| A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Oliver Dixon | 11/29/12 12:02 PM | Hello all. So far, I've had very little joy with AdSense and even less so with this group so forgive me if my attitude seems a little direct, but I am rather worried. My experience has been a 12-day disaster! Frankly I'm appalled. But that's not the |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | luzie | 11/29/12 12:22 PM | Yes it could. (Mind that this is not a "suspension", it's a closure and Adsense sadly is over for you for good) -luzie- |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Gracey | 11/29/12 12:41 PM | Yes, it could happen, and there are such things known as "click-bots" but these types of incidents seldom occur at random. Very often it's done by someone who knows the publisher/had a spat with the publisher or is otherwise upset with them/is a comp |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Oliver Dixon | 11/29/12 2:14 PM | Thank you for your swift and accurate reply. |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Oliver Dixon | 11/29/12 2:41 PM | Thank you for your ... reply? Google have supplied me with a link to their form to appeal in their e-mail and I am awaiting their response currently. I am more than willing to help Google in resolving this matter, to learn from any mistakes I may hav |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Gracey | 11/29/12 2:43 PM | You didn't mention it was a YouTube account (or I missed it in the initial post), but in Adsense you wouldn't get that much information. You'd need to check for that sort of information in your YouTube Analytics and I don't know how detailed YouTube |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Oliver Dixon | 11/29/12 3:00 PM | Thank you for your reply. I will read up on the link you sent in your post. Vis-a-vis YouTube's analytics and just for the record (no need to answer this here. If it doesn't resolve itself, I'll look for or ask it on the above board), I've had no dat |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Brains1964 | 11/29/12 3:52 PM | Best of luck with the appeal Oliver but I fear that like many of us here you will find that Google Adsense are not in the reasoning business and don't want that sort of relationship with Publishers, the appeal is most likely not to succeed because it |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | TheCapedCrusader | 11/29/12 4:05 PM | At the end of the day, we are all Google's customer when talking about AdSense. It is right for Google to decide on whether or not to do business with us. If you or I walk into a store and push over a display and the store manager bans us, is he/she |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | splatcat | 11/29/12 4:26 PM | I think people get confused when they start talking about guilty or not guilty. Invalid Activity is a statistical fact that AdSense have identified on the account. Whilst I may agree that the way the subsequently deal with it and more importantly, th |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | luzie | 11/29/12 4:33 PM | No, it's a computerized system that doesn't conclude the worst, it compares bits with bytes and decides based upon numbers. You gotta take it, there's almost none of your imaginary "friendly people" involved, and they'll never be. This system needs t |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Publisher1 | 11/29/12 5:34 PM | I believe Google's engineers are aware of the sorts of problems that scare publishers like me about YouTube and are taking some measures to build better controls and methods of managing the distinction between pure statistical anomolies and abusive t |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Oliver Dixon | 11/30/12 1:47 AM | It's not unfair, it's a farce! |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | seo101 | 11/30/12 11:45 AM | You totally missing the point!!!! Its no longer worth it for advertisers to pay for the useless traffic that that the were getting from your site! Its that simple. Would you pay for traffic from a site that provided poor quality non-converting traffi |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Publisher1 | 11/30/12 11:49 AM | SEO, this is too blunt an assertion. YouTube operates in a kind of closed loop. While there are some amounts of data and reporting, the level of control videographers have is not nearly as good as it is if you have a site hosted on your own server. |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | seo101 | 11/30/12 12:04 PM | It might be blunt, but its business. If a site or YT channel provide a poor return on investment to those of us they pay good money, then why bother to continuing buying advertising space off them? Adsense is a business, not a social welfare agency o |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | AliBhai1 | 11/30/12 12:33 PM | Well if you really want to do it, then you can help Google without a Adsense. Or In fact you can help other publishers as well in saving there accounts , I don't want to give but I am an example I know, I haven't saved many accounts but probably on |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Brains1964 | 11/30/12 1:33 PM | Yes, agreed, this is why I think giving participants the title "Publisher" is a very bad idea, it's far too strong a title to give to someone who is simply agreeing to have ad space on their website or youtube video, I might run my own small show lik |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | TheCapedCrusader | 11/30/12 3:05 PM | Hmm, yes I thought that also at first, many years ago, but then I realised that Advertiser and Publisher are the terms used in the advertising industry. Advertisers pay for the ads which are "published" by the Publishers. It's really quite simple whe |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | splatcat | 11/30/12 4:34 PM | I'm afraid they do. I try advertising on sites all the time, including "large" ones. If it doesn't work then I don't spend any more money with them. I don't send them an email telling them this, I don't give them a chance to appeal, I don't tell them |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Publisher1 | 11/30/12 9:38 PM | Interesting, the discussions and definitions of "publisher" My nick reflects my real business -- I publish periodicals, and at present most of my company's revenue comes from print media (though obviously online is increasingly important.) The job |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Brains1964 | 12/1/12 3:16 AM | Yes but that's exactly my point, in that position you're in the driving seat, you're not getting walked over, as you say you can take your money elsewhere without having to explain, you've got a lot of power there, in a real business partnership of c |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | AliBhai1 | 12/1/12 6:37 AM | I think you are not getting the idea, Thing is Google doesn't need heaps of Adspace in Adsense . It has thousand infact millions of sites in there, All it needs more and more advertisers to have higher competition and CPC of that adspace and that Hi |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Publisher1 | 12/1/12 8:18 AM | Brains, your answer is incorrect in so far as the relationship between AdSense and publishers is more in the "mind" of the publisher than anything else. The system attracts possibly millions of people with not a tiny bit of business experience and s |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Brains1964 | 12/1/12 11:15 AM | Oh aye, it's in the mind of the publisher alright, you got that spot on because it sure ain't in reality as we all find out but you see, most people won't have any reason to think about where they stand with Google Adsense, good or bad as a "Publishe |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | AliBhai1 | 12/1/12 12:18 PM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Publisher1 | 12/1/12 12:21 PM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | AliBhai1 | 12/1/12 12:33 PM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Brains1964 | 12/2/12 4:09 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Brains1964 | 12/2/12 4:19 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Dan B. | 12/2/12 4:39 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | AliBhai1 | 12/2/12 4:41 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Cade | 12/2/12 5:48 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Dan B. | 12/2/12 6:26 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | AliBhai1 | 12/2/12 6:28 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | i4c | 12/2/12 6:34 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Cade | 12/2/12 6:41 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | i4c | 12/2/12 6:42 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Dan B. | 12/2/12 7:48 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | AliBhai1 | 12/2/12 10:44 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | i4c | 12/2/12 11:12 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Brains1964 | 12/2/12 11:56 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Dan B. | 12/2/12 12:15 PM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | AliBhai1 | 12/2/12 1:43 PM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Brains1964 | 12/2/12 2:47 PM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | luzie | 12/2/12 3:02 PM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Publisher1 | 12/2/12 4:28 PM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Dan B. | 12/2/12 5:06 PM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Brains1964 | 12/3/12 1:55 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Dan B. | 12/3/12 3:36 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | splatcat | 12/3/12 4:23 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | stooony1380 | 12/3/12 6:35 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | splatcat | 12/3/12 6:48 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | stooony1380 | 12/3/12 7:03 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Dan B. | 12/3/12 7:07 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | splatcat | 12/3/12 7:23 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Dan B. | 12/3/12 7:25 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | i4c | 12/3/12 7:30 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | splatcat | 12/3/12 8:06 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Brains1964 | 12/3/12 11:57 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Dan B. | 12/3/12 12:37 PM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Brains1964 | 12/3/12 1:04 PM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Cade | 12/3/12 5:26 PM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | AliBhai1 | 12/4/12 3:22 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Michael Broadway | 12/4/12 9:51 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Brains1964 | 12/4/12 11:42 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Cade | 12/4/12 1:34 PM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Brains1964 | 12/4/12 3:46 PM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Dan B. | 12/4/12 3:57 PM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Oliver Dixon | 12/7/12 10:58 AM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | Publisher1 | 12/7/12 12:01 PM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | wth???? | 12/8/12 2:24 PM | |
| Re: A horrifyingly worrying concern with AdSense. | AliBhai1 | 12/9/12 3:53 AM |