| COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | www.nuts.com | 1/26/12 9:07 AM | I have read the FAQs and checked for similar issues: YES My site's URL (web address) is: http://nuts.com Description (including timeline of any changes made): On January 6th, we submitted a change of address for http://www.nutsonline.com to http://nuts.com. We followe |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | alistair.lattimore | 1/26/12 4:40 PM | Google is crawling & indexing your new domain, you can check yourself with a search like [site:http://nuts.com]. I've checked a few different URLs for your old website & the 301 redirects you've implemented seem to be working. Regarding the 3 weeks statemen |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | www.nuts.com | 1/27/12 5:16 AM | Thanks for your help! Many of the old urls in the index fall under our site search (see: site:http://www.nutsonline.com/search). On our new domain, we have a robots.txt disallow for these and noindex, nofollow, but any ideas on coaxing these old urls out |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | alistair.lattimore | 1/27/12 5:48 AM | That is happening because your http://nutsonline.com/search URLs are being redirected into http://nuts.com/search, which is restricted via robots.txt. To resolve that, you should apply a meta robots noindex,follow to http://nuts.com/search & remove the robots.txt restric |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | www.nuts.com | 1/27/12 10:04 AM | why follow versus nofollow? |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | alistair.lattimore | 1/27/12 1:46 PM | When google crawl your search URLs, you want them to follow the URLsthey discover to other pages on your site and you want PageRank to floe through all the URLs. The follow isn't really needed I guess, it is the default behaviour but I say it in gene |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | www.nuts.com | 1/27/12 8:26 PM | thanks. removed the robots.txt restriction. do we just have to sit back and wait now? how long have you seen this process take for rankings to come back? remember, the majority of the old links in the index aren't the pages we were ranking on. o |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | alistair.lattimore | 1/27/12 9:20 PM | You've got over 100,000 pages indexed still, so it could take 4-8 weeks. Whenever I've done this in the past, I make sure it is setup correctly and check back once a week or fortnight to check on the progress. Since your core pages are already inde |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | www.nuts.com | 2/17/12 3:24 AM | Hi Al! We did everything you suggested. Today marks 6 weeks. No improvement in rankings still. Is there something else wrong or that we are missing here? Thanks ~Jeff |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | alistair.lattimore | 2/17/12 6:14 AM | Jeff, I don't think so. Everything seems to be progressing and you've now got ~66000 URLs indexed under your old domain, down from over 130000 URLs. You might want to review your top landing pages from before/after the change to see if anything has c |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | www.nuts.com | 2/18/12 4:01 AM | The only thing that changed was us eliminating the duplicate content and changing nutsonline to http://nuts.com in the title tags. |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | alistair.lattimore | 2/18/12 4:57 AM | Jeff, Did the fall in rankings and/or traffic happen exactly when you changed domains or on a slightly different date? The reason I ask, maybe you've been affected by Google Panda and your just happened to move domains at a similar time & that isn't |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | www.nuts.com | 2/18/12 5:58 AM | Hi Al, Yeah, the traffic dropped to the precise day of the change. January 6th! ~Jeff |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | alistair.lattimore | 2/18/12 1:28 PM | The latest Google Panda update to your date was Google Panda 3.2 and was released around January 25, so it isn't that. What sort of drop in traffic did you see on that date? |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | webado | 2/18/12 1:35 PM | The same day as a domain change takes place it's highly likely that the DNS propagation had not yet completed so your site was in fact unreachable for many visitors. For your robots.txt file you also need an actual directive under the user agent li |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | www.nuts.com | 2/18/12 1:57 PM | Al, this is our proportional google organic traffic from January 1 of this year. I say proportional because I didn't want to provide our precise traffic, so I divided it by the same factor for each day. You can understand my distress: 1/1/12 |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | alistair.lattimore | 2/19/12 4:25 AM | Jeff, Is Google Webmaster Tools or Bing Webmasters reporting any errors before/after the change of domain? I mentioned above about comparing two time periods (before/after) using the Top Landing Pages report in Google Analytics with only the non-paid |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | www.nuts.com | 2/20/12 5:43 AM | Al, thanks again for being some thoughtful on this. We have a few errors, but all relate to normal things, like 404s for products that were discontinued. Unfortunately we are seeing a drop across the board, and not related to any one section. Howe |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | alistair.lattimore | 2/21/12 12:50 AM | You mentioned that your traffic has declined across the board. Have you segmented your keywords to see if you can find anything? For instance you might want to check before/after for brand/non-brand keywords as a starting point. You can see the HTTP |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | www.nuts.com | 2/21/12 3:21 AM | Hey again Al! Yeah, I did segment my keywords. Unfortunately, my top keyword went from ranking 1 to 11 or so, so 95% of that traffic is down. When I exclude this keyword as well as all brand related keywords, my organic traffic is down 60% from go |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | alistair.lattimore | 2/21/12 10:52 PM | I have no idea if this is a possibility, however I wonder if you've been temporarily penalised by Google Panda? As you know, Google periodically compute Google Panda scores. I wonder if it's possible that because you're switching domains that your n |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | JohnMu | 2/22/12 2:00 PM | Hi Jeff I'm sorry to hear that it's been this frustrating for your site. We worked hard to make our systems as fast and as pain-free as possible when it comes to site moves, so it's particularly frustrating for us to see situations where algorithmic |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | www.nuts.com | 2/22/12 2:12 PM | Thanks John! Excellent point about geotargeting. Many people from the UK are really looking for a magazine there. I will set it to the US now. Should we put the change of address back in place in webmaster tools, or does it not matter at this poi |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | jonny_london | 2/29/12 1:54 AM | Feel your pain, we went through this process (althought moving from a subdomain to our main www domain) and it was a nightmare. We ended up with 2 or 3 short penalties over the following year or so, but the thing that I worry about most for you is th |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | alistair.lattimore | 2/29/12 4:50 AM | jonny_london, I guess the thing is that Google needs to check on those URLs because they are still referenced all over the internet. As such, those links produce PageRank for the URL that you've 301 redirected but Google must periodically check nothi |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | webado | 2/29/12 6:10 AM | |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | jonny_london | 3/1/12 2:13 AM | |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | alistair.lattimore | 3/1/12 4:45 AM | |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | jonny_london | 3/1/12 9:17 AM | |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | Joooh | 4/19/12 4:48 PM | |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | alistair.lattimore | 4/19/12 9:52 PM | |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | Joooh | 4/21/12 9:33 AM | |
| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | Phil Payne | 4/21/12 9:46 AM | |
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| Re: COA, 301s, rel=canonical, 3 weeks and rankings still down | alistair.lattimore | 5/3/12 5:29 AM | |
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