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Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier

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Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier 'Geo Mark' 1/14/12 4:31 PM
Hi everyone,

With the most recent update to Google Earth (6.2), we are also finalizing our transition to a new method of delivering Street View imagery in Google Earth. This means, that the older versions of Google Earth (anything before 6.0) will no longer be able to access Street View. We held off making this change until now, when the vast majority of Google Earth users are on 6.0 (or later). This may be an inconvenience for those of you still using earlier verisons; you can update to a recent version of Google Earth here!

Mark
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Mr. Matté 1/14/12 5:20 PM
Boooooooo. :(

Does the Streetview viewing suck in version 6.2 as much as it did in 6.0?
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Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier iba_LF 1/14/12 7:46 PM
I hope some of the functionality of 5.2 is returned to the user in 6.2. It was sorely lacking in 6.0 and still inferior in 6.1.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Leon95 1/15/12 12:20 AM
 I think Google is not too interested in what we want.They dont care that many people prefer street view in Google earth 5.2.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier tombal 1/15/12 2:39 AM
Yep! No more Street View in V5. Horror of horrors!!

You'd have thought that a couple of Google's headcount of 25,000 persons could have been allocated either to ongoing Street View support in V5 or to provide V5 legacy support in V6. I guess the large body of users who HATE V6 Street View with a passion mean nothing to this behemoth.

Dear Mr. Page, 

A classic tenent of the IT industry is "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". V5 Street View was not broke. V6 Street View is a most unworthy successor.

Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Stadia 1/15/12 3:23 AM
I agree. Google seems to make changes because it keeps high-ego job-creators and justifiers busy. This is another example, like having Chrome tabs at the top, of ignoring user input. I have gone back to Firefox as they have enough sense to make the tabs relocatable. I wish MS or other large IT company would do a competitor to GE as I would go to it immediately.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier gs3 1/15/12 3:48 AM
I hate how the new Street View distorts the view unlike V.5. I would think it should not be too difficult to allow the user the choice of staying with the old Street View.  Were the users consulted on their preference?  I reverted to GE V.5 because I hated the new Street View.  Now I am forced to use the new Street View and I still hate it. I suppose it might be like herpes and after some time you get used to the idea of living with it but as of now I just hate the idea.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier iJAM therefore iAM 1/15/12 11:17 PM
yep... the old adage:  "if it ain't broke why fix it"... better yet "DON'T fix it...PLEASE".
Since the IT age began, I have found myself painfully pounding my head & cursing the insanity of so-called "braniacs", who get an "idea" in their craw, and run with it to the ends of the earth.... and the "change" is just plain STUPID (no offense).
I agree with all of you here.  Street view in 5. was killer, easy & effective.   6 SUCKS. Period.  I am so bummed.  Oh well.  Another (great) one bites the dust.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier AnnaDougherty 1/17/12 10:53 AM
Hi Mark, can we please make Street View a viewable layer like in v5.2? The new version is much more inconvenient to use. You have to drag the pegman down to the map to even see where the Street View car has driven, in the old version you could see the Street View outlines at all times. You could also even see a small version of the image (I'm looking to find street furniture in my job). Now we have to drag the peg man on the map, wait for the street to turn blue, then drag the peg man to the street in question to see the photo. Much easier the older way. Please bring it back.
 
Anna
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier 'Geo Mark' 1/17/12 1:06 PM
Hi everyone,

I understand the frustration on this thread, but I want to make sure I am capturing what it is precisely that you all prefer about the old version of Street View in Google Earth. Here's what I've heard on this thread:
  1. In 5.2, you could see the availability of Street View imagery by clicking on the layer -- now you can see where Street View is available by dragging and holding Pegman in the 3D viewer. It sounds like many of you prefer the old way here. 
  2. Many people would like to be able to zoom in Google Earth's Street View as you can in Google Maps.
I know there must be other critiques of the current Street View in Google Earth. If any of you who have commented on this are interested to clarify why exactly you prefer the old Street View, Google is most definitely interested in what users want -- if only every user wanted the same thing! Quite seriously, though -- we are always looking to improve how people view and experience Google Earth and Street View imagery, so anything else you can tell us about why you preferred the old method will help!

Mark 


Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier AnnaDougherty 1/17/12 1:39 PM
Yes! Thank you for replying Mark! I don't know about other people,but for me, the biggest issue with Google Earth 6.1, is that I spend many hours looking at street corners (for light poles) and buildings (to figure out their heights) in areas all across the USA and Canada. In v5.2, that was very easy, because of the Street View overlay layer. I could easily see which areas were mapped (sometimes side streets, dirt roads etc are not mapped), by looking for the camera icons. Now, everytime I want to see if the area is mapped, I need to drag the peg man onto the map. I now have to do this at least 40-50 times a day, just to see if the street has been mapped or not. This takes a lot more time than simply looking for the camera icons on the map. If it was possible to get a Street View KML file showing the blue lines that would help.
 
The next issue is that the camera icons were small thumbnail pictures of the actual image. That was great because sometimes we didn't even need to click on it to open the image, we could already see that there was a lightpole there (or not). If we couldn't get the thumbnails back, then at least the Street View overlay layer would show where the camera has been
 
e.g.
 
 
The final issue is that now we cannot zoom into the picture to get closer detail of the building or light pole in question, scrolling the mouse wheel will move the image onto the next image. It would be much easier (and it would be the same as Google Maps and Google Earth v5.2) if the mouse wheel zoomed into the picture,and the arrow keys on the keyboard moved onto the next image.
 
Thank you for listening to us, I know that there are other frustrated users out there.
 
Best wishes,
Anna
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier 'Geo Mark' 1/17/12 2:53 PM
Thanks, Anna -- this is exactly what we are hoping to learn more about: what you used to be able to do in the old version of Street View that you can no longer do. We definitely appreciate your taking the time to explain.

Incidentally, for those of you who are looking to Zoom in/Zoom out of Street View images, this is can be done using the zoom slider in the right side of the 3D viewer (image below), not the mouse scroll wheel or trackpad (image below).






Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier AnnaDougherty 1/17/12 4:49 PM
Thanks for getting back to Mark, and for the information about the slider. The slider can also be operated by using the right mouse button (rather than the scroll wheel in v5.2). That has removed one user interface problem in 6.2 (for me anyway). Only the Street View coverage issue to solve now :o)
 
Thanks again,
Anna
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier gs3 1/18/12 4:55 AM

There was a similar debacle in the past with the removal of geographical layers of interest to introduce layers which seemed of little interest.  The question is why not test and ask first rather than impose the change and then react to the uproar? Testing first would allow the users to give their opinions, so some things could be kept, others tweaked and others discarded.  And users would not have a feeling of not being considered in the process and only being taken into account after raising a riot.

Most of the points have already been covered by others. I also prefer the layer system than the peg man.  Sometimes just looking into the bubble often had enough info to know whether I wanted to open it or not. And it is simpler to have everything in one menu than to have to look for things in different places. "Show terrain" used to be in the layer menu but was moved away to the options and now it is a pain having to turn it on/off. If every option ends up having its own little hiding place it is confusing for learners and no help to experts.   Sotware developers need to realize most users are beginners who do not want to spend a lot of time and effort learning all the quirks. Simpler is better and just because you can do fancy stuff does not mean it is a good idea.

I think my main dislike with the new Street View  is the way everything is distorted.  I do not care for the psychedelic distortions. I guess it is the effect of trying to interpolate "faux-movement" between two discrete actual views. When I look at a building it is distorted, the street lamps are bent, etc. I strongly dislike this. I do not need to know how Google Earth Street View feels like on psychedelic enhancers. Can I have it so I can snap only between actual views with no distortion?

Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Leon95 1/18/12 5:44 AM
Cameras  were much easier to use than pegman.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier 'Geo Mark' 1/18/12 8:51 AM
Thanks for taking the time here, gs3. You call out a few important points (being able to quickly preview a Street View image and image distortion seem to be the main points). I'll comment briefly on the process here:

One thing that is always a challenge is that not everyone uses every feature in Google Earth in the same way. The folks on this thread seem to have a very specific purposes for using Street View that are unique and interesting, but also very different from the large amount of folks using Google Earth to browse. I think we have a lot to learn about the ways you all are using Street View, and our challenge is always to build a product that fits both the basic needs of a user who is new to Google Earth, as well as folks like you who have more experience and expertise. I hope you'll keep the feedback coming, as I am keeping track of this all.

Mark
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier ninosyl 1/18/12 9:52 AM
Mark, I know you're trying to rationalize the changes made on Street View new function because you are with Google. But using the camera icon was much, much better than this pegman who does NOT work ALL the time. Most of the time, when I drag it to the front of the bird's eyeview of a house, the program flattens the image completely to the ground, like a pancake, so I have to start over again.  
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Leon95 1/18/12 11:22 AM
I like street view cameras becose they are much easier to use.I find pegman more difficult to use because I must drag it to a street to see the photo.In google earth 5.2 all must to do was to click on a camera.Idiscover street view 4 years ago and when the new version appeared i realized how good is the old version.All i can say is Google PLEASE BRING BACK THE OLD VERSION
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier NSandvig 1/18/12 12:20 PM
The lack of the Street View bubble is the reason I downgraded from version 6 back to 5. The bubbles helped to know exactly where you were going, or could go (into a parking lot for example). It was also very convenient being able to zoom with the mouse wheel.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Stadia 1/18/12 12:42 PM
Exactly the same here. Ergonomically the new control interface requires more work for a less useful result. Additionally, the new zoom system is also not intuitive as moving the mouse forward to zoom out is contrary to normal expectation. It feels as though I am pushing the image away, whereas the norm is to move ones own PoV forward into the image by moving the mouse forward. The slider works as expected by moving up to zoom in so it is the reverse effect to holding the right button to zoom. May I suggest making any future modifications to the control interface in consultation with someone who understands the ergonomics of HiD interaction.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier potomous rex 1/18/12 3:37 PM
Hey Mark, Thank you for listening.  I don't have any reason to Google Earth without the old camera. I was wondering why you couldn't have both options in the Layer menu? One for Camera and one for Pegman? And this large amount of folks that your talking about, who are they, and what are they saying about the new version? Are there comments somewhere of "these folks" that like the new version better? I'm new to this group...I didn't even know about it. We have been pulling our hair out for days trying to restore the missing cameras. Please do bring them back!
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier LightFuse/GetAway 1/18/12 4:10 PM
I would also like to express my feeling that the old Street View was much more user friendly, and I prefer using the scroll wheel to zoom in and out on the Street View photo image. Someone in management apparently thought the Pegman interface was a good idea, but it is needlessly complicated. The old system worked fine.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier earplay 1/19/12 9:40 AM
I don't know the advantage to Google for updating the Street View option from cameras to pegman, but for the user this is a profound regression. The new Streetview implementation is ergonomically clumsy and visually distorted. 

Mark, I'm sure users are curious what advantage accrues to Google for the now impaired Streetview function? 
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier 'Geo Mark' 1/19/12 4:46 PM
Hi everyone,

More good feedback today (all of it very appreciated). To summarize some of the recent comments:
  • Many people prefer using scroll wheel to navigate in Street View (LightFuseGetAway)
  • Distortions are a big regression for the newer version of Street View (earplay and others too)
  • You have to wait longer to see if there is Street View imagery immediately available (ninosyl)
I know there is a lot of frustration out there, but the more specific you can all be about what you like or don't like, the more useful and actionable this feedback will be. For instance, saying that the new version of Street View has bad ergonomics is a valid opinion, but it's also a broad opinion. To answer potomous rex, the vast majority of people using Street View in Google Earth have no reason to comment on this thread, because for them Street View works fine. The flip side of that, is that (I'm betting) the folks on this thread use Street View more than the average person, so I do think this is a very important group for us to pay attention to. 

To earplay's comment, it's not so much about advantage to Google; what we are striving for is what is the advantage to the user. The current implementation of Street View (despite the criticisms raised here) is discoverable in a way that is much more similar to Google Maps (via Pegman) -- this means that more people end up finding Street View in Google Earth. For a new user, the layers panel is complex and not super intuitive to navigate. I'm not saying that we've landed at the perfect solution, but we always try to take into account both the perspective of new and novice users as well as those offered on threads like these. Thanks again everyone -- I'm still listening in closely to this thread!

Mark
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier potomous rex 1/19/12 5:03 PM
Thank you Mark, I appreciate your taking time to answer our questions.
Hava good night...
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Eggcleaver 1/20/12 2:10 PM
Google Earth is a fantastic product and I use it every day in my job.  I used to pay for the Google Earth upgraded service before they made it all free.
 
Unfortunately, the changes to Street View in v.6 greatly reduced the program's utility for me.  The smooth scrolling and warping of the images as you move through the scene might be fine for casual users, but those of us who want to see the images in their un-warped form have to find the one spot you can "stand" without distorting the image.  Also, the previous v.5.2 method showed you where the images were taken in the map so you could see how much coverage there was (whether there were photos on both sides of a freeway, for instance) and choose the best location.  The new system ruined that.
 
I actually downgraded to get away from the changes but today, you discontinued Street View for v.5.2 -- it just disappeared of my sidebar!
 
I just installed 6.2 because I can't do without Street View but I really dislike the changes.
 
Please, please, please!  If you're committed to this new street view, at least implement some way for serious users to see the information that was taken away during the "upgrade".  Give me some way to see where the photos are located on the map and jump to them directly.
 
Thanks for a great product and excellent service.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 1/20/12 4:48 PM
 If I need streetview from now on I'll be using maps.google.com

 It is strange that later versions do not support compatibility. F.e. if I saved document into Word 3.0 I am still able to open it into 4.0 5.0 6.2 etc

 I've already installed Google Earth software and it worked. Why should I bother reinstalling something?
In addition graphics after 4.3 are real slow. It means I must buy new PC, Windows 7.0, new video cards. Those are too much expencies for seeing streetview wich always worked fine without all of that unnecessarities.

 P.S. Google Earth works fine. Please stop improving it!
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier GE_BigFan 1/20/12 10:29 PM
I believe the "vast majority" are probably casual users who don't realize what they are missing.

I, like many others here, use Google Earth extensively. I tried the "upgrade" months ago and did not care for it.
So, I "downgraded" back to GE 5.2. Then, suddenly, the other day my street view was gone !
I spent hours trying to figure out where it went and if I had inadvertently changed a setting causing street view to disappear...
Then, thank God, I stumbled across this forum.

I would have a hard time living without GE street view...?
So, I will begrudgingly install a newer version.
And, just put up with this user-unfriendly version that Google is forcing us to accept...yuk !

Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier charity 1/21/12 9:18 AM
yes bring back version 5 with the layers for street view and yellow cameras. 6 is terrible with the pegman.Google Earth needs to listen to what the people want.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 1/21/12 2:35 PM
  Maybe we can have some compromise with Pegman developers:

 "360 Cities" layer still works fine in those legacy versions. Not to offend developers of new cool super 6.0-6.2, maybe it is possible to place streetview into "360 cities" layer?
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier gerardjlaw 1/21/12 3:06 PM
Hi, Mark

It's good to see someone actually listening to all the users' gripes. It almost makes me embarrassed to add to them!

Like a lot of modern technology, Street View seems to have been "improved" to make it easier to use by both removing the controls and having decisions made for us automatically (cf. modern cameras with no speed, aperture or focus controls but a plethora of pre-set scenarios - 'Bright Light', 'Portrait', 'Night Portrait', etc.). Like them, it might have made Street View marginally easier to operate at a very trivial level but it has made it much more difficult to operate with any degree of competence, e.g. the picture is panned and tilted by dragging with the mouse but should I accidentally click without dragging, Street View knows - with a terrible and implacable certainty - that I didn't just make a mistake, I actually wanted to jump to the next image or sometimes the one after that! 

I also venture to suggest that the - quite understandable - desire to give a sense of driving along the road by mixing from one image to the next really doesn't work because everything goes so weird for a second that we lose any sense of visual elision between the images. I actually got a much better sense of driving along a road by looking at the little thumbnails in the bubbles - and it was more useful because I could see a) in both directions, b) down side roads and c) however far I wanted all at the same time.

Sometimes a technology is developed which fairly quickly reaches its zenith so that further modification is actually a retrograde step. Look at Kodachrome - the choice of professionals for over seventy years - or the Tour de France. The bikes may have high-tech alloys and plastics but the shape is pretty well unchanged since the Safety Bicycle of the 19th century.

I don't just appreciate Google Earth for myself. I teach physically handicapped children and I encourage them to use it as a way of exploring a world which is effectively denied to them. They're not street surveyors hunting lamp posts or map-makers checking ground truth on the cheap, they're the ultimate 'leisure users' and they're complaining that they've lost a user-friendly facility.

Thanks again for listening,
Gerry Law
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Leon95 1/22/12 4:27 AM
Mark ,i want to ask you which is the disadvantage if street wiew will remaining in google earh 5.2?I dont think that Google will have something to lose.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier BromsMods 1/22/12 4:40 AM
Mark
 
As a business user who has written database software for wide audiences in the education field I think you need to listen carefully to the comments made by users here - I agree 100% with everything that previous contributors have said.  When developing software it is important to find out what the end users want before implementation.  Clearly the version of Street View offered in the latest version of Google Earth doesn't meet user requirements.
 
Like others I downgraded to version 5.2 after I had installed the cumbersome, slow, resource hungry version 6 with a Street View which was difficult to use and produced distorted images that I found difficult to manipulate.  Having found Street View no longer available in 5.2 I am reluctant to install the latest version again for all the reasons stated in my previous sentence.  Trying to run a business I don't have time to wait for a computer to respond and then fail to provide the information I want, in the format I want it, having previously had access to what I wanted in a previous software version.  Street View in version 5.2 might in your view have been basic but it was easily accessible and funtional, I could see at a glance where street level images existed and they also provided street names alongside, which was useful to me when the street name wasn't actually visible on the satellite image overlay.
 
I agree that Google Earth is a fantastic creation with a wealth of information but that information needs to be easily accessible and what may be seen as progress by a software developer isn't necessarily what the users want!!
 
Please let's have access to a more user friendly version of Street View............
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 1/22/12 11:12 PM
Mark, Thanks for listening, but please REALLY listen.  I agree with all of the preceding posts.  The old way of using streetview was simple and effective and enjoyable.  The new way is too hard to use, not effective, a poor quality viewing product and definitely not enjoyable.  Its so, so frustrating.  Please GO BACK TO THE VERSION OF STREETVIEW THAT USED TO EXIST ON 5.2.1.1588   PLEASE!!!
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier OldBlueEyes 1/23/12 7:26 AM
Look, this is New Coke redux, where a company takes a beloved, established, iconic product and blows it up. And you're asking what? 'What are the specific features of New Coke that are a problem?' C'mon, be real. Just give us back Classic Coke -- it already has all the features built-in.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Earbie 1/23/12 11:12 AM

Mark,

Thank you for your attention to our issues.  I agree with all the previous posts as well.  I would also like to point out, if not already mentioned, that the camera icons displayed the approximate address very quickly and easily. GE is used by my company by multiple users on a daily basis and had gone back to the older version for the reasons mention in the earlier posts.  We were grateful to be able to use the older version, even without support. 

 

Would a version with this function be available for purchase?  I know that my company would certainly consider paying to keep the street view as it was available.  Perhaps, the developers could see by the people willing to invest in this option that it is important to keep it in later versions. 

 

Please understand that we had tried the newer versions for some time before moving back.  We felt that we gave the new versions a chance to show their pros and cons.  For our company, it was not just a resistance to change issue.  It was a lack of functionality issue. 

 

Please give us another option, even if there is a cost associated......

 

Thank you, again.

Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Stendec 1/23/12 2:32 PM
Did Google really have to pull Street View from GE 5.2, Mark? 

There must be many Mac PPC users like me who cannot upgrade beyond Mac OSX 10.4.11, because they MUST support essential Classic Environment applications. 

Street View worked splendidly in GE 5.2.1.1588, which runs fine under Mac OSX 10.4.11. Why not leave it there, even if you prefer to introduce a new version in later releases of GE?
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 1/23/12 2:45 PM
I agree with Stendec.  I'm in the same boat (and its been torpedoed by GE).  But it can be refloated by putting back streetview in 5.2.1.1588
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 1/23/12 3:26 PM
 I also use legacy fast working OS and environment for working with GE. But they won't listen

 They are also working into fast running environments like LINUX and UNIX to create "Pegman". And possibly using simple text redactors like notepad or emacs, not with half-transparent smooth scrolling. But they need to work fast. And we possibly don't. Their work is important (creating of the Pegman). So they need a faster software. And ours is not so important. We can delay while CPU is processing their Pegman. They are creating a dog's food which they'd never want to eat.


 Once again, I cannot use StreetView for 9 days.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier 'Geo Mark' 1/23/12 4:13 PM
Hi BromMods,

Thanks for taking time to add your input to this thread. I have a few clarifying questions, but I understand if you have better things to do with your time than return to this topic!

1) Have you tried downloading and installing the new version of Google Earth to a separate folder on your desktop (by downloading the installer here). This would allow you to not replace Google Earth 5.2. I ask because I'm curious if you find the most recent version of Google EArth to be resource hungry with respect to Street View or in terms of general performance.

2) When you say "difficult to manipulate," are you referring to moving between images, zooming in and out within images, or some other kind of manipulation. Understanding this is pretty important for us -- thanks for clarifying!

3) In terms of displaying Street Names, I'm curious if you find this difficult in the current Street View implementation (when you have the Roads layer enabled). 

Please let me know if any of these questions are a bit confusing -- I know I'm digging into the minutia a bit!

Mark
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier 'Geo Mark' 1/23/12 4:17 PM
Hey BigFan,

Thanks for finding this thread and posting in: I'm really trying to capture the specifics of what people prefer about the old Street View implementation. People on this thread have mentioned several things: being able to preview images in 5.2, image distortion in the new version, being able to quickly determine imagery availability, etc.  

I hope you'll considering clarifying why you prefer the old version!

Mark
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier GeoMark 1/23/12 4:20 PM
One more note to BromMods: 

If you do install Google Earth 6.1 to a folder on your desktop (and not replace 5.2), I should note that your PC will most likely using the new version to open your KML files. You'd still be able to open and use Google Earth 5.2, but I just wanted to give you that heads-up.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier 'Geo Mark' 1/23/12 4:26 PM
This is great input, Gerry. In particular, I am hearing this point about distortion loud and clear. You're right that there is a fine line between a great experience moving between images and a great experience in an image. This is an important point for us to consider, and I can assure you that I am not the only person at Google considering it after reading this thread.

Also, I really like your Tour de France analogy. I am a big fan of cycling's golden age, and the myth of Tullio Campaganolo is one of my favorites. That said, where would we be if he had stopped with the quick release? Okay, I am dorking out now...
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier 'Geo Mark' 1/23/12 4:38 PM
OldBlueEyes,

Okay, I have to hand it to you: this is the analogy of the day. Clearly you're not alone in feeling this way (papa dmitri does too!). We aren't necessarily trying to make New Coke in the first place, so it's important to figure out which parts of the recipe got over-tweaked!

Mark
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier 'Geo Mark' 1/23/12 4:46 PM
Earbie -- thanks for calling out the point about address approximation. Several people have raised the issue of not being able to preview images, but quickly identifying addresses is a separate feature. 

I will definitely be keeping this thread in the loop about any changes that result.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 1/23/12 5:36 PM
If I may answer the same questions you asked of BroMods

2) Difficult to manipulate 
a) by having to drag the pegman icon around to find the camera spots instead of just seeing the cameraspots
b) zooming in and out is more difficult
c) moving between images creates distortions

3) Displaying street names
They can be seen on the roads layer but not with the number, a very important asset that is lost.

PLEASE BRING BACK 5.2.1. 1588
WHY DOESN'T GE WANT TO DO THAT?  WHAT'S THE REASON?
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier MrSensible 1/23/12 8:35 PM
Latest 6.1 seems buggy and slow - seems determined to eschew StreetView altogether - pegman leads to a 'ground-level view' without photographs.

Have now completely uninstalled from all machines except one instance of pre-v6 which, of course, no longer has StreetView..

Will check back in a year to see if Google Earth has regained StreetView in a workable form in a 6+ version.

Meanwhile will advise users to avoid Google Earth - pfffftttt..

:-/


Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier OldBlueEyes 1/24/12 5:00 AM
This is just a guess. Google had a complex system (Earth) with its Street View layer running on one server, and a simpler system albeit with a much larger user base (Maps) running its own Street View feature on another. One day someone from the bean counting department decided this was wasteful and expensive duplication, and said one of the Street View versions would have to do for both systems. I surmise that for technical reasons it was found easier to port the simple system’s Street View to the complex system than the other way around (perhaps the code for the complex system’s Street View was too bound-up with layering, something the simple system doesn’t have). As veteran users will recall, the Pegman thing with the blue streets was an early feature of Google Earth, back in the days when only parts of San Francisco had been photographed. So maybe it was an easy fit to stick that legacy code back in. Mark, you want to confirm or deny that this was an economy move?
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Leon95 1/24/12 6:25 AM
The older version was clear better than the newer.I was able to see the locations where street view is available without draging pegman.In the older street view to see a image all i must to do was to click on that yellow cameras.The older version was faster to use. I use  street wiew since 2008 and i liked it very much.Now i am very disappointed.I have lost a incredible aplication.Why improving something perfect. All i want is the yellow cameras back in Google earth.And i am not the only who want this.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier AnnaDougherty 1/24/12 9:15 AM
Hi all, I spotted that some people have mentioned that dragging the pegman will lead to a ground level view, and not photographs of the street. This only happens when pegman is dragged to an area which does not have Street View photographs. To get around it, first click on pegman (left or right click), then see which streets turn blue. This will prevent the frustration from accidentally going to the ground level view instead of the Street View. Still not as convenient as having the cameras layer, but it should save some frustration.
 
Anna
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier ivluta 1/24/12 10:51 AM
The reason Im still on 5.1.3533.1731 is because it is the only one that I can draw a polygon shape and copy and paste the KML data of the polygon to Zonums Tools Area Calculation tool online.  This handy tool does not function with GE6+.  However, I liked having street view with 5.  Now I have to use GMaps for street view and use GE5 for the Area Calculations.  Unless, there is another option for me to calc the acrage/square footage of the poly I draw in GE6+.  Zonums Tools is free, so it would have to be competative. 
 
Thanks for any input.
 
IV
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 1/24/12 12:34 PM
  Or if You are interested which new countries have a streetview, Drag Pegman on each country. Thats 200 times to know that Belgium has a new streetview layer.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier YoungBrownEyes 1/24/12 1:03 PM
Mark,
Seems to me OldBlueEyes analogy ref Coke is right. Like millions of others I updated to V6 when it became available - and quickly reloaded V5.2 after a few days of frustration. Now it seems we are to be coerced into using V6 or no street view at all, (probably the latter.)
I have the same grievances as most of your contributors:-
  the old camera symbols showed the area covered without having to make tentative zoom-ins to establish this.
  the preview bubble gave a useful preview before opening.
  the camera viewpoint was clear.
  the actual street view could be panned and tilted by dragging the mouse, and zoomed by the scroll wheel.
  you could move to nearby viewpoints simply by clicking the symbol in the street view, so that progress could be made rapidly with just minimal use of the mouse without having to resort to navigation controls and shift keys.
  and most importantly, the view was coherent. The warped, distorted views produced by the V6 software struggling to try to splice images from descretely different viewpoints are an abomination!

Finally, what was the point of the change?  The millions of us that liked the intuitive functionality and convenience of V5 were happy, and the "view in Google Maps" option allowed those who wanted it to have the pegman scenario.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 1/24/12 2:28 PM
I notice in the news just now that Googles stock has just dropped 10%!!  Its big financial news.
See Mark, we told you that GE should put back Streetview 5.2.1 1588  :-)
The people (and now the markets) have spoken
Big unresponsive companies should listen
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier BromsMods 1/25/12 2:59 AM
Hi Mark
 
Thanks for following up my comments.  In haste, my response to your questions:
 
(1) No, haven't had time to experiment, I'm afraid.  And this is part of the problem for many users - having to find additional time to overcome issues thrown up by "progress" just isn't possible in many cases.  It doesn't matter what software you use, those products you love and become familiar with, having learnt your way around them for your own purposes, it becomes extremely difficult to come to terms with changes that take you out of your comfort zone and require a new learning process. It's also frustrating when features you used, became familiar with and used intensively are no longer there!
 
(2) Two aspects, really.  Zooming in and out on the new version distorts the aerial view more so than the older version.  I liked the position of the cameras on the old version as at least then I knew where photos were available and there was (in general) an indication of house numbers.  With the new version it's like trying to find your way without knowing exactly where you are in the street.
 
(3) I often try to find locations using postcodes - once Google Earth zooms to that postcode, although names of streets around are displayed, I frequently find that the name of street I want to locate isn't shown.  I need to verify this as the postcode location sometimes isn't very accurate.  Again, as I zoom to Street View on the old version the camera locations gave valuable information to find the correct building more easily - now there doesn't seem to be anything.
 
Hope this helps move things forward a little!!
 
Regards
 
John
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Leon95 1/25/12 4:39 AM
I think the finish of street view era  is coming.Google make a real big mistake removing yellow cameras

Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Stendec 1/25/12 7:58 AM
I've just learned that Street View has disappeared from all versions of Google Earth that can be run on Mac Power PCs, and not just from the version that can be used with 10.4.11 (the last OSX that supports the Classic environment).

That seems incredible! There may not be very many users like me who must still support the Classic environment, but there must be thousands of Power PC users in the world who have a big investment in these computers, in their software, and in peripherals that cannot be used with the latest Intel-based Macs (which don't have Firewire 400, for example). 

I can understand that Google want to concentrate new developments on systems for the latest computers. But why deprive the larger pool of all Power PC users by removing Street View from GE 5.2? There are plenty of examples of software houses that continue to make their legacy products available long after new versions have been introduced.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 1/25/12 9:39 AM
  Switching back StreetView layer onto 5.1 is 5 minutes
Answering posts with "We understand You", "We care", "Thank You for Your post" is 50 minutes

WORDS vs REAL ATTITUDE
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Tony2468 1/25/12 10:04 AM
GEO Mark,
 
I am glad I found this thread.  I am SUPER bummed that google has removed street view from GE 5 versions.  Honestly, GE 5 was perfect.  The navigation in GE 6 is abhorent, I'm sorry to say.  I know it's a free product, and we all appreciate you guys putting it out there, but people depend on the software now.  I use GE 5 daily for my business (real estate) and the mouse-guided navigation in GE 5 was fantastic.  Street View made it a killer-app.  Now we're forced to use 6, and the tilting, zooming, transistioning into street view, etc., is horrible.  WHy mess with a great thing??  Please reactivate GE 5's street view.  This is killing me.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Rangemaster 1/25/12 11:29 AM
Isn't there anyone out there from Google who read these postings and care even a little bit about us users?
Discontinuing street view in 5.X versions pretty well sucks!  There are a whole lot of us out there who don't like 6.X and I'm one of them.  It's a lousy upgrade and your street view doesn't work worth a damn compared to the previous versions.
5.X versions work just fine and I loved the street view function just as it was.
Always somebody screwing up the works.  Just like a lot of other Google stuff, you've managed to take a good thing and ruin it.
Thanks a lot... for nothing.  I hope you guys are happy, because we aren't.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Rangemaster 1/25/12 11:56 AM
Ok, enough of the temper tantrum... sorry about that.
It's just that with V5, I could go back to a lot of the places I used to live, even when I was a small kid and visit them.  I could very easily click on a location in street view and see what they look like today.  With V6, it's very difficult to see and scan without terrible distortion.  I spend a LOT of time on GE, V5 and the loss of street view is a terrible disappointment.  I've tried V6 and I don't like it at all.  After a very short time, I deleted GE completely and reinstalled V5.
Discontinuing street view in V5, I think (and according to a large number of my fellow posters) was a great mistake and is not making GE any friends.
You have (had) a great product and I hate to see it degraded just to be changing what doesn't need to be changed.  Not all change is good.  Sometimes you just have to leave a good thing alone and let it work.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 1/25/12 12:06 PM
  As far as I understand this forum belongs to the promoters of version6.0 . Writing something here is useless. If You want freedom from Pegman You should officially e-mail Google about this. Choose the correct person to refer to. Make sure that Your e-mail won't be readressed back to "6.0 Team" to take handle of it)
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Leon95 1/25/12 12:24 PM
We are losing our time here.If somebody really listen us street view was already back in Google earth 5.2 I think over 80 %of people who use street view like more yellow cameras than pegman.Is here a person who really cares about our problem?I dont think so
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 1/25/12 12:33 PM
- More and more people install our new 6.0. Even those who didn't like now started using it
- How did You avhieve such amazing result?
- That's our secret, Sir!
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier harrykrak 1/25/12 5:57 PM
I want a visible layer so I know where street view is available, WITHOUT DRAGGING THE PEGMAN.
I want icons so I know exactly where the picture was taken from, not a seamless line. This is probably the biggest issue I have with the new interface
You have brought back the higher definition images, but I want to use the mouse wheel to zoom, not the slider. I use the mouse pointer to move around, the wheel to zoom. That makes sense, it is what every single other application does. The wheel zooms.
 When I move up a street, with the wheel, the images sheer leaving lots of ugly angles. These go away when I click on the arrowed direction icon. I do not want to have to any extra clicking every time I move, I just want to be taken to the next image. 
Ground Level view only works if the vast majority of buildings have a 3d structure. This is just not happening outside of the US. Take a look at London, the capital city of The Empire, even that does not have a good coverage of buildings. The trees option is pretty pointless everywhere.
Bring back the thumbnail image with the view square inside it. That made looking around much easier than using just the mouse. I know you can flick the image with 6, but it is way to easy to shoot up the street when you are just trying to get a 360.

All these new changes look like they were done to suit a touch screen interface. When using a keyboard and mouse has been made illegal and tablet ownership is compulsory, then you can use your silly tricks. Remember how good the aero interface was in windows vista? No, neither does anybody else.

Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier ivluta 1/26/12 6:58 AM
Bring back Street View layer in GEv5.............
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Vigs 1/26/12 7:36 AM
Please, return Street View for V5. It was much more convenient.
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Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier harrykrak 1/26/12 11:35 AM
Why are you making google earth identical to google maps? They are two different products. If you want them to be absolutely identical, get rid of one. Otherwise leave maps to its browser interface for use by tablets, and earth with a grown up interface with mouse and keyboard.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier eccles32 1/26/12 12:05 PM
Quite simply version 5.2 was quicker and the Street View was much clearer and easier to use!!
 
Please, please please can we have it back?
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 1/26/12 12:40 PM
I agree absolutely.  Bring it back.  I used to spend sometimes hours a day on GE for recreation and business.  Now I don't go on GE at all because Streetview is gone from the version I can access easily.  I tried the earliest version of 6 and couldn't get streetview to work well at all.  (MY computer won't allow the later versions) I dragged the little guy and got blue areas and  didn't get much further.  After hours (days actually) trying to get it to work, I'd run into the same problems everyone is talking about.  I asked WHY DON'T YOU BRING IT BACK?? -WHAT'S THE REASON?? and have not received an answer.  The streetview forum seems to be run by people who don't want to bring it back, as someone else suggested.  Does anyone have the phone # or e-mail address or URL for the GE higher-ups who might have some influence over the Streetview department?
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier shawniganrower 1/26/12 7:59 PM
oh gee ... I'm another who reverted back to 5.2 because the new Street View was just plain awful compared to the old Street View.  Distorted views, , didn't allow a good zoom into an area, and was SLOW.  Not at all useful if one wished to study an area or plan a trip to a specific spot and to see that spot.  Signs weren't legible because of the distortion, so street names couldn't be read.
 
This is very upsetting ... when I went to use Google Earth today and no Street View, and now I see this.  I hated the new Street View.  Totally useless.  So will likely not upgrade anyway because it was no longer a useful feature to me in the new model.
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Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier YoungBrownEyes 1/27/12 4:54 AM
Seems to me Mark has done a good job as a Google Community Manager. Closing the previous thread and opening this one two weeks ago makes it less obvious just how long standing and wide spread the dissatisfaction was and is. His opening post (see below,) is clear that the decision is made and that they are "finalising the transition." His last sentence is particularly dissingenuous as probably everyone in this forum has tried a recent version and that is why they contributed to this forum in the first place!

So we can vent our frustration her for a little longer but Google isn't listening. Anyone got any suggestions for alternative software?

On Sunday, 15 January 2012 00:31:42 UTC, Geo Mark wrote:
Hi everyone,

With the most recent update to Google Earth (6.2), we are also finalizing our transition to a new method of delivering Street View imagery in Google Earth. This means, that the older versions of Google Earth (anything before 6.0) will no longer be able to access Street View. We held off making this change until now, when the vast majority of Google Earth users are on 6.0 (or later). This may be an inconvenience for those of you still using earlier verisons; you can update to a recent version of Google Earth here!

Mark
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Leon95 1/27/12 5:36 AM
  • Bing Maps have streetside view .Is available in USA London Paris and big cities from Germany
  • Norc is a romanian street view .Is available in Romania Hungary Poland Austria and Slovakia 
  • EveryScape is an online mapping service that allows its users to view panoramic images from USA
  • MapJack is a map feature introduced in 2007 that is similar to Google street view.Is available in some locations in USA Thailand Singapore Malaysia Latvia and some cities in Canada.I dont think that this sofwares are better than older street view but i think  are better than the latest street view
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 1/27/12 6:21 AM
 Mark, can You please give us e-mails or some other contacts of persons in Google HQ who can be helpfull into restoring StreetView onto legacy versions?
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 1/27/12 7:22 AM
http://driveme.in

looks like 6.0 to me
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier AnnaDougherty 1/27/12 8:50 AM
I don't understand why some people on this thread are saying "Google are rubbish" and "Google don't listen". Seems to me like Mark has been collecting the complaints about v6.1, listed at the start of the thread, and putting them into a database, for consideration in future releases.
 
e.g.
 
" I want to make sure I am capturing what it is precisely that you all prefer about the old version of Street View in Google Earth"
 
"..the more specific you can all be about what you like or don't like, the more useful and actionable this feedback will be"

"I'm really trying to capture the specifics of what people prefer about the old Street View implementation."
 
" I can assure you that I am not the only person at Google considering it after reading this thread."
 
That tells me that Mark and Google are listening, so the petty complaints here really do amaze me.
 
By the way, I don't know if this is helpful, but I found that the distortion on the images was much worse when using a 500k internet connection than on a much faster 10MB connection.
 
Anna
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 1/27/12 9:19 AM
 If he would listen, it would take him 5 minutes to switch on StreetView back for versions 4 & 5

 The main point is 6.0 WORKS SLOW and photo icons were more convinient for professional usage. I'm not sure that 6.0 will be working fast and dragging pegman eachtime will become optional.

 So the discussion is pointless here. It is more like monologue of users who cannot work as fast as it was 2 weeks ago.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Stendec 1/27/12 12:17 PM
I suspect that thousands of Macintosh Power PC users worldwide are still trying to understand why Street View has suddenly vanished from the latest version of Google Earth (5.2) that they can run on their computers. 

Like me, they probably thought they had done something wrong, and wasted their time searching everywhere on the screen, restarting their computers, reloading the software, reading the "Street View" and "Timeline of Google Street View" articles on Wikipedia (still no mention of this in either of these articles). No one could imagine that a reputable organization like Google would just kill a popular tool and leave thousands of puzzled users in limbo! 

But on other forums I've read of many webmasters who found their Google Ads accounts cancelled, just as their earnings were creeping up to the first payment threshold. No one to dialog with, no way to get a proper explanation. No way to find out what Google didn't like, and no opportunity to fix it. 

It is not inevitable that large organizations are uncommunicative and unresponsive to their users. In my experience, Yahoo and Amazon are examples that it is possible to be big, and still be receptive to the needs of users and customers.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 1/27/12 1:05 PM
The reason for the complaints are that the version 6 is nowhere near as good as the version 5.2.1.1588 -Its full of full of problems -read the threads to find out what they are.  We didn't want tweaks to 6.0; we want 5.2.1.1588 back.  You may not have used it so don't know what you are missing.

Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Stendec 1/27/12 1:30 PM
Restoring Street View in Google Earth 5.2.1.1588 is exactly what I am requesting, papa dmitri. It's even more necessary for those with Power PCs (which can't run any later version of GE) than for those who can run version 6 but don't like it!
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier 'Geo Mark' 1/27/12 2:41 PM
Hi everyone,

I'm sorry that I haven't been more active on this thread for the past few days; the point of starting this thread was definitely not to placate those of you who prefer the old version of Street View. As AnnaDougherty has pointed out, what I'm trying to do is to collect feedback that will help us prioritize improvements in Street View (within Google Earth) going forward. I get that people here are very unhappy with the change. I don't want to patronize you all by saying "I understand your frustration," but I will say that we are paying attention to the mood on this thread, and I want to thank those of you have actually articulated your frustrations. 

Since my last post: YoungBrownEyes, Leon95, shawniganrower, harrykrak, stendec, and a few others have added a few more tally marks onto the reasons why the current version of Street View isn't working for you. I plan to keep listening to the thread, but what I'm really listening for are new reasons why you all like the old Street View. I understand that some folks may be upset by my not posting regularly here, but at this point my job is to take this feedback and help others at Google understand how Street View can be improved.

Mark
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 1/27/12 4:03 PM
1) Tools > Options
 a) Old StreetView

Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 1/27/12 4:07 PM
sorry... some hotkey posted automatically to forum


1) Tools > Options
 a) Old StreetView
 b) New version with Pegman

2) Compatibility of StreetView database with both 6.0 and 4-5 versions

3) Ability to install Google Earth 6.0 onto Macintosh Power PC, Windows2000 & other OS preferred by users

4)Speeding up Google Earth 6.0

5)Tools > Option
 remove all extra plugins, tools, buttons etc
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Leon95 1/28/12 12:19 AM
I like the old street view because i can see where street view is avilable without dragging pegman and why to dragging pegman to see a image when you can just click on a yellow camera.ITs faster than the last version and much easier to use.Image distortion of the latest street view is also an important point .For people who work much with Google street view Pegman is very annoying.Last 2 weeks i tried to use street view in Google earth 6 but i cant because is hard to use and slow.I want to ask you Marck if is possible to put back old street view in Google earth 5?
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 1/28/12 9:26 AM
 I'd  judge how good GE-Pro 6.0 for professional usage by simple experiment:

 [Total time to watch 100 StreetViews in 5.0 ] /  [ Total time to watch 100 StreetViews in 6.0]

[Total electricity consumed to watch 100 StreetViews in 5.0 ] /  [ Total electricity consumed to watch 100 StreetViews in 6.0]
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 1/28/12 10:24 AM
 I mean in industry no one would buy machine or equipement which uses 2 times more electricity & works 2 times slowlier.
Something like this is also true for professional usage of software. Nobody is happy about software that began to work 2-3 times slowlier.


 Or by driving a car one uses a steering wheel. If a steering wheel f.e. was replaced by a touchscreen with Pegman - that would cause a growth in number of traffic accidents
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Old Grumpy 1/28/12 11:29 AM
Everything was good, Received notice to update. Updated. Update did its thing. Still ver 5 not 6. No street view. ?????
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 1/28/12 1:44 PM
Mark,regarding your post:
As you know, most us don't think the old version really needed improving, and the 6 version certainly did not improve anything, in our opinion.  But we would really like to hear what you and the GE team think is are improvements in the 6 version.  I'd really like to know.  Then maybe I could start to enjoy it again.  So tell me what is the improvement from GE's perspective?
Thanks
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 1/28/12 2:43 PM
  BTW, when 'm posting to this forum, it writes that my message was posted 10 hours ago. It was posted 1 minutes ago but it writes 10 hours ago. Does time-zone work right on this forum?

 Just thought that it's important bug-report
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier rollback 1/29/12 9:54 AM
Version 5.2 (see and click): We've photograped some stuff you might like to see. If there is anything to see in the area you're interested in, there will be a camera icon over it. Click that.
 
 
Version 6 (blind man's bluff): We've photographed some stuff you might like to see. Now we're going to throw a tarp over that. Here's a pegman. Use this to blindly flail around until you (1) hit something, or (2) decide you have better things to do with your time.
 
I hope that adequately summarizes the pegman issue.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 1/29/12 1:41 PM
EXACTLY!  I agree completely.  Why won't GE recognize this and correct the problem?  There must be more going on than they are saying.  I've asked a couple of times what are the advantages of v6 and have not had a reply.  I've given up on google earth.  It used to be so informative and pleasurable.  Now it seems useless.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier whitelover 1/29/12 11:57 PM
  


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Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Leon95 1/30/12 9:28 AM
Street view should not be improved the older version was perfect.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier gio.s82 1/31/12 2:22 AM
Is not possible to mantain the old icon of street view?? They were really handy and fast. When you pointed over the mouse it showed information about road's name (ex I-90 or Contrada Cese) without loosing time to upload information about it. Maybe in the option menu you can create a choise between the new and the old icon of street view..THANK'S!!
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/1/12 4:30 PM
 It was genius. That's why vast majority needs to improve it.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/1/12 4:31 PM
 Humanity (vast majority) isn't ready yet for something that forks convinient and fast. Street View into 5.0 was too much ahead of time...
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/1/12 5:09 PM
 Actually nobody (even vast majority) would live worse if Google Earth 6.0 didn't exist. Nothing new & useful in it. Everything interesting already used to be in 5.0
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier wilba_uk 2/3/12 5:28 PM
pegman is bad
bubbles with layer was much better
I had to stick with version 5.2 now layer gone :-(
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 2/3/12 7:36 PM
I agree with Will UK'.  Why won't they put it back?  I've never heard a reason why they won't.  Why won't you, Mark et al? at GE??
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier cruelmo 2/4/12 6:58 AM
They're not going to put it back because this is one of the methods they're using to force everyone to "upgrade" to version 6. This technique is not without precedent.  Whenever software or websites are changed, the older version is usually available for a transition period so that users who don't like change are appeased... briefly.  However, eventually the old version is removed or support ceases, forcing those users to immediately acclimate to the new version, like it or not.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/4/12 7:24 AM
 Compared to Google, Microsoft's promotion of their new Wista & 7.0 is more democratic.

 And since XP soon will not be supported, Google Earth 7.0 is likely to require Windows 7.0 installation.

 Which is suspicious. Google is not a branch of Microsoft, but this way they are strictly promoting new Operation Systems from Microsoft to be installed. That's suspicious


tech-details. 4.3 & 5.1 worked fine on Windows 2000.
6.2 gives error message


The procedure entry point CryptUIDlgViewContext could not be located in the dynamic link library CRYPTUI.dll.


As far as I understand Google Earth is using either OpenGL either DirectX libraries. And thus is not really sensitive to other windows DLLs. Making it intentionally dependent of particular Windows DLLs while there is no such need also surprises me...
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/4/12 7:29 AM
Linux & Google are independent from Microsoft.

Linux does not require WindowsXP or Vista7.0 to be installed

Google does.

This is also true for Google Chrome. It also requires the freshest soft from Microsoft to be installed on PC. Either Google Chrome won't work
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Leon95 2/4/12 10:40 PM
Is clear that Google has something to hide.Google remove the old street view to make all of us download GE 6.Thank you Google.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier cruelmo 2/5/12 6:16 AM
BTW for the record, pegman is garbage.  I fiddled with it for a couple of minutes on first install and the only result was curse words.  I reinstalled 5.2 almost immediately.  I refuse to use the new complete garbage "pegman" streetview interface so I guess streetview is now a happy memory.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Lancer525 2/5/12 7:54 AM
Mark: You just keep temporizing, and evading the question, don't you? You keep asking for "specifics" as if the complaints you've already gotten are so vague as to be unintelligible.

What part of "we don't like the new street view at all" does the Google team not understand? There is NO way to tell whether or not the street view exists on any given road without using that stupid little 'drag me over" thing. (I suppose you call it "pegman", is that specific enough?"

It is clear from your evasive responses that Google doesn't give a rat's rosy red rear end what it's users want, like, or prefer to use. Especially since all you seem to be doing is saying "great response, can you be more specific" in the face of what I see as very specific dislikes.

Let me see if I can make it more clear for you guys...

The versions of Google Earth beginning with 6 have ruined the usability of Street View.  Reverting to the way it operated in the 5 versions will solve all the problems. Nobody can tell what is street-view covered without a significant amount of effort.

That clear enough and specific enough for you?

Sheesh, already.

I absolutely HATE the fact that I cannot tell from a straight overhead what is street view covered and what isn't. It makes it extremely difficult to use that functionality. Is not an improvement supposed to make things EASIER? The new street view is not easier.

Signed,

Angry User.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 2/5/12 8:47 AM
Amen!
When will GE listen and put it back!!
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 2/5/12 9:23 AM
EXACTLY, Lancer525!!!
 Mark and everyone at GE, How much clearer can we make it!!
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/5/12 11:05 AM
 I wonder how version 6.0 code looks like


 if (GetGEVersion != 6) :
        Show StreetView = False
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Lancer525 2/5/12 2:15 PM
I still can't figure out how to find out whether or not a street has been imaged on Street View, and there's nothing to show me whether or not it has. I don't mind that there's no yellow camera icons, but the least they could do is add a purple or orange or some other color line to a street to show that it's been imaged.

I saw another post somewhere that said if you clicked on that stupid pegman thing, that GE would show which streets had been imaged by giving a blue outline. Don't see that. Doesn't matter which way I click either, left or right.

Google's gotten so big that they don't HAVE to listen to their users anymore. It's what GOOGLE wants, now. The days of user-friendlienss, and listening to user feedback appear to be over.

Maybe I need to try to find some other street viewing software or program. Anyone have any suggestions?
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/5/12 3:06 PM
 Microsoft Virtual Earth
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier terrypin 2/6/12 2:24 AM
Mark,

I've been using a PC for 30 years and GE is probably my #1 app. Well, maybe a close 2nd to Google Search. I can't imagine life without either. But I'm one of the many, many users who preferred the previous Street View. I reverted to 5.2 many months ago, with that as the sole reason, and I'm mightily disappointed that I'm now forced to update to v6.

You've already identified the main reasons for the dissatisfaction with the new SV, but I'll list mine too as you've asked for maximum feedback:

1. Distorted views when zoomed/rotated.

2. Those thick white/yellow lines in the centre of the road. Apart from their ugliness, they completely spoil any screenshots. Excuse the capitals, but THIS IS VERY EASILY FIXED! Simply do what you do in Google Maps, namely make these TEMPORARY, fading them (and any other navigation aids) after a few seconds of inactivity.

3. Loss of the very useful SV layer, so we can no longer see at a glance whether there are SV photos available in a viewed area.

4. Navigation was easier, e.g. with the scroll wheel.

5. Pegman doesn't seem to work with complete reliability.

I imagine that at this stage it might be very difficult for you to revert closely to the old design. But even if you therefore retain the Pegman approach I would urge you to find a way to address these disadvantages.

And why not at the same time strive for consistency betweem GE and GM Street View implementation?

--------------------

To finish on a positive note (although OT), one excellent new feature of v6 that I've neen requesting in vain for years is Sort A-Z. At last I can maintain some semblance of order in My Places!

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK


Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier AnnaDougherty 2/6/12 10:18 AM
The minimum supported version for the CryptUIDlgViewContext command is Windows XP.
 
 
Time to upgrade I think...
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Leon95 2/6/12 10:21 AM
It seems that in 2012 comes the end of the world.The end of the street view world:))
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/6/12 11:15 AM
 It would be a good idea for present on 14th February from Google. After banning for one month the best feature of Google Earth 5 to let people using it again.

 It's like nothing new in particular, but it will feel like the first time we've met StreetView on Google Earth
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/6/12 11:36 AM
 I prefer to work on something that proves its ability to be fast and convinient. I've been working on NT, XP, 2003, Vista etc. (I don't remember full Microsoft discography but I've tasted all of that, believe me). Vista XP etc smell like Google Earth 6.0 to me. Lot of useless updates.
 In particular WindowsXP irritated me with that it slowly processed ctrl+alt+delete commands and ran slowly dying when many firefox windows opened
 Anyway, won't OpenGL and DirectX draw a triangle with a texture for win2000 ? :) Please!
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 2/6/12 12:08 PM
And it doesn't have to be that way if only GE would listen to its users and get back what was lost with 5.2
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier FC360D 2/6/12 12:32 PM
Well due to the fact 6.2 street view doesn't work very well and street view has now been blocked I guess I have no use for google earth anymore. Street view in 6.x is rubbish no zoom and when you move around the picture becomes all weird, why change something that didn't need changing is beyond me and why block it? I find google maps is much better then google earth as street view does infact allow zooming in and the pictures don't go all weird when I move around the picture. As soon as Microsoft do street view in UK I'll be switching to them as the satellite images are more upto date and they don't change things and make things worse.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 2/6/12 12:35 PM


On Monday, 6 February 2012 13:15:17 UTC-6, _________ wrote:
 It would be a good idea for present on 14th February from Google. After banning for one month the best feature of Google Earth 5 to let people using it again.


YES YES!!! Do it GE!!   Just do it!! 
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier AnthonyOD 2/8/12 7:28 AM
Where can I download the last version of Google earth which had streetview which worked on a mac powerpc? The Advanced Set up option is restricted to versions of 6.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier AnnaDougherty 2/8/12 9:04 AM
You're out of luck, the earliest version of Google Earth that (now) has Street View is v6.0.
 
Anna
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier AnthonyOD 2/8/12 9:23 AM
I wish it was down to luck! I reckon its not very inclusive of Google to abandon loyal users due to them being economically and technologically disadvantaged. How much of Googles vast resources would have been necessarily soaked up maintaining streetview for a possibly not insubstantial body of users.
Technology companies such as Google flout their socially aware credentials so much but when it comes down to engaging with users and supporting them with their products then their focus is very narrow and exclusive and demonstrates only the motives of profit and market share.
I won't be alone in feeling let down due to this loss of service.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Lancer525 2/9/12 5:03 AM
Welcome to "Google is too big to bother to listen to the few of us who don't like what they're doing"... They are so big a behemoth that it doesn't matter if less than 0.001% of their users are happy. As long as they make money, they'll do whatever they want.

The unfortunate downside is, they're so big, that there's nothing we can do about it. They wouldn't miss us.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 2/9/12 1:02 PM
They could still do it.  Come on GE, Give 5.2 back!  Do it Do it!!
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 2/9/12 1:03 PM
They could still do it.  Come on GE, Give 5.2 back!  Do it Do it!!

On Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:03:31 UTC-6, Lancer525 wrote:
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier nexor 2/9/12 2:05 PM
Our friend Mark still doesn't know what we talking about, let me see if I can explain it to him in good old english, version 5.2 worked like this;
When you zoom into street view a lot of camera viewpoints appear every few meters apart all along the street, when you click on any one of these viewpoints it gives you a panoramic view as if you standing in the street looking around you.
Now this is the perfectly fantastic function Google decided to discard and in it's place giving us a distorted aerial view of the street, all in the name of "progress"
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier AnthonyOD 2/9/12 2:23 PM
Do you think an online petition would have any influence on Google? One could be setup online somewhere I'm sure. Lets see how much support there is out there for bringing it back.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Meroma 2/9/12 2:30 PM
Funny I was feeling the same as you all about the new look/feel Google Earth - but guess it's like a lot of things - change isn't always easy and it's hard to figure why people will try fix something that didn't seem broken.
However, after a little fiddling about with the new look/feel - it's starting to grow on me and to tell the truth - I'm starting to really like it. I like how you can zoom along the street now - you see heaps more this way - the old bubbles limited this, I feel.
So I'm sorry everyone but I have to say it isn't as bad as it seemed at first - I LIKE IT NOW!!
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 2/9/12 2:30 PM
Come on GE -Give us back 5.2!!!!  Do it!!
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 2/9/12 2:35 PM
A good idea.  I don't know any GE Streetview user who would not want it back.  The problem with an on-line petition is -how do you make sure that all GE users know about it.  I don't know if many users know about this forum or would happen to log on when a petition was announced.  Maybe others would know more about on-line petitions and letting people know about them.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier AnthonyOD 2/9/12 2:46 PM
Its not a case of not liking the new setup its more to do with choice and the limitation imposed on some users by Googles decision to abandon a substantial number of users who cannot use the latest release. If Google could at least make the most recent release viable for these excluded users then I'm sure a lot of people would be happier. However not only is the most recent release not compatible or useable for many users but the alternative older release which was viable and functioning has been removed completely as a download option.

Myself I am not arguing in any way that the new version is superior or inferior, it is after all a lot of the time a matter of personal preference. My point is that many users choices are limited by their technology and Google have not seen fit to take this into consideration during the upgrade.

Only by communicating the lack of inclusion brought about by this latest release will Google maybe be persuaded to reinstate or recode the most recent release for such users as myself.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Meroma 2/9/12 4:18 PM
Ahhh Anthony, Now I get it! I was confused as many of the posts seemed to be complaint about the way the new version was working - and I think initially that is where it started.

But what you're pointing out is that the upgrade has not accounted for the many many people on older systems on which these upgrades are not working - will I agree with you that is not good nor fair. It is an absolute assumption for our corporate world to think that people have the ability to upgrade. That actually does suck especially in this current climate. And unlike the corporate world many of us aren't in a rush to upgrade for upgrade's sake - it is usually incredibly inconvenient and time consuming.

So sorry Google - I'm with AnthonyOD on this one - I like the new Google Earth but I don't like that it has created limitations to who can access it.

Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/9/12 5:17 PM
Yes. Petition. Who is the supervisor?

  I'm not sure that GE managers using GE as much as paperwork. They are managers not GIS specialists. They may not notice that China street map lays 1 mile away from satellite image. I'm sure that they're trying their best though. If they don't understand themselves that 6.0 slows down professional usage of their GIS-software, maybe it would be good to e-mail them and try to explain.


Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/9/12 5:40 PM
 Do GEO people who competently decide which StreetView is best for us hear about intentional map distortion in China? To fit the street map to satellite image one needs only to drag a map 1/2 mile to the west

 Talking about lame:

[image attached]


I can give more while I'm waiting for my Street View back on GE 4 & 5
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/9/12 6:11 PM
  Brief history: Believe it or not, some countries for military reasons were distorting all map coordinates. A big number of people were busy into distorting coordinates and keeping it in secret.

 Satellite image is correct however Chinese map  would fit only if city maps will be shifted to correct city coordinates (they can be easily found by the current satellite image)
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Leon95 2/10/12 11:52 AM
I tried again street view in GE 6 but iI REALLY DONT LIKE IT.Please bring the old version of street view back
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Meroma 2/10/12 2:57 PM
Must admit, there are now streets/places I used to be able to go into street view on, which I can no longer do - hmm wonder why? 
I know there were/are 'off-limit' places for a number of reasons globally, but the places that I can no longer access have not fallen into the no go zone in the past and there really is no tangible reason why they suddenly have become inaccessible - thats a bit annoying.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Leon95 2/11/12 2:38 AM
In the old version of street view the image look better than in latest street view.In latest street view the image look unclear.Please bring back the old street view
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Leon95 2/11/12 3:20 AM
The old street view is better than the latest because is easier and faster to use an have a better quality of image.Please bring the old street view back....
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier rollback 2/11/12 3:38 AM
Every great artist knows when the painting is done. Every good cook knows when to take the pot off the stove. In the present case, V 5.2 was the place to stop. Not sure what you were attempting to accomplish with V6, since 5.2 is by far the more elegant version,  a thing of beauty and a great achievement for Google. But V6, not so much.
 
You say that large numbers of people are using V6. Really? Do you also know WHY they are using it? Lack of choice, perhaps?
 
If V6. is so great, put it to the test!
 
Let people access 5.2 and 6, and tell them there is a choice; in other words, make sure they know both versions exist. Can't be that hard to track useage, and which version people finally gravitate toward.
 
 
 
 
 
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 2/11/12 11:24 PM
Exactly!
Why don't you do that, GE?
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Stadia 2/12/12 1:15 AM
I get the feeling that the whole purpose of this forum is to give unhappy GE users somewhere to vent. There is certainly nothing other than platitudes caming back from Mark. No technical explanation of why GE 5.2 lost it's streetview has been forthcoming (that I have seen), only platitudes and continual comments and  requests for clarification. I doubt Mark is more than a spin doctor who has been assigned to keep those of us who want a decent Streetview back from going further up the chain at Google. The way we have been treated certainly classes as 'Evil' to me so does anyone have Sergei Brin's email address to tell him that part of his organisation is no longer customer-responsive?
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/12/12 9:13 AM
 Try to guess what his e-mail is)
 But I think it's too high maybe. He might recieve thousands of emails every day. And afterall GE is not Google first-priority project.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Steve_G 2/12/12 12:33 PM
Mark,

I just found this thread because I was trying to use Street View on my Mac version 5.2 of Google Earth.  I have downgraded multiple times from 6.x to 5.2 because it kept updating automatically for me.  The reason for downgrading was the reduced functionality of Street View in v6.  In order to give it a fair shot, I downloaded 6.2, and I don't see any improvement from 6.0 or 6.1.

There are a couple of major problems with the implementation of Street View:
1) Yellow line for the road blocks parts of the image.  There should be an option to turn the line off.  The camera icons in the previous version were much less obtrusive.  I can't always see what I am trying to find in street view because the line blocks it.

2) Street names are illegible when flattened and take up too much screen space.  They are also way too large and can be blurred.  See attached screen images.

3) Not having the camera icons reduced ability to control what image is viewed next.

4) The removal of the camera icons makes it more difficult to choose an exact location when originally going to Street View from the regular view.  Previously, clicking the camera icon at an intersection would put you in the middle of an intersection and made it easy to zoom directly to the center of the intersection.  This is useful for work I do as a traffic engineer to view an intersection.  If you miss the exact location when dropping the pegman, you end up with a flat view of the aerial images which is useless.

I hope you will be making improvements to address these issues in future releases.

Thanks,
Steve
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/12/12 1:58 PM
  I think this is why Win2000 rejects GE6
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/12/12 1:59 PM
 GE6 is Glamour!
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier EasbyM 2/12/12 6:57 PM
I use the Windows 2000 operating system, which is tried and true, rugged, and does everything I want simply and easily.  I will not be upgrading to a new OS any time soon.
Therefore I cannot upgrade Google Earth beyond Version 5.1 (approx).
Therefore I cannot now see Street View.
I am very pissed off about this, Mr Google.

(Having seen the new version of Street View on another PC, I am not impressed either with the new way of display, compared to the old one.  There is a distinct lack of precision in locating the exact spot you want to view.)
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier terrypin 2/15/12 4:11 AM
Mark: I'm disappointed that despite your repeated claims to be very receptive to feedback and practical suggestions your participation here seems to have stopped.

For example, 9 days ago I made a constructive suggestion as to how you could very easily fix one of the gripes that I and others have about the new Street View. (I recommended that you do the same as in Google Maps, namely remove the yellow lines and other navigation aids after a few seconds of mouse/keyboard inactivity, so that the unspoiled photograph can be viewed as it was intended.)

But not so much as an acknowledgement...

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/15/12 8:46 AM
 I don't understand why one needs streetlines at all. There's already a photo of a road isn't it? Maybe there should be hints like "This is a road" "This is a house" "This a tree" "This is a car" "This is a very big house, Sir"
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/15/12 8:57 AM
 I just got great ideas for GE 7.0!

 I've seen somewhere java scripts with snow falling down and waves of water. So in winter time it'll be good idea to add snowfall animation to streetview. And wave animation for water objects.
 Also sound files with birds singing should be added without "mute" option
Also pegman can be animated. He may run along the streets smiling and showing us sime hints for example.


 Of course some people may not like that. But that's not problem. Simply streetview will be banned in 6.0 to help promote 7.0
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 2/15/12 10:01 AM
Hey Mark and everyone at GE.  It seems the natives are restless (see below).  Better allow 5.2 as well as your 6 series updates.  Come on Do it!!  If people want 6.1,2,3 etc. let them have it.  but for those that want 5.2 (and need it in the case of some computers) let the have it back.  Come on Do it!!
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/15/12 10:36 AM
 They need 10000 people at least to think about removing that ban. Opinion of 50 people is useless. Only 1 person is making descision to ban or not to ban. But seems he is not reading his forum.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/16/12 9:39 AM
  Is it scientific to call Pegman a step forward into the future?

 Let's guess that in 10 years scientists will invent a sensor display which will react on eye and feet movements. With those commands StreetView 5.1 will be able to display via movement commands to the next camera icon, and eye movement to scroll the panoramic view. However Pegman from 6.0 will work in a way that is very far from natural eyesight. Every time eye wants to see something, it must give a command to drag a pegman onto a screen.
Thus Pegman will be a real problem when operated with eye sensors.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier txersites 2/17/12 12:26 AM
Good points Terry.

I agree with you entirely.

Ian
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Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier AM909 2/20/12 6:56 PM
So how is that going (convincing them of the need to revert to the old UI)? I have the same issues as others.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Mr. Dave 2/24/12 11:29 AM
Hi
With V5.2, I could zoom very close to ground level and view a  small section of the map in great detal.  With V6.2, as I zoom close to ground level, the map angles away and distorts as it enters street view.  I cannot get a close map detail as before.
Street view was precice.  I could click on a camera and get that one location I requested.  I could see the area of street view covered at a glance by the camera icons.  Once in street view, I could zoom in or move easily to the next camera.  It was wonderful.
We dislike the new version and find it irritating.  Each time we attempted to use it, we give up after a very short time.  Street View was distorted.  I am now using V5.2 without the street view because of the accurate ground detail I acheve by usind the zoom which I cannot get with V6.2.
Is there any way you could reinstate the old street view in V5.2?
 
This is definatly a step backwords for Google Earth.
 
Mr. Dave
 
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier ron070 2/24/12 9:29 PM
Mark,
 
I have been using Google Earth 5 with street view for quite some time.  Believe it or not, my family and I are planning a long drive from Tennessee to Alaska in 2017, and I have been "clicking out" the entire route via the cameras.  I was just about to Kansas City, MO when I lost the ability to use street view.
I have tried Google Earth 6, but the photos are too blurry, and I cannot easily transition from the interstate to a road on top of an overpass, or parallel to the interstate.
You seem to keep mentioning that you want to know specific problems with Google Earth 6--but why do we need to do this?  I still use Windows XP.  I have tried Windows 7, but I prefer XP and can still do so.  I don't see the reason why older versions cannot be available.  I drive a 2005 car, and can still take it to the dealer for servicing--imagine if they stopped supporting all older cars!!!  Even if the older versions had not further updates on the photos--why can't they still be a viable option, rather than just eliminating all the older versions in one fell swoop.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Mr. Dave 2/29/12 4:04 AM

Hi,

Google Earth V5.2 street view was so easy to navigate and produced very clear and undistorted images.  My street view has now been removed.  After all the good work Google has done to produce Street View, it is so sad that it has been removed.

I have tried to use V6.2 street view and have gone back to V5.2.

V6.2 navigation in street view is very difficult, and it is very difficult to get the view of the area I require

V6.2 imagery can be very distorted and blurd

V6.2 zoom in to ground level, at a certain point starts to slope away as it enters street view.  V5.2 did not and was able to view close to ground level without distortion.

Why did Google change something that was working perfectly well?

This is a step backwards.

Regards

 

Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/29/12 10:20 AM
 BTW, guess what happens when user presses "+" button. You may guess that it zooms-in. Or "-" zooms-out? Well...... not exactly
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/29/12 10:28 AM
 Did anyone find some shortcuts or hotkeys to zoom-in ?  I've even tried to press "z" and "page down". No hotkey to zoom-in
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 2/29/12 11:11 AM
 That's strange. StreetView uses huge amount of disk space to store high-definition photos. But disables users to zoom in. Actually hiding all resolution beyond small "+" transparent button hard to find on screen.

 Does that mean that soon high-resolution StreetView will be replaced with a low resolution to economy a disk space quota? That's the only logical explanation why all zoom-in controls starting to vanish
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier AnnaDougherty 3/7/12 10:33 AM

I guess I was wrong about Google looking at the suggestions and maybe even fixing them. Mark seems to have disappeared from this forum. Maybe this was just to placate us users of GE after all. Version 6.2.1 *still* has got the wacky distored images and the lack of cameras over the streets, and still no option to even display a blue line showing where the google car has driven. So in that spirit, may I recommend Bing Streetside. It's not in many American cities, mainly the East and West coast cities (see pic), but it's reach is increasing, and it is a good alternative to Street View.

Anna

Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Rangemaster 3/7/12 12:01 PM
Bing Streetside is a lot cleaner, too.  I just looked at my house and it's a much newer and cleaner, sharper pix than GE.  I don't know if Bing will cover as much geography as GE, but hopefully they will.  I can sorta get along with GE 6, but i'ts a pain and I'd MUCH rather have ver. 5's streetview back.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier harrykrak 3/9/12 5:12 AM
Google's view appears to be 'we provide this advertising space for free so take it or leave it'. The only way we will get them to change it back is by not using it, then the advertisers will not advertise on it, then maybe google will take some notice. But don't hold your breath.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 3/9/12 12:04 PM
The annoying thing and the thing that's hard to understand is that GE won't give us any reason why they can't, or won't, give 5.2 back for those that need it.  There must be a reason, but why won't they at least tell us?
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier megilleland 3/14/12 2:37 PM
I have been using GE for route planning cycle routes across Europe. The simple and speedy operation of V5 enabled me to zoom directly onto a point on the map by clicking on the camera icons. As explained one could hop quickly along the route without having to open the image fully. No fuss or clutter. Now we have V6 which is a complete pain for me to use. I agree with all the posters that this version is complete overkill for us simpletons. I will be returning to reading my maps to get a clearer image of where I will be cycling. I have just uninstalled VG as I can't be arsed to using it. 
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 3/14/12 5:37 PM

 I'll try to explain in simple American language. For example I am a tourist in New York city. I want to visit Empire State Building rooftop. Building has one entrance with "OBSERVATORY ENTRANCE" sign on it. And many other entrances to shops and offices. To see sign "OBSERVATORY ENTRANCE" one has to zoom-in. To walk around the building you have to switch streets. Now compare time it will take onto GE62 and on google-maps with mouse zoom-in and possibility to switch between streets. After that you want to visit Macy's superstore or pizza and then find closest subway exit or bus stop. You will also have to switch parallel streets and zoom-in to see signs.
Also try to jump from Broadway to parallel 7th Avenue on Times Square on GE62 and GE 5. Which is more simple?

 Just try it & compare which one is better.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 3/14/12 5:41 PM
 Google is 10^100 value. It is how much information they are planning to use.

 Seems quota is nearing.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 3/14/12 5:42 PM
 I mean if Google doesn't give us their own answer. We can make our own guesses and ghossips
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier nokkien 3/16/12 2:03 AM
I like the way you carefully label the pictures taken. But it's hard to use the image to anything practical (forum/blog post), when it has yellow and white lines on it. Example picture is ofcourse a modest problem with, I have seen worse. A button to remove both lines perhaps?
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Hill (GEC Moderator) 3/16/12 8:17 AM
The last icon to the right on top of the viewer is supposed to look like a map and is a link to Google Maps. Click it and you will go to the same location on GMaps. There is a tab to open this in your browser now visible at the upper right. I suggest you do this. Then drag the street view guy to the address you want to view and you will see a street view that initially looks just like GE street view. But in about a second the lines will disappear and you can take a clean screen capture. Maybe some day GE will do the same but for now this is an easy work-around.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 3/18/12 12:58 PM
 Yes, I'm also using Google maps now. Never thought I'd discuss advantages of GOOGLE MAPS on GOOGLE EARTH forum.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 3/18/12 1:07 PM
 I mean why does he have to start Google Earth only to switch back to Google maps? At least he'll be able to zoom-in and easier navigate on Google Maps.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Hill (GEC Moderator) 3/18/12 1:12 PM


On Sunday, March 18, 2012 1:07:31 PM UTC-7, _________ wrote:
 I mean why does he have to start Google Earth only to switch back to Google maps? At least he'll be able to zoom-in and easier navigate on Google Maps.

No there is no reason to start GE to go to GMaps if you already know what you are looking for. But if you are using GE and just exploring and find something you want a screen capture of, using the Gmaps link is an easy transition. 
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Rangemaster 3/18/12 1:17 PM
That works pretty well and if you have all your favorite locations already on GE, it's not all that inconvienent.  Sharper images, too.  Be aware that if you use the compass in the upper left corner, you can get different views but they're different photos taken at different times.  Not a bad feature, though.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier OldBlueEyes 3/19/12 7:17 AM
And I think that's the point: Not to drive people to GE Version 6 but to drive them to Google Maps. As has been widely publicized, Google has begun aggregating user information across applications in order to better target users for sale to advertisers. Maps, being browser-based, facilitates this via cookies. Brutal, really, and I would imagine Google Earth's technical staff is embarrassed but powerless to reverse the decision.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 3/19/12 7:32 AM
 Now 2 different programs. GE for satellite view, Google Maps for street view

 Yes GE has more territories covered with hi-res satellite  images then GMaps. Never understood why they didn't show all that images especially for the areas not covered with hi-res images at all. Or covered with winter cloudy 2004 images above clear 2011 images

 About sharper images - I checked not to fly onto a street button. But I can't stop it. It still provides me a better service when I want just to zoom in.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 3/19/12 7:48 AM
 To compare Helsinki GE and distorted curly 2002 image for Google maps
 Also area with almost million population doesn't have hi-res on Google maps at all. But has nice 2011 clear image on GE

 Maybe they didn't have time to ckeck this out. They were busy with 6.0 see


 Also they did some color mask for it. So You won't be able to see deffects until one zooms-in. That's smart.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 3/19/12 9:13 AM
 But what profit did they have from Google Earth? I don't get it. It doesn't have advertisement or banners. It looks like non-commercial freeware
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 3/19/12 5:02 PM
 Or another guess why did they do that. If You've seen that official youtube tutorial movie  of WHAT SCENARIO SHOULD ONE FOLLOW to use Google Earth 6.0

<object width="640" height="360"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/p5cCccXPsvE?version=3&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/p5cCccXPsvE?version=3&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="640" height="360" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>

 Everything is done exactly for that presentation:
 1) When zooming in, it automatically inclines Satellite into horizontal position
2) It starts to show 3D buildings in Illinois
3) It curves streetview a little bit to make an illusion that there are walls on both sides of the street.
4) It smoothly replaces 3D buildings with StreetView
5) Scrolling the mouse or pressing anykey lets to continue tour along

This is like a smooth scrolling for scenario in which Your space ship landed onto Illinois Chicago East Cangress Plaza Drive.
 Thats what we gain from losing StreetView that was easy to use in 4.0 & 5.0

  To enjoy GoogleEarth6.0 one should do the following :

1 Install GE
2 Fly from space into Illinois Chicago East Cangress Plaza Drive 410.
3 Scroll mouse a little bit to move back and forth the street.
4 Return to space
5 Find Your hometown Boulder Colorado
6 Drag Pegman a little
7 Land from the outa space onto Your 15th street
8 Say WOW!
9 Uninstall GE
10 Play with smth else


it's like a toy that one should play with 2-3 times and then throw it away. That's the general vision of Pegman creators about what Google Earth should be like. Probably they're still not believing that You're practically using it.

 One is not recommended to use GE StreetView for  planning trips, making screenshots, educating children etc



Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier opinioneditor 3/21/12 10:31 PM
Some of us can only use 5.2. Why take Street View away from us?
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 3/22/12 9:03 AM
Yes, why? Dammit!!!!
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 3/23/12 7:12 AM
 BTW this article explains why mouse scrolling and shortcuts instead of dragging Pegman everytime make work faster. It says "Keyboard shortcuts generally expedite common operations by reducing input sequences to a few keystrokes, hence the term shortcut"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_shortcut
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 3/23/12 7:21 AM
5.1 had all functionality of 5.2. Actually 5.2 was optimized to work faster. But on 3.2Ghz computer had some blinking effect and number of fatal errors.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier harrykrak 3/26/12 3:31 AM
That is it. I am sick of distorted images and jumpy navigation. Bing Streetside is starting to cover the UK. Much as it galls me to use a microshaft product I cannot put up with this rubbish anymore. Keep your version 6, you are welcome to it.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier cruelmo 3/26/12 6:14 AM
It's a shame that Google took what was a fantastic product and literally ruined it.  Bing it is.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 3/26/12 10:30 AM
Any chance to let vote users of Google Earth Pro ?

smth like:


Your GE-Pro License ID :
Are You satisfied with the quality of 6.0?
-Yes
-No
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 3/28/12 7:16 AM
Yet another service that looks good in demo, but poor in practice

Even worse then numbers on stop sign != numbers on bubbles. They put stops on both sides of one-way streets. Missing numbers can be found in 1000 meters range. On other one-way streets which also have stops both ways.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 4/3/12 9:35 AM
They also killed terrain layer. Just discovered.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 4/12/12 11:45 AM
 They've got one rock patched. Smooth scrolling in Rio is even more smooth now
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier cruelmo 4/12/12 6:19 PM
just noticed that myself.  what a pathetic product.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier cruelmo 4/12/12 6:33 PM
My workplace has versioning issues and only installs new versions upon approval of certain government agencies.  In the meantime, I have to make do with deteriorating capability of the version we have.  This is somewhat unprecedented. Previously, you would expect a version of software to do the same thing it did on day one, regardless of the existence of upgrades...the original programs would still do what they did.  Certainly there are allowances for technological advances and required updates to keep up with the technology.  But when features that have obviously been possible with earlier versions are simply removed from them (but kept in the newer versions), this constitutes forced "upgrades", "upgrades" which some of us are unable to obtain.  Shame on you, Google.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Stadia 4/12/12 6:37 PM
To frustrate Google's tracking for ad targetting, may I recommend DNT+ from abine.com. It plugs into all three browsers I am using, meaning that I am not tracked and am therefore valueless to Google and all others who would use my online activities to generate revenue.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier cruelmo 4/12/12 6:38 PM
Sure, my previous post would hypothetically be responded with, "well you should get your agency to upgrade" (easier said than done)

Okay.  But I still don't like pegman. On a personal basis, I hate your new software.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 4/13/12 10:14 AM
version 6

1) When I want to explore satellite image, it forces me to tilt into street-view plain.
2) When I want to explore street-view, I have to exit into satellite image to switch to parallel or crossing road


 The idea of uniting streetview and satellite images is done some strange way. I'd say surgeon cut both heads ond sewn necks together. That's what it looks like when one wants to USE it. Not to PLAY with it.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 4/15/12 10:15 AM
 Really bogus 3D stereo view. On GMaps one can switch to so-called "3D mode". It will display streets like rectangular walls along the street. Anyway one has to see this. That's epic.
Must be another great idea how to trick waste majority. I've spent 45 seconds to understand that this is fake.

 Hope they'll make a real stereo view in future.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Masonicmoron 4/15/12 1:02 PM
Hi

The 3D Mode in Maps was an April Fool's joke that works well and was kept as a feature

Best regards

MM
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 4/16/12 7:03 AM
How much disk space did it occupy? Why is that feature supported and StreetView in versions 4 & 5 not supported?
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 4/16/12 7:22 AM
 While they spend 10^n terabytes to entertain kids, I need exactly the same amount of disk space to work with Pro version 5. Now I need to use both G-maps for the street view and GE 5.1 as a GIS pro tool.
 With such "top priorities" Google won't be able to support any "Pro" software. Google is not like very serious about such things
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 5/16/12 6:01 PM
 No matter who of them banned street view. Google did it.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 5/16/12 6:06 PM
 Found good example why photos might disappear. Every bug into map leads to loss of GPS located images. Might be that each change in map layer kills more and more streetview points


Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 5/16/12 6:12 PM
I'd rather say that street map should be bound to GPS then GPS bound to streetmap. GPS coordinates are facts, streeetmaps are someone's drawings. But maybe such GPS check is too difficult for them.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier rennmaxbeta 6/26/12 7:35 AM
Street View is totally broken for me in GE 6. The distortion, shear and streaking is just useless to me; completely unusable. The camera icons in the old SV layer were much much easier, quicker, better to use. I have no idea why it was changed, but Google Earth Street View IS NOW BROKEN.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 6/29/12 6:35 AM
 I'm not sure that we can demand a company to support all features into their older versions (however deleting content by force is something new into a history of software and no such case I believe)

BUT! We can demand to stop Googlemaps confusing their customers and replace "3D-mode" with "Fake 3D-mode (no relation with stereo-view)" option into G-Maps menu. I've bought a pair of red-cyan glasses, and what I saw there didn't meet any of my expectations according to what is thought to be by "3D-mode"

 This is a first thing we can do as customers unpleasant response on the fat corporation's action that was unpleasant to us.
 Anyway such fakes as GE6 increasing popularity (actually bans into GE5) and 3D-stereo-supermode (actually 2D + java fiction) are not so irrelevant
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier WayneSallee 7/21/12 1:07 PM
This is just stupid. Whoever decided to do this without looking at the consequence should be fired.

And your downloads don't even tell the version number in the file name.

I keep trying to download the latest version, but when I install it, it's version 5.2 instead of version 6.1

So now I can't get street view because someone at google decided to take action without using is head.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier WayneSallee 7/21/12 1:16 PM
Well, I found the version problem. Google installed a second installation instead of upgrading the old installation. So now I'm able to use street view again.
But you still need to put version numbers in your download to verify what version it is.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier WayneSallee 7/24/12 10:55 AM
I see that now when you grab that stick-man, there's a blue line on all of the roads that you can street view.

That makes it a lot easier.

Now  if you would feed something to the old google earth users to let them know to upgrade to use street view, when they use the old google earth that would save a lot of people a lot of frustration.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Adman500 7/28/12 9:16 AM
hi, I really do not like the pegnan/blue line street view update in 6.x I much preferred the 5.2 version where you double clicked on each little camera to view each street view image. i dislike the fact that in 6.x you have to move through the photos and therefore distort them, and you cant zoom in/out as scrolling the mouse also distorts the picture.

an option to revert to the 5.2 way of using streetview would really help.

is anything being done about this issue?

thanks
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 7/28/12 11:43 AM
Hi Addman,
When this deletion of version 5.2 started there were howls of protest on this site for the reasons you mentioned as well as lots of other reasons.  There hasn't been as much outcry lately, because after months and months of complaints it was crystal clear that GE staff & management weren't going to listen, respond or do anything about it.  They didn't even respond to my repeated posts asking them to explain WHY they were deleting 5.2 which was so much clearly better.  No reply to ANY of our questions or complaints.  Its infuriating.  Well we haven't gone away, just not using google earth nearly as much, or in some cases using it at all (those with computers that can't download version 6) 
I think some of the extras they have added lately sound good (I don't know because I can't access them) but why they couldn't add them to 5.2 is not clear because they've never responded to the questions
James

Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Adman500 7/30/12 9:50 AM
hi, that is a shame, becayse the street view part of google earth was  one of my favourite parts of GE.
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier papa dmitri 7/30/12 1:25 PM
ARE YOU LISTENING, STAFF & MANAGEMENT AT GE??
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Holy Moses 8/1/12 9:38 AM
Mark,
 
I have been using Google Earth for a while and have noticed with the new version that only primary streets are avaialbe for street view, this was not the case in previous versions.  When do you expect all the other streets will have street view returned?
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Adman500 8/5/12 5:58 AM
Dear Google, is anything being done to fix this problem?
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 8/10/12 6:44 AM
Googlosoft
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 8/10/12 7:19 AM
  Onceagain, I think streetviews may disappear because they bound photos to street maps. When they are changing maps, they may lose photos glued to previous map coordinates. That's just a guess why. However I'd not use many their map services because they are of a doubtfull quality. For them doing something 6.x is much more important then to fix 5.x
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier Confuse Us More 9/15/12 9:12 PM
I still can't get used to dragging that stupid man around, never lands in the right spot. Those camera icons were the best. How to make people upset.........New street view, IE9 & 10, no more igoogle,win 8, whats next abolish WIN 7 ?
Re: Update: Street View on Google Earth 5.2 and earlier _________ 9/29/12 8:11 AM

I had a flight from Kimpo International airport. I went to the location Marked by PegmanEarth 6.0. And there was not an airoport there sir. I was late for my air plane. Is Google responsible for that?


Just joking. Never treated PegmanEarth information seriously. It's like bla-bla-bla information quality. You never concentrate on the quality. You are

developing 7.0 instead. There will be a pegwoman also in GE7.0 stuff. The buttons won't be able to click. You'll have to drag a pegwoman to cl0ick the buttons. I'm so excited.


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