| Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | businesstrader | 8/19/12 4:28 AM | After receiving a manual penalty, I have been cleaning up my link profile since March, and so far we have removed many inorganic links. After 3 or more requests, currently 273 links still remain, due to the webmasters ignoring my emails. The majority |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | fathom | 8/19/12 5:30 AM | Report precisely what actions you have taken to Google in your reconsideration request. They can negate links of this nature provided you have made an honest attempt to rectify the situation. Don't just write/talk about what you have done (talk is ch |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | Marie Haynes | 8/19/12 8:43 AM | Exactly. Can you share with us how much detail you gave in your (failed) reconsideration requests? Did you simply say that you contacted webmasters or did you give proof? Also, are you sure that you have a thorough list of your backlinks? Sometim |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | businesstrader | 8/19/12 3:55 PM | In the failed reconsideration attempts, I was simply showing the list of inorganic urls I could find in 1 column, and then the list of removed urls in another.......This time around I have included a much more detailed report including: inorganic ur |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | businesstrader | 8/20/12 3:21 AM | In the warnings I got in the past from the Google Web Spam Team I have been advised that all links can be found in the Google Webmaster Tools. At that point I began manually the process of links evaluation and removal, and later I found the tool 'R |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | Webnauts | 8/20/12 4:11 AM | If Fathom is right about that sort of evidence, I think you missed something. If you can't find the emails of the webmasters and you need to request a link removal, but they still have a contact form on their site, you should fill out the contact for |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | cristina | 8/20/12 4:22 AM | I simply do not know if the team that reads the reconsideration requests has the time to look at all those screenshots or email headers, (but I would guess it is a good idea for you to keep them anyway.)I think it makes sense to check if the pages co |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | businesstrader | 8/20/12 4:51 AM | To highlight the lengths I have gone to, to make sure my profile is 100% clean, I even did the following: In an email from Google, they gave me example urls highlighting my links which they considered unnatural or inorganic. They were very high qual |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | cristina | 8/20/12 5:41 AM | Are your two sites very similar? If the only difference is that they are intended for different countries (but otherwise similar in content), try link hreflang alternate, see http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=189077 But |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | Webnauts | 8/20/12 6:07 AM | @cristina the original poster shared with me the links of both of his web sites. They have a totally different design/layout, also both have completely unique content. Nothing identical at all. Hope this info clarifies any questions or doubts. And my |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | Geminineil | 8/20/12 6:14 AM | businesstrader Having worked for the past 4 months trying to get backlinks removed I have now decided to call it a day. What would have helped not only webmasters but also Google would be if they were to specify EXACTLY what type of links that need t |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | GaryJJ127 | 8/20/12 7:43 AM | What I cannot understand is why Google can't install a disavow option on backlinks. What's to say someone just wants to create spammy links to your site to demote your rankings? If this happens you have to go through an extremely long and time consum |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | ViranteMarketing | 8/20/12 8:30 AM | There are quite a few reasons why Google may have a problem with a disavow tool... 1. Checking the trillions of links Google knows about to determine if it happens to have been disavowed is incredibly difficult. It is more likely the disavow status |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | Lysis | 8/20/12 9:21 AM | ^^ Thank you. For anyone who thinks creating something like that is a walk in the park, you are clueless about the web and programming. |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | Ashley | 8/20/12 9:34 AM | Hm. Is Phil now posting as Virante? Was the site ever posted by the original poster? It's one thing to clean up links and try to remove the manual penalty, but I'm curious about the actual content and site strategy. Those may hold back rankings as we |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | Webnauts | 8/20/12 12:52 PM | @Ashley I doubt that he has any on-page issues. In the first warning he got Google warned about on-pages issues which he have found and eliminated and by the next warnings was no more mentioned. Here is the URL of his web site: http://www.business-t |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | GaryJJ127 | 8/20/12 3:00 PM | I hadn't really thought of people using spammy links to game other search engines. I would imagine the majority of people who link farm are targeting google based on the way their algorithm works. I could however be talking out of my arse, as you hav |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | businesstrader | 8/20/12 5:20 PM | I would also like to hear from a 'typcial' webmaster who has actually recovered from Penguin or OOP (over optimization penalty). Google needs to be more upfront! Its bad enough that businesses have been destroyed over night, but to then allow us webm |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | 1918 (deprecated) | 8/21/12 12:25 PM | Nope, I'm still just me :-) |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | businesstrader | 8/22/12 5:10 AM | So today I submitted my final reconsideration request (after my last request was ignored approx 4 weeks ago). I have outlined all measures taken over the past several months in order to clean up the inorganic links to the best of my ability and also |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | Webnauts | 8/22/12 5:27 AM | I would like to ask you if you would not mind sharing with us a copy of your re-inclusion request you submitted today (if you still have a copy), so we can also tell if you probably missed anything. |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | businesstrader | 8/22/12 5:30 AM | Ok, no problem. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R8CMAqXKdkPgP_rY73RI2AbuusCF5pUbh9ze684dnII/edit Thanks in advance. |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | Geminineil | 8/22/12 6:14 AM | Having spent the majority of my time over the past 4 months emailing webmasters, re-emailing and emailing again etc and for the reconsideration request to come back again with the standard response I have decided to take the bull by the horns and mov |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | Webnauts | 8/22/12 12:32 PM | I hope you know that two of the four tools you are using www. linkdelete. com and www. linkresearchtools. com suck big time! Do you agree? |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | businesstrader | 8/22/12 3:06 PM | Geminineil, I can't argue with your comments and I totally agree. My GWT is also displaying links which were removed 'MONTHS' ago, which doesn't help my situation. In regards to starting over, I just can't walk from it yet. After 8 years of stea |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | Christoph C. Cemper | 8/23/12 7:20 AM | |
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| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | businesstrader | 8/23/12 2:47 PM | |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | 1918 (deprecated) | 8/24/12 6:22 AM | |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | DaMan | 8/24/12 6:43 AM | |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | 1918 (deprecated) | 8/24/12 8:00 AM | |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | Marie Haynes | 8/24/12 8:06 AM | |
| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | fathom | 8/24/12 8:07 AM | |
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| Re: Are Over-Optimization & Link Spam Penalties Permanent? | businesstrader | 8/25/12 5:26 AM | |
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