|Tour de France 2006: All Stages! LIVE||lucifer666||5/4/06 1:12 AM|
All the stages of this year Tour de France.
Complete with exact route for each stage, including the route of the pre-start.
Waypoints for all the Feature on the stage with Sprint, Mountain points and ravitaillement.
You can use the Play-Tour option to follow the route.
During the race there was also live coverage of the race with a network link.
The position of the different groups of cyclists where plotted on the route in real time. This feature has been removed now because the race is over.
See you all next year for the Tour de France 2007 Live on this channel
|Placemark holder for the above posting||lucifer666||5/5/06 6:45 AM|
|Re: Tour de France 2006 Stages 1 to 9, 11 and 15||lucifer666||5/14/06 11:18 PM|
The main geocoding is done for the first 11 stages.
routing is done by linking the waypoints with a straight line.
next step will be the geocoding of the waypoints for the other stages.
After this I wil refine the routing to match the road path.
And here a request to the comunity: Detail information needed for start and finish locations. The routing from the real start to the entrance of the arrival town can be computed quite accurately. the exact course for the arrival must be found on other web sites.
Please if you find some details on the web, please forward a link to me for including the information in my placemark.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||lucifer666||5/21/06 7:08 AM|
All stages of this year tour de France are done.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||Frank4||5/25/06 5:35 AM|
Nice work 'lucifer666'! I've written a blog story linking to your TdF network link at Google Earth Blog.
Read the story here.
|Re: Placemark holder for the above posting||Scotty_72||5/25/06 8:42 PM|
can't get it to work
I have the latest update
I download and open the file, it loads GE but nothing happens.
Fetch of networklink "tour de France 2006" Failed
Parse error: Invalid document structure at line 1
|Re: Placemark holder for the above posting||lucifer666||5/26/06 1:05 AM|
Sorry to hear you have problems,
Can you please detail what went wrong. Is it loading the Network link that failed or is it the refresh of the Network link??
Are you using the Win or Mac version of GE?
Also, try to download the placemark from the second post of this thread (That is in fact the file fetched by the network link).
Sometimes I observed the BBS site answer is a bit slow, thus provoking a temporary error in the network link.
I checked from my side and got no error.
Please report back.
|Re: Placemark holder for the above posting||Scotty_72||5/27/06 5:55 AM|
here is the screen-shot
got the second placemark
|Re: Placemark holder for the above posting||Scotty_72||5/27/06 6:27 AM|
What happened (in case others have the same issue)
I downloaded the first file, then saw the post to get the newer one.
Once I cleared the cache it was fine
obvious thing I overlooked
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||lucifer666||5/29/06 7:22 AM|
Here some information obaut how the route for this year Tour de France where created.
The core information is published of the site www.letour.fr.
That is basically a long list of cities, villages and road crossings. there is also an information on which road they are on. (Well all in French but thats how i grew up…)
Coordinates for this list of places are taken from a navigation programm, in this case Viamichelin.
This is the list you can find under the “Waypoints” folder in each stage.
The i use the driving directions from google earth to link the different places. So I do not even have to draw the track myself…
Finally i analyse the resulting track at www.gpsvisualizer.com to find out the length of the track.
So basically I use different resources to combine the available information. Some being only available recently (driving directions from GE and GPSvisualizer).
To refine the work I upgraded to GE-Plus to be able to edit the resulting track within GE with more confort.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||joernc||6/25/06 11:03 AM|
I have done my own version of the TDF 2006 stages, see
Within minutes this was spotted by lucifer666, mentioning that he already had published tracks back in may. I saw his post, but decided to upload my version nonetheless, because
But lucifer666 noticed some differences between our tracks, and asked me to join this discussion. Maybe I simply start by explaining how I made my upload:
That's essentialy it.
Concerning the differences between lucifer666's and my tracks: Sometimes my data seems to be better (for example in stage 6), and sometimes I think lucifer666 has it right (e.g. the finish of stage 1).
Oh, one more thing about lucifer666's placemarks: Most of the accented letters are broken in Google Earth. The KML file contains Latin 1 characters, but the XML declaration says UTF-8. Either actually use this encoding, or change the declaration to "ISO-8859-1".
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||lucifer666||6/26/06 11:36 PM|
Thanks for showing up here and thanks for your comment.
I know you published yours, yours, yours, and that is good like this,
when I published mine it was also because it's mine, mine, mine!
Regarding the encoding, thanks for the tip. I had no time to care about it until now and description is generated through a small script not taking care of encoding and not able to do any conversion.
My work is still under construction. You will notice some tracks have snooth tracks following exactly the roads (these are finished) and others are more like yours (under construction).
I plan to discard unnecessary information or put it in a separate placemark to make my version smaller.
My main idea is however to get the most accurate track information as possible as this will be the base for live tracking of the race.
I will grab real time progress information from the web (normally km from start) and find the corresponding location on the track to update a network link, say every 20-30 seconds.
So basically there are 2 tasks to be completed:
1) finish the tracks.
(Here your help is much apreciated by reporting errors in the tracks)
2) Find the best live ticker to grap position information.
( Give me a hint!)
for 2) we have to consider that I am not able to extract information from a Flash site, which most are. So if you have a way of extracting the content of a website in flash, tell me.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||hgalca||6/27/06 12:16 AM|
I recommend the live coverage of eurosport.com. You can see as an example the coverage of Giro d'Italia or Tour of Switzerland.
I think they'll keep the same format for TdF, so you can prepare in advance.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||lucifer666||7/1/06 4:58 PM|
Saturday the prologue has taken place in Strasbourg.
Today we start the first stage over 185 km, mostly flat.
The network link has been updated to include the live tracking red bicycle. (No need to download the placemark from the first post again, You are getting the changes automatically!)
You should see the red bike sitting near the 5 km mark on the track.
It is showing a timestamp at 1:47:30, which is the time of the last test...
From 12:55 you should see the timestamp follow the actual time (in France)
and when actual position information is available from the letour.fr you will see it move.
I hope all you 20 000 folks having downloaded hte placemark can enjoy the race and that the server will manage the load.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||hgalca||7/2/06 6:35 AM|
Live TDF is not working for me:
If I try the link in Internet Explorer it gives me a 403 page with the text: "Keine Berechtigung.
Richte auch du Deine kostenlose Homepage beim kostenlosen Webspace bei Funpic.de ein."
Same happens if I click the link in your signature.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||rilkeanhearts||7/2/06 6:57 AM|
Thanks for doing this, Lucifer... I love to watch the progress live on Google Earth while I watch the Tour on tv.
Is there any way to change the default viewing angle on my computer for the live tracking? I like to be a little bit more zoomed out and from higher up.
Not sure if I can change it or if that is something hard coded in the live tracking.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||lucifer666||7/2/06 9:34 AM|
Thanks for Feedback.
The view is coded directly in the network link refreshed every 20 seconds.
So if you want to change the view, you need to be dam fast...
I was thinking in implementing diferent views to chose from but i do not have a solution yet.
Sorry to hear you had trouble, unfortunately the server (a free hosting offer) seems to be freesing for a few minutes here and there.
after a few minutes everything is back on normal.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages! LIVE||lucifer666||7/3/06 12:34 AM|
Look at www.letour.fr. They have published a coverage of the TdF for GE on their site.
I was contacted by Google last week where they asked permission to use my work as a basis for the official coverage by the Tdf organisation comitee.
Wow, thats cool, beeing asked by the big ones.
So all of you working hard to publish realy good GE placemarks. WE have it in hands to make the world more GE aware!
We can expect to see some more details on start and arrival locations in the www.Letour.fr version.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||janth||7/4/06 12:30 AM|
There's a mistake in the route of the last part (from Valkenburg to the Finish) of today's stage (stage 3). For the correct route see http://develop.proflexes.nl/eccycling2006/images/eccycling2006_22122005154853.gif
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||lucifer666||7/4/06 1:03 AM|
That is exactly the information needed to have the most accurate routing.
!!! Please more of such information !!!
Today I will however leave the route as is in order not to break the live tracking module.
The most difficult task for now is to get a track with the exact length as published by TdF. Only with this route I can compute a good live tracking.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||PH_ART||7/4/06 1:51 AM|
Is the kml on www.letour.fr yours or antoher? And if no, has it been made with your support? It looks a bit the same
P.S. Thanks a lot for the nice thing! How do you get live tracking into GE? Do you need Plus?
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||lucifer666||7/4/06 2:56 AM|
The Placemark from Letour is done by Google, based on my work.
I was contacted last week and wee agreed a cooperation.
You can see my name (The frist one) in the description of the placemark.
Live tracking is done completely outside GE!
I wrote a script which performs a series of steps:
1) downloads the letour.fr page
2) extract the current location (km to end)
3) lookup the position on the track to obtain coordinates
4) write the KML file (its pure text)
5) upload the files to the webserver
6) wait 10 seconds and restart.
Its a script written in REBOL containing about 80 lines of code.
For the work on the track I in fact use GE Plus for ease of editing tracks.
I principle one could do the same with any free GIS software.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages! LIVE||lucifer666||7/4/06 3:20 AM|
By the way,
Notice that on todays stage 3 the track seems misalligned to the images until km 25!!
Well in Fact its the image which is missalligned!
The track is exactly following the road layer information, which is exact for all other hi-res areas.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||rilkeanhearts||7/4/06 7:33 AM|
Noticed that there are multiple views in the live track now! Thank you so much...
Now what would be really cool... If there were a way to integrate the live tour updates from the TDF site:
I have no idea if this is possible... maybe it could be done if those posts were RSS Feeds, which they are not.
Thanks again for the views options!
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||hgalca||7/4/06 8:03 AM|
Still not able to use the live feature
Using a web anonymizer I was able to access your web site and the kml files, however using IE or GE fails to load anything.
It looks like funpic.de is blocking some subnets from Romania
(I tried from the office and also from home).
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||lucifer666||7/5/06 3:08 AM|
Sorry to hear not everybody can access the network link.
I will try to work out a solution, check your PM this evening.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||hgalca||7/5/06 12:55 PM|
Don't waste your time on this one. I can live without it, or I will download the files manually and then open them in GE.
Later: I solved the problem by creating a separate folder in My Places with 'custom' network links. These are your links with the text 'http://concealme.com/nph-proxy.pl/000110A/' in front of them.
|Is there an archive of the LIVE waypoints?||ChrisCYWG||7/5/06 2:53 PM|
I'm new here, I race in Canada. I have a computrainer I use for indoor training whih I can build any course with from GPS data. The more GPS data I have (Lat,Long,Altitude) at very tight intervals, I can duplicate the course the riders are on, and re ride the virtual road indoors over winter...
I am wondering if anyone has an archive of the live waypoints, and can I possibly get them?
Thank you in advance!
|Re: Is there an archive of the LIVE waypoints?||lucifer666||7/5/06 3:58 PM|
Well we have only the 2D coordinates for the Tour de France, That meen NO altitude, which is I would guess not so interesting to ride fully flat.
Basically you have the course from the Placemark.
If you need it in another format look at www.gpsvisualizer.com
|Re: Is there an archive of the LIVE waypoints?||ChrisCYWG||7/5/06 9:17 PM|
I'm new to this google earth stuff, and just stumbled across the TdF for it!
By Placemarks, I am assuming those are the every 5km points??
You don't have coordinates from the Live feeds around that could be used as placemarks do you??
What I am thinking (And I know this would be tedious work) But if I had frequent placemarks, I *could* just mouse over the placemark, record the lat/long and altitude that way.. as I said very long, but well worth it in the end! I tried doing this on one stage and just following the path with the mouse and recording data... the only problem for me doing it this way is sometimes I got lost on the route to the next 5KM marker.. maybe I was looking at something wrong...
Anyways, full credit goes to you for this outstanding work!!
Thanks, and if you have any ideas for me on easier retrieval of the data, please let me know...
|Re: Is there an archive of the LIVE waypoints?||lucifer666||7/6/06 12:00 AM|
Why do you want live feeds?
This would only be usefull for racing against the head of the race, which is not related to a particular athlete. Without pejudicing your skills but I would believe that pace would be a little high.
What you in fact need is a full set of waypoints covering the racetrack as accurate as possible.
Go into the Google Earth placemark for the Tour de France.
( A placemark is anything put into a KML/KMZ file to be viewed in GE. Or any single point within such a file.)
Open the Folder for a stage
--Étape 2, Lundi 3 juillet
---Route Étape 2
Here you find a placemark (One of the Items in the Folder) named "Route étape 2"
Right Klick on this Item and choose "save as..."
Save the file as "*.KML" with the name you want.
in this file you have a section like this
but much much longer
(in fact with 6634 points for Stage 2 ! that is an average of 35m between 2 points!)
Each line is a point of the trackline in the format "longitude,latitude,altitude"
Basically you do not have to understand this file format! Just go to
choose the file you just saved in GE and convert it to GPX format.
Download the attached GPX File of stage 2 as example for testing
Normally you should be able to import the GPX file into your trainer Software.
However, remember we do not have altitude information and can not get it.
regarding the altitude problem look here:
Live position is only published in the internet as progress in the race as a distance from start, therefore no coordinates!
I hope this clarifies a little your view of the situation.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||Lunie||7/6/06 4:54 AM|
I too saw the possibilty of multiple views for the live tracking...
Personally I only use the "close follow view" but I am curious about the "split positions" option...
What is the objective of this option?? And when will it work?? Excuse me if I seem unpatient
If it is what I hope (the position of every group) I would be very excited!!
Keep up the good work!!
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||lucifer666||7/6/06 9:55 AM|
Well the split positions is my try to follow not only the head of the race but all groups forming. This was for the last 2 stages the head group and behind the peloton. Basically it can be more groups.
This tracking is working from time to time and crashingdue to parse errors.
You see the rules to set up to extract the time gap between the groups is quite tricky, because I never know in andvance how many groups there are.
As I am at work during the stages I have no chance of relaunching the script upon failure.
On Saturday we have a contre la montre where we will not have live coverage, but on Sunday I should be able to follow the race and debug the script and work out a reliable solution.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||Lunie||7/7/06 1:18 AM|
thanks for your answer! I'm hoping you will succeed in making a reliable solution.
It is very nice to see the difference between the groups in the TdF.
|Sorry, FTP on server is down!||lucifer666||7/7/06 4:18 AM|
My FTP on the web account is temporarily down.
I can do nothing but wait.
Scripts are running and trying to upload. As soon the FTP is back online tracking will continue.
Everything back to normal. Sorry for missing the beginning of Stage 6.
|Websites with photos||Heidas||7/8/06 1:54 AM|
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||fordhors||7/9/06 7:57 AM|
The split tracking worked great today. Thanks for adding that feature, it really enhances the visual experience.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||sarbacane||7/9/06 7:58 AM|
I confirm! Great Idea.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||lucifer666||7/9/06 12:24 PM|
Thanks for the feedback,
I am glad it works finally after 4 Stages of testing...
I will see to upgrade the other views to include the diferent groups of the race.
Unfortunately I could not follow todays stage, Family comes first.
|Re: Is there an archive of the LIVE waypoints?||ChrisCYWG||7/10/06 9:32 AM|
Thanks for the input.. the prolog is completed after writing code to access the site, and alot of manual editing!!
I am now working on the Stage 7 ITT...
A question though.. the stage Was 52KM, but the route on google earth only shows 46.67KM for some reason...
|Test||lucifer666||7/11/06 4:09 AM|
View stage 9 directly in your browser
Forget it, its not working...
|Re: Is there an archive of the LIVE waypoints?||lucifer666||7/11/06 1:49 PM|
52 = 46.67
Well you know, that has something to do with the relativity theory.
As you certainly know, Google Earth is based on satelite technology.
And these satelites are flying dam fast, That is where time dilatation comes into the game.
Distance, speed and time being unseparable we therefore have some side effects in GE regarding the distances.
It is also affecting the time and speed but this we cannot notice in GE.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||Lunie||7/12/06 4:49 AM|
Yesterday I wasn't able to take a look at the live tracking but what I see today tops all of my expectations!!!
The option to choose your own view seperately from the live positions is super!!
And again: Keep up the good work!!
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||lucifer666||7/12/06 5:06 AM|
Thanks for the flowers.
But have you noticed how good I am at Trigonometry????
Shouldn't the backwards camera bee looking "Back"
And the peloton camera should be looking towards the head of the race and not somewhere back??
Wow am I good
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||Lunie||7/12/06 7:32 AM|
When you look at it that way... it should but the only view I use is "Tête de la course, tilted camera" because I like to see the upcoming hills and height differences.
The flowers can wait until you've altered the trigonomity but I still like the options you provide!!
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||sarbacane||7/13/06 4:45 AM|
"Split positions" doesn't work today?
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||lucifer666||7/13/06 6:57 AM|
"Split Position" ????
You are using an old version!!
Download the placemark from the first post and you will automatically get the actual setup for the race.
I have reworked the live follow up because it was still buggy.
Now It works quite well ( If the Server "funpic.de" is not down), I am just left with an error when placing the "Attardés" group.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages!||sarbacane||7/13/06 2:22 PM|
Ok thanks, I will look that tomorrow. Last days I couldn't follow the race live because of my work. The sample I saw, It looks like great.
Bon 14 juillet ("Bastille day" ) à tous (les français).
|Tour de France 2006: Help needed Not anymore||lucifer666||7/14/06 1:12 AM|
EDIT July 16th
Problem Solved. The risk of having to interrupt this service is banned.
These last days you have certainly noticed that the live coverage was not reliable.
This is due to the fact that my current free webspace provider either is having problems or is kikking me (I am if fact not exactly complying to his rules when hosting KML files).
Today (Prise de la Bastille) I host the files on my private homepage but the traffic limit will soon be reached. And then its over.
So here my call for help:
Does anyone out there have some webspace with unlimited traffic for hosting the live coverage of the TdF.
- Webspace: <5 MB
- FTP upload
- unlimited traffic (Well I don't know how much)
If you have an Idea please send me a PM
Thanks for your help
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages! LIVE||SparkyMTB||7/14/06 1:46 AM|
Wow, brilliant live update version.
Is there a non-live version? This would just show the actual stage routes with the mountain peaks and sprint waypoints.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: Some statistics||lucifer666||7/14/06 3:22 PM|
Today I hosted the network link on another server, here are the logs:
Just for those courious ones.
You where up to near 600 following the end of the race.
these users downloaded the main position KML 186521 times
All together there where about 500 000 hits (Yes, half a million!)
generating a traffic of nearly 1 Gigabyte.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: Some statistics||McSky||7/15/06 3:31 AM|
Absolutely brilliant work, thank you! Fantastic!
|Re: Tour de France 2006: Some statistics||lucifer666||7/17/06 12:19 AM|
July 16th, Stage 14
Visitors : 3110
|Re: Tour de France 2006: Some statistics||lucifer666||7/19/06 2:57 AM|
Here are the statistics for July 18th
And from Where:
|Re: Tour de France 2006: Some statistics||Lunie||7/20/06 6:04 AM|
is it possible there's something wrong today??
In the Live - view is Tom Boonen in the attardes group but I thought he already stopped in the TdF.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: Something wrong today||lucifer666||7/20/06 2:02 PM|
Yes indeed you are correct, at the beginnig of the stage I again ran into on of these "Improvements" I put into the script.
(Well this time it was just a spelling error)
So the first update took yesterdays data and locked up...
After about an hour I was back home and corrected the script.
But now I promise! Everything is set up for stages 18 and 20 and I will not improve it any more!
It might be that at the beginning of the stage there are still odd data comming from this page:
That is where I get the group information.
Actual position of the leader is fetched from:
that has quicker updates.
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages! LIVE||lucifer666||7/21/06 1:02 AM|
Peter just informed me about the latest version of the Tour de France Placemark from www.letour.fr.
They have included a great model of the Arc du Triomphe at the arrival of stage 20
Have a look there this is a great improvement in the visuals for the last stage.
You can also have a look at
The Eiffel Tower
The Obelisque (Direct download)
Much more models at 3D Warehouse
and the 3D Warehouse Network link
|Re: Tour de France 2006: All Stages! LIVE||jowit||9/12/06 3:55 PM|
Ca c'est du tres bon travail...
This is a very good job...