| Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/16 16:22 | I have read the FAQs and checked for similar issues: YES My site's URL is: http://www.seomofo.com/marketing/seo-for-affiliate-links.html http://www.seomofo.com/ethics/using-javascript-to-hide-links.html Description: I am currently using JavaScr |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | kidcobra | 10/06/16 16:27 | Hi SEOmofo. If you show Googlebot one thing, and users another, you are playing with fire. Google needs to see what a user will see, not what you want them to see or not see if it's different than what a searcher will see if Google sends them to you |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | kidcobra | 10/06/16 16:31 | Hi again. Here is the releveant quote from the guidelines: Quality guidelines - basic principles - Make pages primarily for users, not for search engines. Don't deceive your users or present different content to search engines than you display to |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/16 16:33 | @kidcobra, QUOTE: "Google needs to see what a user will see, not what you want them to see or not see if it's different than what a searcher will see if Google sends them to your site." I don't get that impression from this auto-response: http:// |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/06/16 16:38 | Yup. And I seriously covered my behind with; "... ============= Are you sure you want to do it? ============= After reading the text immediately about (There may be some Downsides), are you 100% sure you want to do it? At the end of the day - |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/16 16:40 | @kidcobra, QUOTE: "Keep it simple, keep it transparent, no reason to jump thru those hoops." The reasons for jumping through these hoops are: 1. Prevent passing PageRank through affiliate links. 2. Decrease the amount of time it takes to load the |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | kidcobra | 10/06/16 16:41 | HI SEOmofo. You got a direct quote from the Google guidelines which says don't show users different content than search engines. It can't be more clear. You are misinterpreting the auto response to justify deceiving Google. Refer to my playing with |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/06/16 16:43 | So - the Big Question is ..... .... ... .. . ? Why ? Why do you want to avoid showing your affiliate stuff to Google? The only conceivable reasons I can .... well ... conceive of (darn sucky sentence!) are; * you don't want the additional Links t |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | webado | 10/06/16 16:44 | So add rel="nofollow" to the normal html links and you're done. No need to use javascript. But in fact you can use it, after all Adsense and other ad server servcies do that, and it will work to prevent discovery and crawling fo the urls quite OK. |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/06/16 16:47 | AdSense is actually a semi-valid example. Tehre's a few others like it too .... and a few Feed services that are JS reliant. But I think - as with quite a few things for G - it's "intent" that carries the weight. If G perceives it as an attempt at m |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | kidcobra | 10/06/16 16:47 | SEOmofo, you are wasting your time. Both of those reasons show an intent to violate Google guidelines and fool and deceive Google. Great idea... let's load all outgoing links only to users, not to Google so they don't dilute pagerank. Do you think y |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/16 16:56 | @Autocrat, QUOTE: "After reading the text immediately about (There may be some Downsides), |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | webado | 10/06/16 17:01 | Sorry Autocrat and kidcobra, I disagree. The intent is vis-à-vis the robots. As long as you do not show robots MORE content than you show humans, and if you do not show robots links that can pass pagerank which should not, it's OK. So javascript, f |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/16 17:03 | @kidcobra, QUOTE: "SEOmofo, you are wasting your time. Both of those reasons show an intent to violate Google guidelines and fool and deceive Google." I am indeed wasting my time...but only because I've already had this conversation. With myself. |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/06/16 18:05 | ...webado... Disagreeing is fine. And to be honest - there are times when I think such things are sensible. But so far - the OP hasn't said anything that suggests a "valid" reason - other than as ...kidcobra... points out, it looks like efforts for |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | webado | 10/06/16 18:16 | Yeah, that's why I added that qualifier too :) |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | kidcobra | 10/06/16 18:35 | Hmmmmmmmm. From: http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=66355Cloaking, sneaky Javascript redirects, and doorway pages "Use of JavaScript is an entirely legitimate web practice. However, use of JavaScript with the intent to de |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/16 19:58 | @kidcobra, From: http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=66736 Buying or selling links that pass PageRank is in violation of Google's webmaster guidelines and can negatively impact a site's ranking in search results. N |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/16 20:11 | OFF-TOPIC RANT: Seriously...why can't I find information on how to mark up my Help Forum responses? I'd like to make links, blockquotes, code examples, etc. I just tried HTML and it didn't work, but I see other contributors using formatted text...ho |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | webado | 10/06/16 21:09 | You need to go up a few more levels :) |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/16 21:34 | Are you telling me only the top contributors have the "privilege" of formatting their comments? That seems absolutely absurd to me, but even if that's the case, why isn't that information posted somewhere obvious? |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | webado | 10/06/16 21:41 | No, but you need to go up just a few more levels. Mainly its' a deterrent for spamming with links that can be clicked. The other goodies are just perks for sticking around and contributing to the forum. |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/16 22:24 | UPDATE! I just found something on Maile Ohye's blog that pretty clearly states that my technique is not only acceptable...it's actually something Google engineers are working towards implementing. From: http://maileohye.com/google-site-performance |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Richard Hearne | 10/06/17 1:20 | What you're doing is unlikely to matter. Why you're doing it is actually all the more relevant. If you want to hide this content because you think it might affect Google's perceived quality of your page then you might get into trouble. |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | kidcobra | 10/06/17 5:09 | Hi. You are misinterpreting that quote to somehow say it's fine to show bots and users different things. It's not OK, and that quote doesn't say it is. If you put in a noscript tag for users without java and for bots, a tag that has the same content |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/06/17 5:46 | ...SEOmofo... you provided this Source & Quote; "... From: http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=66736 Buying or selling links that pass PageRank is in violation of Google's webmaster guidelines and can negatively im |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Becky Sharpe | 10/06/17 7:58 | As an SEO–the best in the world, as a matter of fact–my primary concern is avoiding the potential “evaporation” of PageRank that might occur as the result of nofollowed affiliate links in my page content. Therefore, my super-advanced SEO solution mus |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/06/17 8:19 | ROFLMAO |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | luzie | 10/06/17 8:24 | Hi SEOmofo, >>> THE USER'S EXPERIENCE: >>> ........ >>> GOOGLEBOT'S EXPERIENCE: >>> ........ You forgot to mention: THE GOOGLE TOOLBAR'S EXPERIENCE: ... *ggg* A couple of visitors with the Google-toolbar activated in their browsers suffice to l |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | kidcobra | 10/06/17 8:50 | I was just starting to wonder when the cavalry would arrive :) |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/06/17 10:18 | Yup - there's ...luzie... - riding his Camel! (Or is that one a Horse? Which one has the hump?) (No bad attitude jokes about "hump" :D) |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/17 10:18 | @Autocrat, QUOTE: |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/17 12:07 | @Becky Sharpe, QUOTE: |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | webado | 10/06/17 12:19 | That will do. There's no call for insult hurling. |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | kidcobra | 10/06/17 12:34 | Specious is the first word that came to mind when seeing this argument. Google wants to know what you are putting on the page for users. It's the only way they can operate a search engine. The policy and reasons for it are crystal clear and those cle |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Becky Sharpe | 10/06/17 12:47 | A nice word Greg, and apt, too. The cavalry were a bit late because we were waiting for fresh horses; I mean - when did you ever see the cavalry ever arrive at less than at a full gallop or on a dusty, sweaty horse - or indeed any earlier than the el |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/17 13:05 | @luzie, QUOTE: |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/17 13:22 | @kidcobra, QUOTE: |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Sebastian | 10/06/17 16:21 | Meh. Darren's approach is perfectly legit, IMHO. I'm even serving search engine crawlers a bold 403 when they request the destination of my (usually condomized) aff links put with client sided scripts. Disallowing a script that serves ads, or cross l |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/06/17 16:31 | Yes/No to the load times. It permits "initial" viewing faster. The rest of the content is then loaded after. That doesn't mean you are reducing the load times per-se, just the rendering is staggered. (Which - admittedly - is nicer than straight loadi |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/17 22:48 | @Autocrat, QUOTE: |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | luzie | 10/06/18 0:28 | Alright. The toolbar can monitor user behaviour. It'll detect that your visitors sometimes leave your site towards another one. How? The bot didn't see any links there? Quite a contradiction, is it? Something must be wrong with your site, let's send |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | JohnMu | 10/06/18 0:56 | Hi Darren I think you're mixing two unrelated topics: 1. You're hiding links from Googlebot. Personally, I wouldn't recommend doing that as it makes it harder to properly understand the relevance of your website. I also doubt that you'd see any ki |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | ColinMcDermott | 10/06/18 3:56 | Would it be fair to say then John - it is basically a bad idea to ever try and hide something from Google, whether it is a link, form, hidden element, featured content slider etc? |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | GremlinSA | 10/06/18 4:35 | As rule of thumb.. The only reason to show different content, on any page is, if the user is logged in or not .... On my forum site I have two 'versions' of most pages.. Not logged in... (Public User) - The page shows a welcome text (Register and lo |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/06/18 4:53 | I can still see where the OP is coming from - up to a point. If they had focused on PageSpeed, improved User Experience, content refinement etc.. ... it wouldn't ahve been so bad. Yet instead the primary focus is given as altering how G perceives th |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Jono Alderson | 10/06/18 5:17 | I disagree entirely, Autocrat - he's repeatedly emphasised that the focus of his suggestions is upon the benefits for the end user in terms of page speed, and that the 'manipulation' of Google is purely a means to an end designed to adhere the intent |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/06/18 6:22 | Question in return - did you actually bother reading through the OPs original blog post and all of this topic? I have to ask, as I'm thinking you may have missed a few bits. If you did - you would clearly see the primary motivation is naff all to do |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/06/18 6:30 | And ... a quick step and follow... "... |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/18 21:19 | @JohnMu, Virtually everything you said in your response is either false or invalid, and I will gladly disprove/discredit all of it in my next blog post. @Autocrat, I will re-post one of my previous comments, since you and your fellow "Top Contri |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | JohnMu | 10/06/19 0:16 | Hi Darren Feel free to post the URL of a page that you are having trouble optimizing to load in less than 15 seconds. I'm pretty sure someone here can help improve the loading and rendering time. Cheers John |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/19 0:29 | @JohnMu, QUOTE: |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | salop | 10/06/20 2:16 | hello SEOmofo. I think u have to live with your decision to change your site and that such change needs more load time. You can change it back if you really feel that the load time isnt what you expect. i think if seo were a form of sport hiding som |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Richard Hearne | 10/06/20 6:54 | @SEOmofo you're moving the goal posts, and then using non-relevant examples (15 seconds waiting for ad servers). Your original post said that you were deferring the load of your own content, not content from a 3rd party. I doubt this was ever about u |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/06/20 7:47 | Personally I think the whole purpose has nothing to do with PR Manipulation or Load Times etc. It's the OP - attempting to create a stink and get a bit of infamy/notoriety. I've personally ignored the questions as a) They are loaded b) Have little r |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | luzie | 10/06/20 9:01 | It's nothing but the easiest thing to do: 1. Use that technique of yours if you need it to speed up rendering, nothing against that ... > 2. > ... but at the same time don't block Googlebot from reading your javascript (Otherwise, could you explain |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/20 16:48 | @Autocrat, @RedCardinal, @luzie, QUOTE: |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/20 18:33 | @Autocrat, QUOTE: |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Richard Hearne | 10/06/21 1:15 | Wow - you lack the ability to make a cogent argument don't you? |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/21 1:55 | @RedCardinal, QUOTE: |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/06/21 2:03 | I'm now pretty much convinced... 1) The OP isn't actually reading what is posted, but merely looking for potential negatives to whinge about. 2) The OP is still squirming (Being called out on their feeble attempt at it being UX, they now jump back |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/06/21 2:05 | Do you really need one of us to go through all your posts in this topic? Would it help if we showed you when/where you got called out for PR Manipulation, then you switched to claiming it was UX, thgen you going back to PR ? Would that help you see |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/06/21 2:10 | Or how about you just call it quits? You came here - you posted, you got responses, and a response from a GE. You haven't apparently liked a single one. You aren't going to like anything that follows either. So just walk away. |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/21 2:32 | @Autocrat, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to waste any more time disproving your outlandish theories. You aren't providing any new or useful information; you're just trying to be offensive and disruptive. This thread is clearly beyond the scope of you |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | GremlinSA | 10/06/21 2:43 | Lets go back to the OP (It's there at the top of the page...) GOOGLEBOT'S EXPERIENCE: 1. Googlebot requests my web page. 2. The web page is served without any affiliate links or content. 3. My external .js file is blocked by robots.txt. 4. Google n |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/06/21 3:04 | @GremlinSA, I absolutely agree with you. The thing that troubles me is that John Mueller failed to mention this. Instead, he made false statements and misquoted his only source. Thank you for actually taking the time to understand the question. :) |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/06/21 3:45 | Okay. How did JM make False Statements? Which ones where false? What did JM Misquote? What is the original source of the quote - and what is it meant to be quoted as/pertaining too? . You are sat there all angry and lashing out - and to be honest |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | GremlinSA | 10/06/21 3:55 | Auto: I give up on this one.... I have two diagnosed Skitzo's in my family, and i definitely see exactly the same here from the OP... My last comment... It does not matter how you serve up the content to users.. Use any technique you like to provid |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Richard Hearne | 10/06/21 4:17 | Your blog posts all stated this technique was used for hiding affiliate links. Again you're changing the stated goal to suit your own argument. If you want to defer 3rd party content fine, and yes it will likely improve UX.If you just want to hide yo |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | luzie | 10/06/21 5:03 | I readily admitted it (did you miss that?). I just don't understand why a disallow in robots.txt is necessary for the task. As long as you circumvent this question again and again we`re discussing in vain ... >>> ... Hey Matt Cutts I'm hiding links |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Everfluxx | 10/06/23 17:07 | My two cents, @SEOmofo: 1. Extremely interesting question: very borderline, and thus -by definition- intriguing for any open-minded SEO. :) It's not the first time I see someone ask it, though: if you're interested, I'll be glad to point you to at l |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Chris Hunt | 10/06/24 6:43 | They do so because it is good advice. The potential risks outweigh the benefits of any attempted manipulation, so you're recommended not to do it. You may still decide that it's worth the risk - good luck! I hope you don't need it. |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | ColinMcDermott | 10/06/24 7:06 | Jolly well put. |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Cortina1BSA | 10/06/30 12:20 | I can confirm that Matt Cutts said they are now reading JavaScript links at SMX Seattle. The expert panels said that they use AJAX to hide their links. Google believes showing results to the Google Bot that differ from results shown to humans is ba |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | 53north | 10/06/30 13:24 | How long does it take the Gbot to crawl a site? If it's more than 15secs, surely it'll notice the ads.. Or am I too green to know what I'm talking about.?. =o} |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | adityavarshney | 10/07/04 2:11 | javascript doesnot remove anything from page http://www.uniidetech.com |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/07/04 3:32 | I get nothing for that Domain ... and you don't exactly give a clue as to what we are meant to find. Wouldn't be a spam post for a new domain would it? |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | AndyBeard | 10/07/23 18:20 | I have some similar code to Darren, but my code 1. Converts all anchor links on a page that include nofollows to encoded spans 2. The javascript decodes the encrypted spans It is totally dynamic, no links have to be hard coded in the javascript, li |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Chris Hunt | 10/07/28 1:12 | Do you have a link to where he said this? It doesn't sound very likely. If PR is passed down links that are "nofollowed", what's the point of nofollow? |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | GremlinSA | 10/07/30 0:12 | HA.. I cant believe that we did not find this one, as it was posted on YT in march... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBO-1ETf_dY&feature=channel Matt answered the question long time before it was asked... |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | AndyBeard | 10/08/19 13:44 | Chris Sorry it has taken me a while to get back to this, and I didn't get any reply notifications. Matt's statement was very well publicised through most webmaster channels http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/pagerank-sculpting/ rel="nofollow" is not w |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/08/20 0:00 | Hmmmmmm 1) NoFollow works Exactly how it should - it tells GoogleBot to ignore that URL (so it won't at it to it's crawling list). 2) What NoFollow doesn't do (but originally did) is exclude the link from the total of links on a page for Caclulatin |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | GremlinSA | 10/08/20 0:32 | ADMIN'S .. Please lock this thread... it's going nowhere ...... |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/08/20 1:13 | @Autocrat, You really have no idea how Google (Bing, Yahoo, etc.) handles the nofollow attribute. Anybody can say "googlebot ignores nofollowed links," but that's a "For Dummies" explanation that conveniently avoids the technical details of how sear |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/08/20 2:21 | Erm ... okay. So how does Google handle nofollow? Care to step up and educate? No. Of course not. NoFollow means exactly what it says on the tin. Google will Not pay any attention to the links destination URL in regards to using it as a source for |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Chris Hunt | 10/08/20 2:59 | @Andy Thanks for the link, but I still don't see Matt Cutts stating anywhere that "links using nofollow can evaporate PageRank". You may think that's the implication of what he said, but that makes it your opinion not his. |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/08/20 10:07 | @Chris Matt Cutts: "Instead of the PageRank flowing around naturally on your site, some of it just sort of evaporates or disappears." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SAPUx4Beh8#t=49s |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/08/20 11:34 | Never ceases to amaze me how people manage to take what they want from the G Docs/Vids etc. 1) That was refering to Internal Links 2) He was explaining that using NoFollow can result in PR not flowing through Links 3) He was stating that you should |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/08/20 12:08 | @Autocrat, I posted the video in response to Chris. He said he couldn't find an example of Matt Cutts saying that nofollow evaporates PageRank. I provided him with an example. Your comment didn't deserve a response, but if you're feeling left out... |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | cash7c3 | 10/08/26 22:19 | how would one go about bocking extrenal adservers with a robot.txt? |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/08/27 12:48 | @cash7c3, 1.) Link to an intermediate URL (on a domain you control) instead of directly to the ad server URL. 2.) Configure your server (e.g. via .htaccess) to redirect the intermediate URL to the ad server URL. 3.) Disallow the intermediate URL |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | AndyBeard | 10/08/28 21:38 | Autocrat 1) Nofollow works exactly how Google are interpreting it currently, which might not be the same as Yahoo or Microsoft 2) That isn't the whole calculation - Google haven't stated what happens with the "reset vector" - testing which is what |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | GuardianGI | 10/09/13 3:22 | "Should I provide the best user experience possible, or should I provide the best user experience that doesn't manipulate Google?" I'd just like to comment on this... as has been said you have a technique that slightly improves user experience and u |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/09/13 6:32 | ...AndyBeard... My apologies ... I utterly missed your response (which I actually enjoyed :D) . "... |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | JoomlaBear | 10/09/19 3:46 | Why does Google in this very forum cloak it's own links???? Is that not deceptive???? For example a simple link to Youtube: http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D4SAPUx4Beh8&source=video&vgc=rss&usg=AFQjCNE-coosOy8Tbdq7BFVZp5 |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | JoomlaBear | 10/09/19 4:18 | Late to the party here. I'm with SEOmofo and Andy Beard on this one. There are some very real issues here that need to be addressed; Darren's approach is not "evil" and should not be discounted so swiftly. I notice a lot of the "Bionic Posters" gle |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | GremlinSA | 10/09/19 7:17 | 'http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D4SAPUx4Beh8&source=video&vgc=rss&usg=AFQjCNE-coosOy8Tbdq7BFVZp5IdfZgUtQ' That is actually part of googles own internal tracking ... Any of the links in the search results have the same |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | JoomlaBear | 10/09/19 9:06 | Actually, the links are 302 redirected. Check the headers. |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/09/20 2:45 | 1) We are discussing Hiding Links/Content from Googlebot, but showing it to Users, and focusing onthe aspect of doing this to alter how G perceives the site/pages/content. (I make the additional point of the focus, as it is different than simply say |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | luzie | 10/09/20 3:31 | @JoomlaBear, |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/09/20 8:19 | Whether the tactic is being used for tracking, comment management systems, preventing PR flow to paid links, or just good ol' fashioned search engine manipulation...it's still the same tactic. You guys keep bringing up intent like it has some kind of |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/09/20 8:38 | We bring up "intent" as Google brings up intent. There are Numerous topics around here, as well as a few of hte MC vids, where the word "intent" is used. If the site is reviewed by G at any point, and is deemed as intending to manipulate, then it m |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/09/20 10:08 | RE: intent Webmaster intent isn't machine readable, and individual site reviews isn't scalable. Sooner or later, Google will have to face the reality that static HTML content is becoming the exception in a world of dynamic, asynchronous content and |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | webado | 10/09/20 11:19 | What??? |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | kidcobra | 10/09/20 12:35 | Hi SEOmofo. It's been a while. About your last answer: "Webmaster intent isn't machine readable..." That is completely untrue. Of course intent is machine readable. G may read your intent wrong, just like a person might read it wrong. And G may be b |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/09/20 16:57 | Hi Greg, RE: Of course intent is machine readable. Yes, intent in general is machine readable--even human emotions are machine readable--but I'm talking specifically about Google's ability to discern whether a page was designed by a webmaster with |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/09/21 3:20 | *sigh* Some people simply cannot handle being told if they are wrong, or if others deem them wrong, can they. *sigh* . I liked the Intent example, and agree with it too. No one is saying the G is a mind reader, and if you bothered to actually read |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/09/21 8:26 | I am deeply saddened to see you go. Each second you're gone is like a thousand years of torture and heartache. This world is meaningless without you, my love. |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | kidcobra | 10/09/21 9:57 | HI SEOmofo. You said this in response to my question shown below with your answer: |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/09/21 21:09 | Hi Greg, You make some good points, but IMO the noscript tag is not the ideal solution for affiliate marketing links. Here are a few reasons/scenarios that come to mind: 1. Affiliate links usually = banners If you are part of an affiliate progra |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/09/23 8:54 | Here's a new video from Matt Cutts that mentions the use of asynchronous JavaScript to lazy-load advertisements. If you hate watching videos, don't worry...I'll summarize it for you: SEOmofo was right all along. |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | kidcobra | 10/09/23 9:33 | HI SEOmofo. Nice video. I didn't see the part where all webmaster guidelines go out the window, and that it's OK to show Google one thing and users another. Assumedly you would not think it would be OK to violate 5 other guidelines in conjunction wit |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | luzie | 10/09/24 0:32 | Alright. Let's go back to the beginning. Look at what you've boasted about: >>> 1. Googlebot requests my web page. >>> 2. The web page is served without any affiliate links or content. >>> 3. My external .js file is blocked by robots.txt. >>> 4. Goo |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | luzie | 10/09/24 0:39 | You really should be given the bandwith-saviour-Nobel-prize ... :D -luzie- *shaking head* |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | GuardianGI | 10/09/24 7:37 | why can't you load that content asyncronously without hiding where it is coming from? for instance i always use this on my links when i use AJAX <a href="http://www.google.com" onclick="AJAX(this.href, targetDiv);return false;">klick!</a> why cant u do that |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | miyagi-san | 10/09/28 18:29 | Geez, after reading all that there still isn't closure. I'm like totally new to this whole PageRank thing, but this thread really injected a load of information into my brain. Now it's time to see how much I understand. Say now I have a blog with l |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | GuardianGI | 10/10/01 4:57 | @miyagi-san well the gist of it is ,whether u can or cannot do this is cloudy/gray territory (lets just say its not exactly white hat..) and whether or not you should do it is basically (imo. and i think most people share that opinion) a No because t |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | Autocrat | 10/10/01 6:26 | Not wrong at all. At the end of the day ... attempting to manipulate Google is what SEO is about. But the more you do, the more blatant it is, the bigger the difference between GoogleBot and User views, the greater the risk. you "can" breach the gu |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | kidcobra | 10/10/01 7:53 | I know this is all advanced SEO :), but back to basics is the newly updated Google SEO starter guide, which is more my speed anyway. Here is a quote straight out of the guide: "To remain within our guidelines, you should serve the same content to Go |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | SEOmofo | 10/10/03 10:51 | @kidcobra, RE: I didn't see the part where all webmaster guidelines go out the window, and that it's OK to show Google one thing and users another. This is where I think we need some clarification from Google. In your opinion, I'm showing Google so |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | kidcobra | 10/10/03 11:36 | To paraphrase: For true believers, no evidence is needed. For skeptics, no evidence is enough. Time will tell. Greg |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | luzie | 10/10/03 15:05 | Yeah! Thats's exactly what you're boasting about :-) |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | GuardianGI | 10/10/05 8:02 | i wasn't talking about the way you loaded your adds, thats a fine idea i was talking about you replacing your a tags by span tags and then replacing them by a tags client side using JS THAT seems like a ridiculous idea and in some cases highly annoyi |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | GuardianGI | 10/10/07 6:33 | http://www.seomofo.com/ethics/using-javascript-to-hide-links.html great story :P and i have a nice analogy for you all. compare websites with formula one cars, if i where to read in the newspaper about a race or a specific car would i be interested |
| Re: Can I use JavaScript to hide affiliate links from Google? | BIGELLOW | 11/01/14 7:01 | This has probably been said before, but it's worth summarizing. The argument that it is "better for the index" is invalid because it's not our job to improve Google's index, it's Google's job. It's our job to show Google's crawler the same content a |