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Somebody is using my email address. PaperBag 7/25/12 4:39 AM
Hello,

For the past year or so, i have been receiving emails from companies, which sombody had signed me upto. I am unfortunate enough to have a Unique Gmail email. However, these emails i receive, always have a DOT in the middle, which i never use.

I looked on the Gmail support, and apparently, the DOT, means nothing, it is also my account, which would explain why i am getting these emails.

However, in the emails from the companies They have had my first name, and sombodies last name, so it is obviously a real person.

A few months ago, i went to create an Apple ID, with my email address, it turns out, this guy has beat me too it (The same guy i had got all the other emails for) - He had created his own Apple ID, with my email, and was happily using it. I contacted Apple, and it turns out he even had his credit card information stored on it, and was buying from itunes. So they obviously disabled it.

From then i keep receiving other emails and so on. However, he has come back once again. Two days ago i received two emails from Xbox Live, one asking me to confirm my account, and another welcoming me into the Xbox Live Gold Prepaid scheme.

So it turns out, he is using my email once again with credit card information. I contacted Microsoft, and got the email banned on all Microsoft services.

My Worry is... What is this guy doing? Does he have any access to my account? Can he see my emails? Has Gmail messed up and he really does have Access to my account but with the Dot in the middle e.g. (Example...@gmail.com)

After i wrote this, i just remembered that this same person, also did this to my PS3 Online account. I obviously signed upto PS3 with my main account, however earlier this year, i got an email from PS3, saying that someone had registered with the Dot in the middle. I contacted Sony, and they banned the account, as they said they do not recognise Dots in the middle as being the same account, but treat them as separate, However, Gmail dont, so i still got all the emails...

Anyone got any advice?

Re: Somebody is using my email address. icantchooseone 7/25/12 4:53 AM
you have done the correct procedures for these companies who dont recognise dots in gmail addresses  but as far as gmail is concerned - gmail ignores dots / no dots  ( capitals / no capitals in email addresses as well as @gmail.com being the same domain as @googlemail.com ) so  its a very common error of someone giving out your email address by mistake and thinking it is theirs


you can reply to the sender to inform them or filter them to trash

you own all variations of youra...@gmail.com and there are no other Gmail accounts that have your account name with / without the dots or capitals / lowercase in them , and no one else has access to your mail

so :

youra...@gmail.com = your.a...@gmail.com = y.o.u.r.a....@gmail.com  = Y.o.U.r...@gmail.com=Y.o.U.r.addreSS@googlemail.com

you can email yourself on all of these to test as well as logging in using any of these variations and YOUR password , also  go to mail settings > accounts > send mail as > add address you own > type that  account name with / without the dots - you will be able to add it without a confirmation mail being sent because you own it

also to prove this log out , click create account , type 5 letters and a dot - it will say " Please use between 6 and 30 characters."


references :


http://gmail-help-blog.blogspot.com/2012/01/getting-someone-elses-mail-dots-issue.html

http://knol.google.com/k/gnutt-halvordsson/getting-someone-elses-mail/tmc0tx1gq52i/6

http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=10313

https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/forum/#!msg/gmail/1kb9GtZ9n2U/algb83gy30sJ

http://blogoscoped.com/forum/603-full.html

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/1-awesome-gmail-tip-you-dont-know-about-seriously/

Here's a post from a year or so ago which is a classic case, where the two account owners actually got together online in the Forum:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!starred/gmail/1Q3uBiaoR-4


Re: Somebody is using my email address. MGSmith.nj 7/25/12 5:30 AM
This is extremely interesting. I've had my email address with gmail (with a dot) for around 10 years. It's never been an issue. Very recently I started receiving emails sent to another gmail address without a dot (same exact letters, just no dot).

example: nam...@gmail.com versus nam...@gmail.com

Clearly gMail is ignoring the dot. The problem is that they've allowed this other user to create a gmail account that theoretically is a conflict with my previously existing account. Now I receive his emails, or at least some of them. It seems that I'm only getting email sent to me by a small group of his colleagues. Not sure if that's because they're the only ones sending to him or if there is some other cause. I certainly hope he's not receiving my emails.

Now the question is what to do about it. Google needs to get involved. I've had this address for 10 years, but I have no idea how long the other user has had his address or if there are other emails he gets that I don't, or if he gets my emails.

Help is needed.

Re: Somebody is using my email address. icantchooseone 7/25/12 6:27 AM
The problem is that they've allowed this other user to create a gmail account that theoretically is a conflict with my previously existing account

im sorry but please re read my reply above twice for good measure
Re: Somebody is using my email address. wdurham 7/25/12 7:32 AM
ICCO is absolutely correct. 

This other user whose mail is turning up in your account is simply mistaken about his email address and is giving out yours instead. He probably wanted yours, but had to add a middle initial or a number suffix, which he has now completely forgotten. As his browser or his email client probably remembers his username and password, he's probably never even typed it again since the day he created the account, so has no idea what it really is when he needs to give it out to other people. 

But you can rest assured that nobody has been allowed to sign up for an email address that differs from yours by merely a dot - because GMail doesn't even count dots as characters. Dots are just a user-defined separator, and are stripped/ignored when looking for username matches.

So Google does not need to get involved, nor do you need to worry. This other guy does not own the address he thinks he owns - you do. He has given it out wrongly to a few colleagues, which is why you get emails into your account from those colleagues. Drop them a polite note and tell them to get their colleague's proper email address from him and stop using yours. 

He is not receiving your email into his account because his address is not the same as yours - his is probably "namenj99" or even "namexnj" - but it is certainly not "namenj". He might try to sign in to your account one day, believing it's his, but he won't know your password so he will not get in. He might even try for a password reset, in which case your recovery address will receive a spurious message from GMail giving you a link to reset your own password! You can safely ignore that.

If you still aren't convinced, try sending an email to "his" address, the one without the dot.  
Re: Somebody is using my email address. icantchooseone 7/25/12 7:36 AM
thanks Wendy and Shaheerk
Re: Somebody is using my email address. The C Man ((mobile laureate)elder advisor) 7/25/12 8:03 AM
To clarify in my style:

You have just joined the thousands of others who have somebody who cannot remember their own address handing out yours. They are the same as those who have no idea what their own telephone number is or how they would ever get home if they needed to use a taxi. Google is thinking of handing out vouchers for tattoo artists so they can have their own names tattooed across their foreheads with a "return to" address.


Re: Somebody is using my email address. MGSmith.nj 7/25/12 2:15 PM
After posting this I read some other forum and blog posts on the topic. I think you're correct. The other person is likely giving out an incorrect email address. I've been told it's actually printed on their business card. I passed on the information to the people who have been emailing me, but they may not be able to contact him given the email problem.

Funny enough, after having this email address for 10 years I never knew that the period in the address was completely optional. I will add that this is only for gmail email addresses, not google apps email addresses.

Re: Somebody is using my email address. icantchooseone 7/25/12 2:45 PM
yip - free gmail only - not apps
Re: Somebody is using my email address. The C Man ((mobile laureate)elder advisor) 7/25/12 2:45 PM
Now the tricks.

Moving the dot/s when you send so that replies come to the specific dot address you created allows you to create filters so you can direct these to different Labels.
Re: Somebody is using my email address. Hezey 8/1/12 1:18 PM
ISO could put everyone in lock step.
Re: Somebody is using my email address. CaptainWarner 8/2/12 8:13 AM
Thank You ALL...It sounds so simple after all the aggrevation and wondering what's happening!  It's been bugging me for years.  I am following the advice of "icantchooseone" from this forum. I feel that I am related to many of these "wwebster(s)" and I want to make them aware of this problem by hearing it from their email recipients instead of me.  If "icantchooseone" doesn't mind, I'd like to use his forum advice as an attachment to wwebster(s)intended recipients, as it is they who are in the dark about why they haven't heard replies from their emails. Thanks for all your input, and I hope this inspires those who have the same problem to correct it by "being nice" rather than angry.  Don't forget that the person who's mail is mis-directed "Doesn't Even Know" that this is happening!
WW.
Re: Somebody is using my email address. icantchooseone 8/2/12 8:32 AM
our pleasures

be my guest
Re: Somebody is using my email address. The C Man ((mobile laureate)elder advisor) 8/2/12 9:56 AM
Captain Warner,

We have been giving this advice for years but unfortunately the difficulty is getting the information back to the original mistake makers and convincing companies they should not accept anything as gospel truth without confirmation. The companies are only interested in profits so they grab the money or membership applications and the only way they have of contacting the original sender is by the wrong address.

It needs an internet rule that nothing is acceptable without confirmation.
Re: Somebody is using my email address. needHelper 8/11/12 2:25 PM
Hello, based on your reply I am assuming you are trying to imply that its a typo from the other person while giving others their username.

However, I have more trouble news i.e. that person has created a facebook account with "." ommitted. I received an email to confirm the creation of facebook account and I ignored it. Then, I received another email that you account has been confirmed and facebook account is created. Now, I receive facebook contact addition notifications. I went ahead to check if this account exists on facebook. So, I did a forgot my password step at facebook without dot username and I received an email for resetting the password. This a really big issue that GOOGLE team need to take a look at.

Thanks!

Re: Somebody is using my email address. icantchooseone 8/11/12 2:39 PM
facebook dont require email verification to open accounts

So, I did a forgot my password step at facebook without dot username and I received an email for resetting the password.

my explanation above covers that issue

this should help


Fake profiles (timelines) created to imitate real people (impostor accounts) are not allowed on Facebook.

If someone created an account pretending to be you:
  1. Go to the profile (timeline)
  2. Click the and then select Report/Block
  3. Check the box next to Report this profile (timeline)
  4. Click This person is pretending to be someone
  5. Select Me from the drop-down menu
  6. Click Continue
  7. Add a description for why you're reporting the profile (timeline)
  8. Check the box next to I confirm that this report is correct
  9. Click Continue to submit your report


If someone created a Facebook profile (timeline) pretending to be you and you don’t have a Facebook account, please file a report here.

Re: Somebody is using my email address. needHelper 8/11/12 3:37 PM
Thank you! This relieved me a lot.
Re: Somebody is using my email address. icantchooseone 8/11/12 3:39 PM
my pleasure
Re: Somebody is using my email address. bvdreg 8/17/12 4:38 AM
After a fast reading of the last post the summary is, that if you choose gmail you have to set all mail for yourself (every dot in every place).

Google could be intelligent if handle the dots or ignore the latest mail address.
Because e.g. I have set up a mail in 2004 and used for everything, it knows everybody and now I have to understand that I should make a new account for me
like vikt...@gmail.com - which is still may free - and v.ikt...@gmail.com and so on.

I have read the offered:
http://gmail-help-blog.blogspot.hu/2012/01/getting-someone-elses-mail-dots-issue.html
Well, it could be true today, but was not true years ago. I have spoken to the owner of the mail address with dot (a few minutes ago by phone!!) and he is a real person with this mail address (mine with a dot). If any Google expert want to have a proof I can send it. Because it would be suitable to solve this problem. I do not want to loose my address and make a bad looking new one.

Thank you,
Viktor

Re: Somebody is using my email address. The C Man ((mobile laureate)elder advisor) 8/17/12 5:29 AM
bvdreg,

I'm betting you did not get his phone number through gmail so would this be through the the other person's Facebook account or similar? Facebook and some other sites do not wait for registration confirmation.

Gmail does not and has never recognised dots no matter how many years back.

If you think you can provide proof please do so but try for yourself sending to what you think is his address asking him to email you back. You are the one who will receive the email.
Re: Somebody is using my email address. icantchooseone 8/17/12 5:31 AM
Viktor

please ask that person you spoke to -  to log into gmail and  take a screen shot of his email address at top right of his gmail inbox page and post it here so Google can investigate

by the way - log out of your account and log in with using a dot like in the address of that person you spoke to and your password and tell me what happens - do you see that persons emails and contacts ?

also send an email to that address and tell me what happens
Re: Somebody is using my email address. bvdreg 8/17/12 6:08 AM
Hi,

thank you for the feedback. I made spell again the address and they repeated "the" mail with dot. Anyway I have found the phone number in a job offer (because a lot of guys and girls applied for a job by me and I called one asked about the job offer ):

http://www.expressz.hu/allas-munka/allasajanlat/hirdetes-32454570/

Mine is birov...@gmail.com

They have made the address a few weeks ago.

At the evening I may have help with the printscreen, but I have spoken with not an I.T. person.. (I am neither, and do not want to hurt anybody : ) so I am also skeptic about the spelling, but we will see.

I have tried to login with biro.viktor and was able to login in mine so it seems your system works fine and the panic was fast. However I am interested in the call at the evening and the printsrceen. We will see.

Thank you for you till now,
Viktor

Re: Somebody is using my email address. icantchooseone 8/17/12 6:39 AM
many people create new accounts and set their browser to remember them from day 1 so they NEVER know their address

or they create biro.viktor99 and forget the 99

we have NEVER seen a legitimate case of this error EVER . NEVER EVER since gmail opened

look at the date on this >> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21msg/gmail-past-discussions/875tBWfIFwI/3Xb8JZxTxfwJ
Re: Somebody is using my email address. icantchooseone 8/17/12 8:17 AM
here is just one example https://productforums.google.com/d/topic/gmail/BsZSDpreDLo/discussion
Re: Somebody is using my email address. icantchooseone 9/3/12 11:39 AM
also see http://gmail-miscellany.blogspot.com/2012/08/wrong-email-gmail-dots-issue.html
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