| How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | cs1380 | 9/24/09 10:39 AM | Sidewiki is a terrible idea that robs every webmaster of control over their own sites. I do not want random people or competitors or porn sites controling what people read on my sites. How can we block sidewiki entirely? Do webmasters have to disallo |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | 1918 (deprecated) | 9/24/09 2:33 PM | There is currently no opt-out option |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | cs1380 | 9/24/09 8:13 PM | Until Google dumps this or provides an opt out, web site owners who'd like to retain control of what appears on their own site can block all Google Toolbar users by adding the following to their htaccess file. The "notoolbar.php" points to a file exp |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | 1918 (deprecated) | 9/25/09 4:41 AM | If a site did that to me, I would immediately leave the site. My thinking would be, who the hell are you to tell me what toolbars I can use! There are many people who have the toolbar installed who have no clue it even offers such functionality. Red |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | cs1380 | 9/25/09 5:19 AM | And who the hell is Google to decide what appears on my site? This is exactly why they must provide an opt out; blocking toolbar users is the only way to prevent the abuse SideWiki invites. Side wiki is half useless now and once they provide an opt o |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | 1918 (deprecated) | 9/25/09 9:04 AM | cs1380, I'm with you, but try to keep it in perspective. 1. The comments are not on your site, they are on Google's sidewiki. 2. You have to have the toolbar installed 3. You have to have a Google acct. |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | vich | 9/25/09 9:20 AM | Right, and hardly anyone has a google account or the toolbar installed, right? Saying "comments are not on your site" is weak. They appear in the browser along with your site. Doesn't matter that they're not actually in the html code of the site its |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | JohnMu | 9/25/09 1:17 PM | There's some good information on Search Engine Land about SideWiki, which shows how you as the site-owner can claim the first slot to talk to users accessing your sites: http://searchengineland.com/google-sidewiki-allows-anyone-to-comment-about-any-s |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | cs1380 | 9/25/09 5:50 PM | John, My original question was how do we opt out. Referencing an article about claiming the first spot is feebly self serving and dismissive. Please try to understand that Google employees do not get to force their personal feelings about how the w |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | cs1380 | 9/26/09 11:17 AM | Update: I've been told my original htaccess code might cause infinite loops on some servers. It doesn't on mine, but to be safe you can also try: RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} GTB [NC,OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} GoogleToolbar [NC] RewriteRul |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | Nanacast dot com | 9/26/09 11:56 AM | Here is a solution to the entire issue if Google will only listen: 1. Only allow sidewiki comments on sites that have added a line of code that specifically is designed to signify that they want it. In other words sites participate in sidewiki by op |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | cs1380 | 9/26/09 2:48 PM | Paying for SSL to protect myself from Google isn't a real solution. But thanks anyway. I'm continuing to redirect all GTB6 users to a page with instructions on how to uninstall Toolbar and the message: Google's new "SideWiki" addition to their tool |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | seo101 | 9/26/09 4:44 PM | Google are there to serve the searcher, not the webmaster. Googe will only stop doing this when the users/searchers no longer find it helpful. |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | seo101 | 9/26/09 5:14 PM | Probably be easier to shoot yourself in the foot! |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | Phil Payne | 9/27/09 2:24 AM | And don't make any typos - you can't edit or delete it. |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | 1918 (deprecated) | 9/27/09 5:49 AM | @Phil Payne - I just edited my opening comment on this page: http://www.1918.com/sidewiki-your-new-commenting-service/ Back to the opening question from cs1380 - I think there is a better workaround than sending them off to a page where they can't i |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | cs1380 | 9/27/09 7:53 AM | @1918 - Thanks, that's an interesting find. I'm concerned that in order to be effective, I'd have to rewrite every page request to include an anchor. Plus, now that Google is aware of this they made "correct" for it like they're rumored to be doing a |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | emilesland | 9/28/09 6:40 PM | As a owner of 3 small businesses online starting in 2003, I definitely do not see how this helps searchers FIND web content. Google is a search engine, not Facebook, which is a member only site! It is optional. I use most of Google's tools and I prom |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | Steven Lockey | 9/29/09 2:53 AM | Website owners aren't the Google customers the majority of the time, the searchers are. If Google thinks it will help searchers it is going to go for it. I do think that you should have the ability that if you verify your site in webmaster tools you |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | cs1380 | 9/29/09 12:29 PM | There is now a free script that blocks SideWiki comments without blocking or redirecting all GTB users. http://code.google.com/p/sidewiki-defeat/ |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | Maintainer | 9/30/09 1:10 PM | I'm not sure how I feel about sidewiki. It's certainly nothing new there has been and are other webapps that do much the same thing but sidewiki stands to gain more traction as it's developed by a leader in the industry. I am of two minds of course— |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | 1918 (deprecated) | 9/30/09 1:32 PM | Maintainer- The Sidewiki API allows you to access the comments on a per page or per user basis, so you could integrate it. |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | John | 9/30/09 1:35 PM | "Defeats Sidewiki tracking amalgamation of comments by generating and appending a unique hash to each URL. Works only if there is no hash portion present in the request URL and JavaScript is enabled." Oh MY! In this case, the cure is much worse tha |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | gdwilson | 10/1/09 7:58 PM | JohnMu, "Unmoderated" comments aren't always good. If a site owner wants conversation readily available, he can easily add a comment section. It's also NOT in conversation format since it lists items based on rank and you dont have a hierarchy. To |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | johnfurst | 10/2/09 2:53 AM | I wish for an opt-out feature too, without getting charged for it. I want people to comment directly on the blog or the social media widgets I provide. The big question is. How will users respond. Personally, I am disinterested since its just another |
| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | Cliqz | 10/2/09 8:41 AM | |
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| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | 1918 (deprecated) | 10/2/09 1:11 PM | |
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| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | 1918 (deprecated) | 10/3/09 6:44 PM | |
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| Re: How do webmasters opt out of sidewiki? | 1918 (deprecated) | 10/3/09 7:36 PM | |
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