|When searcing for a particular keyword, the snippets that are showing up for my site, dont match anything in code?||CreditGuru||10/20/10 4:46 PM|
When you search particular keywords and my site shows up, the snippets that google is showing for that particualr page, are not on the page, or in the code anywhere. How is this possible? It is doing in only for particular keyword searches, but if you search another keyword and that pages shows up, the correct Title and Title description or snippets from site show up... Any ideas....
|Re: When searcing for a particular keyword, the snippets that are showing up for my site, dont match anything in code?||Michael Martinez||10/20/10 5:34 PM|
What is your Website URL? Which queries do you see this in? It sounds like normal behavior but sharing that information will help hopefully you get a better informed answer.
|Re: When searcing for a particular keyword, the snippets that are showing up for my site, dont match anything in code?||CreditGuru||10/20/10 6:51 PM|
www.creditscorequick.com for keyword credit report and scores free credit score report shows up after search, this is no where on my page....
http://www.creditscorequick.com/prepaid_cards/ for the keyword prepaid visa prepaid visa - Free Credit Score shows up in snippet, this is nowhere on my site....for this particualr page???
|Re: When searcing for a particular keyword, the snippets that are showing up for my site, dont match anything in code?||Michael Martinez||10/20/10 6:57 PM|
Well, for your first page "free credit score report" is link anchor text pointing to the home page on at least one of your pages. Usually when Google grabs something odd for a title in the search listing it means the page is only partially indexed.
However, if you have changed something in your site's configuration recently, I suppose there might be some convoluted chain of events that could cause this. I've seen all sorts of oddball things through the years.
Have you done anything to the site? Anything at all?
|CreditGuru||10/20/10 7:08 PM|
Only to the prepaid card section, nothing to the homepage....
|Michael Martinez||10/20/10 7:14 PM|
I really don't know what to tell you at this point, and I'm afraid I don't have any more time this evening to look at sites. Perhaps someone else will be able to give you some feedback.
|Pelagic||10/21/10 2:09 AM|
|CreditGuru||10/21/10 4:53 AM|
None of these answers resolve anything... anybody eles?
|JohnMu||10/22/10 4:07 AM|
In general, when we run across titles that appear to be sub-optimal, we may choose to rewrite them in the search results. This could happen when the titles are particularly short, shared across large parts of your site or appear to be mostly a collection of keywords. One thing you can do to help prevent this is to make sure that your titles and descriptions are relevant, unique and compelling, without being "stuffed" with too much boilerplate text across your site.
Additionally, while I have you here: I would strongly recommend removing the block of hidden text and hidden links in your footer. This would be seen as a violation of our Webmaster Guidelines.
|CreditGuru||10/22/10 4:27 AM|
Those block of text links at the bottom of the site are links back within parts of my site.... and they are not hidden, you select the link and it droppes down? How is that a violation of google guidlines?
|CreditGuru||10/22/10 4:30 AM|
Also once you select the link at the bottom of site, there is a scroll menu...?
|Richard Hearne||10/22/10 4:37 AM|
Funny one this - let's be honest, that "drop down", as you call it, is absolutely zero use to any human visitor. "[... ] select the link" - that's a good one :-)
Personally I'd be inclined not to argue, and just clean it up.
|CreditGuru||10/22/10 6:04 AM|
Ok guys , we will remove them....
|mickmel||10/25/10 6:06 AM|
It seems like this might be a good thing. You can stuff your title full of keywords, but still have a nice-looking title show up in the SERPS. In a way, it seems to promote keyword stuffing in the title, which certainly isn't a good thing...
|CreditGuru||10/25/10 6:15 AM|
They have been removed, the company that does my SEO recommended it, and he is well known.. that goes to show you that these SEO companies most of the time dont know what they are doing.We are just focusing on tools for end users and quality content....
thanks for the input.
|netmeg3||10/25/10 6:33 AM|
Ok, but I've seen something strange over the past few months where Google is rewriting the title of my home page to the title of my mobile home page. I have a browser detect script that redirects mobile users to that page. They're definitely separate pages, with different titles (the mobile page is on m.example.com, and the title is Example.com for Mobile). So, every few weeks, for one or two days, Google displays the URL of my home page with the TITLE of my mobile page. I don't lose ranking or TBPR or anything else - it just uses the mobile title. Then after a few days (without my doing anything) it goes back to normal. Till the next time it happens. Kind of annoying. I've actually been tracking it to see if I could detect any kind of pattern, and so far I haven't. It's my off season and I'm in the middle of moving to a new platform anyway, but it's still odd.
|CreditGuru||10/25/10 6:38 AM|
I am still having the same issues..the snippets that are showing up are not what is in my title tags, which affects my CTC.... Not sure what to do here either....very wierd stuff
|Richard Hearne||10/25/10 9:19 AM|
@netweg3 - googlebot is probably crawling your mobile site. You should try the Fetch as Googlebot tool inside GWT to see if your script is redirecting googlebot. I'll bet it is, and this is not a good thing.
@CreditGuru - I can see this in the SERP, but the cache looks fine. I'd guess this will shake out over time, as it just looks like bad data somewhere in Google's black box. I'd wait a while longer and see what happens.
|netmeg3||10/25/10 9:32 AM|
@RedCardinal: it's netmeg. And I have used the Fetch tool in GWT and my script is not redirecting Googlebot. Moreover, the mobile page is kept out of the index on purpose.
|Richard Hearne||10/25/10 10:22 AM|
|CreditGuru||10/25/10 10:24 AM|
|Pelagic||10/25/10 11:07 AM|
Your site has many duplicated, very similar titles (and content), in addition you are excessively using varied internal anchor text links throughout your site.
About the Author: Mike XXXXXX is the owner of http://www.creditscorequick.com/. CreditScoreQuick.com is the one of the most unique on-line resources for free credit score report, fico score, free credit check, identity theft protection, secured credit cards, student credit cards , credit cards, mortgage loans, auto loans, insurance and a BlOG with a wealth of personal credit information
The bold bits are internal anchors, italics are to the home page.
JohnMu, explained it perfectly above;
"In general, when we run across titles that appear to be sub-optimal, we may choose to rewrite them in the search results. This could happen when the titles are particularly short, shared across large parts of your site or appear to be mostly a collection of keywords. One thing you can do to help prevent this is to make sure that your titles and descriptions are relevant, unique and compelling, without being "stuffed" with too much boilerplate text across your site. "
And my reply on your other thread.
"Google's creation of sites' titles and descriptions (or "snippets") is completely automated and takes into account both the content of a page as well as references to it that appear on the web."
|CreditGuru||10/25/10 11:10 AM|
Author: Mike Clover
CreditScoreQuick.com your resource for free credit reports, credit cards, loans, and ground breaking credit news
I was not aware this would be a problem.... The links in footer are keyword to what applies. I do recall Matt saying if your site sales credit reports put in in your site.I dont have it stuffed on teh same page, but I do however have it on about the author on each post.I dont see how putting that at ever footer would affect anything....Its a common practice among even the big companies...
|Pelagic||10/25/10 11:15 AM|
That text is boilerplate, similar can be found throughout your site. In addition to that you also have similar in your footers and in the content.
|CreditGuru||10/25/10 11:26 AM|
so you are saying multiple text links with in an article is a no no? and that is what you have found on various pages that could be a problem? If that is the case we will start removing those text links.
|Pelagic||10/25/10 11:26 AM|
You are also allowing duplicate pages to be indexed
Canonicalization - parameter handling, canonical link element
Ps you have two home pages indexed.
|CreditGuru||10/25/10 11:28 AM|
This was suppose to be fixed.... I have my tech team on it. Thanks
|Pelagic||10/25/10 11:30 AM|
Your original problem was why "free credit score report" returned as the snippet in search results. Your titles as a whole are suboptimal, your using varied anchors to each page, specifically you have a large number of "free credit score report" anchors to your home page.
|CreditGuru||10/25/10 11:30 AM|
Ok, We are on it...
|Pelagic||10/25/10 11:35 AM|
You have many pages with very similar content targeting the same keywords, they are effectively competing with each other with consequent filtering, it would be much better to consolidate these similar pages into stronger single pages.
|Pelagic||10/25/10 11:39 AM|
"Minimize boilerplate repetition: For instance, instead of including lengthy copyright text on the bottom of every page, include a very brief summary and then link to a page with more details"
"Minimize similar content: If you have many pages that are similar, consider expanding each page or consolidating the pages into one"
|CreditGuru||10/25/10 11:42 AM|
We have been for a while writing about latest credit news, its really hard not to have simliar content in the credit sector.... We are however doing the best we can now. I will clean up old articles.
|Pelagic||10/25/10 12:18 PM|
Quick example (I just chose this randomly)
You have quite a few other pages on identity theft which are unique so dont need consolidating.
From what I have seen, you have some good quality content :)
|CreditGuru||10/25/10 12:23 PM|
Well most of the content should be unique, I have some really good writers currently... I will clean up the text links in body and footers.
|Pelagic||10/25/10 12:25 PM|
Your also duplicating your content on blogspot
|Pelagic||10/25/10 12:27 PM|
|CreditGuru||10/25/10 12:28 PM|
I have not posted on that in years, I need to take it down.
|netmeg3||10/25/10 1:03 PM|
@RedCardinal - if you were directing the request for URL to me, no can do. I don't post URLs in forums, neither my own or for clients. (I come from WMW - we don't do that there) Not particularly looking for a fix, just reporting what I see.
|Pelagic||10/25/10 1:20 PM|
@Netmeg, you could start you own thread and mask the url with a url shortening service if you so choose. There could be various reasons for what you are observing.
|CreditGuru||10/25/10 3:38 PM|
The wierd thing about all of this is this google blog was converted over to Wordpress, not sure why this is still showing up... I have let my IT guys know though
|Pelagic||10/25/10 3:54 PM|
<meta name="description" content="." />
At least your converted pages have title and descriptions!
Mike, Get them to 301 redirect those old pages to the new ones
|CreditGuru||10/25/10 6:40 PM|
|Richard Hearne||10/26/10 1:41 AM|
>> @RedCardinal - if you were directing the request for URL to me, no can do. I don't post URLs in forums, neither my own or for clients. (I come from WMW - we don't do that there) Not particularly looking for a fix, just reporting what I see.
Yes, it was directed at you. If you'd like people here to take a look then you'll need to provide details. This isn't WMW, and the posting of URLs is required here for any sort of useful response in cases like this.
I've seen mobile site redirects cause all sorts of havoc, as Googlebot accepts (or at least used to accept) mobile content. This caught up a lot of these scripts, and I know that the script launched by the .mobi company caused much pain a few years ago because of this issue.
You could post your URL with a shortener to mask it if it helped.
|Arpit Srivastava||11/1/10 7:06 AM|
As for meta description is concerned, Google sometimes picks for the open directory project in case it could not find suitable snippet from the content or meta description tag.