| best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 17:11 | i have pages that contain some dynamic content. i am able to generate a "static" version of this dynamic content and include it in my html pages so that this content gets indexed by the search engines. this "static" content is invisible from the norm |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | RainboRick | 10/06/19 17:44 | Generally speaking, it is a violation of the guidelines of all of the major search engines to include content in your pages that is only visible to the search engines. Using <noscript> would mitigate that issue, but I wouldn't count on the search en |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | webado | 10/06/19 17:55 | What do you mean by identical "dynamic" content ? |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 18:08 | i know, of course, this would be "cloaking". but this is not the case here. the contents visible to the viewer contains the same text, but the text in question is in DOM elements that are normally dynamically generated. there is an example on this pa |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 18:23 | so any content that is in a <noscript> section is virtually ignored by search engines? so when you have ajax-based sites with lots of dynamic content (for which you can provide the same content in static form, like here), what is the preferred / reco |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | webado | 10/06/19 18:26 | Not at all. On the contrary. But its justification has to be that it is equivalent to whatever is otherwise visible in javascript. So in case you serve something drastically different in noscript than what yo have in a script, it's possible either |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 18:30 | ouch - thanks for the heads-up... yes, there is a comment before the doc-type.... i didn't realize html comments were not allowed before the doc-type, i'll have to fix that :( |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | webado | 10/06/19 18:34 | It's not that they are not allowed, but anything before the doctype makes the browser render the page in quirks mode, and then parts of the stylesheet largely no longer work. In any case that page has tons of errors: http://validator.w3.org/check? |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | webado | 10/06/19 18:37 | IE7. Quirks mode is different for every browser. I see what you wanted to have in Chrome. One heck of a busy page. Well fix your markup and your css (http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?profile=css2&warning=2&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.loupi |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 18:39 | ewww, yes, this is fixed now on this page. it was a recent change and i forgot to pass that in the checker. doc-type is duplicated - shouldn't be a problem, and it will be fixed once many pages have been regenerated, in a little while. |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | webado | 10/06/19 18:42 | You also have a javascript error reproted as being line 890 - object expected. I've not figured out just what it is. |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 18:44 | ok, i'll look into that javascript error, thanks. but at least you should be able to see that static / dynamic text i mentioned... |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | webado | 10/06/19 18:45 | Still the same. |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 18:53 | i can see it with IE7... so basically, what i am doing is ok, i.e. have the exact same dynamic content inside a <noscript> section. so you just don't agree with RainboRick who says that "any content that is in a <noscript> section is virtually ignor |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | webado | 10/06/19 19:20 | I neither agree nor disagree. I want to understand what exactly you are doing and asking. I am seing a basically unstyled page in IE7. I don't understand which is your dynamic content and which is the static content. Looks all the same. |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 19:41 | i see a slyled page with IE7, FF and Chrome - maybe a cache issue? if you have javascript enabled, under the image you should have a js-kit block that allows users to enter a comment, and one comment under that box. this is all in ajax-generated DOM |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 19:41 | yes, they look the same, indeed, that's the idea. if they looked different, it would be like, hmmm, cloaking. |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | webado | 10/06/19 19:45 | I've been refreshing no end, both with F5 and CTRL F5. Anyway, doesn't matter. Doesn't sound like anything bad, but unless I see the dynamic thing, I cannot imagine why you'd have both. |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 19:46 | ohhh i see, looks like a problem on the page i indicated. try this one: http://www.loupiote.com/photos/833171367.shtml there should be a comment on it. in both dynamic and static form... |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | webado | 10/06/19 19:49 | Same issue. |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 19:52 | i tested with IE7, FF and Chrome, and i see the comment. but sometimes http://js-kit.com might not be serving the comments, based on your location, or maybe your server blocks http://js-kit.com etc, in which case you will see a "Loading..." under "Your Comments". |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 19:53 | Same issue... you mean that you don't see the js-kit comment box in which you can input some text, under "Your Comments"? |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 19:55 | <noscript><div id="jskit-feed">... </div></noscript> (so only visible if javascript is disabled) |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | webado | 10/06/19 20:02 | OK I saw it FF with and without JS. I think it's OK to sue noscript that way. FWIW. You really really have to fix your markup and css, you have a really bad page in IE7. No idea how you happen to see it OK. Are you using IE8 with compatibility or w |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 20:07 | i use IE7, and i do see the ads. and the javascript debugger doesn't trip on any error. strange. i use "DebugBar" on IE7. i'm on windows XP SP3 with all security updates installed. also tested with FF, the javascript debugger does not trip on any e |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 20:08 | |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | webado | 10/06/19 20:16 | |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 20:22 | |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | webado | 10/06/19 20:24 | |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 20:30 | |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 20:32 | |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | webado | 10/06/19 20:32 | |
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| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 20:33 | |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 20:36 | |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/19 21:29 | |
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| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/20 14:29 | |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | dwing_slp | 10/06/25 23:30 | |
| Re: best way to include static content in dynamic pages? | loupiote | 10/06/25 23:36 |