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So I managed to get a stable 40kbps dialup connection over Google Voice...

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So I managed to get a stable 40kbps dialup connection over Google Voice... Skunkworks 12/31/09 6:33 PM

Of course 40kbps isn't (quite) as fast as dialup gets, and the pingtime to a server near the dialup provider was 681ms, but none the less it did work. And for my test I browsed (a bit slowly) for a good 45 minutes before switching back to DSL. The connection didn't drop out as much as once.

I was using a V92 modem and Verizon landline located in Maryland to call my Google voice number located in Washington DC, which I then used to dial out to a fastfreedialup.com access number in Delaware.

I was using Windows XP's dialer.

At the time I had my google voice number set to do not disturb, so the timing would be different in the following steps if you had forwarding phone enabled.

I set up google voice as a calling card and then for long distance calls entered the following steps:
-Dial access number
-Wait 8 seconds
-Dial *
-Dial PIN
-Wait 2 seconds
-Dial 2
-Wait 2 seconds
-Dial the area code and number
-Press #

I won't get into how impractical dialup is for flash-based sites, or sites with a lot of graphics, let alone video or music. But I will say if you need to check your email on the road or browse Wikipedia a bit, it's worth it. Text-only sites (the few that still exist) are lightning fast at 40k, and although 680ms is somewhat laggy for IM or IRC, it is easily workable.

I've heard people having limited success with faxing, but considering I kept a 40kbps dialup connection for the better part of an hour, I'd test it out with faxes before taking google's "it doesn't support fax" at face value.

Re: So I managed to get a stable 40kbps dialup connection over Google Voice... Skunkworks 1/2/10 12:07 PM
Update: tried it out a few more times, and I am consistantly able to sustain dialup connections in the high 30s to low 40s kbps for hours. Faxing also seems to be working great.
 
Perhaps GV has changed/done away with the compression on calls?
 
I'd call it reliable enough to use in place of a fax/data specific calling card.
Re: So I managed to get a stable 40kbps dialup connection over Google Voice... jason.roysdon 1/30/10 1:10 AM
They probably added detection for data/fax connections and are not compressing those.
Re: So I managed to get a stable 40kbps dialup connection over Google Voice... John Oliver 1/30/10 7:32 AM
Okay, I'll admit, I only have vaguely have a clue of how this works. Does this cost any money on a plan? I just recently got Google Voice, but is it totally and completely free? Also, you said that this could be used on the road, but how can you place a call without having some kind of usb phone device, or an internet connection.
Re: So I managed to get a stable 40kbps dialup connection over Google Voice... Skunkworks 1/30/10 12:00 PM
@GuyNoir
As you can see from my instructions on how to use dialup over google voice, you can place calls without an internet connection by dialing your number and entering your PIN from voicemail.
 
The only cost involved in using google voice in this fashion is the cost of placing a call to your google voice number. There would be no additional charges for calling "long distance" with, or using dialup over your google voice number.
Re: So I managed to get a stable 40kbps dialup connection over Google Voice... John Oliver 1/30/10 3:39 PM
But how can you dial your number on your laptop without some sort of connection? Don't you need a modem of some sort?
Re: So I managed to get a stable 40kbps dialup connection over Google Voice... Skunkworks 2/1/10 3:41 PM
Of course you need a modem to use dialup!
 
But no, you don't need an internet connection to place a call with google voice. You can use google voice just like a calling card.
Re: So I managed to get a stable 40kbps dialup connection over Google Voice... ohsosickwithit 2/26/10 10:04 PM
Awesome! I'm glad you got it to work! What exactly did you use as your command as you placed it presumably in the dial-up-phone-number text box for setting up the connection. [?] indicates where I would guess some sort of wait command accepted by the windows/linux dial-up connection setup process, would need to be used.

Dial-up phone number: google-voice-phone-number-here[?][*]pin-number-here[?]2[?]fastfreedialup-access-number[#]
User name: Anything?
Password: Anything?

Or did you perhaps not automate this process by just manually calling the numbers, waiting, and press pound with a landline phone and then connecting a second adjoining phone cord into the computer? If you figure out how to do the same idea using a cell phone, instead of a landline (perhaps using windows mobile's "Internet Sharing" application to dial-up through googlevoice and path that internet connection over via USB or even bluetooth to a computer), please let me know!

Thirdly, have you found there to be any privacy issues to be concerned about when using fastfreedialup.com. Obviously I would never check an online bank account or submit a credit card number over that connection, but would you check email or other potentially sensitive and identifying information? Companies can't operate on the principal of free service without income. Where is this profit or sustaining income coming from? (The same question applies to google's voice service. I hear no advertisement when I use my phone.)
Re: So I managed to get a stable 40kbps dialup connection over Google Voice... Skunkworks 2/28/10 11:05 PM
@ohsosickwithit
 
Yes, I did fully automate the process as outlined in my first post. I was using the GUI in WinXP for modem control, and I added the steps from my first post for the calling dialup access number.
 
I've never tried using dialup over a cell phone, although I'd think the dialup speeds would be quite low due to the voice coded used.
 
I have not found any privacy issues with free dialup providers, but I never do log into anything sensitive unless it's on a computer I have full control of anyway. I wouldn't worry about trying online banking with even with a potentially insecure connection, so long as your using strong end to end encryption and have a proper firewall. Most identity theft occurs either via keyloggers or phishing, and not via interception of data, most especially encrypted data.
Re: So I managed to get a stable 40kbps dialup connection over Google Voice... ohsosickwithit 3/7/10 11:39 AM
Ok. I was only worried about the possibility of the ISP (fastfreedialup) reading the information transacted through their web servers. I would presume it would be possible for them to read your email address as you logged in, for example, so that either they, or companies they sell it to, could spam you. Google for example runs scripts in the background of almost every website that track your clicks and the things you read so that they can better advertise to your interests. That is how they make their money. Fastfreedialup on the other hand has no visible/apparent way to advertise to users and pay for the service they offer. Neither does Google Voice; except for the possibility that they may be listening in to conversations for key words to trigger advertisement preferences. This is possible as the phone number is connected to an email account, which is associated with your IP address, and thus tied to your computer and yourself, to which the advertisements on websites can be directed and provide Google's income. (I believe this strategy is used with Gmail anyways.) Even if fastfreedialup steals your email address, it is good to know that you believe the rest of the information is safe.

As a hint to make dialup Internet speeds bearable: Opera 10 can be told uses a compression server that allows less information to be exchanged over the connection and thus simulates a faster Internet connection speed! This is called Opera Turbo and is built right into the browser. Turbo compresses up to 80% — a 63.6% average in November 2009!!! That means your connection speed is simulated at 5x faster!!
Re: So I managed to get a stable 40kbps dialup connection over Google Voice... sothhlartak 6/2/10 9:25 AM
Someone else had this idea?!?

I get 50 kbps, which is really good on dial up.

My only problem is frequent disconnects.