| Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | aiken-standard | 1/3/12 8:52 AM | Our CSE picks up on navigation, sidebar, and footer content on our site. I have used <div class="nocontent"> (from Exclude Boilerplate Content suggestion) and I cannot tell when it will or will not ignore that content. It doesn't seem to ignore the a |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | hxu-cse | 1/4/12 6:34 PM | Could you provide us an example that shows the nocontent tag doesn't work? Thanks! |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | omr | 1/4/12 7:00 PM | @ hxu-cse I'm preparing a test page and CSE to demonstrate that class="nocontent" may not prevent indexing of content in containers tagged with that class. I'll email you later this evening. -- omr |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | aiken-standard | 1/5/12 8:59 AM | Is it a possibility that anything in a div id'ed HEADER will be assumed to be boilerplate/navigation content? Our navigation is not currently within the <div id="header">. |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | hxu-cse | 1/27/12 4:07 PM | There are some known issues that the nocontent tag does not fully work as described. We are working towards a solution. I'll update this thread as soon as we have anything. |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | mpaladino | 1/31/12 9:30 PM | @hxu-cse, We're seeing similar issues with the nocontent class. You mention some known issues. Are there any short-term workarounds available that might help in the interim until the team gets a more permanent solution? Thanks. Michael |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | hxu-cse | 2/1/12 2:40 PM | Unfortunately, there is no workaround, but we are working as fast as possible to roll out changes that would fix the issues. |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | yvetteu | 2/13/12 1:13 PM | We're having this same problem with the CSE used on Cincinnati.com. We have news stories in our drop-down navigation that cause all pages to seem like they contain that content when searching our site. It's making our site search useless for most cur |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | hxu-cse | 2/14/12 12:31 PM | The div can have multiple classes. I will update the thread as soon as the fix is out. |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | catchpen | 2/29/12 6:13 PM | I'm looking forward to a fix as well. I'm using the nocontent class in a multiple class div (second out of 2) and it's not filtering. My site search results include related content and category names; don't want. |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | zack_dev | 3/13/12 8:53 AM | I'm also experiencing the same issue with the "nocontent" class. In my situation, the sidebar and other blocks that are wrapped in "nocontent" are showing up in search results. More specifically, I've only experienced links in these block being index |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | Howzit | 3/13/12 10:57 AM | Howzit! hxu... Please keep us informed regarding this issue. It's causing havoc on our site... Regards |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | hxu-cse | 3/15/12 12:44 PM | A solution is being actively worked on. We will update the forum as soon as we have something to share. Thanks for your patience! |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | liqian-cse | 3/21/12 12:59 PM | We have fixed all corner cases, but the fixes need an extra step from you to add a new field in your CSE definition, as describe in the HC article:http://support.google.com/customsearch/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2364585 |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | catchpen | 3/21/12 8:47 PM | Hi liqian-cse, Thank you, I updated the XML file with your fixand uploaded it back to Google. Do we have to wait for Google to re-index our site before we see the changes? Our site searches are still including the nocontent material. |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | liqian-cse | 3/22/12 11:44 AM | Hi catchpen, Please send me your CSE id and a sample query for further investigation. |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | Howzit | 3/22/12 12:48 PM | Hi Liqian-cse, I have also updated the context file about the same time as catchpen, but still have the nocontent included in our results. CSE id: partner-pub-7276929086566026:9397788901 And sample query can be found here: Sample Query for "Bakkie |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | liqian-cse | 3/22/12 1:46 PM | Hi Howzit, It might work better if you remove all the "Search engine keywords" in the "Basics" page. |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | Howzit | 3/22/12 4:27 PM | Hi Liqian-cse, Thanks I did so and also removed the keywords from the context file... The results look WAY better and I see where I still have to add nocontent class to other sections of my pages. Thanks for your help! |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | Howzit | 3/22/12 4:29 PM | Just for interest sake... Why would it be better to remove the keywords and what is the real function then for adding or removing the keywords? |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | liqian-cse | 3/22/12 4:33 PM | Here is a help article about keywords:http://support.google.com/customsearch/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=70357 |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | Howzit | 3/22/12 4:40 PM | Cool! Thanks... It now makes more sense! Thinking out loud... ;-) Yeah! Google has a voice!!! This is SO cool! |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | mpaladino | 3/22/12 4:45 PM | liqian-cse, Thanks for the update. We've tried the fix but are still not seeing the content excluded. CSE: 001172908462845545412:browyhr1pyy Search query: http://www3.samsclub.com/meals/search?searchterm=brookside We also have no "Search engine keyw |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | liqian-cse | 3/22/12 5:04 PM | Hi mpaladino, For your case, please wait for the URLs to be refreshed. You will see less and less nocontent results day after day. |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | hxu-cse | 3/22/12 5:16 PM | Just to add, for urls with nocontent tags newly added or added prior to our last fix (if applicable), only after Google Custom Search recrawls and reprocesses the urls, the nocontent section can be understood and excluded from keyword matching. (You |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | social-hire | 3/23/12 8:10 AM | Hi. I have been having the same problem. I have revised the context file as suggested and also removed all search engine keywords for the following two CSEs: 007008189700091022049:5w43xkxmsf4 007008189700091022049:tw3dsywh72w 2 questions please: |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | hxu-cse | 3/23/12 4:39 PM | There are mainly factors that affect how frequently Google recrawls your site: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdPnRn_qQHw You can always use the on-demand indexing tool to accelerate the recrawl just for your CSE. |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | liqian-cse | 3/23/12 5:05 PM | As for "search engine keywords", you don't need to remove those. My earlier suggestion was based on the specific settings of the user's CSE. So it may not apply to your CSE. |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | yvetteu | 3/30/12 11:09 AM | I applied the change to our content.xml file 5 days ago. We are still not seeing any affect. I've been testing it every day with NEW content (our site is updated all day, every day) and am still seeing the same results we saw before implementing the |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | social-hire | 4/1/12 8:29 PM | This fix does not appear to be working. I have followed all the steps as requested and both old content AND brand new content is appearing in our CSE results with the nocontent content included in the search results. |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | liqian-cse | 4/2/12 1:23 PM | Hi yvetteu, These results are returned because you have a section which contains the keywords and the section is not marked as nocontent:LATEST NEWS FROM http://CINCINNATI.COM It is near the bottom, and just above the sitemap section. You will see it if you |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | yvetteu | 4/2/12 1:28 PM | Thanks, but it's not that. The specific examples I was seeing (where the words were bold in the Google results) were from the drop-down navigation. I could tell because I was seeing the summary, not just the headline. The area you point to only shows |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | liqian-cse | 4/2/12 1:30 PM | Hi social-hire, The results are returned because your pages do contain the keyword "account" on the page:MEET EMPLOYERS -> Create your candidate account now |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | social-hire | 4/3/12 8:05 PM | Thank you for looking into this and for suggesting why this is happening. I'm afraid I can prove that this is not the case, the reason is that the nocontent content is still being indexed. Please search instead for "business advisory". This term is o |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | liqian-cse | 4/4/12 11:47 AM | You defined additional search keywords in your engine: "Hiring Recruiter Recruiting Recruitment jobs". It should work better without the keywords. |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | omr | 4/4/12 2:59 PM | <This message has been deleted.> |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | omr | 4/4/12 3:00 PM | Sorry, that is not a solution in this case. Here is my temporary test CSE searching the mentioned site, with NO keywords. http://www.google.com/cse?cx=006546854575108700448%3An3fvyor5cgo&ie=UTF-8&q=%22business+advisory%22 Note the results matchin |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | social-hire | 4/5/12 9:10 AM | Thank you for the response. However earlier in this thread I experimented with removing keywords from the CSEs and it made no difference. Also you yourself advised me on Mar 24 that I didn't need to remove keywords - and so I added them back (as they |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | social-hire | 4/5/12 9:12 AM | Thanks omr for your input, really appreciated - and completely mirrors all the experiments I have been doing to try and get this CSE to work satisfactorily. |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | liqian-cse | 4/5/12 9:47 AM | Although the results highlight "business advisory" in the nocontent section, the result pages do contain one or more of the following keywords in other sections: business/advisory/advice.http://www.google.com/cse?cx=006546854575108700448%3An3fvyor5cg |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | social-hire | 4/5/12 9:56 AM | I am searching for the exact match "business advisory" and there should be hardly any profiles on our site that contain this exact term. Yet 1,000+ are returned as being matches and almost all are displaying in the search results the nocontent conten |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | omr | 4/5/12 2:02 PM | @ liqian-cse: When we searched for the quoted phrase "business advisory", we did not expect to see results which contain that exact phrase only within elements marked with the "nocontent" class. We expected such results to be excluded entirely. No |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | liqian-cse | 4/5/12 2:21 PM | The current CSE behavior is as follows: Given keywords A and B,1. Pages with A and B in regular sections -> returned as results;2. Pages with A or B in regular sections, and A and B in nocontent sections -> returned as results;3. Pages without A or B |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | omr | 4/5/12 4:36 PM | @ liqian-cse: Thanks for the clarification. Regarding case 3: "Pages without A or B in regular sections, but with A and B in nocontent sections -> excluded": I stand by and reiterate the first part of my previous reply: ... When we searched for t |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | social-hire | 4/8/12 11:17 PM | Thank you for your detailed follow-ups. @ liqian-cse - I don't believe case 3 works as you've described, ie. "3. Pages without A or B in regular sections, but with A and B in nocontent sections -> excluded." The following page is the 3rd result retur |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | yvetteu | 4/9/12 6:59 AM | This is the same thing we're seeing. The content that is being indexed is ONLY inside the nocontent tag. Here is another current example. Search "Quebec Heights, the technology-rich" (this is the lead of a story that appears in our drop-down nav whic |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | social-hire | 4/15/12 10:31 PM | liqian-cse - do you have any update on the above please? |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | omr | 4/16/12 4:10 AM | @ yvetteu: As a suggestion, perhaps you may want to consider applying the "nocontent" class to these containers on http://cincinnati.com article pages? - Header (div element with class "header-container") - Side bar (div element with class "aside") - Outb |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | omr | 4/16/12 5:28 AM | @ social-hire: As an experiment, it may be interesting to observe that the "nocontent" exclusion might be somewhat improved by quoting individual query terms. (As you have already observed, given the quoted query "business advisory" your CSE produc |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | omr | 4/16/12 4:35 PM | In my previous reply, I observed (experimentally) that the "nocontent" exclusion behavior may be effectively enhanced in some cases by "quoting" individual query terms. Further to that observation, I suppose that a similar benefit might be obtained |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | pmyetter | 6/15/12 2:50 AM | We are trying to use CSE for our site and have the same problem discussed here where we have content that is included in all pages (an index/summary of news items for the current issue). As others have described if you search for any string that is |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | puhab | 9/25/12 12:06 PM | Hi, I have a similar problem. I have a navigation bar with <div id="nav" class="nocontent">. The links are created with ul and li tags. I have added enable_nocontent_tag="true" to the context xml. I have requested a reindexing of the pages however |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | puhab | 10/25/12 8:55 AM | 1 month and no answer... |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | social-hire | 1/14/13 9:24 AM | Could I please ask for an update on this issue. Our entire site is compromised by the CSE returning search results that are vastly different from what would be returned on Google's regular search engine. Is there any prospect of this being resolved o |
| Re: Nocontent Exclude Boilerplate does not work. | deefuz | 1/24/13 4:50 AM | The same... |