|I am a new victim of this car scam. Why isn't this "wire transfer scam" posted where it is easily read?||me-sad2011||3/30/11 9:55 AM|
I have had to dig deep to find a response to my questions regarding this widespread online vehicle scam. I feel that this scenerio should be posted where it will catch the attention of ALL potential buyers that frequent Google Checkout.
I was a new user of Google Checkout and unfamiliar with the payment methods at the time. When I was directed online from Google Checkout to Western Union to perform a wire transfer to a Google Checkout representative I did just that (unknowingly wired my money directly to the pockets of thieves!). I went along with the process because the scammer sent Google Checkout terms and conditions, Google Checkout reciepts and confirmations. I even recieved confirmation emails that I thought were from Western Union. I became suspicious when the Google Checkout confirmation vehicle delivery date was written as the previous month. I soon after recieved an email from the supposed seller stating a more practical date of delivery. When I contacted the Military Vehicle Transport office which was to deliver the vehicle, I was informed that this situation is the current online vehicle scam. He went onto say that my story had matched hundreds of others.
I ask why are not more people jumping up and waving the red flag!?
My husband mentioned simply accepting our loss and moving on as many of the other victims have. However I feel that we need to stay active so that the officials can catch and stop the people behind this elaborate scheme. I want these thieves to pay the price as hundreds of other inoccent, vulnerable people already have!
|Re: I am a new victim of this car scam. Why isn't this "wire transfer scam" posted where it is easily read?||me-sad2011||3/30/11 10:01 AM|
When I went to the police station to file a report regarding this online vehicle fraud, the office told me that his sister-in-law had recently become a victim in this exact scenerio!
|Re: I am a new victim of this car scam. Why isn't this "wire transfer scam" posted where it is easily read?||allisonfincham||3/30/11 12:05 PM|
the same thing happened to myself and my husband. we sent almost 2900. dollars for a horse trailer that we never got and didn't get our money back. i got the same thing for the google checkout it really looked real. i have never used a google checkout before and i just thought it was the real deal. i guess i was wrong. these people that take others hard earned money they do need to be punished. if they don't get punished by the law they will meet their make r and they will see their judgement day. we all learn from our mistakes by a 2900 dollar really sucks. i hope this helps other people before they make the same mistake we did.
|Re: I am a new victim of this car scam. Why isn't this "wire transfer scam" posted where it is easily read?||EdSF||3/30/11 12:09 PM|
The most logical place where warnings should be posted is the web site where the scam was posted in the first place....
As an example Craigslist does - i.e. in the "For Sale" Category, you'll see warnings everywhere, and even before you get to a category, an interim page warning of scams is presented to the user....
However, the best way you can really protect yourself from scams is to find out how a service works. In the case of Google Checkout:
A scam can come from anywhere, and unless you know how a service works, a few spoof emails and web sites later, none of the warnings will matter. It's trivial to spoof emails and web sites (to look like the original/legitimate email/web site).
Case in point, based on your post, this statement:
"When I was directed online from Google Checkout to Western Union to perform a wire transfer to a Google Checkout representative.....",
that's the effect of a successful spoof. You never really were at any Google site, nor corresponding with anyone from Google....
Western Union, MoneyGram and similar are untraceable and unrecoverable. You should consider them as "cash" - you send it you pretty much spent it. That's why they are commonly used in scams. Realizing this alone will be important for you to reconsider any transaction with someone you don't personally know using these types of payment. These services say as much...
|macdaddy1||4/11/11 5:22 PM|
I posted a huge write up on a different complaint link/site for these google scams.
If you read this send me an email. I was scammed for about 9000.00. I caught on before the scammers could get my other 8000.00!!! The only relief I have is that I stopped them... from getting more money. I want to start a column so people can easily access our info and discourage these crooks from continuing to do this. They will get theirs someday. I have an FBI contact tracking my particular case.
My email is mdb...@juno.com
Hope to hear from you.
|p0yap0ya||6/10/11 5:34 PM|
can anyone help google checkout fraud
2900 dollar for used car i think im fraud from google check out
please help me any information google check out like phone number or email
|020gberry020||7/9/11 2:14 AM|
There is a recent scam i found yesterday on autotrader for a bmw z4 for 5000! this imediatly rang alarmbells but i was intreged to find out the reson the car was being sold at such a price. The man (Dositeo Frias) claimed his company went bancrupk and he moved back home to spain. every question i asked he had a so called ligitamate answer luckily when speaking to someone on doing a hpi check on the car, she told me about these types of scams and to ask the seller if i could fly out and see the car! i did just that and it was enough proof to me that i was going no further with this! he said it would have been fine to fly out four days ago but he has now had the car created ready for shipping and would loose a 800 euro deposit and thats the main reson for using googlecheckout as and escrow service! he sent me the links for googlecheckout and told me how i would get 100% refund if i didnt like the car after 15 days. i checked his link and i think it was a replicour site. this blogg help me see that is a common scam.
IF SOMETHING LOOKS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE...IT IS! Do your homework and dont get scammed people :D
|jeradlong88||10/6/11 9:48 AM|
I Am a Victim of this "Google Checkout" scam. I say all victims join together and FIGHT google. they are the leader "INTERNET GIANT" why are they letting theses scammers get away with this. something needs to be done. i think a there is a good LAWSUIT that needs to be developed
|EdSF||10/6/11 1:15 PM|
What do you mean "they are letting these scammers get away with this"?
What does Google allow exactly? You mean Google should be responsible for stopping someone sitting on a desk somewhere in the world, sending an email that mentions Google and spoofing email address to make it look like the email comes from Google? How exactly would that work?
While its unfortunate that you may have been victimized by scams, your effort is best spent understanding how some service you are about to use works.
- if Google Checkout was mentioned, then learn how it works
- if you were asked to send money via some service like Western Union or MoneyGram, how exactly to they work?
You will have more success in protecting yourself in the future - whichever service is being mentioned....
|jselle24||10/6/11 1:18 PM|
Thank you folks for posting this.. I was very close to sending $5000 to buy a trailer from a supposed solider, who is based in Europe right now... he was going to use a five-day hold on the money through Google Checkout and ship me the the Military Auto Transport service. After reading your post I called Fort Lewis in Tacoma Washington and the soldier is not attached to that base at all...and the military officer I spoke with said that scam is becoming fairly common these day... I am sorry you guys had to pay the price to this the hard way, but if it is any consolation, I am sincerely grateful for your posts here. You don't know how close I was to sending the money, and losing $5000 would have been devastating to me...
|efernandez||10/21/11 1:52 PM|
I am another victim of these people, I am a widow woman with 3 kids, and I have saved $4000.00 for a car. I was looking in craiglist and I found a "good deal" $4000.00 for a 4x4. I received a google checkout e mail with the bank information and the transaction number. The seller sent me many e-mails with pictures of the car and she attached her drivers license and her military i.d to show that she was "real". Her name is Nicole Neely. I was supposed to recieve the car on Wednesday 10/19/11. I tried to communicate with her and she never answered me. I also e-mailed google checkout but they also never answered me.
|TawasBay||11/22/11 3:50 PM|
This scam just got my husband and I.We feel sooooooo STUPID. I wish I had done my homeswork on Google Checkout which has very basic instructions. I fell for the letter head E-mail that looked just like google Checkout. Does anyone know who I might file a complaint with ?
|cornwalker||11/30/11 7:13 PM|
"Does anyone know who I might file a complaint with ?"You can try your local police department or the FBI, but frankly they don't have the resources to deal with it. You can also file a report with the FBI Internet Crime Complaint Center, but that's not going to get your money back. In fact, it is extremely unlikely you will every see a dime of that money again. Once they have the money transfer information, it's as good (and untraceable) as if you had sent an envelope stuffed with cash.
|BigGryph||12/27/11 2:22 AM|
It is unfortunate and frustrating to be taken like that and my sympathies are with you. I think the old adage "Let the buyer beware" is more appropriate today than it ever was. Scammers are everywhere and they prey on the uninitiated constantly.
Google has no control over someone who scams you regardless of how you pay, even if you did pay via Google Checkout But sending money via electronic methods or selling and shipping to someone who says a Money Order is in the mail are almost always scams. I have been a GC Merchant for a few years. Honestly haven't been concentrating on selling for sometime.
You get an email asking your to verify your bank account info from yahoo or anyone else for that matter delete it. Someones uncle left them money and they will give you $100K to transfer to your bank account but they need the account numbers. Delete it
There are scams coming out of the woodwork and nobody can control them but you, the buyer. Never buy a vehicle unless you are there to inspect it and pay cash to get the title and keys. This applies to any big ticket item like trailers, ATVs Motor Cycles.
I have had nothing but good luck selling and buying via GC and expect this to continue. With any sale site, the second a seller or buyer wants and alternative payment method, be suspicious. A little paranoia never hurt anybody. I used to get bombarded with people wanting to send me Money Orders for things I was selling like computer and Camcorder. As soon as they got a reply explaining that I would ship the item as soon as the MO cleared or as soon as I had the money transfer cash in hand they never wrote back.
A few actually sent me Money Orders and waited for me to ship after the Money Order cleared the bank. There are warnings all over the internet advising against sending money via electronic transfer to strangers or shipping without actual payment.
I have had Money Gram emails that looked better than the ones they send that were scams. If you get an email telling you you won something, I guarantee you didn't win Jack.
GC is a good processor for buying and selling but they can't police the internet. Just because someone claims to be using GC doesn't mean anything unless you receive and actual invoice directing you to Google for payment. Just keep in mind when your payment is made your money is for the most part irretrievable.
|JustBarelyHere||5/5/12 10:40 AM|
They should stop this scammer. Had it not been for the fact that my aunt mentioned it sounded a little suspicious I would have fallen for it. My husband and I needed a new car and this time we looked in our local pennysaver and online. This guy is selling am 02 Nissan Altima in near perfect condition for 2600. He claims that he is from CA and stationed on a military training base. He "needs" to sell the car before he is deployed to Afghanistan which is why he dropped the price of a car worth at least 6000. He said to use Google Checkout so it was not a blind transaction. As he put it, I would get the car in 2-3 business days and then have 5 days in which to look at the car to decide if I wanted to buy it. I was skeptical about it and so not only did I go read up on Google Checkout what exactly it does, but I also sent him a message asking if my friend who lives in CA could come and see the merchandise and such. Basically so that I would have the assurance of a trusted 4th party in the transaction.
Had my aunt not mentioned how suspicious it sounded, I would have never searched online to find out if there were any scams involving Google Checkout. I am so glad that I did. Thanks to everyone posting here, I not only looked at the checkout but added having a friend who could check it out to make sure it was 'legit'. I doubt the scammer will agree to any of that. It was definitely a too good to be true thing.
This did teach me a few things though.
1. Always check the payment option being offered. (Thank goodness I didn't send the money)
2. Any used car (unless its from a dealer) I will need to fix it. (Thankfully my father in law works on cars)
That second one is going to stick with me as I continue my car search. I am sorry to hear about all the people who got scammed but I want to thank you because you helped me not to be scammed. Thank you so much for posting this.
|chevey57||5/15/12 6:09 PM|
thank you so much for your statement, I was just about to send the money through western union but I had a strange feeling about this thankyou
|C4RN1||5/25/12 10:26 AM|
I recently began looking for another car, mainly because i broke 2 cars in 2 weeks (while i'm working on my daily driver). I found this 03 toyota camry on craigslist for 2100. I received a non personal automated email that had the condition of the car and all that. I asked for a picture of the car with the vin number and the sellers name with the current date. Still no picture and now a link for google checkout.
I own a small computer repair shop in grand rapids mi, so i know a lot more than the average person when it comes to these scams.
The link that the woman sent me was http://google.checkout-cgi.com/veh.storeID374675/store.php?ssid_kop1w08nazj70rb&&verified_seller=true&&p=store&&dmpt=US_Vehicles
Now if you look at the link it's not google.com it's checkout-cgi.com so you can tell right off the bat that this is a scam. Though firefox didn't pick it up as a phishing site.
A quick search to report a phishing site lead me to this link
I urge everyone that gets a link that does not say "google.com" in the link and looks like google to report it using the link above. Google will verify that it it is a phishing site and it will block the site with a warning that it's a phishing site. I am pretty sure this works for all browsers but if you want to report a phishing site using internet explorer here's the link http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930167
This is the absolute best way to stop the scammers. Cops and the FBI will take forever and they honestly don't work as fast as google.
|jj92||5/29/12 8:20 PM|
wow i have been looking all night about this toyota camry to figure out if it was a scam or not, and i finally found your post! thank you so much, my suspicions were right to begin with! must be why craigslist advises you to be able to see the item your are purchasing ha oh you put a smile on my face!
|jj92||5/29/12 8:20 PM|
|StevoB||6/1/12 9:13 AM|
what kind of car was it? and where was the seller located? Because I think I might be in the same scam
|italianbulldogg||7/24/12 11:56 PM|
Someone who said they were Erica Wilson sent me this today. All I sent her was my phone number cause I wanted to speak to her. Am I ok? They dont have any pf my bank info. I found all of this when looking up google checkout
My name is Erica and I am selling this 2003 Toyota Camry because of my disability, being deaf and not able to drive it. It belonged to my husband, who passed away not long ago. The car is in perfect condition, I had an mechanic look over it before placing the ad. I do have the title, clear and is under my name. The car has about 70,025 miles on it, Automatic Transmission, Engine: 2.4L, 4 cylinders. As i stated in my ad the price is $1,800. I've recently move to Bismarck, ND, I have the car with me and i am able to ship it to you at no extra cost.
Let me know if you are interested, email back.
P. S : You can view the pictures here: http://s1149.photobucket.com/albums/o596/2OO3-Toyota-Camry/
|BilbosMad||10/14/12 10:23 AM|
This group are posting fraudulent car adverts on several UK online sale sites on a daily basis including Gumtree and Craigslists. Usual MO is car is in Spain and will be shipped over to the UK. All cars are well below normal book price (If it Looks too good to be true it probably is). E-Mail address concealed in the advert is the usual fraud ones hotmail, gmail, yahoo etc. Buyer will receive emails outlining method of payment which at present is via Google Checkout and bank transfer, which will be supported by bogus emails claiming how safe the transaction is and how you will be protected sending the money..... no deliver charge (alarm bells) you can't get to see the car before paying as it is already crated up.... (alarm bells) you can try it for a period of time before you fully pay as the money will be held by Google Checkout (alarm bells)
|Michael Young||10/15/12 4:34 PM|
Thanks for all of the posts on here.
I was very skeptical when I saw the post for a 2005 Corolla with 69K miles on it for only $1834. I kept asking questions and this is one of the replies I got. It sounds all too familiar to what everyone on here is talking about. I went with my gut feeling that if it sounds too good to be true....it usually is.
"Hi again ,
The car is stored with all the paperwork in Google Checkout warehouse number 28,in Great Falls MT headquarters in container,sealed and ready for delivery. The transaction will be made thru Google Checkout because they can protect both of us and they also offer 10 days inspection period. You'll have 10 days to test/drive the car before decided to keep it or not. If the vehicle is not like I described you'll ship it back on my expense and they will give you a full refund. Google Checkout will hold the funds until you receive the car with all the papers work. Only after you confirm them that you wanna keep it they will release me the funds. In this way you will be able to inspect the vehicle before committing to buy it.
If you want to start the transaction with Google Checkout reply me your full name, delivery address and your ph#no,then Google Checkout will contact you with further instructions.
|robert mcmillan||10/16/12 4:24 AM|
i have just been scammed for a lot of money with the thieves useing google checkout as a third party surely google the real one that is knows about this are they doing anything about it or can they not time these vermin were caught and brought to justice
|wanttoknownow||10/16/12 12:20 PM|
|Tessa1025||10/16/12 12:51 PM|
I was almost scammed until I did some research...thanks to your posts!! The scam artist used the name Stephanie Walton
Thanks MY NAME APPEARED HERE, you've finished! - Pending Payment
Google does not charge for inclusion in its search results and all advertisements are clearly marked.
|Tessa1025||10/16/12 12:53 PM|
The same person (this time used the name SFC Jessica Gibson) and was selling the same Altima for $1935.
|Lori Coulahan||10/16/12 5:17 PM|
Yep... I was so close to sending my money for a 2004 Nissan Maxima!
$1,600 (including delivery).
My persons name was Veronica Rutz, she was an oceanographer, currently at sea!
I'm so appreciative of all of your comments on here, had it not been for those
comments, I'm afraid I would have sent the money:'(
I feel so sorry for those of you that didn't see this first.
Thank you so much.
|jlgolob||10/18/12 8:11 AM|
I just received nearly the same exact reply after I inquired about a cheap Camry in Baltimore:
My name is Erika and I am selling this 2003 Toyota Camry XLE because of my disability, being deaf and not able to drive it. It belonged to my husband, who passed away not long ago. The car is in perfect condition, I had an mechanic look over it before placing the ad. I do have the title, clear and is under my name. The car has about 73,882 miles on it, Automatic Transmission, Engine: 2.4Liter 4 Cylinders. As i stated in my ad the price is $2,200. I've recently move to Bismarck, ND, I have the car with me and i am able to ship it to you at no extra cost.
Let me know if you are interested, email back.
P. S : You can view the pictures here: http://s1165.photobucket.com/albums/q592/03-Toyota-Camry-XLE/
|Brittany Babington||10/20/12 1:48 PM|
i was scammed by this lady also what should i do
|robert mcmillan||10/22/12 7:33 AM|
why cant we all be insured against these thieves as i am now out of work ill health an this car scam was the last thing i needed wish i could get my hands on these people
|Donell Smith||10/23/12 12:00 PM|
Funny I just got the same exact email!!! The persons name it came from was Hauge Ruth!! BEWARE
"I'm glad for your interest.
It's a 2005 Toyota Camry with 60k miles,in perfect condition,with no need for repairs,no scratches, never has accidents and no engine problems. Has 4-cyl and VIN: 4T1BE32KX5U421858. The clear title is ready to be signed on your name. The price is not negotiable, $1950 including delivery to your address. I sell it at this price because I cannot use it due to my job as an oceanographer and also I need money for my research. I'm on sea at this moment and I don't have anyone in the US to help me with the sale(the reason i posted on internet)
I decided to sell it online through Google Checkout because this protects both: buyer&seller. Also they will give you 10 days inspection period (test drive). If the car is not like I described they will ship it back on my expense and you will get a full refund. All documents, clear title and a bill of sale on your name will come along with the car.
Let me know your decision!"
|SAKin||10/23/12 8:48 PM|
BUYER BEWARE...you ALMOST got me jerk but you won't see a flippin penny from me. I told Christine Clifford (Craigslist seller, see below) I would run the below information by my attorney and if he approves, I will move forward - hhmmm wonder why I haven't heard from her! In another email she said all she needed was my Full name, address, and phone number - really lady, I don't give that info out to anybody unless I can meet them in person and you would still be lucky to get all that information out of me. Probably a good thing I never met you. If this was a real sale and there was really such a car for sale, I should be able to go pick it up even if it is on the other side of the United States, that is my choice idiot, not yours.
One more thing...thanks for ruining the trust of American's everywhere and disgracing our troops by saying you are one of the people who fight for our country when all you are doing is ripping off innocent people who work their butts off just to survive.
Those of you who have been scammed and actually lost your money - pray that karma kicks some @$$ and those losers get what is coming to them.
Here is Christine Clifford's response to my email to her Craigslist ad:
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Christine Clifford <christine...@live.com> wrote:
Thank you for your interest in purchasing my 1999 Toyota Camry with automatic transmission. It has been extremely well maintained with a full service history! Engine sounds like brand new, start fast and there are no leaks and no ticks, or noises whatsoever coming from this motor. The transmission shifts as it should, very smoothly. It goes down the road perfectly straight. You won't find another vehicle like this with lower mileage! Very smooth ride! A Camry in this condition, with these options (it's fully loaded for it's year) and this color combination is an absolute rarity! Very clean interior as you can see in the pictures... This Camry runs and drive like a dream, has ONLY 89,624 miles and the clear title is free of liens. I have dropped my price to $1,430 (purchase price) because this is an Urgent Sale. I need to sell it before October 29th when I will be deployed to Afghanistan with my platoon replacing the troops scheduled to come home.
First of all, let me know please where are you located. I also need to know if you require a loan or the funds are already available. (I hope you don't mind me asking this, but a loan would take time, which is my main problem right now). I have already many emails and I hope you understand that I have to sort them out. I will take in consideration only those buyers who are really interest in buying my car and have the funds available. I really don't want to waste my time with endless discussions.
The financial part will be managed by Google Checkout, which means that you will have a 5 days inspection period before committing to buy the car. In this way both, buyer and seller are 100% covered during the steps of this transaction. If you're interested in concluding this purchase in a timely manner ( before October 29th ) just email me back and I would be glad to explain you how the entire process works...
Hope to hear from you soon,
|SAKin||10/23/12 9:22 PM|
Me again...I went to Craigslist and tried to file a complaint about the fake listing I found - here is the information they asked me for at a third party online complaint website called "Internet Crime Complaint Center." Could be legit but now I am pissed off and I am not giving ANYONE any damn personal information about myself. Here is what the site asks you for in order to file your complaint (you really think I trust this):
Therefore, we request that you provide the following information when filing a complaint:
|J.Pizarro||10/24/12 6:00 PM|
I'm so happy I found this out! Google and Craigslist both need to do something about it! I will not give my info out again! Its sad that now a day you can't find a good deal! It's always a scam or something! So mad right Now.
|Donmis||10/29/12 10:00 PM|
thanks for the information. Here's my attempted scammer
Right now I'm out of the town with my family and I will be back in a few months. I can't meet you to show you the car,this is the main reason why I chose to sell it over the internet, but I can send you more pictures and details.I hope that is fine for you.
Here is my listing on Google Checkout : http://google.wallet-auctioncg.com/veh.storeID62873263/store.php?ssid_egyu4je0u8h9zu6&&verified_seller=true&&p=store&&dmpt=US_Vehicles
They have a Vehicle Purchase Program that will provide security for both of us.
To start the official transaction you have to go to my listing and press the Buy & Checkout button and follow the steps, and they will notify you with all the instructions how to purchase the car from me (payment, shipping, return policy etc.).
I will take care of the shipping and once you received it you will ahve 5 days to test drive the car.
In case you decide to keep it they will release the money to me, if not I will be responsible for the return shipping and you will have a complete refund within 24h.
The car is located in COLUMBIA, MD at the shipping company.
"Her" email address is lesliermcl...@gmail.com
|Simon Quigley||11/2/12 9:57 AM|
Christine Clifford tried to sell me a 2005 Acura TL in Ottawa, Canada, but using eBay. Here's the email I got..
Thank you for your interest in purchasing my 2005 Acura TL. It is in perfect condition, with no scratches on it, no damage, always garaged, always covered.
Everything about this car functions perfectly. 154497 km. Incredible power, handling and reliability. If you are interested in buying, the price is CAD $2,900.
I had to move with my family to Greece but because now i don't have time to ride i decided to sell the car.
The transaction will be done through eBay for our own protection, no money first to me.
Your funds will be 100% insured by eBay until you will receive and inspect the car, and I will be sure that I will receive the payment.
You will have 5 days from the time you receive the car to inspect it and decide if you want to keep it or not.
If you want to buy my car then e-mail me: Full name for the title, Shipping address
As soon as I have this information I'll start the official procedure, and eBay will notify you about this. You'll also receive important guidelines +
instructions from them (please go through them exactly). I'll handle the shipping, so this will be free of charge for you.
Looking forward to hearing from you,
|NuncEstBibendum||11/21/12 6:23 PM|
Same email, same person, same album sharing. I was suspicious that she could reply paragraphs 2 seconds after i responded to this and found the car having been listed to sell in random locations throughout North America.
The VIN # is salmb11443a111175.
Thank you for your interest in purchasing my 2003 Range Rover HSE. This car have only 103,180 km. It is in perfect condition, with no scratches on it, no damage, always garaged, always covered. Everything about this car functions perfectly. Incredible power, handling and reliability. If you are interested in buying, the price is CAD $6,200.
The financial part will be managed by eBay, which means that you will have a 5 days inspection period before committing to buy the car. In this way both, buyer and seller are 100% covered during the steps of this transaction.
If you're interested in concluding this purchase, just email me back and I would be glad to explain you how the entire process works...
Her immediate reply:
Like i told you in my first email I recently moved to Greece and the car is located in Canada. The car it's currently crated and held in the harbor at the shipping company ready to be delivered. I must pay a fee for each day for stationing in the harbor so I priced it low to sell it fast I've paid round-trip scheme and the returns are free and that is my secret for selling it so low. The car will be shipped from Saint John.
Shipping will be free of charge for you and will take no more than 3 working days. You will receive the car along with all the paperworks, keys, title and a bill of sale signed by me.
I want to tell you that we will use eBay in this transaction in order for both of us to be 100% protected and insured by them, eBay will supervise over our transaction. They will take care of the shipping (The car is already at the shipping company with all papers and documents ready to be shipped) and all the small details. You will get the car and you will have 5 calendar days return-policy in which you can decide if you will buy the car or not. In the inspection period you can test the vehicle, go with the vehicle at your local mechanic for inspection.
After your inspection period (5 calendar days) In case you won't like the car (not your case) you will notify eBay and you will send the car back on my expense, if you want to keep it you will also announce eBay, you will send the funds (payment method and all the details will be set up by eBay) and you will keep the car. If you agree with these terms, please send me your full name, shipping address and phone number, in order to start the transaction!
|T.J. Lassila||12/1/12 10:02 AM|
Doing it again: http://appleton.craigslist.org/ctd/3446807128.html
|I am a new victim of this car scam. Why isn't this "wire transfer scam" posted where it is easily read?||jeff testerman||12/4/12 6:21 PM|
I appriciate you taking the time, I was about to do the same thing, wanted me to wire money to_them . Damn theves need to be arrested! Again thank you...
|H.Mott||12/5/12 9:41 AM|
They are trying to get me to wire money to them too for a 2001 Rav4!! I told her that it is a scam and I am not sending anything and she will not let it go. She continues to say it is real and the car is waiting for me. Why won't she give up if I already told her I know it is a scam? Her husband continues to call me as well...
|I am a new victim of this car scam. Why isn't this "wire transfer scam" posted where it is easily read?||Adam Gendell||12/14/12 2:53 PM|
THANKS TO ALL OF YOUR POSTS I JUST AVOIDED BEING SCAMMED OUT OF $19,000 .
DARN, I WISH IT HAD BEEN AUTHENTIC, WHAT A CAR!! THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE, BELOW ARE THE EMAILS!
The payment method will be bank-to-bank wire transfer into Google's account. They will keep your money until you receive and inspect the car. After the deposit ($9,000) is made they shipping will start and I will be able to provide you the shipment details. It will be delivered by truck.
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:39:58 -0800
What type of payment would be required? How would the vehicle be shipped to me? And what sort of transmission us it?
Thank you for getting back to me. To support my argument regarding the condition of the car, I've attached more photos.
I had prearranged the deal with Google Checkout and they will supervise our transaction. The car is at Google Checkout shipping center in Seattle, WA. The shipping cost is included in the total price of the vehicle! The delivery will take no more then 7 days top. After you receive the car you will have 15 days to inspect it before you sign the papers to purchase the vehicle. So, this is not a blind transaction, in the event of non-acceptance you are entitled to receive a full reimbursement.
If you decide to move forward with the purchase I need the following details from you:
Sorry for the long emails I have tried to explain the entire process.
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:00:47 -0800
Thank you for the reply. I am interested and would appreciate more information on the car.
From: Rory Redican <roryr...@hotmail.com>;
Thank you for your interest in my 1962 Mercedes-Benz 190SL that is for sale. The car has always been well cared for and it's in absolutely pristine condition with 34500 miles. It was always garaged, no engine problems, damages or hidden defects.
I have a low price, $19000 including delivery to your home address. My husband and I divorced 4 months ago, after the divorce I was awarded the car, I don't need it anymore and that's why I'm selling it. Looking forward for your reply if you are interested in the car and I will send you more details about the deal or car as well.
|jeff071||12/19/12 3:50 PM|
I DID MAKE THE TRANSFER AND WAS TOLD THE CAR WAS LOCATED IN US.
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
From: Rory Redican <roryr...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:40:49 -0700
From: Rory Redican [mailto:ro...@hotmail.com]
From: Rory Redican [mailto:ro...@hotmail.com]
I would like to know which type of engine you have installed in the 1962 Mercedes Benz 190SL, I saw in the description that you have a V8, is this true, This is why wanted to see images of the engine.
From: Rory Redican [mailto:ro...@hotmail.com]
|Kristen D||12/19/12 4:19 PM|
I am looking on TriCities TN craigslist for a car for my 16 yr old son for Christmas. We seen an awesome deal and emailed the person and this is what we got back from Alan Brown email address aln....@gmail.com
I've previously told you,I'm currently involved in a military program, temporarily based in Plano, as I'll be changing it for Afghanistan very soon. Due to military security reasons I'm restricted from leaving the unit's facility under any purpose and have strictly limited phone access. The shipping won't be a problem; military has a considerable discount, so I can handle it by myself, with no charges whatsoever on your account.
The car will be sent along with all its documents including title, bill of sale, 2 sets of keys, full service records and everything else you'll need. Because it's such a large transaction, I'd suggest using an authorized third party, Google Checkout for instance. I've done some research and that's the safest way to do it. That's why, I've taken the liberty to prearrange things with them, using their escrow Google Checkout. I thought you might want to see it there, so I've asked them to allow viewers to inspect the car; but their reply was: "We are not a showroom!" No worries cause I'll grant you a 5 days inspection period (to test drive it) from the moment you receive it, before Google Checkout escrow releases your money to me. The car is located in their warehouse in Plano (ready for delivery).The shipping company will deliver your vehicle to your front door at a time convenient to you. Standard shipping is usually delivered in 3-4 business days.
If you would like to move forward with this deal send me your full name and address where you want it shipped and we can start the transaction. After the transaction is processed they will send you the invoice explaining the exact procedure...it's quite simple.
|MassAuthentics||12/30/12 12:06 PM|
Fight google? IT'S NOT GOOGLE TAKING YOUR MONEY, OR EVEN ALLOWING SOMEONE ELSE TO, THESE PPL ARE SIMPILY USING A COPY OF STANDARD FORMS OR SPOOFED EMAIL ADDRESSES.
|Paige Merseal||1/4/13 9:41 AM|
We got scammed in the same type scam. But our was a travel trailer. Google is very aware of this scam. Other than the first few words, it is word for word the same. Google has the technical to track, catch, and jail these people. Google doesn't give a dam if the Google Checkout customers are bring robbed. All Google cares about is making money.
|NOsrt8_4_me||1/18/13 10:44 AM|
I recently had this exact same thing done to me. I lost almost $6,000. I am still getting an e-mail for send another $2,000 for the car to be shipped. I had Google confirm that somebody like copied and pasted the e-mail together to make it look like it came from Google checkout. I am currently waiting to hear back from the secret service. I don't know what to do I have no money now. Am I just another average American who gets scammed, goes broke and lives in debt. If anybody has had a different outcome, please comment.
|macdaddy1||1/20/13 8:09 PM|
These scams have been around autotrader and craigslist for 4yrs or more. They get so many people and no one understands how to stop it. I have called FBI and the IC3 website folks but they don't care. They will keep it up until someone important is scammed.
Then maybe the law enforcement people will do something.
|bulkbits||1/24/13 5:05 PM|
A bit of common sense would tell you, that if it seems too good to be true, it usually is...
|Chip Arrendale||2/10/13 5:54 PM|
I agree 100% with you "me-sad2011". I was in the process of buying a truck that was a little closer to the Kelly Blue Book than the two $12000 Maximas that were for sale for about half that amount. These two maxima's raised suspicion, and both had stories of Captain SOSO for the army has been shipped back over sea's and is being forced to sell due to vehichle taxes being to high. The owner of the more reasonable sale (but a good deal) had a similar story;however, I check on recent frauds. There should be a way that you can catch the persons through the "google checkout" or whatever third party is involved. I'm not sure if its a requirement, but obviously not, that an I.D. should be required to be faxed to create and account over a certain amount of money.
|Jonielle||2/10/13 7:24 PM|
I'm so glad you posted this... i merely copy and paste "Google Checkout warehouse number 28,in Great Falls MT headquarters " from the email i just received and your post came up... I'm a college student and i don't have money to just throw away like that... i actually had to work hard just to put up some money in order to get a car... I am so thankful to you guys for speaking out because i would have been at such a lost.
|EdSF||2/11/13 12:08 PM|
Your "requirement for ID" should be required wherever you originally found the post.
It has nothing to do with Google Checkout - that's what the scam is about. They pretend to be Google Checkout.
|Mario Angelo Cader||2/20/13 1:52 AM|
|Jennifer Zuniga||2/20/13 10:18 AM|
OMG!!! that is the exact email I got from this lady that I wanted to buy a nissan murano from! Thank God I didn't.
|[email address]||2/23/13 12:50 AM|
I fell into the scam of 2000 dollars sent by moneygram for the purchase of a 2006 volkswagon jetta.... Not bad price and the lady selling it said her son and his fiance was just killed 4 months ago by drunk driver in carbondale and her and her husband couldn't bear the site of the car knowing it was their dead sons.. I checked background thoroughly or so I thought til I sent the money and no car, no return emails and no money back liz...@gmail.com was the email addy they used in the scam and I was informed by police that I need to start lifelock to protect myself and my family from these scam artists from trying to use my name to help them scam someone else. These people doing this should be locked away and made to face their victims face to face to see first hand who they are hurting!
|kja123||2/23/13 2:40 PM|
hi I sent.my address but no.money.. am.I.safe?
|Ashley Small||2/27/13 5:49 PM|
I almost got caught as wee
"Hi,My name is Sandra, happy to see you are interested in my 2001 Lexus GS GS 300. Let me give you a few details about it. Really good shape, never had any problems with it, no scratches nor dents, the car is free of any accidents, the mileage is 55,497, automatic transmission, Gasoline Fuel , Gold exterior.The title is legally under my name, clear and free of any liens or loans. The price was reduced at $1,914. Because of my divorce settlement, i own this car and as a woman i don`t need it so i`m trying to get rid of it as soon as possible (that`s why i`m selling it so cheap).
If you have any other questions, or need more info and photos, just drop me an email and I'll get back to you.
Hi there,I sent your details to Google Wallet,you will receive the invoice today.I will wait for you to make the payment to Google Wallet so the shipping company can begin the shipping process because the car is already in their custody.When you`ll receive the car you`ll have 5 days of inspection like i told you before and in case you won`t like it you can send it back on my cost and Google Wallet will send all your money back.I will also send all the paperwork and a bill of sale which will be already signed and notarized onto your name.If you decide to keep it all your have to do is to sign the transfer papers and announce Google Wallet to release the funds to me.
As I told you in my first email, I recently got divorced. I got a new job and moved to Lincoln Nebraska for a new start. The car is already at the shipping company in Lincoln sealed and ready for the shipping. My presence won't be necessary because I prearranged the deal with Google Wallet. The deal includes free delivery and it will arrive at your address in 3 days. You will have 5 days to try out prior to making any purchase and if by any reason you find something you don't like about it you can send it back at my expense.
If you are interested in knowing more info about how it works, I can ask Google Wallet to send you an email with more information on how to purchase it. Google Wallet will contact you shortly after they have the details with all the information that you need to complete this deal and you will also have proof that I am covered by them and a legitimate seller. If you would like to receive the email from Google Wallet will all the transaction information please reply with your full name and your shipping address and they will contact you right away.
Best Regards! google wallet does not support money transfers she wanted me to send it somewhere in chicago he was my
|reesa huntridge||2/27/13 8:10 PM|
Thank god I am a tight ass and wanted more information. After diving in I found out this was a fraud. I have called the FBI and every other agency I could get my hands on to track the start of this. My son was going to spend his hard earned money to buy this "car". I will not stop until I find out the information I need and a way to stop this! I have a lot of time on my hands to be the bulldog!
|reesa huntridge||2/27/13 8:14 PM|
I am filing with the FBI for fraud. Thankfully we did not get taken but I have a real quest to get to the bottom of this!
|reesa huntridge||2/27/13 8:20 PM|
We never sent the transfer however I am concerned that "they" have my husbands name.
|Mz Rich||3/24/13 9:31 AM|
I almost became a victim of a car scam going through google checkout.I was to buy a 03 Nissan Murano for 1990$ and I felt like it was a steal. I was sent confirmation emails and invoice and routing numbers from a fake google checkout agent.The agent told his name and address like everything was so real.The woman I was buying from I found her ad on Craigslist and it was her idea to go through google checkout to protect us both.The punch line came when I got to reading google checkout terms and conditions when they told me to western union transfer the money to the agent.Thats when I realized this Tara66Lomas@gmail is a scammer because before I read her so called google check out paperwork I had done my own checking I have contacted Goole checkout myself asking their regulations and how they handled the money and the real google checkout agent I contacted told me that google doesn't do money transfer only credit or debit so that the customer will be protected.So I saved my own behind by doing my own research.
|Diane Taylor||4/11/13 8:15 AM|
I am brand new to learning about Google Checkout. This is scary reads.
I have opposite situation where I live in cold weather state and someone from LA wants to use Google Checkout to buy my old 2001 thru Craigslist -site unseen. Reading all these scams here makes me wonder "Could this be a reverse scam some how" ?
|Veronica Petrella||4/15/13 4:23 PM|
I had almost been scammed by these people. I was actually contacted by two different scams in one day. I am amazed that these people are still pulling this scam and I am amazed that no one has been able to stop them from cloning the real google checkout. I have copies of everything they sent me and I plan on distributing it all over facebook and any other places I can put it up. The information looks very real but as I learned when calling google, they do not use western union. While this is a scam, they are not intelligent enough to make their sale flawless to those who are alerted to the scams available.
|GG31||4/15/13 9:00 PM|
Mail from thief :
i used a brokerage company to handle the listings in my behalf. They said they listed it on several locations and websites to increase my selling chances. I'm really sorry for that, but it's not actually my fault.
On Apr 15, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Larry Feldman <my-...@msn.com> wrote:
|Susan Bouchard||4/17/13 1:33 PM|
Yes I hear you - but the scammers appear to be getting wise to this... I inquired about a vehicle listed for sale on kijiji, Edmonton, Canada (this time a 2003 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 for $3,000) and got the same spiel... Divorced... away at work.. The seller's name (this time) was Charlene Pavila and used the email charlen...@gmail.com. I replied with my name, address and phone number, but was suspicious... so I googlled "google wallet scam" and found LOTS of posts around the US and Canada as well as some in Europe (mainly in the UK). I reported it to Google, and the RCMP Anti Fraud Centre... Would have been easier to report it to kijiji had the ad not already been removed! Kijiji is set up to report these kinds of ads directly from the ad itself. Scammers must now know this as the ad was down before I got her (his?) reply this morning.
Thanks to everyone here, the Google Wallet emails the scammer sends (after initial contact) came into my Spam box and were marked as potentially phishing... and I'm on gmail! Gotta ask how legit it could be if google is reporting itself! For the record, though, the fake google wallet invoice comes from google.w...@net-shopping.com
Anyway, thanks to all the posting, I didn't bite... Couldn't resist emailing back, though... Here's what I sent: "Just researched this scam and reported you to kijiji, Google and RCMP anti-fraud centre... Get a life and try working for a living, you pathetic loser."
|manos kyvrikoseos||4/24/13 3:13 PM|
does this look familiar? the ad on kijiji seems to be posted then removed and re-posted. here is the email that i received:
|Juan Da Silva||6/25/13 7:51 AM|
Guess what????????????????? It sounds VERY similar to my story... This is what I got:
Really sorry for the late response and thank you for your interest in buying my SUV. My 2004 Mercedes-Benz ML350 with only 114,758 km, is in excellent condition, automatic transmission, no engine issues, no need for additional repairs, all services are up to date, it has been meticulously maintained. All power options are working properly. The interior looks great with no rips or tears in the seating. Certified & E-tested, no accidents history! My final price is $2,900.
The only reason for selling the SUV is because I recently divorced and I can't afford it anymore, plus I don't have a driver's license. Because I don`t have time to stay and meet with all my potential buyers, I gave the vehicle to Google Wallet who will ship it to the next owner. I want to tell you that the delivery process is already paid and all of my transactions until now were made under Google Wallet's supervision and I wish that we make this deal also by using their services. The best part of this is that you'll get 3 days for inspection, money back guarantee. If at the end of those 3 days you decide not to keep it you'll get a full refund by them.
If you're interested in purchasing just email me with your full name and full shipping address, including phone number, so I can notify Google Wallet that you have been selected as my buyer and they will contact you to explain the entire procedure.
P.S: If you need additional pictures just let me know!