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Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ?

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Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? kaushalp 2/13/09 4:30 AM
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? kevinstonge 2/13/09 8:31 AM
The traditional menu bar does not exist in Chrome (and probably never will). All of the menu options you might normally find in those menus are located elsewhere in Chrome. Most of these items are located in the 'page' and 'wrench' menus to the right of the address bar - also try right clicking within a web page for quick access to some commonly used commands (like save/print/view source)
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? azazal88 2/13/09 4:52 PM
The whole point of google chrome is to make the browsing experience simpler.. Thats why the additional buttons do not exist..
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? dcrist 6/29/09 10:25 PM
1. Click wrench (top right corner)
2. Select "Always show bookmarks bar"


You're done.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? petterrabbit 10/8/09 6:09 AM
dcrist - thank you for actually answering the question!
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? QQFarmer 10/8/09 4:37 PM
@petterrabbit, take it easy. The guys above you have all answered the question, just from different perspectives.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Isa Superfast 11/14/09 11:53 AM
There is another way to show the bookmarks menu without the bulky bookmarks bar:
Go to your desktop (or wherever you normally open Chrome from) and right-click the icon
Click Properties
In the Target box, paste in " --bookmark-menu" (without quotes, and in case it doesn't show up, that's hyphen hyphen then "bookmark-menu". Sometimes browsers show hyphen-hyphen as a single dash.)
Click OK.
Do this for all of your commonly used Chrome icons.
When you open Chrome next time, it will show a menu next to the page menu that has a folder with a star on it. This is the bookmarks menu.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? meshane 11/16/09 4:55 AM
I fail to see how hiding commonly used functions so that people have to go search support forums to figure out how to add a bookmark makes the "browsing experience simpler."  

By the way, to add a bookmark to the page you are viewing, click the "star" icon to the left of the address.  And as was mentioned above, you'll have to click on the wrench and select "Always show bookmarks bar" to actually see the bookmark.  There is probably another way, that you can only figure out by searching support forums or wasting your time playing with all the menus and buttons until you figure it ou.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? StevePaul 11/16/09 4:15 PM
The anacronym RTFM comes to mind ...
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? meshane 11/16/09 10:52 PM
I think the mark of a good design is when you don't have to RTFM.  Often acheived through the use of menus, or putting common functions in common places.  The phrase that comes to my mind is: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Bootlegger 2/13/10 12:27 PM
Kevinstonge quote: The traditional menu bar does not exist in Chrome (and probably never will).
I don't understand how removing the traditional menu bar that everyone is familiar with makes Chrome so easy to work with!  My wife was upset that she couldn't do what she wanted without a lot of screwing around, so we are going back to Firefox.  I think this design has made Chrome geekier, not simpler!
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? motivatedmomma 2/21/10 7:27 AM
Interesting how angry people can be over something so minor. It was seemingly a difficult change at first but now I am loving the changes in Google Chrome. I am excited to see what innovative things are yet to come.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? StevePaul 2/21/10 7:43 AM
Interesting that simply because Chrome doesn't function quite like any other browser (it's called innovation) someone's wife has to embark on extra marital activities !!
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? soswife 3/2/10 5:22 PM
" Popular answer" only address  bookmarks. To fix text size of page as in VIEW,  click on the page icon and zoom, or simply use the control and + or - keys. I'm not sure about file and edit or why you need them when on the internet.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? whiteman 3/3/10 9:15 PM
So the only solution to accessing your bookmarks is by setting the bookmarks to always visible?
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? AlphaPunk 3/13/10 5:05 PM
It took me more than 60 seconds to find my bookmarks upon first using Chrome, totally unacceptable. You'd think with all the money Google has they could hire some UI designers. The design of Chrome is severely lacking and the lack of customization is the #1 reason why I will always choose Firefox over the rest.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? drael 3/21/10 9:41 AM
I don't see an answer in any of these responses to the original question. All the answers I see is in regards to how to view your bookmarks. My question is (and I think the original question was, if I'm not mistaken) where is the menu for "file" "edit" "view" "history" "bookmarks" "tools" "help" that is at the top of the page on most browsers? Does anyone know? I'm trying to "print preview" with is under the "file" menu but I can't find it.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? mcurtiss57 3/22/10 9:07 AM
I have to agree with drael; the question is not how to view your bookmarks, but how to view the "file, edit, view, history, tools, help" menu. So please answer that question and don't reference the bookmarks because that is not the question.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? DE88 3/25/10 9:18 PM
I have the bar on my macbook (that drael was referring to). I really like this browser.  I was using our windows computer and to my surprise the bar wasn't there. This is not user friendly for most. I can do the right clicks and go to the page and tool buttons, but for the average user i'm sure they'll be lost using this browser. Now I have to remove this as the default on my windows machines. I don't want to have to explain this to everyone who uses the windows machine. Suggestion to Google, follow what you did on the Mac :-) then you'll have an excellent browser. For now, Google Chrome on my Mac and Firefox on my Windows machines.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? cra1.rmstrong 3/30/10 11:39 AM
kevinstonge, and DE88, You've both hit the Google issues square-on!

Trouble is, kevinstonge, what you hit was the utter stupidity of user interface design that Google Chrome has, and you Approved it! My! How ridiculous!

DE88, thank you for pointing out how dumb Google Chrome "Engineers" are to assume Mac users are less intelligent the Windoz' zombies, and give their Mac face of Chrome a more user-intuitive design, while snubbing windoz users with really, really dumb interface provisions.

Google so-called "engineers" have been given far, far, far too much license to play with their altered reality ideas and pass their bizarre apps on as if such apps were useful to real-world users.

Fact is, and always will remain so . . . the brightest designs Man makes are those with the most user-intuitiveness, something Google started out with, but has now trashed with its Chrome Browser interface.

Google, if you make Chrome with the user-intuitive interface for Mac, but not for Windoz, how do you cope with making your other innovative technologies user-intuitive?

I took basic app design courses years ago, when real software designers were concerned with the simplicity of the user interface, and spent more time programming user intuition into their apps than in the apps' design and programming, just to be certain what users had as a tool would DO what the user expected, WITHOUT taking up programming to understand the damn application!

With Chrome, Google boys, you lost it!
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? cyclops8181 4/2/10 12:17 PM
The complete File menu similar to IE and FF is available on the Mac. Weird you don't have it for Windows.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? bobc4012 4/9/10 1:33 AM
cra1.rmstrong has hit it right on. The "File Edit" toolbar should be there as it is in every browser I have used. In addition, the user should also be allowed to customize the toolbars. I find having the TAB bar at the very top, quite cumbersome. Personally, I will stick to Firefox. I tried Chrome at the suggestion of my grandson (who still uses Windows - can't convince him to at least do a "Wubi" install of Ubuntu). So far, I have been sadly disappointed, except that it performs somewhat faster than FireFox 3 (3.5 and 3.6.3) under Windows. However, Firefox performs much faster on my Ubuntu installs (2 wubi installs - desktop and one lap-top (using "virtual disks") and one native install on an older lap-top). I understand the newness of Chrome and it does not have the range of extensions available on Firefox (which I use many and it slows down the loading process). I also would like to see the "extensions" show in a drop-down menu (or as a "Tool" menu item) rather than being appended after the URL (or use the "bookcase" idea from the Gnome implementation).  Hopefully, future releases of Chrome will address the lack of a "File Edit" toolbar and provide the ability to reorder the positioning of the toolbars and provide means to keep the toolbars usable without over-cluttering.. I guess users who have only used "Internet Destroyer" (IE) are probably happy to have something more secure and simple.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? PaulBt 4/15/10 8:59 AM
Hi, I have just today started using Chrome due to severe memory leaks on Firefox 3.6. While Chrome is free of this problem - thanks -  I have to agree with those who like the "old" way of finding bookmarks. I am an experienced computer user, yet I had a little difficulty finding how to use bookmarks. Now, as far as I can see so far, I can only have my bookmarks folder easily usable if I have the bookmark bar visible. I do not want a bar all the way across the screen, thanks. Also I am trying to use keyboard shortcuts as much as possible to avoid getting RSI from too much mouse. If the "traditional" "file, edit" etc. menus were present, I would know exactly what to do to access bookmarks and much else via the keyboard. As it is, I have not found that info despite a search on the net for "bookmarks Chrome". I expect to have to do a little learning with any new programme, but not to have to search this much. As for those who recommend RTFM, that is fine if you are talking in-house to a lot of computer geeks. But if you are promoting a mass-market web-browser it is counterproductive and indeed arrogant.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Raisen 4/24/10 10:31 PM
One thing I miss by not having the menu bar is that one plugin I have that allows windows to stay always on top don't work with Chrome, because the plugin relies on the menubar... oh well.
This message has been hidden because it was flagged for abuse.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? wornout 5/3/10 2:39 PM
I kinda like having a 'File' option so when reading messages in groups I can click 'File' then 'Send page as email' and the message is sent to friends.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Scott1111 5/8/10 8:47 AM
Using 5.0.375.29 beta for Linux.

The --bookmark-menu parameter does nothing.

I use my bookmark menu in firefox all the time and won't trade it of a god awful bookmark bar. Get real Chrome and provide an easy way to get to my list of bookmarks without using an entire page or the whole menu bar!

This is my 3rd or 4th time I've tried Chrome after a supposed great release and been disappointed in one way or the other.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? StevePaul 5/9/10 6:39 AM
I use this extension (in both Ubuntu and Vista) for my bookmarks primarily because the -bookmark-menu option isn't available for Linux builds (not sure why) ....

Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? atomic1fire 5/28/10 8:25 PM
All of the major features are webpages
Chrome://bookmarks
Chrome://history
chrome://extensions
Chrome://plugins

You can easily just make a folder and name it menu, if you want a closer button with the most used features next to the navigation area,
a bookmarklet can even provide a rather hackish close button
javascript:window.open('', '_self', ''); window.close();
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? ColonelEgz 6/2/10 6:46 AM
Wornout, you'll find that Google Chrome is so striped of basic features (like the one you refer to) that if it did have a Menu Bar, the menus would be mostly empty... Google Chrome is a simple browser, so we need to have that in mind when we "request" features. If you want something more powerful, use something else. That's what I do.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Winning Trader 8/31/10 6:44 AM
After wasting all my time and finally found out where to show my bookmark, I am going to un-install google chrome after giving this comment. Einstein said, "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler." You cannot make driving a car simpler by hiding away all the buttons, odometer, switches on your panel. Grow up, bye chrome.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Anninthesun 9/4/10 9:39 AM
RE: @Isa Superfast's suggestion on 11/14/09
This doesn't work for me. I get message "Problem with Shortcut
The name  ‘--bookmark-menu’ specified in the Target box is not valid. Make sure the path and file name are correct."
        
Isa Superfast's suggestion is below:

"There is another way to show the bookmarks menu without the bulky bookmarks bar:
Go to your desktop (or wherever you normally open Chrome from) and right-click the icon
Click Properties
In the Target box, paste in " --bookmark-menu" (without quotes, and in case it doesn't show up, that's hyphen hyphen then "bookmark-menu". Sometimes browsers show hyphen-hyphen as a single dash.)
Click OK.
Do this for all of your commonly used Chrome icons.
When you open Chrome next time, it will show a menu next to the page menu that has a folder with a star on it. This is the bookmarks menu."

I recommend we all TWEET #Chrome with our issues and maybe Google will take heed to give us a viewable bookmark bar!  You'll find my Tweet about it on @annieinthesun. Probably going to blog about this too. The more we are vocal, the more we might be able to influence Google to address this.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? trb92110 9/10/10 8:19 PM
This is the most frustrating threads I have ever seen!!!!!!!!
The question was "Where is the File Edit View menu go?"
But 80% of the Chrome-heads take up all my time trying to filter thru their MISPLACED and mistaken replies! 
The question had NOTHING to do with the "Bookmarks Bar"!
Geez read the question before you start flaming people!

With  out the Five Edit View bar, the inability to install Google's OWN indispensable Toolbar and the stupid download bar that popups and STAYS there until you close it, AND popups for EVERY download! (And don't start telling me workarounds in Chrome that accomplish the same this; you are dead wrong!!!   I think my business here is done.
I have no vowed that the only thing the Chrome is good for is watching Hulu and YouTube!

Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? André77 9/13/10 12:11 PM
I would love to use Chrome because it really is faster.   But not at the price of having to  discard the many years of 'training' under my belt to use the tools (File, Edit...)that help me manage internet information according to my needs.

There is a difference between simplifying, and dumbing down...

So back I go to Firefox...
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? bill0824 9/13/10 3:35 PM
Press the Alt key to restore the File Edit View Tools etc. bar.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? meshane 9/13/10 3:43 PM
Alt key? That doesn't work!  What version are you running?  What version and I running?  How can you tell without a frickin' menu?

Google, wake up.  There are many things you do right, but this is not one of them.  There are many threads on this issue, and the first suggestion of a solution to a question asked more than 18 months ago, doesn't actually work.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? drkwc 10/14/10 7:56 PM
I wish bill0824 would tell us more about how to go about pressing the Alt key to restore the File Edit View Tools etc. menu bar. Are we supposed perhaps to whistle a particular tune while we press the Alt key to make this work?

Do tell. Because I would love to make that work.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? meshane 10/14/10 8:16 PM
I've noticed that if you hit Alt-F or Alt-E, that the same menu that you get by hitting the wrench pops up. :(

Someone pointed out that my "popular answer" above doesn't answer the full question.  That's because I was at the time answering the only part of the question that I could find an answer to.  The real answer to the original question of "Where is the File / Edit / View / Bookmarks menu" seems to be that there is no answer.  It just doesn't exist.  Even the "popular answer" I gave about how to restore your bookmarks menu doesn't work anymore on the version I have.  Google Chrome took a giant step backwards on this it seems. Anyone know how to see your bookmarks now without the three mouse clicks it takes to see them in your bookmark manager?  Of the missing menus, that one does seem to be the most important for a web-browser.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? SthrnDixieCwgrl 12/16/10 1:49 PM
I have the File Edit View menu bar on my Google Chrome.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? manex 12/23/10 7:51 AM
Google chrome simplycity can not be appreciated if tech savvy need to come to google/forums to find out fav and other buttons.
bring back buttons in next version!! Or keep loosing ppl..
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? SthrnDixieCwgrl 12/24/10 6:41 PM
I have that on mine
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? atomic1fire 12/28/10 9:55 PM
Chrome's an awesome browser, and If you look at firefox 4, you still need to set firefox's menu to appear, otherwise you need to use the firefox button.
and I think IE9 even for the most part removes the menu bar.
Most of the features that the menu bar provides are either done by wrench which is also combined with page now(such as accessing history or print)
Or can be filled with an extension, such as click&clean https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/ghgabhipcejejjmhhchfonmamedcbeod?hl=en
which gives the user access to several important chrome functions (like what wrench does, but far more) but also allows you to do things like erase personal data (for privacy) or send the current tab's link in an email. and it also gives the user access to windows tools as well.
You can find more extensions at http://chrome.google.com/extensions
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? nlcatter 12/29/10 9:01 AM
i love how google returns things you did NOT ask for

and does not return things you ASKED FOR!
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Spalm 1/3/11 3:28 AM
You can use the keyboard shortcuts Ctrl+Shift+B (Windows and Chrome OS) and ⌘-Shift-B (Mac) to toggle the bar on and off.

You could also, as many people noticed, dock the bookmarks bar:
Click the wrench icon  on the browser toolbar.
Select Tools.
Select Always show bookmarks bar.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Phred_E 1/9/11 10:02 AM
I find this thread a magnificent demonstration of how hide-bound people become when they get used to some things even when they have nothing to do with the laws of the universe.
File/Edit/View was just a convention and we fell into the habit of using it. When an innovation comes along people refuse to look around the interface and actually get angry and belligerent. If Chrome engineers were ever to reveal themselves just imagine what the People-With-Guns country would do to them. It's laughable (there's a term for the moment; I hope she survives).
ANSWER: There ISN'T a FEV menu; it's gone. It's been innovated away. Learn, change, adapt. Yes, extra brain cells, but only a few.  We've been told here Ctrl+Shift+B toggles the bookmarks on and off. That didn't take long to find.
As for those saying they want commonly-used items at-the-ready, how about bonnet release button (Septics call it a 'hood'(?) I think) on a car's steering wheel? You'd use that every... month?  Similarly the Show Bookmarks Bar button.
Perspective, Luke; perspective.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? SthrnDixieCwgrl 1/11/11 10:03 AM
If the menu bar is gone then why do I have it in my version of the browser that I downloaded from the GOOGLE WEB SITE
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? jwaffe 2/2/11 4:48 PM
Due to this design, I'm only using chrome when I absolutely have to (there's this one page that doesn't like firefox). It's counterproductive to take seven different menus and stick them all under one button, not to mention, a lot of the commands I use are gone.

At least give me an option to get the menu bar, what's the point of forcing me to not have one? It's the same thing with office 2007, I LIKE having menus divided up and categorized.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? cheluto2 2/17/11 12:56 PM
BOOKMARK SOLUTION....
I also prefer the OPTION of having a Menu bar.  What bothers me the most is the Bookmarks issue.  I set bookmarks so I can go to a site in 2 clicks.  I don't want to have my bookmars displayed accross the top of my browser for many reasons: 1) it's distracting; 2) I have to scroll sideways to find what I'm looking for if it's more than 4-5 items down; 3) Privacy: I don't necessarily want everything to show if I'm showing someone something on my screen.  Yes, I know that if I put my most used sites first I can get to them in 1-click, but the cons outweight the pro of that, in my opinion.

SOLUTION:
Given that Google has decided to do away with a menu-style Bookmark access, I came up with a solution that works for me: I put all my bookmarks inside a folder one level below the main "Bookmarks Bar" folder using the Bookmark Manager.  Then I simply chose the option to "Always show bookmarks bar".  Now what I have is just one folder that I labeled "Favorites" under the address bar.  When I click on it, all my bookmarks appear below it as if it were a menu.  I'm happy with that, and I hope it helps some of you.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Phred_E 2/17/11 10:49 PM
That's interesting, chelu.  The only thing I'd say about what you do with your bookmarks bar is that you sacrifice a whole 'line' of space across your browser to blankness.  With only one bookmark on the bar you waste an awful lot of screen real estate for the sake of preserving you attention and embarrassment..

I'd suggest that you simply shorten the names of your set of most-used bookmarks to three or four characters - that way they're virtually unintelligible unless you bother to think about them (that takes care of the distraction issue) and they're cryptic, being so short (that takes care of the embarrassment issue).  (Should we discuss this elsewhere..?)  IE8 has a 'Show selective text' feature.

The thing that the troglodyte types here on the forum don't appreciate is that the usability labs that the software design houses are detecting is that people want a clean 'browsing experience'.  The minor dozen of complainers here are likely part of the perpetual 3% of people who can never be pleased, so to the great mass of users the minimalist new interface is likely a pleasure.  People are wanting browsing to replicate the interface they see in dedicated graphical apps, with the browsing accoutrements out of sight.  Having a View menu item so that you can change your toolbars, for instance, while writing a job application in a word processor is something less that relevant, I suggest.

Furthermore, check out IE9.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? PaulBt 2/18/11 3:19 AM
Phred E wrote "The thing that the troglodyte types here on the forum don't appreciate is that the usability labs that the software design houses are detecting is that people want a clean 'browsing experience'.  The minor dozen of complainers here are likely part of the perpetual 3% of people who can never be pleased, "

How dare you be so arrogant and patronising! Whatever others may want, what I want is simple and sensible - I want to minimise use of the the mouse and maximise use of the keyboard to avoid getting RSI. Therefore I want easy keyboard access to my bookmarks, as I was used to in Opera, Firefox and IE.

So cheluto's solution does not work for me as it is mouse-based. What I currently have to do is use keyboard shortcuts to open bookmarks in a new tab, and then navigate to the desired bookmark - this takes several keystrokes. I would rather have a pop-down tree of bookmarks accessible with one keystoke, as in those other browsers. Simple, efficient, and good for my wrists.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Phred_E 2/18/11 3:57 AM
I don't quite understand you, Paul. You say "How dare you.." which is a question structure in English, but then you seem to be making a statement in high dudgeon. Huh?  
But I do, I'm afraid, have to brand you as a trog, and for more than one reason. 'Yada yada yada' Elaine might say about your comments, in which you use a first-person pronoun seven times about the way *you* want things. (I used I once.)  I'm talking about the big picture, hence my reference to usability labs, where people are observed in large numbers.
Stamp your foot all you wish, my boy, but browser redesign isn't all about you.  Remember, I said that it's found that people want a clean experience. Regret it all you like, but until you come up with good, civil, arguments, the meme is going to draw further and further away from you.
I like the keyboard too, so go ahead and make some even-tempered suggestions as to improvements. Keyboard cues don't have to be visible, do they?  And get an inclined mouse like Msft's Natural 6000 or one from Goldtouch, or a Trackman.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? PaulBt 2/18/11 4:44 AM
I don't usually get in to flame wars, but I am sorely tempted. Suffice it to say that usability is about what people want, and I (yes, first person) am one of those people. Thus the use of the first person, to point out that your generalisations certainly do not apply to me.

And what is all this - "brand you as a trog", "stamp your foot all you wish, my boy" (did I accuse you already of being patronising?). You ask me to make good civil arguments. Apart from one sentence in my post, that is exactly what I did.

My suggestion is this - and it was there in my original post. One keyboard shortcut that gives a bookmark tree, navigable with the arrow keys, as in Opera, IE, Firefox. I don't really need it to relate to a file/open menu item accessible by mouse if it interferes with a "clean browsing experience", though I think that others earlier on this thread preferred it that way.

I would have thought that usability surveys or similar would be best served by trying to keep as many people happy as possible rather than saying that the majority want x so if you want y, hard luck.

I would have given up on Chrome long ago over this issue were it not that I need it's low memory footprint.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? StevePaul 2/18/11 5:08 AM
Haven't been here for such a long time and I can understand why !!

Anyway suffice to say, if you want to do away with your 'Bookmarks bar' yet retain your Bookmarks in an easily accessible tree format install the 'Bookmarks Menu' extension, whch puts a nice little icon next to the Omnibar....


You've got all sorts of options for customising the look and feel, including which Bookmarks (Folders) you want to include ...
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? PaulBt 2/18/11 6:33 AM
Thanks StevePaul. I have installed that extension and it gives me the format that I want - but, to reiterate in response to other posts from way back, though it solves the problem for use with a mouse, it is not accessible (as far as I know) via a keyboard shortcut.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? BellaSpirit 3/15/11 6:11 AM
Thanks. That information is very helpful.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Phred_E 3/15/11 12:08 PM
ANSWER (PART):For me mate PaulBt who's off-topic but wants access to his Chrome bookmarks from his keyboard, here's the answer:
[Optional] Ctrl+Shift+B if your bookmarks bar isn't showing;
[Optional] Ctrl+T for a new blank tab, if you don't want to sacrifice your current one**;
F6 F6  [ie twice][** F6 once only if you've Ctrl+T'd a new tab: you're already on the omnibar];
You'll notice that the first of your b'marks has a feint dark surround; it's selected;
A right-arrow will move that selection along the b'mark bar - to get to your 'Other bookmarks' choose a left-arrow instead: it wraps around;
Use a down-arrow press to open the bookmark list;
Press the arrows to get to your desired b'mark*, OR
Press an initial letter of a b'mark or folder to jump to your desired place.
*Note that the sideways arrows act left-is-right and right-is-left because of the way sub-folders open.
F6 makes sense because it's long been the Change Window key in the GUI, and Chrome is just clustered windows.
So, for example, to get the top 'Other books' b'mark:- F6 F6 Left Down Enter.  Easy.
Bet that helps.

There must be a thread on keyboard shortcuts here somewhere.  We need a link.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? PaulBt 3/16/11 3:00 AM
Thanks very much, Phred_E! I had not realised that sequence would work. I will use that gladly.

Re usability and Chrome's design, though, it is still several keystrokes - the relevance of the keyboard question to the topic of this thread is that on other browsers, the file/edit/etc. menu was the way that one could access bookmarks with just a single keystroke. That is how the keyboard shortcut topic appeared on this thread - but I quite take your earlier point that my needs could be met without having to reinstate the whole file/edit menu.

Thanks again.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? B3cky 3/17/11 2:25 AM
Please change it back. I reckon I am a really skilled computer user and like and embrace change but I am now avoiding chrome because I cant work the favourites. Fewer buttons does not mean simpler. I tried again today but  had to look up how to get my bookmarks back. The old system was intutive, this is not simpler and what happens when you have lots and lots of bookmark folders like we do? I have at least 10 folders on the old system full of different bookmarks. We will have to create subfolder and that is not simpler
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Colm101 3/21/11 6:16 PM
But seriously, why do new browsers always seem so keen to get rid of the FEV toolbar when they make changes ?

Why can't they just replicate the standard layout that's worked for ages ..just what is supposed to be wrong with it ?
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Phred_E 3/22/11 11:52 PM

Hey, you two, seriously, you're sounding like Bananarama - 'I want you back, I want you back, back - yeah!'.

Is this how the internet works? I want it, I want it, yeah. Solipsism lives deep and strong.

Do you really think, seriously, that Google is going to scan half a dozen protests on this forum and reverse the results of all their research work so as to keep Becky and Colm happy?  That's solipsism for you. =8-|

Wouldn't it be better to think through the concepts and offer a paradigm-wide reason why FEV would serve the whole planet better than the new look?  Give us something pathological, something fundamental, essential, some insight that we've all missed. Give us all a whack on the sides of our collective virtual heads. Give us a Duh!

But really, think about things the majority of us use and how often we use them.  To quote myself, above, how about a bonnet release lever (Septics call it a 'hood'(?) I think) on a car's steering wheel? You'd use that every... month?  Year?  Similarly the FEV line.  Remember, the spanner's always there: same expense: one click, and the most-often-used items lie under that.  In the meantime you get a less complex screen and more real estate devoted to what you're browsing for.  Yes?

Get some perp, my children; perspective.

Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? meshane 3/23/11 6:34 AM
This is silly.  Imagine if a car manufacturer said, "we found that our customers were only using the hood release lever twice a year, so we took that feature away."
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? caver_tim 3/23/11 7:32 AM
meshane. thats not really a good analogy of why the traditional menu bar has gone.

Imagine the complete lack of fuss if the new Ford came out with electric windows, and Ford had the foresight to think that given you have a button to raise and lower your window, you probably don't need a handle as well.

Everything that would traditionally be under a "File Edit Tools" menu system is available under the the spanner icon. If its not there (like print preview) it would not be under the file menu either. 
So why did Google do this?
Lets run though a design experiment.
If we take a look at a "traditional" web browser we see

File Edit Tools Help
< > R H [http://www.cnn.com                    *]

ie you have the menu bar, lots of wasted space to the right of it, then you have the forward/back/reload/home buttons and address bar. 

Why not save some space by moving the menus to the right of the address bar, like this.
< > R H [http://www.cnn.com              *]   File Edit Tools Help

Why not save even more space by reducing 4 headers to 1 ?
< > R H [http://www.cnn.com                    *]   Menu

why not save a bit more by replacing the word "menu" by a little icon. "menu" on its onwn looks weird anyway
< > R H [http://www.cnn.com                    *]   #


which is what chrome is now using.
lets do some click analysis (assuming you don't use a keyboard shortcut / icon)

Function         clicks with menu bar (IE 7)     clicks in chrome

Copy text            2                                           2
print page            2                                           2
view history         3                                           2
Save Page          2                                            2
View source        2                                            3

How about if you don't want to use the mouse to access menus?

Exit                <alt> F  X                      <alt>+F X
new tab          <alt> F T                        <alt>+F T
Print               <alt> F P                       <alt>+F P
browse menus <alt>  <down>               <alt>  <down>

Really nothing in it apart from "it looks a bit different".
Uses the same / similar number of clicks and uses less screen space
Really that hard?
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Deffender 3/23/11 8:00 AM
Fellow people:

This topic is constantly brought up and always futile.  Please reference my link below for a complete rebuttal of nay sayers.

Graphics and UI design was not a perfected are in the 80's so why would that be the holy grail?  We are changing things. Yes Change.  That thing that gets promised and seldom happens unless unilateral actions and strong wills back them up. 

The Chrome Teams strong will to change what you expect and want will not be shaken because it wasn't a "cosmetic change"  it is perception shift they want people to examine.  And for the record "it's not like everything else!" isn't examination.  That would be dogmatics. 

-Deffender
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Blue Marlin 4/28/11 10:03 AM
To View Bookmark Bar in Google Chrome

1. Click gray wrench in top right corner
2. Select Tools
3. Select "Always show bookmarks bar"
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? festusboozer 5/3/11 12:23 AM
CHROME:             MY TWO CENTS WORTH  ---------
I have used GOOGLE as my home page since the late 1990's because as a company, they provided many free options, no blinking banner ads, gmail with 5 Gigs of free space and their "NO TRICKS" operating philosophy meant I could come and go with delightful freedom. Other browsers had a built-in yo-yo of some kind that kept bringing me back to it I strayed. With GOOGLE there was no such behavior. Even now some sites have nine lives. Visit them and you can never free yourself. They can't be killed. They crowd out other sites and REFUSE to leave your monitor. Even wounding them won't do them in. After a restart, they are alive and back like your mother-in-law and I have to go to forums to find out out to nuke them.
Not that long ago, "File / Edit / View / Bookmarks and Help"  were sacred because it had been such a staple with browsers, including GOOGLE and it just was not like GOOGLE to play with the mind of its followers. Those commands had become INTUITIVE to the user and I thought Google would simply never do something disrupt the INTUITIVE aspects of its site.  Google could be trusted, they put the customer first and possessed the fastest and most comprehensive search...and still do. I switched to CHROME when it was rolled out and shortly discovered I had "Lost" what had become INTUITIVE and the familiar. The old, familiar and productive tools of "File / Edit / View / Bookmarks and Help" at the top left above the template had simply been jerked from CHROME and I felt very much JERKED AROUND. It took half an hour for me to actually believe that I wasn't doing something wrong. It NEVER occurred to me that of ALL browsers, GOOGLE would, in effect say,  "You're gonna do it our way so get used to it" philosophy. I was STUNNED and felt betrayed. The anchor functions found on every page of every browser were gone. The one staple of the industry had been trashed I could no longer operate in a near "automatic" mode. It was and is the anchor and a navigation tool for me. It was the essence of my ability to operate my own computer or others and set me back on nearly every job I did. It made no sense. It was contrary to Google's own INTUITIVE no tricks, no surprises way of operating that had been in place for years.  In the early days of home computers the term "User friendly" was used to describe INTUITIVE aspects of using a  computer. GOOGLE  was both "user friendly and intuitive. Call it anything you like however using an analogy and comparing it to an automobile such a dramatic change would send any new model to the bone yard.
Image getting in ANY production car in the U.S. and with key in hand it isn't necessary to look for where to insert im, turn it forward and start the car. Its on the right side of the steering column. All cars GM, FORD, CHRYSLER even foreign cars wouldn't dream of messing with a drivers mind by moving it. When it rains, the driver automatically begins feeling for the wipers on the "turn signal" stick always on the left of the steering column. When it gets dark, no need to pull over and start reading the manual to find the lights switch, it too is on the left of the column or in rare instances, on the dash to the left of the column. Somebody not watching where they are going should get a horn blast, it too is easy to find on any car, steering wheel. No need to get out the manual to find the turn signal, its in its ever predictable place, left side of the steering column. Push up to signal right, down to signal left.
If a Google design engineer borrowed a colleagues car and with keys in hand got in and had to scour the steering column, dashboard  and after 15 minutes of self-conscious searching, found the ignition between the two front seats and above the rear view mirror, finally starts the car, should he/she have to pull over the handbook, ever present in the glove box in front of the passangers front seat. Or, in a GOOGLE car, maybe not. Maybe he/she would have to look to a "QUICK FIND" card telling them that the glove box is in a drawer under the passenger seat, once there go to the index, look for for "HEADLIGHTS" to find the location of the switch and the same for the turn signal, wipers, horn and crank or button to roll down the windows at that point the driver would do what I reluctantly did with my browser, park it and take a cab assuming I could find the "DOOR OPEN" handle.  Feeling betrayed and in a rage I changed browsers but with the feeling I was leaving an old friend. After some thought I realized, I didn't leave them, they left ME!  But hey, the dashboard looked "Clean" didn't it?
Cars are made to be INTUITIVE. The driver should never have to look far in  a car, in order to drive it with minimal loss of efficiency.
Somewhere Google screwed up HUGELY. The Google I once knew would read the posts above and get to work offering me the OLD version browser with the power of the new. Or go to the new CHROME but NEVER make me feel irrelevant in their decision making. have yet to discuss this issue with ANYONE who finds CHROME an improvement.
I realize there are many at GOOGLE who would think, "Well, people LOVE change. Everyone loves going to work and finding the door where they enter has been moved. Everyone finds it cool to push the elevator button for the forth floor where they have worked every day for a decade opens to a new department and finding it fun going to the fifth, sixth, seventh etc. until they find where they work has been moved after a decade and certainly upon arriving at their desk, find someone else stuff on it and get to go desk to desk to find their own.  Surely everyone likes this kind of adventure."  Here is a dose of reality guys, NO COMPANY does this kind of thing to its followers without suffering a net loss to its credibility and an equally large loss of its former loyal followers. There was a time before CHROME that I would say GOOGLE would never get on the "STICKY WEB SITE" band wagon, line up with those who code their sites to make it as difficult as possible to leave, allow or build in code that forces its users to perform functions they otherwise would not do just to get them off their monitor. Now, I'm not sure what surprise is in store and not willing to stick around to find out. I  DO still use GOOGLE search. It has a quarter inch window at the top of my current browser.
In my considered...long considered opinion Google made the "NEW COKE" mistake rolling out a "NEW" Coke and removing from shelves all over the country, the COCA COLA that generations had grown to know and love. Surely someone there remembesr that fiasco . For those that don't remember, yeah they really did take COCA COLA off the market and put in its place the "NEW COKE" that was nothing like the old. Why? Because you can't fix STUPID. Some marketing genious decided COCA COLA's multi billion dollar success in the soft drink industry needed a change. I can just the marketing people in the executive lounge saying, "WELL, ITS CHANGE, EVERYBODY LOVES CHANGE...RIGHT"? The Coca Cola decision is now part of every marketing  text books across the country as the biggest FUBAR ever made by a multi-billion dollar company. The cry and hue that went up across the land, the media and customers loyal for years gave the COKE executives cause to ponder what they may have done wrong. They saw the affects of what they had done wrong inside thirty days when gross revenue went in the toilet and made them look like armatures in the public eye as the decisiton filled the treasury of their competitors.
But COKE senior executives, within sixty days had a steel set when it came to making things right. They actually did something no company its size had ever done. They fashioned and released commercials saying in effect, "We screwed up and won't do that again, thanks for teaching us that even in the soft drink world, there are is at least one thing sacred. We heard you loud and clear. Won't you join us in celebrating with a COKE...the REAL thing.!" In the background was a guy in suit and tie growing progressively more red in the face." Sometimes decisions are made by people insulated from what is really important to their customers/users and make a unilateral change in the belief that they know best because they conducted studies, have a college degree and work for a multi-billion dollar company I can imagine one or two people keeping their mouth shut during the developmental stages of CHROME while strongly fighting the urge to stand up and say: "Are you guys SERIOUS? YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS. MOVING THE "File / Edit / View / Bookmarks and Help" from the top left of the screen is NOT INTUITIVE. We will be the "COKE" of the new century...the EDSEL of the 1950's! Thats it, that is it! YOU GUYS CHANGE IT OR  I'M TELLING MOM ON YOU! We are the guys in the white hats and we just don't do MICROSOFTISH things." But sadly, no such voice prevailed.
GOOGLE'S decision was the "DUMBER"  half of "DUMB and DUMBER" and their credibility has been shaken to the foundation and there is no need to "TELL MOM ON YOU" Mom knows and MOM IS STILL "PISSED!"
Humble yourselves guys and get your browser share back. You know what you need to do. It is never too late to do what is right. As for your fans, we'll forgive and forget...as soon as we feel confident you guys won't mess with our INTUITIVE heads again.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? caver_tim 5/3/11 1:26 AM
Sorry I must admit that was such a long rant that i got bored after a page and gave up.


Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? StevePaul 5/3/11 1:47 AM
Knew there was a reason I still have alerts on some of the posts on this forum !!

If nothing else 'festusboozer' certainly deserves an award for the longest rant ever published on this forum ...

Unfortunately the 'FEV' argument is now 'old hat' (imo) and times have moved on ...

Certainly in the early days of Chrome the absence of a 'FEV' was a little disconcerting, but as with all things, give it a little time and you wonder what all the fuss was about ...

The current browser stats seem to indicatre that this is not such a big deal anymore ...

Of more concern to Chrome (I would suggest) and it's market share is that the other browsers are now adopting more and more of Chrome's innovative solutions and levellling the 'playing field' once again ..
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? yankeegrilz16 5/24/11 2:22 PM
1. click wrench
2. go to tools ( it is under print)
3. Click view source ( it is  under encoding)
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? oobuc5 6/6/11 5:13 AM
for years toolbars have been there to so choices can be made at a glance ,now some dude comes up with a browser that is minus any choices ,its like driving a car you look through the windscreen to see where your going then some dude  makes a car without windscreen but does put a tv screen in and you drive by cameras ,you could do it BUT YOU DONT WANT TO !

Im going back to firefox ,you dudes should have given this a little more logical thought
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Argus1127 6/18/11 10:21 AM
Make it better to use by hiding options like your book marks is not any help to me.  Google must be out of contact with it's user base!
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? javilg 6/18/11 11:21 PM
All this discussion reminds me of the "conversation view" issue in gmail forums some time ago. People just asking for at least an option to be able to turn that on or off as they pleased, and getting rather arrogant even unpolite answers, telling them to go back to hotmail, that they were stuck in the past, that this was the new thing, that it was way simpler, more logical, user friendly, that some research had been done and that nobody forced them to use gmail. Then I was shocked and pleased at the same time to see that in the end the gmail crew took heed and included the option to use whatever view you among their mail configuration settings.
It seemed to me that after all that disdain for the wishes of what was supposed to be a "bunch of troglodytes, just about 3% of their users", either they were not so few, their way to sort messages was not so illogical and old fashioned or they realised they were pushing aside a lot of possible users, which is what any company wants to have.
Although I'm the kind of person that likes a minimalistic interface, as I don't use a lot those missing menu items. I'm not the sort of person that tries to force other people to do it my way, when it is possible and not so difficult to please everybody. That is a rather, let me say, "fascist" way of doing things. Why is it so bad and inconceivable to give users a chance to customize this sort of things. I'd like to have a "re-open closed tabs" button, to easily re-open a tab that I have closed accidentally, or back again an easier access to the incognito window, that may work or not for other people, but I just can't see why making the browser more customizable, would make it a worse one.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Tomoya Kawasaki 7/8/11 11:41 AM
Hi everyone, 

Menu bookmarks are being implemented in the next version of Chrome. If you're can't wait for the release, you can test it out with Google Chrome Beta at the link below. 

In Beta, you can find bookmarks in Wrench > Bookmarks. Thanks. 

TK
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? glopony 7/11/11 10:35 AM
Go to bookmark manager, open up the folder you want and there will be your bookmarks...each link will have a downward pointing arrow at the end click on it...That will open the edit,cut.copy, open in new tab and all that good stuff...its not that heard....I don't understand all the useless comments.  was it to hard to help the man?
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? QQFarmer 7/11/11 10:54 AM
@glopony, read the OP's post again. Your solution is for a totally different problem.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? sussmanbern 7/16/11 12:56 PM
I very very much would like an option for the Google Chrome bookmarks to behave EXACTLY LIKE the IE8 favorites, among other things, files first loose URLs at the end, files open with the content directly beneath instead of in another column, when I return to the favorites list I am in the same file content as the previous look - I don't have to start from scratch with the files and the subfiles.

I would also like a print option that has the LOOK & FEEL of the IE8 - with print preview with control of the type size, etc.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? ra-zor 9/6/11 2:30 PM
It seems the higher the Level # is, the lower the reading comprehension in the above replies. I don't know what is so difficult for many to understand: people want options - especially in terms of their browser "view"

I have had a 24" wide screen since they came out and with Chrome I have a address box/filed that has to be 17 to 18" (+/-) long . Please do not try to tell me that there is not room for me to place some one-click buttons/icons to perform some regularly used functions and adjust that box/file down by more than half. Must be all the designers/engineers at Goggle only use tiny little screens, eh?  

IE and Chrome designers both seem to be boxed into a mindset that that they do not want anything "cluttering" up their browser - so we are not going to allow any of users to have "view / toolbar" options - "we don't like - so you shouldn't either" ????

Even though several elements of Chrome are nice, it is cumbersome and I rarely ever use it. I check it every once in a while thinking that maybe someone has had some sense and will decide to allow Chrome's "view" and functionality to be customized. Reminds me of some manufacturers, back a few decades ago, that had the mentality that 'we are going to design and build the products that we want - not what you (the consumer) want'.

To quote: "The traditional menu bar does not exist in Chrome (and probably never will)"  Judging by responses and my own feelings that applies to whether Chrome even gets used, or even stays on my HD. Probably never will.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? QQFarmer 9/6/11 9:18 PM
@ra-zor, Read OP's post again. The OP is NOT making a suggestion or requesting a feature. He's just asking where to locate the Menu Bar of Chrome, which has never existed and never will. The "people with higher levels" are just trying to answer the OP's question.  You should start a new thread in the "Suggestions" section to suggest or request new features. That way you would get more attention from the Chrome Development Team.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Tomoya Kawasaki 9/7/11 4:22 PM
Hi everyone, 

You can now find the bookmarks in the wrench menu -> bookmarks! 

Please see the referenced Help Center article for more information. If you have any more feedback, please feel free to respond. 

Thanks,
TK
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? sensible1 9/12/11 2:59 PM
Some of the posts here....wait a minute most of the post here were STUPID and FRUSTRATING...The original question once again was...HOW TO GET TO THE FILE MENU....DOGGGG!!!!  This question needs to get deleted it is very misleading trying to find an answer to that question...I read all of this crap trying to find an answer.....FUDGE BOOKMARKS!!!!!  The doggone question is not about friggin bookmarks!!!
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? wdknight 9/16/11 12:36 PM
Man is this string frustrating. I am not an engineer or a programmer. I just want to be able to easily access the capabilities that I find in the traditional file, print edit functions. I love Google Chrome and I love Google but how the decision was made to do away with this functionality or make it impossible to find blows my mind.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? caver_tim 9/16/11 4:30 PM
Lets run though a design experiment.
If we take a look at a "traditional" web browser we see

File Edit Tools Help
< > R H [http://www.cnn.com                    *]

ie you have the menu bar, lots of wasted space to the right of it, then you have the forward/back/reload/home buttons and address bar. 

Why not save some space by moving the menus to the right of the address bar, like this.
< > R H [http://www.cnn.com              *]   File Edit Tools Help

Why not save even more space by reducing 4 headers to 1 ?
< > R H [http://www.cnn.com                    *]   Menu

why not save a bit more by replacing the word "menu" by a little icon. "menu" looks weird anyway
< > R H [http://www.cnn.com                    *]   #


which is what chrome is now using.
lets do some click analysis (assuming you don't use a keyboard shortcut / icon)

Function         clicks with menu bar (IE 7)     clicks in chrome

Copy text            2                                           2
print page            2                                           2
view history         3                                           2
Save Page          2                                            2
View source        2                                            3

How about if you don't want to use the mouse to access menus?

Exit                <alt> F  X                      <alt>+F X
new tab          <alt> F T                        <alt>+F T
Print               <alt> F P                       <alt>+F P
browse menus <alt>  <down>               <alt>  <down>

Really nothing in it apart from "it looks a bit different".
Uses the same / similar number of clicks and uses less screen space


You start up Chrome then go "how do i print" to which the reply is, "click on the spanner icon". 
"how do i get to zoom" - "click on the spanner icon"
"How do I get to options " - "click on the spanner icon"

Once you either discover for yourself, or someone tells you that the menus are under the icon, is it really that hard?
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Frank Stevens 9/17/11 12:45 PM
Since when does "innovation" require the user to find their own solutions to simple issues?  Bookmarks under the wrench is not the same as having a bookmark tab.  They do the same with Gmail.  Creating labels or doing a search is not the same as sorting mail by sender name.  

I compare this to buying a car and asking about its sound system:
"Does it have a six-CD changer?"
"No, but you can achieve the same thing--even better--by putting one CD in the player, and then leave 50 of them on the passenger seat. When you want change your music, just eject the one you want and then reach over and put a new one in. It's essentially the same."
No it isn't.

I love so much of Chrome and Gmail, but I don't understand why they have eliminated some fairly basic features that are not accomplished in a more convenient way than previous formats.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? caver_tim 9/17/11 1:00 PM
The bookmarks are available from the bookmarks bar, and now from (admittedly a bit far down) the menu system, also (by installing an extension) from a menu appearing from an extension icon 
Given that, removing the "traditional" Bookmarks menu was probably deemed a small enough problem given the advantages of less screen real estate and a more simple UI 

If you know enough to really want a bookmark menu, you'll probably have enough knowledge to install an extension.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? dzierhart 9/24/11 12:17 PM
It is not just the bookmarks I want, that's simple enough, there should be an option to view other toolbars as wanted etc.. not very satisfactory solutions..
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? caver_tim 9/25/11 2:53 PM
ok . Chrome is designed to give you the maximum space on screen to view web pages.
Thus no "File Edit View" etc menus and no toolbars.

Also in my experience most "toolbars" are either spyware or allow you to "search the web". Since this is is normally redundant since modern browsers either have a search box or allow  you to search from the address bar, its simply a way to make money off you by serving advertising links / syndicated search..


Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? justacrazymom 10/26/11 3:02 PM
I don't install add-on toolbars - ever. But I most definitely want the ease of the menu bar. I don't care what Chrome says, the "wrench" does NOT give you all the options of the good old tried-and-true menu bar. I am very much missing a couple of options: (1) resize print; (2) share - via email or whatever; (3) save to desktop. These are the ones that come to mind immediately - I'm sure there are other functions - again VERY BASIC FUNCTIONS (if that's not asking too much) that really should be readily and easily available if the user wants to put them there. Shouldn't it be OUR decision whether the viewable  screen area is reduced by that miniscule amount?

If these happen to be somewhere that I haven't yet discovered, I'd love to know. But if that's the case, what's the us of a program where you spend so much time digging out basic functions and waste what should be productive time (I use the internet for our business and I don't have that kind of time).

As to the comments I've seen to "RTFM" -- would that "manual" by the wrench icon? I did hit F1 and searched through so many posts, which is how I ended up here, and have yet to find what I'm looking for. Quit blowing people off by calling them whiners who haven't tried to find the answer themselves.

I think Chrome would be an amazing product if they'd only listen to the end users.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? caver_tim 10/27/11 1:37 AM
justacrazymom > Even if we put the traditional menu bar back, those functions would not be there.
Those functions being missing is a different issue.

Share by email - try installing this extension


Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? SthrnDixieCwgrl 10/28/11 9:29 AM
When I installed Google Chrome the Menu Bar was there by default.  I did not install anything extra.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? StevePaul 10/28/11 10:07 AM
Long time since I've been here, but still have links to threads I was originally interested in (sad I know !) ...

Anyway suffice to say it's still the same old, same old ...

People still haven't grasped the over riding principle behind Chrome, a clean, crisp browser with a minimal interface ...

For far too long people have been spoilt with browsers including every bell and whistle known to man and now see them as being 'basic' to any browsers functionality ...

When I first started using Chrome (Day 1, or thereabouts) a lot of these criticisms were valid as there were no such thing as extensions AND it was indeed a bit of a 'culture shock', especially not having FEV !!

Having said all this I have to admit I no longer use Chrome and have reverted to FF, simply because there is one thing that is not available in Chrome that I use quite extensively and I don't believe in having different browsers for different functions ...

There's also another more fundamental reason (to do with loyalty) ...
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Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? StevePaul 10/28/11 10:09 AM
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? handsomeorlandoman 11/21/11 8:26 PM
@StevePaul

<Having said all this I have to admit I no longer use Chrome and have reverted to FF, simply because there is one thing that is not available in Chrome that I use quite extensively and I don't believe in having different browsers for different functions ...>

I'm wondering what would that "one thing" be. It could be just a hidden feature, perhaps?

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Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? StevePaul 11/22/11 12:42 AM
Quite simply 'DownloadHelper' ...

NB

I was one of the original TC's on this forum until Google in their infinite wisdom decided to withdraw my status !
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? handsomeorlandoman 11/22/11 6:48 AM
Hmm, DownloadHelper is a tricky one, but I normally recommend  SaveFrom.net helper lite [1] and YouTube Downloader [2] as alternatives.

Of course, if you want to keep using Firefox, then do so. With the huge change in web browsers today, I'm sure the latest version has become way cooler than it was before. After all, it is a free country. :-)

<I was one of the original TC's on this forum until Google in their infinite wisdom decided to withdraw my status !>

I saw your status before Google apparently decided to split the number of TCs in half. Might be because you haven't been posting around as much as before, which is why they decided to remove the "top" contributor label from some previous posters. (Jacky told me that TCs could lose their status if they stop posting as often.)

Thanks!
handsomeorlandoman
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? gregparsns 12/7/11 11:04 AM
>StevePaul The anacronym RTFM comes to mind ...
Seriously, I need a manual for a browser? Gawd I hope not. That is so 1994.

>azazal88 The whole point of google chrome is to make the browsing experience simpler..
                 Thats why the additional buttons do not exist..
Epic Fail there...

Google Chrome Team might I suggest the book http://amzn.to/sJb8Nm  "Don't Make Me Think".
Apple is the king of UI and as they state in their guide:
Use UI Elements Consistently
People expect standard views and controls to look and behave consistently across applications.
Follow the recommended usages for standard user interface elements.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? SthrnDixieCwgrl 12/7/11 12:27 PM
They do exist in the version of Google Chrome I am using which is 15.0.874.121
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? caver_tim 12/7/11 4:03 PM
SthrnDixieCwgrl > you have a File Edit Tools menu?

Can i see a screen shot?

Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? SthrnDixieCwgrl 12/7/11 4:06 PM
cave_troll> The next time I log into Mac OS X I will send you one.  It is native for Google Chrome on that OS.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? handsomeorlandoman 12/7/11 4:44 PM
Ah, yes, only Chrome for Mac (and some newer versions of Linux distributions have a menu bar)

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Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? david.king 12/7/11 5:43 PM
To add to what handsomeorlandoman said, I think it's not part of Chrome but a part of the OS.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? handsomeorlandoman 12/7/11 5:50 PM
@daaaveeeee, thanks for adding. :-)
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? caver_tim 12/8/11 1:21 AM
ah a Mac user :-)
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Deffender 12/8/11 7:15 AM
Hey! I'm a mac user too, what are you implying Cave_troll? :P
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? handsomeorlandoman 12/8/11 7:36 AM
Haha, it's because this discussion is mainly about Windows and Linux distributions that don't have a universal menu bar.

handsomeorlandoman
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? SthrnDixieCwgrl 12/8/11 7:59 AM
I have 2 systems which one of them is a MacBook Pro with Mac OS X 10.7.2 and Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 and the other is an HP Notebook with Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Service Pack 1 and Ubuntu 11.10
 
I don't like Google Chrome very much since it does not give me the option to alert me that there is an update and let me choose if I want to upgrade at that time or not like I can with Firefox.  I can do this with Firefox whether it's  the Mac OS X version or Windows version.  Also with Firefox there is no web installer which means no corrupt installs like Google Chrome does with a web installer.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? handsomeorlandoman 12/8/11 9:41 AM
Auto-update is the way Chrome makes sure you are up to date with the latest fixes and features. Also, (at least on Windows), Firefox does use a web installer. Chrome offline installer is available at [1].

Thanks!
handsomeorlandoman
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? SthrnDixieCwgrl 12/8/11 7:24 PM
I don't like programs that auto-update without asking if I want to download and install the update first.  Also Firefox does not use a web installer since the file that is downloaded is over 10MB in size which means it can be used as an offline installer as well.  Therefore Firefox does not use a web installer unless you are using the update feeature.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? handsomeorlandoman 12/8/11 7:46 PM
Just because the installer is larger than size doesn't mean it is the offline installer. And some users reported that disabling the Google Update plugin at about:plugins prevents Chrome for auto updating. However, this is not recommended as this leaves you open to security risks and threats online.

Thanks!
handsomeorlandoman
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? SthrnDixieCwgrl 12/9/11 1:47 PM
I know for a fact that Firefox does not use web installers and it is the offline installer.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? handsomeorlandoman 12/9/11 2:53 PM
If Firefox takes up 200 MB of your hard drive, the installer cannot possibly be an offline installer if it is 10 MB. There probably is an offline installer available for Firefox; at least Chrome does if you want to install offline. [2]

handsomeorlandoman
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Phred_E 12/9/11 10:22 PM
Dear Handsome Narcissus, 

"..If Firefox takes up 200 MB of your hard drive" - is perfectly true.  However, it doesn't.  Mine, for instance, takes up 39 megs, and that of course is with everything decompressed out of the installer.

However, does it matter?  Let's stay on-topic.

Chrome is offering the 'clean' paradigm, and democracy doesn't mean that everyone can have it the way they want it.  And, indeed, it isn't a democracy, this thing.
If you're not adaptive, stay out of the kitchen.. so to speak.
Some people drive (logically) on the left-hand side of the road; some people belligerently drive on the right.  Adapt.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? handsomeorlandoman 12/11/11 4:27 AM
Hmm, I suppose we are back to talking about the menu bar. But think of it this way, as cave_troll mentioned.

Quoted from cave_troll's post earlier in this discussion:

Everything that would traditionally be under a "File Edit Tools" menu system is available under the the spanner icon. If its not there (like print preview) it would not be under the file menu either. 
So why did Google do this?
Lets run though a design experiment.
If we take a look at a "traditional" web browser we see

File Edit Tools Help
< > R H [http://www.cnn.com                    *]

ie you have the menu bar, lots of wasted space to the right of it, then you have the forward/back/reload/home buttons and address bar. 

Why not save some space by moving the menus to the right of the address bar, like this.
< > R H [http://www.cnn.com              *]   File Edit Tools Help

Why not save even more space by reducing 4 headers to 1 ?
< > R H [http://www.cnn.com                    *]   Menu

why not save a bit more by replacing the word "menu" by a little icon. "menu" on its onwn looks weird anyway
< > R H [http://www.cnn.com                    *]   #


which is what chrome is now using.

Just an update to that post that Chrome now does have print preview. At the time of the post it didn't though.

So think of that wrench as just one menu, since there isn't too much that has to be in a menu bar, right? Most of the buttons you need are on the toolbar, so no need to put it again under the menu. Then space can be saved and all the menus can be fused into one.

Thanks!
handsomeorlandoman
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? caver_tim 12/11/11 1:16 PM
like the windows start menu replaced the "File Edit View" and icons in Windows 3.1 Program manager back in 1995
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Phred_E 12/12/11 10:03 PM
Yep. Nice analysis, Narc, and well remembered, Troll.

In fact, Lazarus Long said it well some time ago, in his usual pithy and wistful manner:

"People don’t really want change, any change at all — and xenophobia is very deep-rooted. But we progress, as we must - if we are to go out to the stars."
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? SKMarK 2/26/12 4:38 AM
There is still a problem with all this "making chrome 'better'" stuff.
OK, I understand the single menu philosophy to save on "realestate" but the menu layout sucks and is inadequate.
Example: I do web development and I am always opening files that are stored locally on my computer for review and adjustments, etc. Chrome doesn't have a menu item to "OPEN" files from my computer. The only way I can do it is to drag the file from an already opened folder to the browser window. Chrome doesn't even add a context menu option to "Open with Chrome" when I right click on the file. In order to do that I have to "select the default program" to use to open that type of file and because of chromes lack of ease to use I would never select as the default program to do that. On install of chrome it asks if I want to ad it to the context menu and I said yes but the only thing that does is add it to the "frequently used programs" list on the start menu. It doesn't add it to the right click context menu.
What is really frustrating is that I spent 2 hours this morning sifting though pages of "Help" documents and forum posts only to find that what I need isn't available UNLESS I own a Mac. How stupid is that???  It's no wonder Chrome hasn't become a recognized browser of quality.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? david.king 2/26/12 8:47 AM
+SKMarK. In some ways I agree with you but you can always use the keyboard shortcut Ctrl + O to open files in Chrome. 
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? meshane 2/26/12 9:49 AM
+daaaveeeee - In some ways I agree with you, but then agen SKMark spent two hours looking for that solution and didn't find it, which would take less than 1 second to find on any other browser.  There is no way that's good design.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? FREEMAN 4/6/12 12:59 PM
Sorry man, Google Chrome Internet Browser is the best ever. 8-)
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? pattyw96 6/25/12 10:36 PM
im tired of searching thru all this junkle of chit chat...can you open a new file from the chrome search bar??????? all i found was "drag it from your desktop"...ummmmm.....not very convenient to do. i just want the button to open a new file from my computer....thats all im asking.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? pattyw96 6/25/12 10:38 PM
well..of coarse..after i post..i find the answer...."ctl o"    how the hell am i suppose to know that?????????????????????????????????????????
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? frostyfrog 7/28/12 11:49 AM
Um... search for google chrome shortcuts? https://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=157179
Also, you could always type in file:// into the omnibox then browse to the file.


I don't know what is up with everyone, Google has a tutorial that opens when you first open the browser.... https://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=157179 then there is always the help page at the top... http://support.google.com/chrome/?hl=en

Google is, IMO, the best browser in the world! With people saying google chrome is more "geekier" than other browsers is like saying a GUI is "geekier" than the command line, both of which are false. I know people who aren't geeky at all and they prefer google chrome any other browser, so why is google chrome hard and not user friendly?

Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? MyGinny1938 11/11/12 12:13 PM
How do I get to my file menu in Google Chrome?
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? caver_tim 11/13/12 3:57 AM
There is no "File" menu in Chrome.
Every menu item that would normally under File or Edit or View or Tools or Help is under the menu button top right  
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Matt Houghton 12/5/12 10:36 AM
I love Chrome *except* for the fact that there's no menu bar. I use Mac and PC on a regular basis and I want to have as common an experience across the two as possible. And VERY other piece of software has a menu bar that you can use and access via tab/enter/alt keys when things go wrong with pointer devices. Bad omission IMO. If you don't want it there by default, fine. But at least make it as simple as right click on the toolbar and select 'show menu'. That's the way to do user friendly design: configure it how you like it, and then allow the user to customise.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? caver_tim 12/6/12 2:16 AM
All the normal keyboard shortcuts still work
<alt>+F   - drops down the menu
<alt>+E   - drops down the menu

<alt> highlights the menu then Arrow keys let you drop down and navigate
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Carol Parker 1/13/13 7:24 AM
But I don't have a wrench icon ... I've got this stupid incredimail under the place where there is gmail-compose - yahoo mail ...wild tangent games and imported from IE  at the end of that line is other bookmarks.  above that on the far right side is a star, another incredimail envelope and three parallel lines.  No WRENCH!!  
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Carol Parker 1/13/13 8:21 AM
Well, what do you know I managed to cut and paste with the ALT F command ... thank you.  It's a bit tedious but it did work.
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? caver_tim 1/13/13 10:58 AM
the wrench icon was replaced by the more generic menu icon  
incrediamail sounds like you've installed a 3rd party extension
If  you don't want it click on  ≡ then tools then extensions and disabled it from there 
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? Foundry Graphics 1/28/13 6:14 PM
Google seems to be doing everything in its power to alienate its users - the option to search based on image size in Google Images and the lack of common menus in Chrome are a real pain in the ass.

Every program I use has the file, edit, view, help, etc menus along the top. Everyone knows how that all works - it's just the standard way of doing things which is simple and it works.

It's not that people are unwilling to learn, or incapable of adapting. It's just that, in my particular case - a small business owner - my computer is a tool, nothing more. Every annoying little change I have to get my head around costs me time I don't have and stress I don't need. The Google Images thing for instance has caused me no end of unnecessary difficulty and so I now don't use it. The lack of standard menus in Chrome is also a nuisance which is causing me to want to ditch Chrome and go back to Firefox.

It's a shame, because I really like Chrome.

If anyone from Google comes on here and reads these comments I hope they will stop letting the geeks 'play around' and focus on delivering the TOOL that Google is supposed to be - we're mostly just ordinary people with fairly simple needs

Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? BluGinhm 2/7/13 7:32 AM
So it's more annoyingly less simple when I can't do with it what I could do when I had my toolbar!
Re: Where is File /Edit / view / Bookmarks menu in Google chrome ? BluGinhm 2/7/13 7:39 AM
I used IE for a long time because I was more comfortable with it.  Now I use a combination of IE and Chrome, since Chrome will open links the IE refuses.  But then I'll place the opened link back in IE because I want my file-edit toolbar!
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