Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites

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Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites Liv 4/2/09 3:45 PM
Hi Everyone,

While the two topics mentioned in the title may seem like very different topics, they are both related as you will soon see. ;-)

One of the most commonly asked questions is, "I've activated/enabled comments, but my visitors can't comment-- help!"

The reason this is such a common question is because the Google Site Help page about comments isn't totally clear:
http://www.google.com/support/sites/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=114859

As you can see, it makes it sound like viewers should be able to comment with this method, but there is a piece of information missing:
http://www.google.com/support/sites/bin/answer.py?answer=90594&ctx=sibling

Only owners and collaborators can use this method.

So, the question remains, how to allow visitors to comment without giving them collaborator status?
Thankfully, there are a number of work-around options!
See the answers below.
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites Liv 4/2/09 3:46 PM
Answers:

See this topic for the list of various ideas:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/sites/thread?tid=6266093a401767d2&hl=en

Raveen's technique is one of the most commonly used:

And, Steegle has similar instructions:
http://www.steegle.com/websites/google-sites-howtos/visitor-comments-google-spreadsheet-form

If you are looking to insert a group/forum/blog, here are some updated instructions:
Original topic:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/sites/thread?tid=149ad09dd49c2fef&hl=en&fid=149ad09dd49c2fef00046699cf146fe3

To add a group, forum or blog into your site:
1. Choose which type of forum or group you would like to use, then create an account/group there.
2. Once you've created your group/forum, take note of the URL / web address.
3. In another window or tab, open and log in to your site (with the Google Account you used to create your site).
4. Create or go to the page where you want your forum to appear.
5. Edit page --> Insert --> more (its at the bottom of the insert list, under the "gadgets" heading) --> search by URL
6. Enter prac's gadget URL (highlight this, copy it, and paste it in):

http://philippe.chappuis.googlepages.com/my_gadgets_gs.xml

7. Copy the URL / web address of your group/forum into the gadget --> adjust the size properties (preview as needed) --> ok --> save page.

You should now have your group/forum/blog inserted in your sites page.

Good luck,
Liv


Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites prac 4/2/09 3:56 PM
Hello
 
You can also just display the feed of the group, using this
 
 
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prac
 
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Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites Liv 4/15/09 2:53 PM
Hi Everyone,

Another update:
To embed / insert / incorporate a group / forum / blog into your site, you can also search for "iframe" in the insert gadget menu in step 5 above (i.e., instead of searching by URL, just enter "iframe" into the gadget search box).

Take care,
Liv
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites Liv 4/17/09 11:14 PM
Hi Everyone,

Another update:
prac has been transferring his gadgets from Google Pages to Google Gadgets.

The new URL for the iframe gadget to insert a group /  forum / blog is:

http://hosting.gmodules.com/ig/gadgets/file/108621208120033273647/my_gadgets_gs.xml

For more information, see prac's website:
http://sites.google.com/site/annuairevin/tips-and-tricks-for-google-sites

Specifically, see this announcement:
http://sites.google.com/site/annuairevin/annonce/news-new-host-gadgets

Take care,
Liv

Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites Liv 4/22/09 5:52 PM
Hi Everyone,

An update to the Documents Form / Spreadsheet technique to allowing visitors to comment:


Raveen's technique is one of the most commonly used:

And, Steegle has similar instructions:
http://www.steegle.com/
websites/google-sites-howtos/visitor-comments-google-spreadsheet-form

prac has a gadget that allows to you insert a specific part of the spreadsheet (i.e., sheet one only) so if you would like to filter/screen the comments before they appear on the site, you can set the filter and only show the filtered / approved comments on your website.

For more information, see reference one below.

Take care,
Liv

Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites Liv 4/30/09 8:18 PM
Hi Everyone,

Another addition:
There have been some recent questions asking for examples of sites with forums.

So, here are a few example sites (see the references below).

Take care,
Liv
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites Liv 5/13/09 11:42 PM
Hi Everyone,

Yet another update...

I was checking the links in the first answer, and saw that one has the wrong link.

The first link (with all the various ideas) should be to this topic:

How way to add a chat/forum to your site?

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/sites/thread?tid=32561bd220ff6a83&hl=en

Take care,
Liv
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites BTG2008 5/18/09 1:30 PM
Can http://disqus.com/, www.js-kit.com or http://www.outbrain.com/ or any other comments/ratings/forum systems be used on google sites?
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites Liv 5/28/09 3:23 PM
Hi Everyone,

Another update:

aiyoung, another Google Site's user noted that there is a new Google Application: Google Web Elements Conversation, which is powered by Friend Connect, but can be inserted with an "iframe" gadget into the page content of Sites.

For more information, links, and instructions see this topic:
google web elements
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/sites/thread?tid=1d50d30a3e92c12a&hl=en

Take care,
Liv
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites JayEm 6/15/09 6:12 PM
See my posting in another thread on using the js-kit comments tool for comments in Google Sites.  It does everything I want, although it may be even better if there were a page setting to allow viewers to comment using the native comment ability.
 
 
John
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites ThomThomas 8/19/09 4:33 PM
I use Google Apps version of Sites as our corporate Intranets for all our different business units.

It doesn't make any sense that Site owners/collaborators can not empower Viewers to make comments. No sense at all.

All the work-arounds, while creative, are pretty much useless on a business scale of 200 or more viewers and 20 or so site owners.

I really just do not understand how hard it would be to allow domain viewers comment access only. Seriously. Such a tiny little feature would transform and multiply the success of our corporate experiment w/ Google Apps. Sites is a super big piece of this.
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites lee_amanda 8/29/09 9:30 AM
try it

http://sites.google.com/site/yanares0009/
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites yel4ucsb 9/13/09 3:14 PM
Hi,

I used the instructions Liv spelled out to put my Google blog into my site, and it works great, except that when I go to "post a comment" it takes me away from my sites page to  my blogger page, so that every time someone wants to post a comment they have to redirect back to the original website. Is there any way to get around this, or did I make a mistake in the instructions?

Thanks for the help!
-LY
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites edwardkhalloran 9/21/09 10:29 AM
Which opption works out to be easiest for the viewer?
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites raj_developer 1/31/10 6:41 AM
I think one of the easiest and best options to receive emails from your visitors is thehttp://aliveprojects.com/apps/contactemailer/ widget.
It can be easily integrated to your web site and highly customizable.

The salient features of the Contact EMailer form are:

  • Email comes directly to your inbox from the senders email address who uses the contact form
  • Customizable Field Labels
  • Customizable Size
  • Customizable Background,Border,Title,Subtitle,Field Caption,Textbox and Button colors
  • Option to display Image Captcha (verification code) feature
  • Configurable in Multiple languagese
  • Right to left language support
  • Absolutely free of cost
There is a long list of sites that uses the ContactEMailer form displayed in the page http://aliveprojects.com/apps/contactemailer/sites-using-contact-emailer-form
They includes Google sites, blogs etc

Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites ThomThomas 3/24/10 5:58 PM
When it comes to a Viewer "Comments" feature, personally, I think it is a failure of imagination on the Google Site's team to overlook such a fundamental feature.

Can anyone name ANY other mainstream platform where you have to have COMPLETE edit permission for the entire page just to natively leave a comment? Such a paradigm is an anathema to the laws of the Web (maybe a little over-the-top on my part - but not by much.)

Google is better than this - and it disappoints me - me a rabid Google Apps fan and tireless supporter in my workplace.
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites Gary1111 5/10/10 11:23 AM
I completely agree. A comments feature that actually works is essential. Why can't Google allow this functionality?
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites Mezmorki 5/26/10 8:32 AM
+1 for comments.
 
Seriously, how difficult can changing ONE permission setting be to allow visitors to access comments?
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites Reinis Bērziņš 6/10/10 6:33 AM
The only satisfactiory gadget for anonymous visitor comments is "wEb mEssAgEs":
Insert>Other Gadgets>"wEb mEssAgEs". In Settings window I change width to 100%, remove border lines and title, as well as write a unique channel name e.g. #AboutMe, even though I am not sure whether this is necessary, it simply works.

Besides I always change layout - Layout>Two Columns (simple) - to display article and comments alongside.

The only drawback is that the comment field is so small, and you cannot see text typed behind the "Send" button (and comment length is also limited).

You can see this gadget in action e.g. in this page: http://www.jgs.lv/pazinojumi/kanopelnit3600latusvienasdienaslaika

For non-anonymous comments you can use "Google Web Elemens: Conversation": http://www.google.com/webelements/social/conversation/
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites gwideman 7/4/10 11:27 PM
OK, I tried Google Conversation Elements, but it wants commenters to sign in with Google Friend Connect, whatever the heck that is.  I just want people who are already logged in to our private google site to be able to comment without doing anything additional. Is this possible? What am I missing?
-- Graham
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites millertimesites 7/26/10 8:27 PM
doesn't Google own Blogger?
Blogger should be able to be incorporated into Google Sites with no work arounds needed
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites gwideman 7/28/10 5:44 PM
Since this thread might well be a useful reference for others seeking comment capability, I'll link in here my critique of Conversation Element for this purpose:

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/sites/thread?tid=09e6c2244927aafc&hl=en

In brief, Conversation Element is NOT a comment facility, it's a worldwide chat facility, filtered only by a "Topic" word or phrase.  It allows internet viewers anywhere to see comments your users have posted, even on a private google site, and even if Conversation Element's "Restrict to your site" setting is set. 

-- Graham
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites IceDogSeven 11/11/10 10:43 PM
@Liv

Thank you so very much for both the detailed instructions as to how to embed a forum/blog in a Google Site, as well as actual examples of sites. Elsewhere you suggested to Edit Page->Insert->more (under Gadgets) and then search on 'iFrame', and this was incredibly helpful too, as it gives a list of gadgets to use to embed other pages/forums/blogs.

Thank you for taking the time to answer our questions; the help is greatly appreciated.

-Ice
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites mariomason 12/18/10 5:21 PM
I totally  agree with IceDogSeven . The insturctions are the best.
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites 10toeverything 1/21/11 9:42 AM
Blogger should be able to be incorporated into Google Sites with no work arounds needed.
How is this possible ? can you explain on this ..I am looking for some thing like this.
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites churchofliberty 3/12/11 11:04 AM
I made my blogger look like my google site and made the link on the left go to a cname off my domain. look how I did it.

http://www.churchofliberty.org

If you get them looking close enough it could look fairly seamless.  wish you could get the navigation from your google site as an obect that you could insert into your blog then this way would be really cooking, let me know what you think.

Best way I could get to do it, the way other people do it has scroll bars and looks trashy.
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites vhazrati 3/22/11 4:38 AM
There is a much better and cleaner way here http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1050653
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites Mori 6/7/11 12:28 PM
Look at the following reference.
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites cgaie 6/17/11 11:54 AM
How to allow collaborator to comment?  Does the collaborator need to sign in?  When I send email to collaborators they can't still comment or upload files

Thanks
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Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites Paul_G 8/31/11 2:18 PM
Just sharing my solution: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/sites/thread?tid=049e449ee1d8b037&hl=en
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites kwakubm 9/30/11 1:00 PM
google's opened up a survey.  if enough people ask for this, perhaps they will oblige:

https://survey.googleratings.com/wix/p3925964.aspx?V1=ND&ke=1&l=9
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites pandama 10/26/11 2:03 AM
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Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites Blessed Geek 2/19/12 4:23 PM
This is really SILLY. This is like doing silly extracurricular acrobatics like bending your arm around behind your head just to scratch your nose.

All Google has to do is allow comments by the general public. Why won't Google? C'mon, Google.
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites *kiana* 5/25/12 8:47 AM
oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites morriss003 12/1/12 7:52 PM
I agree.  It's no wonder that as individuals become more sophisticated at managing their sites, they start looking for another platform.
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites KirksvilleWebDesign 12/1/12 8:27 PM
I can't help but chime in. This is a most wanted feature and has been for some time. I feel like the latest commenting system revamp will lead to more changes. It should be all too easy to enable anyone with a Google Plus account to leave their comment, not just editors and owners. Let's hope this comes down the pipeline soon.
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites Arron Diaz 12/17/12 1:39 PM
I agree. Please Google Listen to all the people here. We need this!
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites philridout 12/17/12 2:43 PM
Star this issue to register your interest and be notified if/when this functionality is added
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Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites Robert Rhyne 11/19/13 1:08 PM
and, with a small collaborative group using an announcement-style page, it would be helpful if the site-level search included the comments...a further weakness in what Sites does allow vis a vis commenting.
Re: Info: How-To Allow Visitors to Comment and How to Insert Group / Forum / Blog into Sites DynV 11/22/13 5:08 PM
This is exactly what I'm looking for. Let me reiterate: anyone with an account can comment.
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