, that is an "automated query" then and it should be removed?
Re: Huge overnight drop in SERP results Becky Sharpe 3/7/13 5:06 AM
Yep, very naughty. Google won't like that one little bit :(
Re: Huge overnight drop in SERP results sinip 3/7/13 5:15 AM
Thanks, script removed, lets see what happens in next days, few weeks. Though, IMHO the guy is perfectly right when it comes to way how Google calculates/tracks bounce rate and time on site...
Re: Huge overnight drop in SERP results Becky Sharpe 3/7/13 5:20 AM
There's another debate on how Google uses the bounce metric, but we'll leave that for now ;)