|Cannot find Plugins folder||PurpleMonkey||1/15/11 5:55 PM|
Explain your issue in full detail here: I am trying to install the Involute gear plugin. It said that I needed to put in the plugins folder. I have looked everywhere. No plugins folder. I activated all the extensions in the preferences section, and found a new Plugins menu. However, I still cannot find the Plugins folder. I queried the location of the folder in the Ruby Console. It said it was where everyone else says it is: /Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/Plugins I look there and it is not there. I can get as far as the next to last folder, but there is no Plugins folder inside of SketchUp.
|Re: Cannot find Plugins folder||Dagobertman||1/16/11 5:55 PM|
I couldn't find it either... looked everywhere... Saw the same info you did... and then I thought... Why not add one... which I did : Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/Plugins
And I grabbed a few .rb(s) which were lying about and dragged them in the new Plugins in the Library... and bingo...
When I open Sketchup, there's a Plugin menu up there...Some of these .rb(s) are in there... and some or them are now in Draw as advertised in Ruby Console...
Hope this is the answer... but read elsewhere, one shouldn't do this... AFTER I had done it... Some suggest to reinstall... which I didn't try...
I'm NEW at this... so I'm anxious to hear if this was the thing to do or not !!! :-)
|Re: Cannot find Plugins folder||PurpleMonkey||1/18/11 12:30 PM|
I will give it a go. Thanks! I am totally new to this too and really have no experience/comfort level with programming types of things.
|Re: Cannot find Plugins folder||Jeff_Hammond||1/18/11 9:53 PM|
you're in the user~/ library/ app support etc..
Macintosh HD/ Library/ Application Support/ Google SketchUp 8/ SketchUp/ plugins
@dagobertman.. suMac can infact run plugins from two different folders (the one at the path listed above which is installed with sketchup -or- the one you created in the user library)
most plugins will run just fine but there are a few cases where this will lead to problems.. the problems are caused by the way some coders write their scripts but they have been made aware of the issue and have since updated or will soon be updating their plugins accordingly.. that said, if you ever come across a plugin that has a toolbar but no icons will show up then the two folders are more likely than not the problem..
|Re: Cannot find Plugins folder||Tony Jackson||1/21/11 4:23 PM|
I just downloaded projection_extension.rb from http://rhin.crai.archi.fr/rld/plugin_details.php?id=671
Their Read-me specifically advises against using the
folder, but insisting that one use the ...user~/Library/Application Support.../plugins folder.
They seem to have the trouble you describe with icons and toolbars...
|Re: Cannot find Plugins folder||Jeff_Hammond||1/21/11 5:01 PM|
well, i think they got it backwards..
all of google's own plugins that come with sketchup are at the / location..
creating a new folder at the user location, moving google's plugins into there, then deleting the plugin folder at the root level is a bit convoluted suggestion if you ask me.. and it's totally unnecessary..
to use projections, just put them in the root location and don't create a plugin folder at the user level (and if you have created a plugin folder at the user directory then delete it.. even if it's an empty folder, it will still cause problems)
|Re: Cannot find Plugins folder||Jeff_Hammond||1/21/11 5:09 PM|
oh wait, i forgot..
actually, it will work out ok like that
if you have both folders, the problem rubies must go in the user location..
if you only have the one original Su plugin folder (at the macintosh HD location) then the problem rubies will run fine from there as well..
|Re: Cannot find Plugins folder||Tony Jackson||1/21/11 8:35 PM|
Thanks for your help!
I don't have a User plugins folder. As it is, with the plugins in the root folder I cannot call them. I've checked 'Utilities' in the prefs, but no sign.
Or is it better to put them in a User plugins folder (as the developer suggests - though he doesn't say I have to make the folder myself)?
I still have a Google SketchUp7 folder in the Application Support. It also doesn't have a plugins folder. Should I delete it?
Both have empty Autosave folders, though in SU8 Autosave sadly doesn't work.
Best regards, T.
|Re: Cannot find Plugins folder||Jeff_Hammond||1/21/11 9:54 PM|
iirc, the projections toolbar doesn't auto-activate itself upon installing.. you have to turn it on via:
View -> Tool Palettes -> Projections
if projections isn't showing up as an option under tool palettes then something is wrong with the installation.. let me know if it's available there and if not, i'll help you sort out the proper install.
|Re: Cannot find Plugins folder||catamountain||1/21/11 11:02 PM|
How is it that autosave doesn't work?
|Re: Cannot find Plugins folder||Tony Jackson||1/22/11 2:04 AM|
Thanks for your help.
No, no sign of Projections in Tool Palettes; three groups - Large Tool Set and Solid Tools, Google (doesn't seem to do anything), and Dynamic Components, Shadow Strings Fix, Solar North.
Catamountain, I wish I knew - it took me over four hours to repair the consequences of failing to save last night. Could it be a problem with SU8?
|Re: Cannot find Plugins folder||Jeff_Hammond||1/22/11 10:00 PM|
hey tony.. here are the steps to install projections on mac.
-- download the file from the link you posted above
-- unzip the download (unless your browser is set to do it automatically)
-- open the resulting folder titled "projection_v2"
-- the two necessary files for the plugin are: a folder named Projection and projection_extension.rb
-- place those two files inside the su plugin folder:
restart sketchup and turn the toolbar on via View->Tool Palettes->Projections
|Re: Cannot find Plugins folder||Tony Jackson||1/23/11 7:10 AM|
You describe exactly what I did...
But I thought I'd check before replying. I had in fact put them in the adjacent 'Resources' folder!
After a fresh restart I now have Projections, icons and all, available. Now just need to learn how to use it!
Very much thanks!
Best regards, T.
|Re: Cannot find Plugins folder||Dan Rathbun||1/28/11 2:51 AM|
Jeff Hammond wrote:And that's where they should stay, so they can be updated by the Installer when Google releases a Maintenance Release.
If you don't like them (or use them,) you can turn them off through the Preferences dilaog > Extensions panel.
Yes.. and As I said.. it should not be done.
The root level "plugins" directory (or program path "Plugins" folder, if on Windows,) should be treated as the common library for all users on a computer.
Even if you are the only "person" that will be logging on as a user on a particular computer, you should still put your CUSTOM plugins in the user path "plugins" folder. (This also allows you to create more than one user account for yourself, so you can run Sketchup in different "modes", with a different set of plugins loaded.)
This ESPECIALLY holds true for Google plugins and examples that you may have 'tweaked' or modified for your own use. If you leave them in the "root" plugins folder (with the same original filenames,) the Installer will stupidly overwrite your "tweaked" rubies, when you need to reinstall, or install a mainenance release. (In fact the installer may even remove these files without checking if they have been modified, during the process of a reinstall.)
I myself HAD been keeping all my custom plugins and "tweaked" Google Tools, Utilities and Plugins under the OEM program path folders (on Windows.)
Not any more! I got burned by the 8.0M1 Installer overwriting my "tweaked" rubies. (But had copies under SU7 folders.)
I'm in the process of moving everything (except those files laid down by Google,) on SU7.x and 8.x into my USER path, where the Installer won't touch them.
Then the program path folders will be "out-of-the-box" except for one wee lil' script that pushes my user plugins path into the $LOAD_PATH array and calls require_all() for that folder.
In addition to keeping the Sketchup install folders "cleaner" and easier to maintain, I can have a common User plugin folder for multiple Sketchup versions, making my custom plugin library SO MUCH easier to maintain.
I so wish I had done it this way from day one ...
|Re: Cannot find Plugins folder||SUGOD||2/6/11 9:00 AM|
Yes i'll agree this a great idea and one that i have been employing for quite some time. All my scripts live safty away from the SkechUp plugins folder and i only throw one loader script into the plugins folder. Another great aspect is that you can throw up a nice exception message showing which exact script failed and why. However like many things in the SketchUp scripting world everyone else must realize this fact on their own over and over again. Same with Ruby module scoping. Since these folks learn from the bundled scripts that DO NOT use modules they *think* they are learning from the best examples... Ha! Actually it's no laughing matter :-'(
Anyway, welcome to the SketchUp group Dan! Maybe you and i can help to head off some of these initial bad habits due to poor examples, missing advice, and Ruby's excessive multiplicity!
|Re: Cannot find Plugins folder||mpinner||11/19/11 6:20 PM|
i found the issue. i was having the same problem and seeing a lot of folks using plugins and others using Plugins. I problem is I have a mac filesystem that is case sensitive. i quite like it that way.
good news! there is a work around:
|Re: Cannot find Plugins folder||Baia||3/21/12 2:54 AM|
i have a mac too and had the same problem.
The solution was just changing the sketchup number version on the location.delete 7 and write 8!