| Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | RalphSlate | 10/2/12 1:41 PM | My site is http://hockeydb.com. It has been discussed before, so if you don’t feel like discussing it, I’d ask that you at least keep your firebombs to yourself so that this can be a productive discussion among those who are interested. Background: My site |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | cletus van damme | 10/2/12 1:47 PM | Sounds like a nightmare - if it was me I would start over with a new domain name, transfer the databases and just don't repeat anything you did before... Also, you could be hit with that EMD penalty as well... |
| Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | Lysis | 10/2/12 1:53 PM | Tldr Johnmu pretty much told you your issue. |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | clayts | 10/2/12 2:11 PM | Hi Ralph, I am sorry if this has been discussed previously but if you were hit by the penguin update, which it appears that you were, then the changes and fixes you made to resolve the problem will not resolve the issue until Google re-runs a Pengui |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | fathom | 10/2/12 2:13 PM | What you desire does not really support what you want. You don't want advance your obscure name and player profiles... you only want the ranks. So here is how you do it. 1. Take one of those obscure players and place them on your homepage with a link |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | RalphSlate | 10/3/12 4:32 AM | Fathom, I'm not sure I quite understand your viewpoint. I understand that you're saying that the obscure content isn't ranking because it isn't being linked to. That makes sense for competitive niches. However, what I don't understand is why Google d |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | kwd9 | 10/3/12 5:50 AM | Hi Ralph, I really don't understand why you expect help from the level 11,12,13, 14 etc users. I bet none of them can create a site similar to HockeyDb in their whole life ( You can verify this by seeing their websites from their profiles) My only s |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | Diana Rouleau | 10/3/12 6:09 AM | Consider removing the sponsored blocks and also any paid links if you have engaged into them. Try submitting the website for re-inclusion post you take all corrective actions. |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | DaMan | 10/3/12 6:35 AM | Hi Ralph First of all I'd really read into what John said. Unless you fix your onsite issues you won't improve. Secondly, remember pengiun is a webspam algorithm. Whilst I wouldn't qualify your site as "spam" an automatic algorithim might deem othe |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | RalphSlate | 10/3/12 7:54 AM | DaMan, I concur with your opinion, that Google may be mistakenly considering something I'm doing as "webspam". I'm trying to figure out exactly what that might be. Google's guidelines tend to only point out the obvious (like a page with thousands of |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | RalphSlate | 10/3/12 8:08 AM | Hi Diana -- I want to make it clear that I have not engaged in buying, selling, or trading of links. I have a minimal number of outgoing links on my site, all were given by me freely because I liked the other sites, and I did change them to nofollow |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | DaMan | 10/3/12 8:35 AM | The site is blocked to me now so I can't really say, but if you did run xenu on your whole site and everything was under 6/7 thats fine. |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | fathom | 10/3/12 9:02 AM | - You have thin content for obscure topics. - You want to rank [thin content] and Google does not want to rank thin content - you get that right? - I realize all the other domains have equally thin content but why does your thin content deserve rank |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | RalphSlate | 10/3/12 9:07 AM | DaMan, sorry about the IP block - I have lifted it. I get scraped a lot, so about a year ago I put up 'bot detection. Before anyone asks, Google is not being blocked, and the filter is permissive enough to allow virtually all non-bot usage. When peop |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | KCle | 10/3/12 9:34 AM | Ralph, this indeed sounds like a nightmare. I would hold off on making anymore changes to your site. I know its tough, but wait on the next Penguin refresh before taking any further actions. IMHO. |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | RalphSlate | 10/3/12 9:35 AM | Fathom, you're in the topic of "link juice flow" and this is not a topic I'm very familiar with. I'm clearly not a SEO expert. Maybe you can help me understand that point better. You seem to imply that "link juice" flows like pouring water into a ser |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | DaMan | 10/3/12 9:36 AM | Fanthom has a specific way to communicate, but he is basically saying the same thing I am in a more brutal way -- and you are very defensive about accepting it despite being in the hole for so long. You have thin content - doesnt matter how YOU feel |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | DaMan | 10/3/12 9:36 AM | and fathom not fanthom -sry :) |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | fathom | 10/3/12 10:05 AM | PENGUIN is largely about unnatural links which suggests... you have unnatural links to your pages that you lost queries. So you tell us... which links to those pages are UNNATURAL? |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | RalphSlate | 10/3/12 10:58 AM | Unnatural implies that the links were bought or exchanged. As I have said here repeatedly, I don't buy, sell, or exchange links. Now we're into the realm of "what might Google think is an unnatural link?". My links fall into several categories: 1) |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | DaMan | 10/3/12 11:50 AM | In this case I don't agree. Pengiun is an over opt penalty. This relates to links and on site stuff - I wouldn't qualify either one as the larger. Furthermore I dont know why you are beating the bush. John told him its onsite and you are getting der |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | fathom | 10/3/12 12:34 PM | <This message has been deleted.> |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | fathom | 10/3/12 12:36 PM | You absolutely do not listen to yourself - do you? ...and you are not interested in taking anyone's qualified advice either. You don't have a PENGUIN issue. If you had a PENGUIN issue then you would have unnatural links pointing to the pages you lost |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | Lysis | 10/3/12 12:45 PM | Ralphie just likes to hear himself talk. I bet he's that guy at the bar who will argue with you for hours that the sky is not really blue |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | RalphSlate | 10/3/12 1:43 PM | Rod, keep in mind that of all the changes I made, virtually all were based on suggestions made here. So you think your advice is the only one that matters and that everyone else's were worthless? That I'm stubborn because I implemented 20 changes but |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | RalphSlate | 10/3/12 1:47 PM | |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | DaMan | 10/3/12 2:55 PM | |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | RalphSlate | 10/3/12 3:59 PM | |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | DaMan | 10/4/12 3:16 AM | |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | fathom | 10/4/12 4:30 AM | |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | RalphSlate | 10/12/12 7:36 AM | |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | StevieD_Web | 10/12/12 3:53 PM | |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | RalphSlate | 10/15/12 1:42 PM | |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | Lysis | 10/15/12 2:05 PM | |
| Re: Hockeydb.com redux - 161 days of penalty | StevieD_Web | 10/15/12 3:04 PM |