| Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | easymoney1972 | 12/14/09 9:21 AM | If anyone doubts Youtube would fraud it's users and sponsors I would ask them to consider the following. Last night while browsing videos I came across a certain T-Pain video 3 weeks old with 38 million views, and 9 comments two of which were asking |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | JDoors | 12/14/09 10:56 AM | "... you will see ... some videos having millions of views the instant they're uploaded." Interesting. Good thing I don't care about views or I'd be pissed. |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | epontius | 12/14/09 1:57 PM | Where is this video? I don't know if you noticed, but YouTube went through some lengths and a lot of bad feedback because they changed their counting system to prevent fraud and gaming of the views counter. |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | epontius | 12/14/09 3:07 PM | @IndoorSeesaw Good point... |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | easymoney1972 | 12/14/09 7:09 PM | Just do the experiment. |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | epontius | 12/14/09 8:05 PM | What's the experiment? If I go here: http://www.youtube.com/videos?s=pop and refresh the page a few times...I see the same videos...the top video was uploaded 3 days ago and has around 640k views. |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | ebbixx | 12/14/09 9:21 PM | Is this the one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWBE0sQC5L8 |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | easymoney1972 | 12/15/09 12:11 AM | I'm sorry I should have said "most recent" videos. If you set up a screen capture and macro to refresh the page for a couple hours you will see views added in chunks of thousands. Visit this link, do the math and see if this adds up. http://www.youtu |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | easymoney1972 | 12/15/09 1:13 AM | BTW Go to any and all Fred videos, for all the positive comments click on the channel from whence it came. You will find 2/3 of them share a common trait: 0 uploads and 2 or 3 favorited videos most sponsored with more than 500 thousand views. Then go |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | easymoney1972 | 12/15/09 1:28 AM | @IndoorSeeSaw so, VEVO transferred his views but not his comments? |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | JDoors | 12/15/09 7:45 AM | "... If you set up a screen capture and macro to refresh the page for a couple hours you will see views added in chunks of thousands. Visit this link, do the math and see if this adds up. http://www.youtube.com/user/Hyldig87 One of the 2 videos on th |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | ebbixx | 12/15/09 7:52 AM | On the other hand, claques have been around since the time of Nero. The only difference now being that you don't necessarily need to hire individuals to be the claqueurs. |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | JDoors | 12/15/09 10:11 AM | |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | easymoney1972 | 12/15/09 11:39 AM | @JDoors Okay, so what we have here is a channel with 2 uploads and 20 subscribers generated 396 thousand enique views? In 24 hours? |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | JDoors | 12/15/09 11:48 AM | Don't forget that whatever the view counts are, YouTube stops them at some point to allow whatever they determine to be valid views to catch up to the automated count. Even if you game the system, it checks your views and stalls them until they catch |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | faberoptime | 12/15/09 12:35 PM | @ebbixx - a shrewd point (and as an etymologist, thanks for the term!). I think you put your finger on the crux of it - there's an obvious distinction between folk behaving in that way and non-human accounts doing the same. Surely the latter isn't le |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | easymoney1972 | 12/15/09 12:37 PM | @JDoors Precisely, the counter results are purely analytical. Ultimately the final results are at the webmaster's discretion. So, in instances where the views are quite obviously fake Youtube makes the final decision. Some would be entirely trusting |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | epontius | 12/15/09 1:24 PM | I think you could be playing the IF and conspiracy game for a long time. Fred has over 1 million subscribers. If only 10% of those subscribers view his video...he still has 100k views...not very hard to get hundreds of thousands of views within a sho |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | easymoney1972 | 12/15/09 2:01 PM | @faberoptime http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt2wjJlP2N4 And to show some consistancy this one has 71 million views, 105 ratings, 85 comments.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNII9PDlFJ0 |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | easymoney1972 | 12/15/09 2:58 PM | @epontius "You could also make the case that some unscrupulous scammer/spammer sets up some sort of automated system to create bogus accounts, subscribe and make comments on Fred's videos...not because they are in cahoots with a Fred/YouTube conspira |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | easymoney1972 | 12/18/09 12:00 AM | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLEAYS6MneE |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | faberoptime | 1/12/10 2:15 PM | Let's get this fixed! As per here: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/youtube/PKJx/~3/nXFazRp6LL0/spring-cleaning-comes-early-to-youtube.html You may like to express your view about what should be done about this ongoing problem. Based upon (too much! |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | BlinkxbBlues | 1/13/10 5:21 AM | "... you will see ... some videos having millions of views the instant they're uploaded." Good point. I'm pretty sure that channels like Britain's Got Talent and X-Factor UK don't get 1 half a million views in 3 minutes. I bet they put they're vide |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | crisdeli | 4/23/10 1:31 PM | Hi everyone, There's nothing wrong with the way YouTube counts the views. When the official releases of the videos were transferred from YouTube to Vevo they passed the counters along so that they wouldn't reset all videos. The stupid thing is that |
| Re: Does Youtube think we're stupid? (fake views) | megabug7 | 4/23/10 1:52 PM | This video contains content from Vevo, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds :( |